Excellent coach there. No ego and not interested in domination, only teaching. Stay with him.

Elite fighters can be brainless dicks when practicing with casual level martial artists. This man has shown respect and restraint. A true warrior.

@mauricematla8379

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Such one would not call elite.

@vittocrazi

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@@mauricematla8379 olympians are elite...

@mauricematla8379

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@@vittocrazi Not if they are asshole's.

@kubikiribasara3499

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Well said.

@randygreen81

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@@vittocrazi i think he meant that brainless dicks are rarely elite fighters. real skilled people dont need to show off or something and have control and can aply the right amount of force etc. I know that from other sports.

You have a good training partner there. Some competitive judo guys are scary cause they can really hurt you.

@Random541

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Yeah an Olympic judoka visited my gym (he's friends with the owner) and he didn't hesitate to hip throw and just toss us around 😂

@jeremymeyer5552

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He's backing up the whole match to avoid getting thrown. Even if he gets thrown gently it will hurt.

@K9Y750

Жыл бұрын

Hey just a question, would judo work with no gi?

@Random541

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@@K9Y750 ofc you just gotta adjust some things with some throws My favorite gi and no gi foot sweep is the sasae tsurikomi ashi

@jeremymeyer5552

Жыл бұрын

@@K9Y750 Sambo uses Judo and wrestling and most fighters go straight into MMA.

I think the purple belt was mostly appropriate with how he was training here though. A massive issue I’ve come across as a Judo person is that BJJ folks will just stiffen up and white knuckle every time an attack comes. This typically means the Judoka has to up the intensity to get the throw and the fall hurts much more on top of that because the BJJ person is being so rigid. In an ideal world, all grapplers would learn how to properly fall. But a decent substitute is just to be more relaxed like these guys are here. I know Judo has this reputation as being devastating in BJJ, but it’s like 95% the bad standup habits in BJJ tbh. I’ve been taking these falls for 20+ years now without any real lasting injuries. It mostly boils down to learning to fall, relaxing, and not resisting when you’re definitely already way out of balance. I feel as if that last one is where the majority of injuries happen because it typically determines if the fall is going to be awkward or not. Tl:Dr video is a good example of how Judo training can be (and honesty usually is), it’s often BJJ practitioners being defensive in inefficient, unsafe ways that causes injury

I trained with Olympic level judoka for a year in my mid to late teens and what isn’t apparent in this video is the unbelievable physical strength those guys have, (complimenting amazing technique, speed, agility and fitness). This guy was being highly respectful. I’d won a number of regional titles at the time, training regularly and competitively with adult dan grades, so was strong for my age and of a decent standard. The Olympic athletes I trained with were levels and levels above me. One lad I had the privilege to train with, (who unbeknownst to me at the time was British champ at his weight), was younger, smaller and a weight group lighter than I, yet manhandled me like a child the first time we practiced. Very humbling and pretty awe inspiring to be honest.

@Sam-pl1xc

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What was this lads name? Guy from the uk here, on the national team for judo so I may know who you were training with 😊

@supervillan326

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@@Sam-pl1xc Ian Freeman was the young lad who schooled me. At the same club were Diane Bell & Karen Briggs, (both world champions at the time but before women’s Judo was included in the olympics). Heavyweight Olympian Elvis Gordon also trained there, (I’m really showing my age here).

@cera5900

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@@supervillan326 Sounds like an absolutely monstrous gym

@supervillan326

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@@cera5900 It was. Completely different level to anything I had experienced before and really gave me a clear idea of the level you needed to reach to compete at the top.

I was fortunate enough to train with a Olympic Judoka from Cuba. She kicked my ass over and over, but I learned a lot. Elite Judo is a different world. I think what I really appreciated in my training was how effortless it felt to be thrown. I remember working my ass off just for grip only to be thrown. Soak up all you can during these sessions, the experience is worth it's weight in gold.

@limunplaysrocketleague2591

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i guess having a olympic judoka in your club like me is really fortunate

I hope you understand that he is going 40%.

@JRF1004

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More like 10%

@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96

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2%

@dusanslepcev2665

Жыл бұрын

If he was going 100% the other guy wouldn’t be walking afterwards

@redearthpaul178

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More like 5%. He's barely trying.

@beyondhomosapien

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0.00003%

I made this mistake once, he wasn't nearly this gentle. Was on crutches for a week afterward and retired after I could walk again. Elite judo is on another level.

@theb0ganator

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My take is for beginners to learn breakfalls properly before even thinking about randori

@yojimbos1

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@@theb0ganator I was a 55 year old, out of practice 3rd degree brown belt with advanced undiagnosed arthritis in both hips and degenerated spinal discs. The guy was a 30 year old ex Romanian National Champion who'd already destroyed every BB in the dojo. After his 2nd Harai Goshi put me through the mat I decided enough was enough and attempted an entry for Uchi Mata. He countered with Utsuri Goshi. As he brought me back over his hip to finish the throw I could feel my sacrum move in a way it is not designed to do. When I was unable to get back up for a minute he asked, "You alright"? He was a very friendly guy. If nothing else it confirmed for me again that Judo has always been one of the best forms of self defense anyone can learn. Now, 12 years on with two prosthetic hips I no longer trust even the best Ukemi to protect myself. Still miss it though.

@thejapanarchocommunist

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I knew the guy I was facing could work me over as he gave a buddy of mine a concussion, so I only used attacks that I knew at worst would lead to a foot sweep or a bad (but not dangerous) position. Weirdly enough though, in Japan a lot of them are susceptible to single/double leg takedowns, probably because they aren't seen as much as you would Stateside (due to the high prevalence of wrestlers over there).

@HokiHumby

Жыл бұрын

@@thejapanarchocommunist in competitive judo, leg grabs are illegal so folks aren't as used to defending against them.

@HokiHumby

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ive encountered very few black belts with whom i am afraid to spar with at high intensity. if you have good ukemi and they're not big-headed ego dudes. was always careful to politely turn down randori with people i didn't feel safe with.

As an amateur boxer, Judo seems to me really applicable to self-defence.

@DavidSmith-fs5qj

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There is a guy called Geoff Thompson, who is a protection expert, who says that in his opinion, the best forms for self defence are western boxing and judo.

@AyahuascaSage

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I've done both judo and BJJ for several years and IMO judo is one of the best martial arts to choose for self defense if you're only going to choose one to train in. I like the ability to spar regularly in judo/BJJ without worrying about head trauma like in striking martial arts, it teaches you how to quickly take down an attacker from a standing position (and allows you to then disengage and run away) and also teaches you how to defend yourself on the ground. Judoka don't usually focus quite as much on the ground as BJJ practitioners do, but if someone does judo a few times a week for a few years they will be more than capable of handling the average person if a fight goes to the ground.

@ThatSakia

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It was created and optimized for self defense by Kano. Evolution of competition rules (no leg grappling for example) made it a bit less efficient in that case, but you still get the main objectives of self def coupled with Jujutsu : the best efficiency with the less waste of energy.

@germ-x6855

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Yeah I do MT and in sparring I usually go two thirds of the session doing all the eight limbs and shit, but once I'm tired fuck man I just box, sweep, and clinch

@fredp.1539

Жыл бұрын

try BJJ

This is beautiful! Not a single ounce of ego on those mats! It's always interesting to see someone who is really good at something appreciating with joy how much more there might be to their learning journey! And to see someone teach/instruct with zero words spoken!

Out classed. Hope you learn lots. What a great opportunity for a randori session

My coach is 60 with a pacemaker, but also was in the Egyptian Olympic team and competed in Sambo. He’ll close his eyes or look away like he’s bored and do whatever he wants to you.

@kennethlerman5369

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I always felt that those types of practitioners were kind of hilarious. They turn me into a pretzel while also checking around the room to make sure they aren't getting into anyone else's sparring session.

@spencersashauncensored3250

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@@kennethlerman5369 Yeah, or if people get wild bell direct who he’s working with moving them towards that person and foot sweep them while effortlessly handling his bigger, stronger, brown/black belt training partner. There’s levels to it, he’s just that dang good.

One if the aspects of Judo in training is to always protect your partner. It’s called the gentle way for a reason. Great partner.

Shit, he's not even trying. I trained with the sparring partner of one of the New Zealand Olympic team for about a year back in the early 90's. He didn't compete any more, but he'd been doing judo so long that he was a challenge for the Olympic team members. Lovely guy. He would let you try all sorts of things before just ..... melting away.... and then you were flat on your back with zero idea of how you got there. It was immense fun. He never used strength to push a technique through. He'd use it sometimes just to set you up, but then he became butter and the world just evaporated in effortless movement for a second or three. Never managed to throw or pin him. Learnt so much from him kicking the crap out of me in the most gentle way possible.

As a guy that has done judo. You have no idea how super sick that Canadian dude is. He's literally rag dolling a purple belt.

Thanks for the video. Shows how different the stand up element of the sports are. I’ve sparred with Olympic medalists at their peak and is genuinely eye opening.

Really nice to see just 2 athletes having fun and learning from each other, no ego involved, we need more of that

He appears to be patient and gentle to me. Seems like a good teacher or training partner.

So smooth ! Very impressive!

That looks like a lot of fun. Judo is such a great art

i’ve only studied judo for a short amount of time, but this looks like a classic match. i don’t know either of these guys, but the title says a lot. the man in blue shows a jedi level of relaxation and control. i love watching sparring/rolling across ranks that isn’t a pissing match! well done boys.

1:22 😁 That laugh sounds like my practice space when my judoka friend comes over. Wonderful 🤙🏼

So freakin smooth.🔥🔥🔥

That's how judo IS supposed to be fun and entertaining. Love this

its difficult to train like this. Soft but effectively. Good job both.

I beg to disagree. Doing Judo with an Olympian will only make you stronger.

feel free to correct me 0:17 ken ken o soto gari 1:03 hiza guruma 1:34 uchi mata 2:07 o uchi gari

That hopping kosoto-gari is absolutely beautiful to watch!

Olymipic guy always has a good grip to start with. That's where everything makes a difference.

Same thing with my senseis at my Dojo. Crazy how they are ''playing'' with you, but it is good training and it teaches a lot!

Smart to recognise a weakness and cross train, but I hope you are getting some foundational work as well. Ask him about breaking kuzushi and irimi(sp?) and how to develop and defend those. I saw some grip fighting on your side but he was mostly working your kuzushi with not much grip changing relative to you. A deeper game I think.

Gotta learn somehow. Looks like all the more reason to.

the judoka's grip fighting!

Amazing 👍👍💪💪👊👊🥋🥋

I use to LOVE training with the black belts in my judo days, was the only time I never got hurt by someone cause they had amazing technique

Hahahah. When I saw him grab the high collar and just walk in I’m thinking, I sure he doesn’t launch him. Great training partners

looks like they're having fun

Judo guy was being super nice

this right here guys.. is why its so important to cross train in both :D

I was only focused on the conversation between the french guy and the quebecois lol are you from canada? i only realised recently how much french judo is valued through the world (ive heard its pretty usual for american to learn judo through a french coach) for us french person its really common to have kids go take some judo classes for a year or two, its really rare for someone not to had either judo or football or both as a kid and i cant speak for the other but i remember that only when i grew older i realised how much teddy riner is not just any athlete, i grew hearing a lot about him on TV like tony parker but i took some time to realised how what they did for their sport was international and 1 in a billion type of guys they are. And btw the level gap in this video is phenomal there is a video of french pro mma fighter and jjb black belt who tried to go against a judoka from the french olympic team and not even close mma guy couldnt do anything despite trying is best

I really like how he's barely trying lol

This reminds me of a puppy playing with his father, lol

I actually did some light sparring a while back with Maxime. I'm about 220lbs and he was throwing me around like I was a wrestling doll. Very strong guy.😂

Love it nice and easy when you get older you can't maintain that intensity so it's all about the flow

it's interesting how all of his attacks were front-facing. He only had that one where he turned his back slightly, but all of these seemed to be very effective against someone that would instinctively keep their weight back (BJJ)

I tend to get great at skills by throwing myself against VASTLY superior opponents. I've always called it investing in failure. If you have the right mindset it's invaluable.

@ConqueringLionKappa

Жыл бұрын

This, tougher opponents will put you in situations you have rarely faced before, making you more adaptable, They also seem to be very good at explaining your weaknesses and how to improve on them.

The difference from elite grapplers compared to high level amateurs is insane. I sparred with an Olympic alternate wrestler once and it felt like he could crush me any second he felt like it. Thankfully he was a cool guy and didnt

I like friendly training when there is skill shown but not any form of violence 🤚🤛

I enjoyed watching this video. In Europe nobody would train in short pants though 😅

On the contrary, Judo with an Olympic Judoka as much as you can. You will learn a lot and become better.

He’s going 20%

I would say the opposite: judo with olympic judokas, and in general with stronger athletes. That's a great opportunity to learn! You'll get thrown a lot but that's how you learn. Also, like in the video, they usually use so little force because their technique is incredibly clean

He was been nice.

What you meant to say is DO spare with Olympic judoka. There's a great value in learning from your mistakes.

Don't judo with an Olympic Judoka... Well... Why not? Seems like an amazing opportunity to learn some and take some flight lessons 😊 I'd absolutely judo with Olympians. I'd look like a toddler but I definitely would learn some awesome stuff 👍

And with who should I judo with? A boxer?

Lol. Fun times

Should be titled DO Judo with an Olympic Judoka. Safe and plenty to learn from, couldn’t ask for a better partner ;-)

Q: Do you learn a lot about kazushi in BJJ? Or grip fighting?

@AyahuascaSage

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It depends a lot on the school and the backgrounds of the instructors. I do both judo and BJJ so have some perspective on this. My first BJJ school taught takedowns in BJJ and really was thorough about teaching the technique properly by including the off-balancing that you must do prior to the actual throw. IIRC both of the head coaches are judo black belts which is a huge part of why. My second BJJ school has only one judoka in it--me--and some of the coaches do not even start sparring rounds standing, lol. One of our coaches teaches judo takedowns occasionally but besides that almost all of our takedowns are wrestling-based. It's really a shame because from a self-defense standpoint I think judo is one of the best martial arts you can learn.

I'd say the opposite: by all means DO judo with an Olympic Judoka, if only you've got the chance... 🙂

I'd rather be thrown by a high level judoka than a white belt. At least they have control

That guy is at 20% power

BJJ : put me down please! JUDO: yeah, but i will throw you t the ground you will land dead!

okay i won’t, i’ll wrestle him or pull guard into bjj ❤️🙏🏼

When a Judoka gets that high lapel grip its over 😆. Remeber bois. Te Guruma is a natural counter to the high collar.

Hobbyist vs world class athelete😂😂

2:14 good school, entering the dojo must bow....

@thememaster7

Жыл бұрын

Boxing and BJJ don't do that

@lunam7249

Жыл бұрын

@@thememaster7 ya... thats the problem

Is he a purple - almost brown - belt of BJJ?

He taking it so easy to lol

Ça parle Oui Oui baguette 🥖 derrière

Are there submissions in Judo? I have no idea of the rules in a judo competition.

@waikrujudovic

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Chokes & armlocks. Pins count as a win also if you control 25 seconds. Not sure if the new rules in the time but in that range for a pin

@ww3032

Жыл бұрын

In addition to what victor had said you have a very limited time to work on the ground.

1:40 😂😂😂

Is my friend maxim côté. Futur mma champion of the word

Like a cat with mouse

Judo looks so fun

@50newdude

Жыл бұрын

Judo is very fun as long as u and training partners are not trying to injury u

@VincentTamer

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@@50newdude I'm hoping I can find a good dojo to join. Thanks for the encouragement!

@data9594

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Best martial art have tried. So much fun. Around my area it’s 150+ I couldn’t justify the cost anymore

Pull guard lol

That's all technique. Not even forcing any of the moves there. There are levels to this game. lol

What’s the proper name of the sweep he was doing. With his right foot behind the knee? He did repeatedly.

@thomascarsonbjj8226

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Traditionally referred Kosoto Gari. But Max doesn't a hopping version 👍🥋

Not challenging but Blue BJJ belt learning from olimpic level judoka.

Nice how he tries to fool a superior fighter with a fake handshake in the beginning…and than got a lesson.

Ashi guruma Ko soto gari Hiza guruma x 2 Uchimata Ouchi gari That was too easy for him...

It’s my favorite thing to get smashed by Rick Hawn!

Olympic?

Blue belt against Olympic judoka. What did u expect? His main concern is not to hurt you

Man forget judo and wrestling. Wanna face off on the mats !? I’ll just SIT DOWN.

@Veritas-dq2hs

Жыл бұрын

i guess

@DR-jz1es

Жыл бұрын

@@Veritas-dq2hs yeah you guess but it’s the solution. Go ahead an hip Todd my while I’m sitting.

@Veritas-dq2hs

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@@DR-jz1es that is very beta of you, but ok

@DR-jz1es

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@@Veritas-dq2hs hahaha it’s part of the sport tho.

@alexcardoso4487

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@@Veritas-dq2hs Roger gracie, rickson, Royce, marcelo Garcia, gordan ryan...

pulling guard is only not shameful against: --a judoka --a wrestler --someone 10+ years younger --someone 50+lbs heavier

@BillHallProductions

Жыл бұрын

I'm a fairly new Judoka but also big and fat. So a lot of the BJJ guys in the club eventually pull guard on me. I watched like one video on countering that and if someone pulls guard on me it's a problem for them. Maybe these guys suck at pulling guard or maybe I'm just amazing. But it makes me wonder why it works so consistently in BJJ. The only thing I do is block their foot or failing that strip.their foot from my side and I'm in side position. It seem like BJJ guys should have made pulling guard outdated by now. It's a super simple technique but it's worked pretty consistently. It was in a video titled guard passes even a whitbelt can learn.

@Dave-mv1yk

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@@BillHallProductions I don't think those guys broke your posture enough pulling guard, since passing it shouldn't be that easy, or maybe you are just an extremely fast learner

@BillHallProductions

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@user-oe3ki4vb9k yeah that's also probably true. I am awesome. But seriously though probably. I don't know enough to judge. I do know I am not a fast learner. Just got my yellow belt at 38 years old and it was extremely difficult for me to understand how this stuff worked. I'd say I didn't really understand the hip throws till a month before promotion.

@BillHallProductions

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@user-oe3ki4vb9k this is the video I have been caught when we start on the ground but from standing they'd have to get me distracted first. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6Js2phrhZm3eNY.html

@BillHallProductions

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Also once i sweep their foot I land on them with a bit of my weight. Not enough to crush them but enough to pin them down while i get Yoko shio

You have to avoid that high collar grip he's got on you! Green belt Judo/Purple belt friend of mine gets that grip on me and I'm done for!

When there's such a mismatch in skills does either player actually get anything out of the randori session?

@bobot4155

Жыл бұрын

balls

@XXXB1EAKXXX

Жыл бұрын

fun

@TylerDurden-oy2hm

Жыл бұрын

you only learn by going against better people....who else can teach you??

@angelsjoker8190

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@@TylerDurden-oy2hm That's just plain wrong! You can learn from all levels of opponents. Against lower levels, because you can try out and be creative with new stuff as your base is better, against same level you get the challenge of realistic resistance and you're forced to stay sharp and up your game, and against better opponents you have to adapt, but that only works if they're just a bit better than you. If they are much better than you and they do the same stuff they'd do against their level of opponents, you wouldn't learn much because you won't understand what they. If however they decide to give you a repeated problem just slightly above your level, then you can learn a lot.

@TheGamerGameplay1

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The one getting wrecked get experience, also humbleness. The more experienced fighter have the opportunity to test different things and see how would he fare against an unexperienced fighter

You're stand up is like negative white belt 🤣🤣

@thomascarsonbjj8226

Жыл бұрын

Thanks bud 👍 Your leglock defense is negative white belt😂

xD

Idk why but i feel the purple belt is really rigid in movements, not even tries a proper uchikomi, he was beaten way before starting the randori

@thomascarsonbjj8226

Жыл бұрын

Nice comment asshole. Max would do the same to you😂

@TheGamerGameplay1

Жыл бұрын

He is a BJJ purple belt, not judo. He seems to lack some standup experience, which is normal given most BJJ gyms do only Newaza (ground fight). @Thomas, what you think about starting at Judo? It will make you a more well-rounded fighter

@jasonrose6288

Жыл бұрын

That happens when you know you're outclassed. It's an involuntary reaction to avoid being thrown.

@counterkidnapping1737

Жыл бұрын

What'd you expect when you grapple against a Olympic Judoka? Why don't you try it yourself?

@jasonrose6288

Жыл бұрын

@@counterkidnapping1737 I've done it a few times. It's fun, humbling and terrifying in equal measure.

There is reason why it’s called grabbing

Jiu-jitsu guys really need to upgrade their stand up game , their throws suck in comparison to judo

Why the fuck KZread sent me here?

that is the biggest purple belt joke I ever seen !!! Go do some ping pong or whatever but stop filming you doing BJJ!! OMG

I trained GI BJJ back in 2005 and when I had to roll with the higher belts I was always like "aww shit" but honestly I could tell a lot of them played defense until the got bored.. they would let me get mount and other "dominant" positions and defend and at the flip of a switch would sweep me and make me tap.. I miss training BJJ a lot but since training in 2005 I have gained like 100LBs today but i stopped training then because I couldn't afford it being a you g 23 year old and rent etc.. now I'm a late 30s with bills and a kid haha.. I hope this isn't offense to the purple belt practitioner but I think you should embrace shaving your head, Ive seen guys with a receeding hairline and balding spot in the back shave their head and it looks a lot better. I am not trying to be am asshole but just my opinion..

In the old days black belt judo guys would come in my Brazilian jujitsu academy. One of us guys and do what they’re doing with greet him start standing with him. We just put my right foot on his hip holding his right arm and left lapel and fall back in a clock like circular session and the guys are unlocked and it’s over next

That is terrible defense and balance by the white jacket regardless who the opponent is.

I love Judo and BJJ. But a BJJ guy can't play Judo with a Judoka. There are takedowns in BJJ that even Judokas have a hard time dealing with or have never seen.

@Veritas-dq2hs

Жыл бұрын

like?

@nbrace-tl8ku

Жыл бұрын

@@Veritas-dq2hs - The Imanari roll is one. Different sacrifice throws. Jumping into triangles. Jumping to guard and takedown. Wrestling type take downs. Did you get to see the Ruotolos compete against the Sambo players and the takedowns they used. Very unorthodox but they worked.

@Veritas-dq2hs

Жыл бұрын

@@nbrace-tl8ku Ok, imanari roll is a variation of a leg lock attack. Obviously these don't exist in modern Judo bc they lead to leg locks. Jumping into triangles, pulling guard, and wrestling throws are known in Judo. Some Judoka are great at doubles, singles, fireman carries, and even ankle picks.

@nbrace-tl8ku

Жыл бұрын

@@Veritas-dq2hs - Many of the ones I mentioned lead to the opponent having to go to the ground to defend the attack. Especially the Imanari roll. You may not consider those "clean throws" but the result is the same. Get your man to the ground and try to finish him. You are right that Judo does not have leglocks, their loss. That is what I meant by a BJJ player trying to play Judo with a Judoka, different modalities.

@Veritas-dq2hs

Жыл бұрын

@@nbrace-tl8ku well, if you want to have a more combat centered grappling game, learn some legit takedowns. Butt scooting and pulling guard isn't the move if you want well rounded ground game, but maybe for grappling tournaments it's ok.

It's not polite to laugh at Judoka members as they try to do their best, given the level of talent that they might have at this point in their training. Laughing at learning is not the right spirit.