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Don't try to hit "In Front"!

Don't try to hit "In Front"!

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  • @IanWestermann
    @IanWestermannАй бұрын

    Here's the step by step drills I was talking about: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mamVy7CrpLqam7g.html

  • @tennisCharlzz

    @tennisCharlzz

    9 күн бұрын

    Admittedly, when you point our her shoulder, unless the video is mirrored, it's her right shoulder that's further back, not her left. It's only the left from where it is in the picture. Just a minor nit! You can tell because she's right handed, so that's her right shoulder.

  • @petertrahan9785
    @petertrahan9785Ай бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. The majority of the tennis teaching I have experienced (not all) is just bad at best, and way too often it hinders rather than helps a player's development.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    Keep up the great work, Peter

  • @John--nj4lp
    @John--nj4lp23 күн бұрын

    I love the way the videos show so clearly where the power comes from , I’ll be checking out your videos more !

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    So glad this was helpful!

  • @-Munditimum-
    @-Munditimum-Ай бұрын

    You just described a major falley of the human kind. At most times we focus on the effect, rather than the cause, which I guess can go on forever depending on how far "up" you want to go. In another way of looking at it; It's good to go beneath the surface to see what it is in the soil that causes the strange growth on the branches of the tree. Cheers, M ps, How remarkable her progress is after fixing the cause...and so many symptoms have been fixed through nature. Awesome.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    💯

  • @ninidelatour
    @ninidelatour19 күн бұрын

    Thanks a lot, Ian. This makes it suddenly easy to understand and to visualise. I'll try the drills right away in my next training 🙂

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    So happy to hear that!

  • @Errk2G
    @Errk2G29 күн бұрын

    Dam you are an awesome teacher Ian. One of the very best.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    29 күн бұрын

    Appreciate the kind words, thank you

  • @jmberille1
    @jmberille125 күн бұрын

    Here is the thing : day after watching this video I did explain to my 10 years old boy your concept... Result became automatically effective and I m so grateful to you Sir ❤❤❤😊

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    Awesome, so happy to hear that!

  • @user-js5ly2wx4l
    @user-js5ly2wx4lАй бұрын

    She was hitting the ball with her elbow jammed inside right against her body which was causing the issues including late contact. Just by instructing her to have the elbow away from the body at preparation would have also made a difference...

  • @viniciuspignataro4630
    @viniciuspignataro4630Ай бұрын

    What a wonderful job. In such a short time, a huge difference. I'm really interested in those drills.👏👏👏

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry, here's the drills: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mamVy7CrpLqam7g.html

  • @adamw8142
    @adamw8142Ай бұрын

    I dream of having a coach like you. I just ordered your book and I hope it will be as good as your videos. Greetings from Poland, keep going!

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    That's very kind of you, Adam, thank you. If you enjoy the videos I guarantee you'll love the book!

  • @DolphinWithIgloo-fg3ow
    @DolphinWithIgloo-fg3owАй бұрын

    IMPORTANT! The shoulder turn and the arm moves as one. The arm doesn’t lag. The only thing that lags is the racquet head. You’ll thank me later.

  • @circuitdesign

    @circuitdesign

    Ай бұрын

    You are totally correct. Sometimes this idea of relaxing the arm so much that it gets floppy causes bad results because the student is late with the arm even though the body is turning properly. I experienced this issue myself until I finally realized that the shoulder turn and the arm move as one. Even though relaxation is very important, I found that there has to be a small amount of tension in the arm to keep the upper body and the arm in sync and moving as one. But I keep the wrist very relaxed to achieve the racquet head lag.

  • @user-zi7fl8kz6y
    @user-zi7fl8kz6yАй бұрын

    You are genius! Appreciate your lessons and already working on my unwinding) thank you❤

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for your support 🙏

  • @americantruth9001
    @americantruth900118 күн бұрын

    Great video analysis for a coach that doesn't demo himself or his skills and abilities.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    I've demo'd my own skills and abilities more publicly than 99.9% of tennis coaches world wide. That's literally the dumbest thing to criticize me about 😆.

  • @americantruth9001

    @americantruth9001

    18 күн бұрын

    @@IanWestermann - You are right. After searching for a few minutes I found a game you played and didn't realize that you were barely a 4.5 player soft hitting lefty. My mistake. I wouldn't demo either if I were you. I still think you have one of the best side coach analysis video channels on the net. Keep up the good work.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    Why in the world would I use myself as an example, regardless of my level, when highly detailed examples of the best players who ever lived are easily available? If I was ranked 100 ATP I'd still be using Novak, Serena and Roger to teach....duh. You think you're insulting me but you're not, sorry bro.

  • @justinr5902
    @justinr5902Ай бұрын

    Fantastic information; many thanks!!

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    29 күн бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @wallaceyallup4026
    @wallaceyallup402623 күн бұрын

    the real student's arm is 90-degrees and body is facing perpendicular. totally different; glad you pointed it out.

  • @AFenderson
    @AFendersonАй бұрын

    Good stuff, but if you work on catching it in front you have to start your swing a tiny bit earlier and to accomplish it you also want to post your hips and shoulder so you square up.. on the other hand if you're not trying to catch it in front while unloading and rotating you'll be arming the ball despite good body rotation, posting, etc. I definitely get what you're saying but it's a two way situation. :)

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    If saying "hit out in front" caused players to turn their body at the right time then 95% of club players wouldn't have this problem......because they've been told that thousands of times. Turning the body at the time time leads to "out in front" contact. Unfortunately it does NOT work the other way around.

  • @rogerfroud6207
    @rogerfroud6207Ай бұрын

    She's late hitting, or using the arm on some shots because of her footwork being more closed stance, ie stepping across to hit the ball. Get slightly more open stance and the body should naturally rotate and encourage more hip and shoulder turn. Just my thoughts 🙂

  • @tenniscoach.bruggenwerth
    @tenniscoach.bruggenwerth19 күн бұрын

    True...keep the good work🎉

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    Appreciate your support!

  • @mohdmajid1
    @mohdmajid129 күн бұрын

    This was such a great tennis video. You earned a subscriber

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    29 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ericshine1
    @ericshine1Ай бұрын

    Thank you SO much for this video!!!

  • @tehatte
    @tehatteАй бұрын

    She looked better after the change but her racket opens up a little bit at contacts and that needs to be fixed or she will sail a lot of balls unless she hits softer.

  • @user-yh4zx4ky9j

    @user-yh4zx4ky9j

    Ай бұрын

    This video or this channel is just garbage. The person don’t know tennis. Just few atp pro’s video may fool you. Pros are doing great but the comments are garbage.

  • @bonejakon
    @bonejakonАй бұрын

    Great stuff as usual.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @stefanthomassen4750
    @stefanthomassen4750Ай бұрын

    In general, there are 2 main-problems of most tennis-Players. Too late preparation of the swing and ellbow too close to the torso/body. Fix that, and playing is much more easy and successful !

  • @juliokasahara8888
    @juliokasahara8888Ай бұрын

    What software was used to compare the videos? great review thanks!

  • @Tonetone389
    @Tonetone389Ай бұрын

    Wheeei need these videos of these pros players hitting!!! The side by side is amazing!!

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    Lots of great clips on KZread!

  • @BryanTanner
    @BryanTannerАй бұрын

    Would you look at that! (I'd like a symptom vs. root video series, please Ian.)

  • @benjaminrier7641
    @benjaminrier764124 күн бұрын

    What's best position for one handed backhand?

  • @marktace1
    @marktace1Ай бұрын

    I’m guessing she was also hitting a lot of shots long after hitting the ball out front more. Grip plays a big role. Grips near continental require hitting the ball further back and swinging up the back of the ball more. Steffi Graf is a prime example.

  • @jaquevius
    @jaqueviusАй бұрын

    Great video! Kinetic chain is the key basic fundamental to every shot in tennis and is the first thing I think about when a shot goes awry in a match. Another way to think of it is weight transfer towards your target.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    Great kinetic chain can happen regardless of direction of weight transfer.

  • @awangsafrisafri476
    @awangsafrisafri476Ай бұрын

    Focus on the ball where it drop.Think fast & take action fastest so that your follow true are awesome. 🎾Make sure the the ball drop within the playing zone.Yesss

  • @sebastiandomagala9233

    @sebastiandomagala9233

    Ай бұрын

    I always recommend waiting for the ball with the arm already swung back instead of trying to make backswing and swing one motion. Too complicated.

  • @Lhssaxman

    @Lhssaxman

    28 күн бұрын

    @@sebastiandomagala9233 from my experience, this really messes up people's timing mechanism. This is okay for old school continental forehands. I think a neutral position with the racquet face to the side is fine for a modern forehand that uses a racquet drop.

  • @talc4211
    @talc4211Ай бұрын

    Hi, thanks for your great video. Can you please send a link to a drills to work with students?

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/mamVy7CrpLqam7g.html

  • @Jing0_
    @Jing0_Ай бұрын

    Great coaching Ian!

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @Contractedharry
    @ContractedharryАй бұрын

    Great point

  • @nukiolbartes6279
    @nukiolbartes6279Ай бұрын

    But then the rotation of the body is symptom of proper spacing

  • @bigneck123

    @bigneck123

    Ай бұрын

    but then spacing is symptom of proper footwork

  • @nukiolbartes6279

    @nukiolbartes6279

    Ай бұрын

    @@bigneck123 touche… but i would say footwork in combination with vision and spatial awareness

  • @watcher687
    @watcher68722 күн бұрын

    Someone else can say that this is also a symptom of something else🤔

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    They definitely could.

  • @carlosjara9136
    @carlosjara9136Ай бұрын

    So this would apply whether you use open or closed stance, right? I use closed stance. I’ll have to use this for sure!

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, the kinetic chain applies to all stances, what physical position you're able to hit will vary, however.

  • Ай бұрын

    So where are the mentioned links / drills ?!

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    The video with the drills pops up at the end. Here it is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mamVy7CrpLqam7g.html

  • @3eran7e13
    @3eran7e1314 күн бұрын

    Backhand spacing?

  • @raphaelfhb
    @raphaelfhb28 күн бұрын

    What is this app / video viewer?

  • @seanh3260
    @seanh3260Ай бұрын

    So good!

  • @LubaLuba1
    @LubaLuba121 күн бұрын

    Hey Ian, you can't keep contradicting yourself just to be different because your students and followers are going to suffer.

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    18 күн бұрын

    Ya, that sounds terrible.....so what's the contraction?

  • @LubaLuba1

    @LubaLuba1

    17 күн бұрын

    @@IanWestermann What's contradicting your title it reads "don't try to hit Infront" But hitting in front is good their shoulders automatically move by default when you hit in front.

  • @slapcitytennis9103
    @slapcitytennis9103Ай бұрын

    Hello Mr Ian what app might you be using for that vid playback?

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    OnForm

  • @anonusniogsonisrgnip
    @anonusniogsonisrgnipАй бұрын

    all the examples you showed are literally pros hitting in front

  • @SubashHansdah
    @SubashHansdahАй бұрын

    Who hits like this girl in the first place if she's a student of any academy? Seems like Patrick ways of intentionally asking wrong method first and then teaching.

  • @virtualyme7659
    @virtualyme7659Ай бұрын

    Nice job ☮️

  • @cesaredicesare
    @cesaredicesareАй бұрын

    very nice

  • @robkading5274
    @robkading5274Ай бұрын

    Surely the grip makes a difference too?

  • @IanWestermann

    @IanWestermann

    Ай бұрын

    With how the uses her body? No.

  • @foxyonthrottle690
    @foxyonthrottle690Ай бұрын

    she not taking the ball further in front she taking the ball further away from the body ( to the side ) which was the main problem,

  • @jmberille1

    @jmberille1

    26 күн бұрын

    Not really...

  • @jmberille1

    @jmberille1

    26 күн бұрын

    You didnt get it 😮

  • @foxyonthrottle690

    @foxyonthrottle690

    26 күн бұрын

    @@jmberille1 then explain what I didn’t get 🤔

  • @foxyonthrottle690

    @foxyonthrottle690

    26 күн бұрын

    @@jmberille1 look at 2.10 elbow against the body and at 7.30 elbow away from the body but the underarm still around a 45 degree and to get that you stretch your arm more. If you do that by turning or keeping the ball further away it’s the same

  • @jmberille1

    @jmberille1

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@foxyonthrottle690 I mean I think u misunderstood the point, or I m wrong... she did hit the ball in front cos she turned her hips at the correct position in a coordination with her shoulder that allowed her to get a perfect contact point with much more space from the arm to the body and extended arm

  • @K.Solowoniuk
    @K.SolowoniukАй бұрын

    Maybe it would be better to say consequence instead of symptom. Tennis instruction sure is all over the place: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKmn2cubqLXgYaQ.html

  • @user-yl5ti9sh3m
    @user-yl5ti9sh3mАй бұрын

    Yet another misleading video, it’s not just about hitting the ball in front of

  • @Charmander009
    @Charmander009Ай бұрын

    If u try to focus on hitting ball infront, u will end up hitting it too far in front and now forehand has no power . Its something u shouldn’t even be thinking about but nick from intuitive tennis wit his horrible 90s style forehand is obsessed wit it “hit wit the dominant shoulder infront”

  • @markscott6102

    @markscott6102

    Ай бұрын

    We do need to hit the ball in front with the hitting in shoulder in front of the other shoulder or at least parallel as Nik and Ian correctly say if we want to have a much better forehand. Why would the pros achieve this position if it wasn’t optimal? I can testify to this as I have gone from hitting late to hitting in front by using body rotation through Nik’s videos and it has transformed my forehand from inconsistent and unreliable to consistent and more powerful. The point of this video and Nik’s videos, which do explain in detail, is how to achieve it. If not done correctly and one is leaning too far in front, off balance, or reaching with the arm from a cramped position where the right shoulder is behind the left (for a righty), then yes you could lose power. If done correctly via good body rotation, using the kinetic chain with good spacing and timing you won’t. As for Nik’s forehand, whether you like his style or not or whether it is 90’s or not doesn’t mean it’s not a great forehand. Agassi hits with a 90’s forehand but it doesn’t mean it’s not a fantastic shot with all the essential ingredients to hit it well. Style is not the same as the fundamentals that are essential for a good shot.

  • @Monaleenian

    @Monaleenian

    Ай бұрын

    There's a sweet spot where you have the greatest control and power. Making contact with the ball too far behind that sweet spot or too far in front of it will result in reduced power and control.

  • @jimj7333

    @jimj7333

    Ай бұрын

    I like Mark’s comment. Teaching is not a black/white - right wrong thing. There are tens of thousands of teachers at all levels of quality. I have witnessed many many teachers in music. If you took a violin student to 4 master teachers, each would have a bit (some more extreme than others) of a different approach to bow hold, placement, speed, angle etc. and I’m, only mentioning a small handful of details within the hundreds of possible “corrections” they could be making. There are a good number of excellent teachers on YT with many years of experience. Just because someone teaches technique in a different way doesn’t mean he’s totally correct and the other teachers are wrong. Sometimes as a student, you just have to pick “your guy” and go with it. You can’t implement technique from 5 different coaches. That’s why people have 1 violin teacher. After x time they usually move on to others depending upon level etc. Your college violin teacher is going to have A LOT of different things to say and work on verses who you studied with before. Wa the first teacher wrong? That’s why this is not right and wrong situation, it’s a better or different way. Also, students have to have some knowledge and awareness. There’s absolutely no doubt there are master teachers and novice teachers. In the world I was talking about, there were specific teachers regularly produced the finest students who won the major competitions and went on to great scholarships at the finest schools and ended up in the best symphonies. That wasn’t an accident.

  • @nathanmiller6051
    @nathanmiller6051Ай бұрын

    🎾👨‍🏫👏

  • @masha1980
    @masha1980Ай бұрын

    I saw a video of this guy hitting and I can’t believe he coaches. A 3.5 at most.

  • @circuitdesign

    @circuitdesign

    Ай бұрын

    Doesn't matter if he does not have a high NTRP level. What matters most for a coach is good observational skills, good communication skills and high tennis IQ. My proof is to look at Nick Bollettieri. He was a 4.0 at best but he coached many #1 and top 10 players.

  • @masha1980

    @masha1980

    26 күн бұрын

    @@circuitdesign Those who can’t do, teach.