DON’T Use a HELOC to Buy Investment Property Unless…

Episode #834
About to take out a HELOC to buy an investment property? This could be a move you regret for years, ESPECIALLY if you’re doing this in 2023. As home prices have risen and real estate investors search for more money to invest, the HELOC (home equity line of credit) has become an obvious choice for many. But drawing from these lines of credit could come with a lot more risk than you might think and may tank your cash flow.
David Greene is back on another Seeing Greene, live from Florida! But that’s not all; Rob (Robuilt) Abasolo is coming on to tag-team your real estate investing questions. They'll first talk to Tim, who wants to invest in real estate in high-priced Southern California. He has a townhome with some sizable equity but doesn’t know how to fund his first investment or make the most cash flow. David and Rob also hit on what to do with inherited or paid-off properties and how to scale when you lack the capital. Plus, we read a two-star review and combat it with a KZread comment compliment from David’s secret admirer.
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00:00 Intro
01:16 Quick Tip
02:52 How to Invest in Expensive Areas
11:12 HELOC for Down Payment?
14:01 Connect with Tim!
14:31 Our 2-Star Review
16:15 Questions from The Comment Section
22:14 Where to Find Money to Invest More
28:45 I Inherited a Property!
33:10 How to Fund Home Repairs
36:33 You're Seeing Greene!

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    8 ай бұрын

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    @Alexedmartin.

    8 ай бұрын

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    @stephaniefythm

    8 ай бұрын

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  • @skoopqueen

    @skoopqueen

    7 ай бұрын

    Will def check her out thnks

  • @peaslead
    @peaslead8 ай бұрын

    Bought a property with my heloc in February. Aggressively paying that off and hoping to do it again soon.

  • @lancealderman2755

    @lancealderman2755

    8 ай бұрын

    Would you mind telling me what interest rate you're paying and if it's variable? Mine started at 3.99% in 2020 when I opened it and went to 9.24% currently. Glad I paid what I had on it off before the rate hikes. I'm also curious to see if the rate will go down if and when the fed lowers rates. I know it goes up for sure. If I knew for sure it would adjust down I would be a little more comfortable getting into something with so so margins right now.

  • @peaslead

    @peaslead

    8 ай бұрын

    @@lancealderman2755At 4.6% right now. Assuming it will adjust to the 9% range after my 14 month intro rate ends. Even at 9% the tax benefits outweigh the interest costs.

  • @charlesholder4150

    @charlesholder4150

    8 ай бұрын

    It goes down as well as up.

  • @lancealderman2755

    @lancealderman2755

    8 ай бұрын

    @charlesholder4150 I hope so. I just know they have every incentive to hike them and no incentive to lower them later except maybe I'd get a loan with someone else.

  • @masoncnc
    @masoncnc8 ай бұрын

    Renting in Kali means the tenants own your property, but you keep the mortgage. I'd never rent in there

  • @garrylinton6593
    @garrylinton65938 ай бұрын

    Very informative about Heloc.

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    @nathaneulslavens41823 ай бұрын

    Great episode. Enjoy watching you two.

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    Another great video!

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    @RafetMert-qs3kw7 ай бұрын

    Facing a financial crunch, especially as seniors, we're pondering the idea of cashing in on our home equity. The question is, should we invest the money, rent, or relocate?

  • @cvxcfv

    @cvxcfv

    3 ай бұрын

    Depends on your situation as everyone's is different. Seek a seasoned pro for this advice, not KZread comments because no one knows your particular situation except you.

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    @smilexa7 ай бұрын

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    @cavy958 ай бұрын

    Add blue or red locktite to that furniture.

  • @LaughOutLouie88
    @LaughOutLouie888 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this, was wondering how the HELOC approach would work at this moment in time. Really appreciate this conversation.

  • @johnnyb33good21

    @johnnyb33good21

    8 ай бұрын

    Same. I have almost $3 million in equity for my apartment buildings in the PHX, Metro of Arizona. I Don't want to cash-out refinance my low 2%, 4% and 5% interest rates. I'm looking at finding a lender that will do a HELOC on an investment rental property. Does anyone know of a lender who will do a HELOC on investment property? Thxs for the help!

  • @PrathimaN74

    @PrathimaN74

    8 ай бұрын

    Following

  • @rodramos642
    @rodramos6428 ай бұрын

    Great info

  • @ElectroWits
    @ElectroWits8 ай бұрын

    that is cool, I used to rent walking distance from that Boston house

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    @victorlozano67158 ай бұрын

    Is their an episode on went to use a dual agent? The do and donts

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    @skysthelimit.podcast7 ай бұрын

    Interesting content!

  • @DrWenChannel
    @DrWenChannel8 ай бұрын

    So the short answer of "Unless..." is?? Just curious

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    @EssenceOfSpiritVlogs8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the great advice!

  • @darrellhardy5047
    @darrellhardy50478 ай бұрын

    To JR Mathews the Boston investor. I would recommend speaking a private money investor to go in second position on some of your portfolio. It maybe a good way to get great working capital. Example 200k @12% 10 year amortization with a 5year balloon is like 3k a month. At the balloon point you’ll owe back about 115k.

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    @jonathangamble8 ай бұрын

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  • @philipadcock3508
    @philipadcock35086 ай бұрын

    I’ve been watching for a while and the more I watch the more I feel confused on how to move forward in this journey to start investing in real estate.

  • @doubleAIII
    @doubleAIII3 ай бұрын

    Gary said he inherited a senior condo... you can't Airbnb those

  • @cabinkingglampking
    @cabinkingglampking8 ай бұрын

    Beard is looking 🔥 heloc has helped me to double portfolio in last 5 years

  • @stefanimokris9399
    @stefanimokris93998 ай бұрын

    Thank you for another episode!

  • @tiffanybobash9541
    @tiffanybobash95416 ай бұрын

    What if I did a HELOC and did a cash out refi in like a year? I'm on the title but not the mortgage which has a low interest rate of 5%

  • @alicechodkowski4066
    @alicechodkowski40668 ай бұрын

    I would recommend JR go for a DSCR loan and also try a short-term and mid-term rental for more income to save for your next acquisition.

  • @franklincarreno8668
    @franklincarreno866812 күн бұрын

    U.S Bank is providing Fixed rate HELOC option. Anyone know about such? I am investigating. Note: I am not talking about home equity loan. I am talking about the line of credit HELOC and fixed rate

  • @danielramos6006
    @danielramos60062 ай бұрын

    4yrs 300k equity..heard he still has pmi, request to get it removed put some more money in your pocket

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    @tammyrussell-rice55088 ай бұрын

    Tim is about to become a father for the first time. Going forward, he really doesn't have the time he thinks to operate a STR or take on a fixer. He should seek a bigger primary home for his growing family and rent out his current home as a long-term rental. I'm assuming his HOA will not allow it to be anything but a long-term rental. To do anything more at this time, his wife may divorce him. 😂

  • @johnnyb33good21
    @johnnyb33good218 ай бұрын

    I have almost $3 million in equity for my apartment buildings in the PHX, Metro of Arizona. And I do a 4-Plex that is my primary residence right now I Don't want to cash-out refinance my low 2%, 4% and 5% interest rates. I'm looking at finding a lender that will do a HELOC on an investment rental property. Does anyone know of a lender who will do a HELOC on investment property? Thxs for the help!

  • @DanKohan
    @DanKohan8 ай бұрын

    Your open-minded approach and your knack for analyzing things will be valuable in your real estate journey. Remember, there isn't a one-size-fits-all answer in real estate, and it involves some hands-on work. But whether you go for long-term or short-term rentals, taking that first step into real estate is a smart move for your family's financial future.

  • @PlatypusVomit
    @PlatypusVomit8 ай бұрын

    I haven't watched yet, but the timing is lol. I had a deal come across my plate on Friday that I would've loved to have taken advantage of, but I'm broke and had been considering a heloc or even a second mortgage on my personal residence to make it happen. Ultimately I decided against it, but it'll be interesting to see your take on the idea.

  • @PlatypusVomit

    @PlatypusVomit

    8 ай бұрын

    Watched the intro, and yeah that's basically why I decided against it. I didn't want to be over leveraged on my personal residence.

  • @shondar.1086

    @shondar.1086

    8 ай бұрын

    Great convo🎉

  • @cliff7634
    @cliff76348 ай бұрын

    You are talking about a regular HELOC where this can be given from almost all banks and credit unions. But what about a First Lein HELOC which is not like the HELOC you guys was talking about? There are very few Banks that do a First Lein HELOC.

  • @betterhomesnc2437

    @betterhomesnc2437

    8 ай бұрын

    Just gotta ask around, I know a guy that uses them. Not sure who he uses though.

  • @FlyingSagittarius

    @FlyingSagittarius

    8 ай бұрын

    CMG Financial does First-Lien HELOC's. They call it an All in One loan.

  • @cliff7634

    @cliff7634

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​@@FlyingSagittariusI will check but all in one loans are not first lien HELOC's.

  • @BollywoodHitsHub
    @BollywoodHitsHub8 ай бұрын

    I have a fix pnc heloc !! That i could lock lower rates for 200.00 bucks unlimited time. My question is should i use the Heloc to put the down payment or use te while heloc to pay cash and negotiate the bottom line price ? Thanks guys

  • @johnnyb33good21

    @johnnyb33good21

    8 ай бұрын

    How long ago did you get your HELOC with PNC Bank? Is it on your primary residence or an investment?

  • @bestreviewer2038
    @bestreviewer20388 ай бұрын

    Find a private lender that does interest only payments

  • @matthewbowers6178
    @matthewbowers61785 ай бұрын

    Lose the low rate, take the cash to make more cash

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    @BrianSchoedel8 ай бұрын

    Loctite + screwdriver = stable furniture 🪑

  • @erikcardero4789
    @erikcardero47898 ай бұрын

    I have a heloc at 8.9% to use as a down payment for my Airbnb. The Airbnb is working great but I’m trying to refinance my heloc and get a lower interest. Is there anything out there lower than 8.9%?

  • @FlyingSagittarius

    @FlyingSagittarius

    8 ай бұрын

    A home equity loan might be worthwhile. Same thing as a HELOC, but with a fixed rate and term instead of revolving credit. Home equity loans typically have lower interest rates than HELOC'S, but the major benefit is that it doesn't have an adjustable interest rate.

  • @FreddyFermin

    @FreddyFermin

    7 ай бұрын

    8.9 is a blessing right now

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    @lawful56948 ай бұрын

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  • @victoriaenwemadu7099
    @victoriaenwemadu70998 ай бұрын

    Does anyone know of a HELOC company that goes up to $2M borrowing limit?

  • @ZedGirl

    @ZedGirl

    8 ай бұрын

    Bank of America

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    @nicknockjoke3 ай бұрын

    I knew a guy from LA named Justin Case. Did the the Justin Case you know serve time in prison?

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    @DonteeWeaver8 ай бұрын

    👀

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    8 ай бұрын

    Be nice or go away!

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    8 ай бұрын

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    8 ай бұрын

    If you have grievances air it out the right way.

  • @keithhowes5692
    @keithhowes56928 ай бұрын

    Not bad advice, I just really dislike all these super risk averse strategies. Take a calculated risk you’re willing to live with and reap the rewards, even if that is a lesson in what not to do.

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    @mke414sloan26 ай бұрын

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