Honestly, I think these are good things when plants are mass produced and the market treats goes down. This makes the plants available for everyone to purchase and not just for people who are extremely well off. Also, when a rare plant is more commercially available then we don’t have people poaching plants in the wild. Let’s keep making plants available for everyone lol!

@orphaxx1254

2 жыл бұрын

I think any decent human being should think like that. But these people and the video isn’t for normal plant parents, moreover for people who want to make money with plants… 🥴 weird af but that’s capitalism lol

@BeckyAngelix

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@mycomment3509

2 жыл бұрын

@@orphaxx1254 It's still a ponzi scheme though..

@iamjaviervillegas

2 жыл бұрын

I come from a background of collecting vinyl records & I didn’t realise those looney collector types existed in the plant world (as I’m fairly new to it). Sheesh, was I wrong!!

@lunity1111

Жыл бұрын

Lots of plants are affordable tho, rare plant collectors are not just getting plants, they probably at least sell cuttings to get newer plants and if you spent £800 on one hoping its an investment, then a big company with endless resources mass produces them, it just makes it impossible for small sellers to make money, or even get their money back. It’s actually kind of the opposite ….. cheap rare plants just means big mass producers are making bank and small sellers cannot make anything really.

Can we have a epipremnum rare plant index would love to see more species of my favorite genus💖✨💕

@dsepisodes

2 жыл бұрын

What about dreacena 😏

@MNemerald

2 жыл бұрын

the problem is i don’t think there’s very many at this point

@horace6851

2 жыл бұрын

@@MNemerald I don't know... I myself have 30 different Epipremnum, that includes 22 cultivars of aureum :) and I'm sure there is more I haven't heard of. There is definitely more in cultivation than Scindapsus and we've got a rare plant index for those. The aureum itself is a fascinating plant, it's endemic to one small island (50 sq mi), doesn't propagate by seed (can't produce flowers) and yet it's the most common houseplant in the world. Or at least it seems to be considering how everyone at some point or the other grows a pothos. Talk about a success story!

@charlottecobain6986

2 жыл бұрын

@@horace6851 I adore pothos. You’ve just inspired me to hunt for more epipremnums. I have all the types of pothos except for harlequin and a few scindapsus. Thanks for the inspiration! I seem to be on a houseplant buying spree this spring 😂

@horace6851

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlottecobain6986 You're welcome! Good thing pothos cuttings are generally not expensive so I won't feel guilty :) I love Epipremnum too, there always have been at least one of them growing in my home since I remember. My mom had a giant one on the wall. I need to replace my n'Joy, it was too close to the window over winter and did not survive, so I guess it's plant shopping time for me to :))

Monstera esqueleto gets mistaken for monstera adansonii which is why here in Mexico they don't pay attention to it, this monstera esqueleto is a plant that a regular plant-loving household has. I got mine and it costed like 3 USD. Crazy it's a thing in other countries.

@M_SC

2 жыл бұрын

that kind of thing is so funny.

@iamjaviervillegas

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing & lucky!!

Time to learn how to TC my own plants and start undermining all these high prices from the ground up.

Regarding the Spiritus Sancti: Summer Rayne Oaks recently featured a tour of a couple's Victorian Greenhouse and they have a section explaining how to propagate it due to it's problems with propagating, well worth checking out. Even without the info on the Spiritus Sancti it is an awesome tour with some amazing plants and historical information.

@faeribex

2 жыл бұрын

Watched a video recently of a guy who (apparently) managed to get one to seed and got thousands of seeds to sprout. He even showed a few variegates but no idea if there was a follow up or if they made it to market.

@laurenervin1404

2 жыл бұрын

I IMMEDIATELY remembered that tour and convo about the issues with propagating the Spiritus Sancti when she said that! It's definitely a good watch. What a cool tour!

@o1139

2 жыл бұрын

@@faeribex The variegated Spiritus Sancti was selling for 20k or more

@faeribex

2 жыл бұрын

@@o1139 oof 😅

@emily2691

2 жыл бұрын

@@faeribex most likely was Red Leaf Exotics. I believe they were the first to produce SS from seed in the US. Also yes they have gone to market lol. I want to say they were about 1k. I just checked their website again and they’re down to $500 for a non variegated seedling!

I love the way you model the plants in your hand in these last couple videos, it kind of reminds me of those girls on gameshows showing prizes lol, good information though.

As much as I love collecting the rare plants I find selling the more common and affordable plants is much easier way to supplement the funds to put towards those items. I can sell spider plants and golden pothos all day everyday with little effort or danger of loss. Prices coming down drastically in my area has helped exponentially on the more uncommon but common plants are still holding value.

@tonibauer2405

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input. I am a long time, generally successful plant grandma, at age 75. Living on social security is hard and I am now propagating plants to try to sell on varied sites. May I ask if you sell online or out of your home? I am focusing on lower and only slightly higher priced plants that seem easier to propagate.

@bethanynewell9601

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonibauer2405 I sell locally only on Facebook marketplace. Easy to do a few low level props and test your local market. I have even had some local sellers buy me out of 4 inch pots of pothos @$5 a pot. Not bad when you have lots of stock I bought my clarinervium from that sale and was about $10 in supplies between pots and soil and fertilizer. Plus I love growing things so it's a win all around for me. I never plan to make it a main source of income, just support my habit.

@tonibauer2405

2 жыл бұрын

@@bethanynewell9601 thanks, Bethany! That sounds appealing. I can’t do a yard sale type thing as I moved from a house to a secure apartment in 2016. And it is a lot of work sending stuff through the mail. I will surely look into Facebook Marketplace. Have you ever tried Craig’s List?

@bethanynewell9601

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonibauer2405 I have not used Craig's list. There are people in my neighboring cities who use carts to bring down from appartmentss when someone is coming to purchase a plant. Or meet at a local public spot.

@andreachang9998

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that depends on your local market. I've had the opposite experience. It would take me the same effort to prop spider plants v. Philo burle marx, but the spider plants people don't want even when free.

For those with a small budget are so many possibities to get plants, even rare plants, by swapping cuttings or plants, buying baby-plants, buying poor broken plants in a bulk. However some of these 'rare' plants are over the top, even as tiny babies. I wouldn't buy them either.

Have had an awful week Kaylee and seeing you video notification pop up has made my day...hope you are well, you are an inspiration Kaylee. Thank you...🌱💚

Got a 2 leaf esqueleto this week for £80 and I AM THRILLED! Have waited to add to my collection for ages!

ohh my god i have never seen that last one and i am madly inlove with my tiny baby crappy cutting of a monstera adensonii , this his him just scaled up x40 HAHAAA i love it

I need an esqueleto. Not to sell or anything but for myself.

Scored an established monstera albo for 10 pounds in an auction recently, just because no one wanted it thanks to some scratched leaves from a cat in its previous home. Thanks Kaylee for making me hold back for a deal on this plant instead of paying far over market value, even though I've been wanting this plant for years!

@research5722

2 жыл бұрын

10 pounds!?! That is a score!

@ashketchum9165

2 жыл бұрын

A very nice plant lady sold me an established PPP for 15€ so glad I waited!

This is the first video where I saw a plant and found one for $30, and immediately bought it. I don't plant to resell, I just enjoy collecting. I love adasonii (just got a cutting for the wide version) so finding a leaf similar and LARGE is like a dream plant for me. One 2 leaf monstera esqueleto cutting is on it's way! I'm super excited to watch it grow and get some huge leaves! Thank you for your videos they are always so informative, and this time I found it affordable. (Thought this is the highest price plant I've bought so far!)

I’m actually not really upset as a plant collector because the oblique and esquelito are both on my wishlist so it’ll be nice to get one at s more affordable price, and I didn’t really want to variegated adinsonii but for a cheaper price I might get one now

@iamjaviervillegas

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a shop here in NYC that currently has big established Esqueleto’s for about $140 which isn’t bad for the size!

I own quite a few of the plants on this list, but I was quite happy about getting them for cheap! People in my area are pretty nice and usually happy to sell their propagates for a fraction of the price they paid initially. The only ones who are gatekeeping their plants at super high prices are the ones who sell variegated plants. Monstera borsigiana albo is still going for around 300-1000CAD while you'll get stuff like the classic Philodendrons and Anthuriums as well as some obscure Monsteras for about 10-40CAD. Managed to get two Monstera obliqua runners (Amazonas and Peru) for 70CAD lately and Philodendron Spiritus Sancti goes for 600CAD at the moment, so I caved in... Can't wait to get it huge!

In indonesia the plants are quite affordable A monstera albo used to cost 300 aud now its 80aud depending on the variegation and leaf shape. (The white tiger monstera are favorable and people hoard them here) Obliqua used to be $2500 aud now its 30-50 aud Variegated adonsonii used to be $1000 aud now its $100

I got a Philodendron Spiritus Sancti (acclimatised Tissue Culture) baby plant for just £20 recently and the seller still has them for sale at that price. :3

I got two albo mid cuttings with good roots for around 30 pounds this year, they've recently acclimatised to their potting mix and the first leaf shoots have appeared now, three months on. Not looking to make money on mine, just want it for myself, think they're so beautiful

You’re little intro shots of the shop look so nice. Hope you’re well 💕

I totally get that the monstera b. albo is pretty up there around the world. But I cannot help it but laugh a bit, because I'm sitting here and bought 2 very well rooted cuttings for a total of 30usd in november. One of them got root rot and died, but the other one is just about to pop out the third very beautiful fenestested leaf 😊

@debbiefox6846

2 жыл бұрын

I think the plant prices really vary across the US due to shipping and hold backs. Hard to find a good bargain.

I do love her videos, very good information. Thank you kaylee Ellen.

Thank you That was fun! I appreciate your opinion very much.

I just bought a way too expensive baby monstera albo (UK based) that clearly needs some love (and some hydroperoxide, siiiiigh......) and i wish id found your channel sooner to save me from my future headache of giving the baby the care she deserves. She has some root rot, is missing a leaf, and has some small brown holes in her single leaf (the non swiss cheesy kind). You're really helping me out here, and i subscribed! Also: YES YOURE A PROFESSIONAL! GIRL 😂😂😂 if that kind of shop doesnt count towards your professionalism, what does 😂 give yourself some credit, goodness me

For me, The Esqueleto. Just because it is gorgeous. 🌱❤️🌱❤️

I live in Australia and the prices you are giving as typical examples are a dream here. WAY more expensive for us, up to 10x more. I have given up on buying rare plants. Have been lucky a couple of times - got a Hoya kerrii splash cutting and a Thai monstera cutting that both grew really well for cheap. Other than that, I have had very poor ROI on any "rare" plant I have bought.

I'm waiting for caramel marble and billie variegated to come down in price :)

Yep you called it. For an albo and thai constalation low tripple digits cost. Screw it though there so cool even as a few single leaf cuttings.

When you shot a video in front of the green wall you said a tour of your office plants may follow. Waiting patiently. That last Monstera, OMG!

First time here & staying, thank you! Most informative & engaging UK based creator I have seen to date. Love your shop, would love a walk through video (if there isn’t one yet).

I have a tissue culture farm near my house and the garden centre here buys from them, and I don't know what it is, but I got thearthurium crystallinum for 4 euro's. Among with many other rare plants that are highly priced.

I really like my esqueleto. it's such a nice plant and the leaves size up relatively fast. What I like about climbing monstera in general is that they are easier to get climbing than philodendrons for example. you set them against a wall or an unsealed piece of wood and they're happy, you just feed/water them and don't need to deal with spraying moss poles.

@iamjaviervillegas

2 жыл бұрын

I really want the Esqueleto.. I recently bought a Pinnatipartita & can’t wait to see it climb & fenestrate!! Cost was $25USD for a 4” pot w/ 4 leaves!

Love that you started with the Albo. Stepped up my plant collection during lockdown. I bought an Albo cutting in 2020 and that's turned into 5 separate plants so yes...I will be selling some cuttings. I'm in the UK so the growth is quite slow but getting there. Thanks for your great work and channel.

@shivanimahida5544

Жыл бұрын

How much are cuttings

Totally agree with these. Especially anthurium. They were hot a year + ago. Now, wayyyy cheaper. I got a small clarinervium for $20 cdn a little bit ago. And the crystallinum I got a year ago are worth nothing. I love them though. They are special to me.

@M_SC

2 жыл бұрын

What? I want them for that price.

Hey there! Don’t know if you’ve heard about Red Leaf Exotics! They grew a whole bunch of PSS from seed!!! Quite the achievement, and their babes are $500 USD!!

Saw clearanced out Lynamii in San Diego over the weekend for $70, crazy to see for a large sized plant but awesome to see prices come down after covid prices.

@moniquevanderziel9932

2 жыл бұрын

What, really? I am in San Diego and have never seen one around, guess I am just not hitting up the right spots!

@sherryporsch9349

2 жыл бұрын

Wow what a great price! 😀

@thebeauceronboys9397

2 жыл бұрын

@@moniquevanderziel9932 are you in the San Diego Houseplant BST group? The first part of the orchid show at the botanical garden was last weekend and the leftovers were sold in the group at clearanced prices.

got my variegated adansonii for 70€ which is like less than £60, it already had like 6 leaves but I am pretty happy with that since it's been on my wishlist for quite some time.

Not me having just “invested” in a Lynamii a week ago 😂

Beautiful plants 🪴 Like it. Thank you for good sharing

I think I saw in someones video of a plant show that monstra esequeletto is comming to mass market in the US. i hope so!

Omg, this is the first time I adore your look, I love natural make up, very suitable fo you :*

I am too addicted to both plants and your videos XD and once if forgotten about all the plants i want you post a new video and i gotta add so many more to my wishlist😭 (i dont care too much about investment as now i am currently collecting for my own sake)

I've been waiting for this 👏

I recently bought a mature Albo with 6 big leaves and two more on the way + several long aereal roots in one of Swedens biggest online plantshops. I payed under £60 and that included shipping.

@tracyjohnson3596

2 жыл бұрын

You hit lucky 👏🏻

Yaaay been waiting for this one since last week 😆

Awesome video as always 💚💚💚

Hello Kelly I learn a lot from your video I'm new in indoor plants just a new hobby.

Hey good looking, hope you have a blast at your vacation 👌I'm glad some of these plants come down in price since I am not one to buy investment plants for selling but just for pure enjoyment of the gorgeous leaves :D I'd rather have an esqueleto than an adansonii anytime🌿 Also, your face with that monstera albo when you hold the leaf up had me wheezing, love those faces and humor of yours! Keep going with what you're doing, it's amazing

I really want a Monstera Esqueleto. Maybe I’ll get one at the end of summer, I just think it’s such a beautiful plant.

@jenniferjsaracino

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely get one they are so pretty

Adansonii can absolutely get that big. One of mine has leaves that are just a little bit smaller than that. Maybe an inch smaller at most. Probably not even that much. I’ve had it on a moss pole in my turtle room (85°F+ & 75-80% Humidity) with a a couple of SANSI grow lights & mine is about 5 feet tall & the leaves are massive. It’s looks like a wild adansonii. I bought it when it only had like 5 leaves from a big box store here in the US for $5. It was actually 5 plants in one pot (I should say 5 barley rooted, shitty cuttings wrapped in death plugs. Costa farms has gone down hill) & I split up the plants & gave a few away as gifts & the one I kept has become a beautiful giant. I believe it’s a “wide leaf” Adansonii. However I have another one that’s more of a trailing type & even those leaves are about 6-7 inches long. She’s also on a moss pole. She’s not as bushy as my wife leaf. But she’s getting there. Both were bought from big box stores. one was costa farms & the other was wild interiors I believe. Idk maybe the ones sold in the US are some weird hybrids but I have seen quite a few ppl with massive Adansonii’s like mine.

The monstera albo in Australia is easily mid to high triple digits for a baby or 1/2 leaf cutting

I’m ready for new rare families and species of tropical folliage exotic plants🥵💚

@hola-rk3lr

2 жыл бұрын

Just imagine a new family with super exotic leaves🤞🏼🥵

@hola-rk3lr

2 жыл бұрын

For example Aroids are trendy family since a while. What about a new family with new species super tropical exotic plants💚🪐

@horace6851

2 жыл бұрын

@@hola-rk3lr there are whole communities of orchid, carnivorous plants, succulents or hoya growers :) A rare cycas can cost upwards of 80k so aroids isn't even top game.

@hola-rk3lr

2 жыл бұрын

@@horace6851 but thats a common well known family. I would love to be God and create a new family with several species in the most tropical rainforest with the coolest leaves like anthurium regale but more pretty, juicy and exotic🥺🤞🏼

Actually, what is commonly known as variegated adansonii are not adansonii at all but noID's from the lechleriana complex. The only true variegated adansonii currently in circulation are forms of the laniata.

I just purchased a 8 leaf baby spiritus for $300....

I would absolutely LOVE to own an esqueleto some day!

How about a video on different types of monstera obliqua and if there is something like true obliqua?

I know you will never see this but I'll say so anyway, I would adore to watch you unpack plants from your wholesalers. I remember one tome you unpacked some huge warocs (I believe) I could watch videos like that for hourssssss.

Obliqua I saw that at food city but I’m from the states. It was like $35

Need a updated version :)

I buy plants from plant decor shop. They have plants in 4” pot for cheap. Also they give one free, and their good with refund if your plant comes in damaged.

I’d love an aglaonema RPI!

If cheaper price tag makes you not want the plant, you probably don’t want that plant anyway.

@Dhruv_Dogra

6 ай бұрын

The best most insightful comment on the situation 👌

Thanks for the new vid :)

Oooh I’m early! Lookin good Kaylee! ❤️

Actually, Regarding the tissue culture plants, I think in some cases they have been found to be inferior and weak. I can only speak of my experience with Rhaphidophora Tetrasperma. I had one “real” one then purchased a TC version. The tissue culture was weak, rotted when I tried to propagate, and yellowed then died. The nursery where I purchased the TC one never replenished them. My Original Rhaph is 6 ft tall and beautiful. So….. Maybe that is a reason some plants fall out of fashion? I would never knowingly purchase a TC plant….. Based on my past experiences. They’re like a weak mutation. Imho.

the point is do not get any rare plant at all

I would for sure like TCed spiritus sancti from a grocery shop. 😁 Not gonna happen very soon...

Just got a TC monstera thai constellation for $35, I hope it doesn't give up on me as this will be my first TC plant.

Can't wait for the prices of the Spiritus Sancti to come down. I've wanted one for ages, but I'm not exactly rich.

I’m not in the plant buying and selling space as an investor, but just from observing I noticed a quick and drastic price drop in Hoya Silver Dollar. Just half a year ago small, two leaf cuttings were selling for $800-$1000, now I’m seeing them for as low as $100.

@debbiefox6846

2 жыл бұрын

Here in US a 2 leaf cutting is about $300-$450 USD. Ridiculous in my opinion seeing as how a Hoya can turn on u on a dime. Way too risky for me. Hoya are way too expensive in general and people raiding the forests & burning down areas so others can't collect is all too common. Couldn't believe it when I heard this was going on. Incredibly sad to have such a thing happen over a plant that nobody wants to share. Hoyas are so slow growing too.

Off topic, but I love your background!

I just got 2 albo nodes for $40 usd so at least I don’t feel too scared about losing them! I can’t imagine spending what most are still asking for…

Very informative

Pacific Northwest is still mid three figures. Would love to get one

Amazing I never knew there were so many different monsteras, is it possible to cross pollinate similar philodendrons to produce hybrid offspring?

just ordered a forgetii..:) very happy tho; mature plant for less than 50 euro's

I love my albos, heavily marbled, 1k a cutting in Australia

I saw a full eskeletor at a local pikes' nursery recently for 35, guess i should have got it lol

I've learnt that I haven't got what I takes as anything I spend money on dies and the cheap stuff lives forever

Please do some review about homalomena tricolour as not many info we can get about it in english

Thanks great video..maybe they may come to nz.cheaper

Is there any advice for growing an Obliqua from runners, I bought one and it started producing runners, ironically I thought it was an Adansonii at first but the runners finally came and I wanted to try and see how to get them rooted, should I cut it off? Or pin the runner to the moss pole?

Pest magnets! I live in the subtropics and I have difficulty growing aroids. The most high maintenance and difficult plants I’ve ever grown… Best grown in the tropics with natural rainfall. Pests on these plants will keep you busy 👎

Totally agree

Thanks ur awesome,,

Bought a monstera albo and absolutely hated it

@noemyg28

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! May I ask why? I love my albo, although it’s been a slow grower for me, but love it still the same.

@MiamiBeachNativeInNYC

2 жыл бұрын

@@noemyg28 i won a beautiful one in a giveaway and killed it :( …I’ve become a Hoya addict since then lol

@noemyg28

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiamiBeachNativeInNYC lol oh no! I would have been so bummed. I do love Hoyas as well, though my collection currently mostly consists of small cuttings I’m hoping will grow into big plants some day. My bigger plants are the basic carnosa krimson queen and princess. I love compactas but can’t keep them alive for the life of me 🤦🏻‍♀️

What your store website I want to see your rare plants to purchase

Can you talk about the ming aralia plant?

Sanaol! I wish everyone had that variegated plants. In my place wild monstera are just normal plain green and grow like a pest here. Tbh I have a question can you turn normal monstera to have or become variegated?

The monstera albo it's def going down, I just found a local shop (Spain) that had two fully rooted 3 leaf plants (size like the one that you showed) for 95€

@hola-rk3lr

2 жыл бұрын

En que parte de España? Por curiosidad pq ya la tengo

@anschn7166

Жыл бұрын

Still far too much for a plant that size, so hopefully they keep going down to reasonable levels asap.

@hola-rk3lr

Жыл бұрын

@@anschn7166 pov: You dont have the albo

@hola-rk3lr

Жыл бұрын

@@anschn7166 cheap things? Who wants that

One home box shop had varigated monstera adansoni on sale for 990 EUR... it got very sad and crispy and price was lovered to 300 EUR... idk what happed to it after that.

monstera burle marx flame can we have a video on y this is so expensive

I watch these to see what I’ll be able to afford soon.

Great to see you! Now to watch! Haha

Grrrrreat advice

I want one of those antheriums soooo bad.... theyre at $425 a leaf where i am....... id kill for it to be in high double digits

Im SO SUPRISE you said thai is a good investment but the Albo isnt?! Huh suprising. But im Glad haha cuz I chose the thai. I find her more pwetty 🖤

I agree about the PSS. I just bought a juvie for $300. I'm glad I was out of the country and waited until I was back.

There selling the plant on Ecuagenera for 1000 dollars . The site from Florida

Esqueleto likes my care way better then the adansonii so I’m happier with it 😂 but they grow like weeds in Florida so if you have a connection it’s easy to obtain

@catherinebaghdan7231

2 жыл бұрын

Do you happen to have an esqueleto available? Would you like to trade?

@jenniferjsaracino

2 жыл бұрын

@@catherinebaghdan7231 sorry no, mines still growing out. But Florida sellers sell them for about $100 a leaf

@catherinebaghdan7231

2 жыл бұрын

@@jenniferjsaracino they sell weeds for $100 per leaf? Unbelievable!