Don't Buy a ZL1, Save $$$ & Supercharge a Camaro SS..Here's why!

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I've supercharged a 6 gen Camaro SS and now own a new ZL1. Supercharged SS is FASTER!! This is due to the LT1's higher compression.
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  • @ZtZoomin
    @ZtZoomin3 жыл бұрын

    What’s your opinion? Is supercharging an SS the better option?? Comment below and hit that like button!!

  • @robosullivan704

    @robosullivan704

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Confirmation! I got a '21 SS1LE with that exact purpose! I'm just waiting a bit to break her in until I SC her

  • @Chad_7777

    @Chad_7777

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bruce Lee is correct. Very important differences. You WILL fight heat issues supercharging an SS. My opinion is to go N/A if you are shooting for 600hp on an SS. N/A runs cooler and is easier on those non forged pistons and especially easier on the connecting rods.

  • @chosen1337

    @chosen1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Zl1 can handle more power , zl1 10 speed works better than a ss , if you add a supercharger on a ss it's probably gonna add alot more problems

  • @ironkobe

    @ironkobe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Zl1 looks better then a ss

  • @anthonyyo2054

    @anthonyyo2054

    3 жыл бұрын

    @BRUCE LEE yup, gonna need fuel upgrades past that. Im at 580 to the wheels with my pro charger. If I wanna go any higher I’d need the lt4 fuel kit and that ain’t cheap. Not even counting the forged internals

  • @camarochris78
    @camarochris783 жыл бұрын

    Good thing about ZL1 is you can add more boost without upgrading the internals.

  • @Sickguitarist123

    @Sickguitarist123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Boosted V8 Its not so much the blower that is the problem, its the fuel system. Stock blower can produce alot of power, but it gets hot as hell and you just straight up run out of fuel after a pulley and headers. If you want to put in a quality/reliable fuel system your looking at about 8-10k. Direct injection is EXPENSIVE to fuel.

  • @Sickguitarist123

    @Sickguitarist123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Boosted V8 Partly why I never opted to go that route on my SS. I put in a 416 stroker with forged internals and procharger. Fuel is the only thing holding me back now.

  • @ms3ben

    @ms3ben

    3 жыл бұрын

    True but the blower is small and there are expensive fuel system limitations if you want to make big power reliably Still a decent platform if you like driving a camaro.

  • @camarochris78

    @camarochris78

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you have the money to get a ZL1 you have the money to upgrade the fuel system. You can add better cooler to that blower or upgrade that.

  • @mjc3502

    @mjc3502

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Boosted V8 I have 15lbs on my stock ported. On pump I made 796hp to the tire. I have a small 219 230 cam.

  • @tonyj797
    @tonyj7973 жыл бұрын

    Get the ZL1 y'all!!! there is no substitute!! I wanted it since it released in 2017 and I got an '18 !! you won't regret it!!

  • @jenkx11
    @jenkx113 жыл бұрын

    I put a Whipple 2.9 on my 2017 SS earlier this year. Love it! Its like a new car.

  • @livinglife3230

    @livinglife3230

    2 жыл бұрын

    How much was that bro & how many hp that you gained?

  • @jamesflores1146
    @jamesflores1146 Жыл бұрын

    Yooo, seriously considered buying a Zl1. This the realest video if seen in comparison of the 2 cars. Decided to stick with SS 1le, Good stuff bro keep at it 💯💯💯

  • @HotRodsAndHouses
    @HotRodsAndHouses3 жыл бұрын

    You have a good point to some of the items. However, the ZL1/LT4 platform is a full forged bottom end. This allows a lot more room without failure. So the price to pull the motor and rework all the internals to compare 🍎 to 🍎 is a big deal. The ZL1/1LE has more differences to be made to really be more different than the base model ZL1 to compare to the SS....a lot more. Keep up the good vids bro.

  • @aninja7628
    @aninja7628 Жыл бұрын

    I put the Eaton SC on my 18SS1LE and yah your speaking real to the masses brother/ it’s beast mode!

  • @claudiucristian5632
    @claudiucristian56323 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2017 2SS Fifty edition just like the one you had, and although trading it in for a ZL1 sounded tempting few months ago.. I love this car so much that I decided to keep it and get most of the ZL1 goodies instead. So I went with full ZL1 suspension and front brakes, LT4 complete fuel system, a new LT4 supercharger (custom powdercoated in Daytona orange to match the car) + the blower kit with upgraded cooling and full bolt-ons. And now this is the absolut perfect camaro for me 🙌🏼. Ps: I was so heart broken when your Fifty got ruined.. but I’m excited for this new build!!

  • @patrickalvillar4602

    @patrickalvillar4602

    3 жыл бұрын

    How much did you end up spending total? I have the same car as you. I was wondering what the total cost to do what you did.

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    3 жыл бұрын

    See this is what I’m referring to. With a little effort, you can make your SS into a BEAST!! Sounds like you’ve done it bro, your build sounds mean! Congrats on the car, those fifty’s always will have a special place in my heart 💪💪

  • @calvinjr6020

    @calvinjr6020

    3 жыл бұрын

    How much it run u bro? I have a 2016 2SS thinking about supercharging it..

  • @claudiucristian5632

    @claudiucristian5632

    3 жыл бұрын

    did the labor myself, so for EVERYTHING mentioned you're looking at $7k without the tune.

  • @claudiucristian5632

    @claudiucristian5632

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@calvinjr6020 $4k for supercharger+kit, around $3k for all other bolt-ons and suspension/cooling/brake upgrades

  • @EventHorizonPrdctns
    @EventHorizonPrdctns Жыл бұрын

    You have a good point about people who just want to go faster, but after that the ZL1 really is a better car especially if you dont want to spend all the time and work doing upgrades to an SS.

  • @a.martin994
    @a.martin99411 ай бұрын

    comes 650hp w blower already, full forged bottom end, magnetic ride suspension, nicer interior, etc etc etc and its book value is way up vs a customized SS will book out for half what you gotta try and resell it for. Bolt on only can add 125 so 775. I have one, love it

  • @MPLaws-en6pi
    @MPLaws-en6pi3 жыл бұрын

    That man is speaking Truth to Power and you save a lot of money

  • @matrox
    @matrox3 жыл бұрын

    Mine is an 17'SS 6 speed. All I need. Daily driver since new. Bad ass car and I have owned 60s muscle.

  • @Mason1le
    @Mason1le3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with this 100%! I got a 1LE planning on supercharging it to have a baby ZL1. As long as you don’t plan on going over 600 hp then it’s the best plan. For BIG power the ZL1 internals help

  • @Tusuperbis

    @Tusuperbis

    3 жыл бұрын

    The lt1 has the forged crank and rods like the lt4. The only thing that needs changed in the lt1 is the pistons.

  • @seannguyen8686

    @seannguyen8686

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Tusuperbis true, i got a 1le slap cam, piston and whipple on, make 840whp fun as hell daily car

  • @dnegel9546

    @dnegel9546

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just don't expect "stock zl1" money when you get rid off it. Honestly don't expect stock ss1le money. I see so many post of ppl trying to sell their modified car for more then a stock one. Not realizing that modding a car 99% of the time reduces the value. Unless it's like a known company like a Hennessey Camaro.

  • @mikehogan5087

    @mikehogan5087

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dnegel9546 that sucks lol

  • @edwardsharp1606
    @edwardsharp16063 жыл бұрын

    You can build your ZL1 without gutting your block if you want 😉 You are right though, I want that LT4 and that nasty front end! Keep up the good work Bruh!

  • @geoh3293
    @geoh32933 жыл бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥 brother way to keep it a buck 🤙🏾

  • @rommel-777
    @rommel-7773 жыл бұрын

    Haha! Yeah brother, those are all valid points. I owned a 17 2SS and traded up to 19 ZL1 and just going from stock to stock, there is no comparison, ZL1 is a beast! The SS however, you could throw that thing around, no big deal. The Z does not lend itself nicely to that. The A10, forged internals and eLSD is also a nice to have 😃 Be safe and God Bless!

  • @gtrance3567

    @gtrance3567

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ss with 1le has elsd. 👍

  • @mstank8716
    @mstank8716 Жыл бұрын

    I like how you're wearing a champion shirt and not flaunting some gucci. Thx for the tip

  • @ranmas2004
    @ranmas20043 жыл бұрын

    ZL1 is sooo much of a better platform than the SS. If you going auto the SS 10spd is NOT the as the 10spd in the ZL1. ZL1 has stronger engine internals and a stronger auto trans. Cant just slap a SC kit on an SS and call it a ZL1. Need fuel pumps, exhaust, etc... Limited to 600-650whp without building engine. ZL1 can make 900whp on the stovk block AND the trans can handle it.

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    3 жыл бұрын

    While I agree with most of what you said, everything you just listed can be had in an SS for cheaper minus the 10L90. But a built a8 can often match performance and still be cheaper. With a little effort and less $$ an SS can easily match a ZL1 at any performance level. That doesn’t mean it takes anything away from what the Z is lol And I definitely never called an SS a ZL1 LOL

  • @ranmas2004

    @ranmas2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZtZoomin true true.......love your content man.

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ranmas2004 ty bro

  • @ranmas2004

    @ranmas2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Boosted V8 dont know where u get that ZL1 cant handle 750 at. 10 speed on ZL1 has no issues once retuned from factory. Yes you need cooling mods for OEM blower if you spinning the hell out of it. Again.....ZL1 better of a platform.

  • @ranmas2004

    @ranmas2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Boosted V8 your opinion is just that...your opinion. Agree to disagree.

  • @ronnymelton879
    @ronnymelton8793 жыл бұрын

    Just subscribed, I been looking for a camaro channel because I'm getting a ss 1le in about a year and a half and I'm going to pro charge it

  • @rdgsupafli
    @rdgsupafli2 жыл бұрын

    So I just picked up a 17 ss and I want to do a turbocharger but it seems more expensive than a supercharger? Which do you like more anyways? Also in Cali I would want a carb legal kit and daily driven.

  • @AceGreene
    @AceGreene3 жыл бұрын

    I feel you, but I NEEDS that 2022 ZL1.

  • @DGCExotics
    @DGCExotics2 жыл бұрын

    Nah, let’s all be honest all Camaros are just INSANE 🔥

  • @robertm2172
    @robertm21722 жыл бұрын

    I hear ya bro my 2016 has been running Edelbrock supercharges since new from the 2300 and now the 2650 the last 3 years

  • @ml9465
    @ml94653 жыл бұрын

    I got a 2021 camaro ZL1 1LE and I am about to do a serious upgrade to mine. I not sure if I want to upgrade it to 850 or 1,000 horsepower. Also it's getting a serious Vinyl Wrap job done to it also plus a ceramic coating over the top of the vinyl wrap. I wanted the New corvette, but I wasn't gone to wait a year and a half to get one built. So I bought the ZL1.

  • @JCunningham21
    @JCunningham21 Жыл бұрын

    I did everything but supercharge my 17 2SS M6 and had more into it then a new ZL1. I did all the labor. GM ZL1 wheels, brakes, fuel pump, side skirts front spoiler, E85, and American Racing Full exhaust w/ swain tech coated headers. The SS 1LE literally was announced the day after i bought my SS.

  • @abilesimo1
    @abilesimo13 ай бұрын

    Yeah but are the regular SS’s internals, axles, drive shaft, etc ok to handle the supercharger?

  • @al151
    @al1512 жыл бұрын

    I m thinking about getting a TVS2650R or upcoming version for my 2022 2ss 1le. I would like to upgrade to forged internals and the fuel system as well. 7 psi reliable boost close to 600 whp.

  • @josepineda9740
    @josepineda97403 жыл бұрын

    So you can daily drive a S/c , whippled ss ,?? I have. 2020 ss , looking to trade back in for a zl1 , everyone says u can daily it on low boost 7-8 psi , but I drive like crazy ass lol , but to build the engine and all that with kit like 10-15k?

  • @chriswalker5310
    @chriswalker53103 жыл бұрын

    I am looking to do 21 ss 1le with mid mount turbo set up from vengeance racing. I am still debating on the zl1 vs ss as well. However I like the idea off the ss because it is a more adorable starting point. To do a stage 4 package with vengeance is around 30k. Now that’s a lot of money to throw into a new car but if you pick up an ss 1le for low 40s high 30s now we are talking around 70k for an ss to make around 850whp for the price of a new zl1. I just want to do something different that I can’t find other people doing so doing a ss 1le twin turbo with a built motor I think would be cool and different. You definitely can’t beat the look of a zl1 or starting point though there either

  • @andrehughes8882
    @andrehughes88822 жыл бұрын

    You should have a million subs

  • @jbizzle7680
    @jbizzle76802 жыл бұрын

    alright looks like i found a good comment section lol. so i just got a 2014 SS i was thinking about a whipple charger and a good exhaust that pops when downshifting with paddles. any help?? pros and cons, anything.

  • @adriandunham6425
    @adriandunham6425 Жыл бұрын

    I have a SS I don’t even know what supercharger or all I need to get . How much is a supercharger if you can help Me ?

  • @gtrance3567
    @gtrance3567 Жыл бұрын

    I am heard the front seals on the LT 1 can get blown out with boost, is that true? Thank you.

  • @tugrasarchive
    @tugrasarchive2 жыл бұрын

    why should the modded ss be faster than original zl1?

  • @BrandonNews001
    @BrandonNews0012 жыл бұрын

    This also goes with other finances👌.

  • @TBSSPILOTviews
    @TBSSPILOTviews2 жыл бұрын

    I’m with ya 100% bro, and it made sense to me too. Whippled my 18’ SS1LE. Touched up the tune and it dyno’d at 570 rwhp. All was cool for about 6,000 miles….one day pop. Front crank seal. Switched to a vented catch can. A month later cruising to get my Alky Control set up & tune. Pulled into gas station…smelled oil, and guess what? Front seal AGAIN! Now you are wondering, land ring, or piston issue? It’s all over the net. So yanked engine, did forged assembly, heads done, ARP head and main bolts, LT4 hi-side & injectors, completed rebuild & balanced. 500 miles later the new LS7 lifters had a failure. ( lots of notations on them too) Okay, so did Johnson lifters (should have done it the first time) 🥴 a BTR Stage 2 cam, pushrods, springs. ( done with the GM stuff) SPEC 2 clutch & flywheel…91 tune @ 634.9 rwhp. If I had bought a ZL1 from the get…I would have had a forged motor, and just had to pulley up and retune for a power level that would certainly break the LT1. Maybe I had some funky luck, but after the issues started making themselves known, others I found out got the same issues. So BE ADVISED GUYS. Stock ring gaps are real tight on LT1, paper thin front crank seal (use the LS3) and piston & ring issues are gonna show up more sooner than later. I love my ride now, and it is better than the stock ZL1, and definitely more durable, and prepped and clearanced for high boost should I choose. I’m at 9.5psi on 91 tune with decent power. I can nail it now without …uh oh, what now?? I would say go with a procharger, as the roots and twin screw PD blowers yield a high low end torque hit to the drive train, and it runs very close to what stock LT1 was designed to support….again, rods, pistons, detonation, clutch reliability issues are lurking. You may get away with it, but the LT4 is a much better platform for street roddin’. If you plunked down or are willing to put up over 7g for a blower set up…put some back up aside, cause you will need it! 🤓🤙🏽

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who tuned it?

  • @TBSSPILOTviews

    @TBSSPILOTviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZtZoomin built by Duttweiller, and tuned by New Era…Alex has lots of these Gen 6’s and knows his stuff!

  • @contro7580
    @contro75802 жыл бұрын

    After MOASS ima just copp a ZL1 huge upgrade from the Mazda

  • @22_Oriole_2ss
    @22_Oriole_2ss Жыл бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥 vid fam 🦾🦾🧡🖤🧡🖤

  • @181le6
    @181le6 Жыл бұрын

    My 2018 SS 1LE is probably gonna be getting a tvs 2650, and other supporting mods, but not before it gets a drop in piston and rod package. Don't want to be limited to like 9psi.

  • @mr.eastcoastgrow6132
    @mr.eastcoastgrow61322 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2017 Fifty edition and am looking to buy a supercharger. Looking at a Magnuson or procharger. It's my daily driver I don't race it or drag it. I want somthing reliable and won't hurt the car. Any reccomendations?

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only two. 1. Find a *good* and *experienced* tuner. Reliability and safety will all come from tune. 2. Decide how you want your power delivered. That will help you decide brand, they’re all good quality. Fueling will limit you far before any of the sc’s are maxed out

  • @terrysmith7229
    @terrysmith72292 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking of trading in my ss1le for zl1 but now supercharger sounds like the way to go.

  • @Seba_305
    @Seba_305 Жыл бұрын

    but why did you trade in your ss full tuned out for a zl1??

  • @prattspits
    @prattspits3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing I have the SS 1LE, the only thing is with the ZL1 is I can pass smog where as modding my 1LE I would not, I don't think any way , not really sure.

  • @ImDatdudeKG
    @ImDatdudeKG3 жыл бұрын

    I think it depends on what you’re looking for. If you want the big hp numbers 700+ than you need the zl1. But a supercharged SS will be fast and fun for way less. So ZT are you selling you zl1 in the future and supercharging another SS?

  • @brandonguarrasi

    @brandonguarrasi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Come he says ! 😃😂 this clown as commented on everything on this video , yet has no videos of his own backing what he drives . Or .... wants to drive . Wait maybe he’s to busy building a super fast Tesla killer SS

  • @CalebLadd
    @CalebLadd Жыл бұрын

    So I built a 2016 SS with a D1 procharger. You’re safe until about 650 wheel. If you want more then that, I’d say ZL1 is the way to go. That being said I now have a 2019 ZL1 1LE. The ZL1 1LE is just in a league of its own compared to the rest of the camaro due to the suspension and aerodynamics extremes. Literally never breaks loose and holds every turn I’ve ever taken. Something I couldn’t do in my SS. Just my experience but overall if you want over 650, I’d go with ZL1.

  • @noahdunaway
    @noahdunaway Жыл бұрын

    Why did you not use orange wrap, just curious.

  • @oldschool6268
    @oldschool62682 жыл бұрын

    It's all fun ! But it's like a 600cc bike vs 750 vs 1000 vs a hayabusa, ZX14R, or H2 the bigger platform is always better for more power, and less mods, but if you want to mod, why mod less when more is always better ?

  • @clamberg
    @clamberg2 жыл бұрын

    What else do you need to get to add a super charger? Is there anything else that needs to be changed?

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wideband and a good tune/tuner. To take full advantage of your supercharger, I would highly recommend the LT4 fuel system

  • @johnbobbitt8432
    @johnbobbitt84322 жыл бұрын

    Facts.

  • @Tusuperbis
    @Tusuperbis3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2020 1SS 1LE and it has the Alcantara wheel, shifter, and Recaro seats. I wonder does the zl1 have the manual transmission and rear end cooler though like my 1SS 1LE? Maybe the zl1 1LE does though?

  • @zae_bo

    @zae_bo

    3 жыл бұрын

    ZL1 has everything the SS 1LE has plus forged internals(I believe) and a supercharger. The ZL1 1LE adds even more than that, aero/wider wheels/etc.

  • @19gkk1le5
    @19gkk1le53 жыл бұрын

    Ss 1le with a blower over zl1? Lmk

  • @LevelUpSimRacing
    @LevelUpSimRacing2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the ss stock pistons weak and not like boost tho?

  • @Zan0_oX
    @Zan0_oX3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sticking with my SS!❤

  • @bricklayerlzdp9825

    @bricklayerlzdp9825

    3 жыл бұрын

    I prefer n/a it just hits different

  • @jayczyzyk9707
    @jayczyzyk97073 жыл бұрын

    doesnt the zl1 have forged piston sad rods?

  • @bradturner3361
    @bradturner336110 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately you cannot SC your SS cheaper than buying a ZL1. Not anymore at least. Todays ss SC Magnuson fully installed is $20k. If this is the route you want to go buy the zl1. I’ve done the research. Unless you install your self then you save about $5k.

  • @Tusuperbis
    @Tusuperbis3 жыл бұрын

    Also the roots type manifold superchargers are notorious for heat soak. I'm gonna go with a procharger on my 1SS 1LE. I like the centrifugal type blowers better anyway.

  • @levelup3426

    @levelup3426

    Жыл бұрын

    Centrifuge blower seems like the new way of getting great results. Im also going Centrifuge route. First doing internals upgrade then adding the centrifuge supercharger.

  • @cody7068

    @cody7068

    10 ай бұрын

    No massive heat soak on my Zl1. Stock blower making around 900 wheel. But I’m running methanol and my cooling is super over kill with the Meth.

  • @Tusuperbis

    @Tusuperbis

    10 ай бұрын

    @@cody7068 sounds awesome! Do you race at a track on track days? Just about all of the roots type blower cars get hot after a few laps. I'm talking a track day at a circuit like, Road America, Mid-Ohio, etc?

  • @cody7068

    @cody7068

    10 ай бұрын

    @@Tusuperbis Unfortunately I live in a state where I don’t have access to any tracks, just drag strips. But I mostly street race with it, and also occasionally taken to the Drag strip, I don’t race on highways or where anybody can get injured by the way, I live in a small town and we have some concrete roads that are vacant and are used for Digs and roll racing, very safe and no chance for anybody to get hurt. But I would absolutely love to get it on a real track and use it for what it was built for. Drag racing is fun, but racing on a real race truck with turns is real racing to me. I’ll get my chance someday!!

  • @Tusuperbis

    @Tusuperbis

    10 ай бұрын

    @@cody7068 i agree 100%! Closest track day for me is Mid Ohio. I was there years ago in some corvettes I had and it was a blast! 2 dragstrips within an hour of me and ive been multiple times over the years.

  • @DanteZL1
    @DanteZL13 жыл бұрын

    Zl1 can handle more power stock and the ss I feel like I would have to buy more parts to make it similar. Idk I would get a zl1 anyways

  • @mjc3502

    @mjc3502

    3 жыл бұрын

    My zl1 has almost 800 to the tire and im going back for more.

  • @SMD-si7fm

    @SMD-si7fm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Boosted V8 cringe

  • @pali1H
    @pali1H3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate this. I was considering trading in my Fifty for one but with the price of all used cars going way up, it doesn't seem worth it. Definitely gonna go with procharger. I will say though, it's easy to mod the LT4 into a beast.

  • @Sub4CarClips
    @Sub4CarClips2 жыл бұрын

    Yes the zl1 has better internals but why not just upgrade the ss internals which would be cheaper. Btw I’m talking used ss

  • @darenjones4721
    @darenjones47213 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, Off Topic. I just found the 2 rubber pieces that go in the cup holders. Check under the rubber piece in the console. I know u ordered them, Just saying.

  • @unreal1714
    @unreal17143 жыл бұрын

    Your point in this video is money. LT4 is so easy to mod and can take on more upgrades without having heat issues. If you want to save money and its not that much because getting a pro charger, new bumper, ACS composite kits to look like a ZL1, you are going to save maybe 10k. And 10k is nothing because you save yourself all the trouble of doing all the tuning, hiring someone to do it, etc. ZL1 all the way baby!

  • @texasgogetter04
    @texasgogetter04Ай бұрын

    he has some points but if you get a used SS you’ll have way more wiggle room to upgrade the engine internals for that supercharger. and still come out cheaper than buying a brand new SS

  • @jayr122001
    @jayr1220013 жыл бұрын

    Exactly 💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @MarMPB
    @MarMPB6 ай бұрын

    I pretty much agree. The only thing against it is that probably the ZL1 will hold the value much better than a modded SS!

  • @barfy-man3628
    @barfy-man3628 Жыл бұрын

    It’s the little details that matter. Go Zl1.

  • @arthurleon350
    @arthurleon3502 жыл бұрын

    The hood do be looking nice though on the Zl1

  • @hellotheregeneralkenobi3976
    @hellotheregeneralkenobi39763 жыл бұрын

    What about the 11 heat exchangers though??

  • @MikeDirth

    @MikeDirth

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are on the SS1LE

  • @Kennetheser
    @Kennetheser3 жыл бұрын

    You can get the recaro seats on the 2ss same one in the 1le

  • @jeffreybastos7620

    @jeffreybastos7620

    2 жыл бұрын

    He literally said that.

  • @mont7481
    @mont74812 жыл бұрын

    Got rid of my 2019 SS and bought a 2021 ZL1. Better engine and suspension platform as well as interior, plus didn't sacrifice the warranty. Very happy with that decision. Had it for 7 months and ready for serious upgrades. Negotiated with insurance company to cover the $25k in upgrades. RPM is doing the work

  • @ImTyler

    @ImTyler

    2 жыл бұрын

    How you get the insurance company to cover 25k in upgrades👀

  • @mont7481

    @mont7481

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ImTyler Allstate agreed to it. Just a question and request, they did the paperwork and I pay the premium

  • @jeffreybastos7620

    @jeffreybastos7620

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can add mods to any car insurance, just need to call and request it. I had progressive and they let me add mod protection

  • @alexander_3923

    @alexander_3923

    5 ай бұрын

    Isnt the lt1 and lt4 the similar engines in terms of design?

  • @sparkalanio
    @sparkalanio2 жыл бұрын

    Then after you boost it and bang on it... pistons say bye bye

  • @RT-uj9pv
    @RT-uj9pv3 жыл бұрын

    Bought a 2020 1LE best bang for the buck.

  • @dannyh5700

    @dannyh5700

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice car man, I got 1 too

  • @BelleChasseHome
    @BelleChasseHome Жыл бұрын

    your video states the 1LE does not have alcantara rears or door panels. Good video but please clarify. My 2019 ZL1/1LE has alcantara throughout. Any Camaro is a great car due to the high quality engine that at any level can be upgraded or just left alone...to each is...

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure I was referring to SS 1LE. Good comment but listen a little closer.

  • @timsmith3969
    @timsmith3969Ай бұрын

    yea supercharging a high compression car sounds like a great idea to me. Good long term strategy. So your max effort build will be a drivers race against a stock zl1. Just pulley and e85 the zl1 and you'll get smoke. Or keep the zl1 stock under full warranty versus your voided warranty max build. If you've been in the game long enough you know when you build it's not if it breaks it's when.

  • @SDGlock23
    @SDGlock23 Жыл бұрын

    I think it depends, truth is I love my '17 SS and I don't need more car but I love the looks of the ZL1. I can do full bolt on with heads, cam, etc. for approx $15K. Problem is, once you mod a car, value drops and you won't get your money back. A ZL1 gives you more performance and you don't have to do anything to it, of course you can mod a zl1 but for those wanting more but also not wanting to modify the car, the zl1 makes more sense...assuming you really "need" more than an SS...which most don't.

  • @anthonywallace3382
    @anthonywallace33823 жыл бұрын

    I got a 2021 1le for 50k ,just get a used zle for around the same price if you feel that way , either way you gonna void the warranty but at least the zl1 was made too be supercharged and will be more reliable.

  • @Travisisaac55
    @Travisisaac552 жыл бұрын

    What about swapping a lt4 into an ss...maybe one day someone will do it, especially a 5th gen that would be insane

  • @matthewburkholder1076
    @matthewburkholder1076 Жыл бұрын

    I'm sure that the insurance is cheaper too so that would be another reason

  • @sniperlif3
    @sniperlif32 жыл бұрын

    My SS is at 500 wheel hp without a cam or supercharger. Very easy to beat the ZL1 for much cheaper. I do wish I spent the money on the mag ride suspension. Heard good things about it, but I was struggling to find any left and stock on cars and prices were raising so bad.

  • @itsstyles493

    @itsstyles493

    2 жыл бұрын

    A stock zl1 maybe

  • @alexsalgado5205

    @alexsalgado5205

    Жыл бұрын

    How u get it to 500 hp

  • @cody7068

    @cody7068

    10 ай бұрын

    Cheaper if you get a brand new Zl1 maybe. Bought my 19 Zl1 for 64k. I’m around 13k into it and making over 900Whp and and with a best of 8.92 in the 1/4. I too was contemplated on SS or Zl1. Than I realized that if I got a SS I would always be comparing my SS to the Zl1. Think I made the most reasonable decision I could’ve made. And I’m running WAY faster times for the money than if I bought a new 2SS 1LE (which is what I was looking at).

  • @BelleChasseHome
    @BelleChasseHome Жыл бұрын

    As an ower of a 2019 ZL1/1LE, it is not my daily driver. I would not recommend it as one either unless you love a very solid ride. Its my weekend, only if its a perfect day car, that sits in storage as a low mile investment car. My city just repaved all the roads, so its nice and smooth...just remember its a track car and most people that consider getting one need daily driving STREET cars. Good luck and many blessing...

  • @snapperhead1355
    @snapperhead13553 жыл бұрын

    It's all about the ZL1 badge

  • @ms3ben
    @ms3ben3 жыл бұрын

    I had a 19’ zl1 a10. On paper it’s quick but it felt disappointingly slow to me stock tbh I didn’t like the car enough to mod it and sold it after 3 months.

  • @livinglife3230

    @livinglife3230

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really that’s interesting. What did you get afterwards? I’ve got a ‘18SS m6 now & only thing that interest me is a krypton green zl1 OR the new c8

  • @ms3ben

    @ms3ben

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@livinglife3230 I had a 2016 Camaro SS before as well. Even though the ZL1 is clearly faster than the SS, it doesn't "feel" much faster" imo (with the A10) sotp. Test drive to see for yourself...If you don't mind the claustrophobic Camaro interior, the ZL1 is a great platform for to build from. It puts the power down well, handles beautifully and doesn't take many mods to go fast. If you don't care about 1/4 mile times, I'd go manual for a much more involved and fun experience.

  • @tugrasarchive
    @tugrasarchive2 жыл бұрын

    3:20 no the suspension from the zl1 1le is much stiffer and not good for all day driving than the zl1

  • @todddavis240
    @todddavis2403 жыл бұрын

    Agree, I wasn't sure what I was buying last year and the dealership didn't know what it was selling LOL Lucky me! I got a 5th Gen SS 1LE with 36K for under 23K Lol I was thinking what you're suggesting already. Why spend 60K on a ZL1? To get to ridiculous ZL1 money I can build a monster adding just $15K to this 1LE Lol and I'm still under 40K. And back in 2014 they had 2SS with full leather interior and alcantara wheel and shifter anyway. Love mine too

  • @jdchav9383
    @jdchav93833 жыл бұрын

    I don’t own a Cam but this was highly informative. Sounds like the ZL1 could be out together (with a better blower) from a lower level trim model.

  • @brandonguarrasi
    @brandonguarrasi3 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys I got an idea , but whatever you can afford with out it being your only car ( clowns ) smile that you have a car and keep on keeping on

  • @mjo3275
    @mjo3275 Жыл бұрын

    When I bought my 2017 Camaro 2SS brand new in 17’ I paid $42,000, sticker price was $50,000. I had the option to get a ZL1 for $55,000 brand new. A supercharger with install is $10k. It makes absolutely no sense to do that haha. The stock LT1 is at its limits with that. You’ll need forged internals to support more power and at that price your over what a Zl1 costs. Not to mention you’ll have to upgrade the wheels to support the power. Just get a ZL1. This only makes sense if you get some cheap high mileage SS for $30,000 or something.

  • @otfzay5056
    @otfzay50562 жыл бұрын

    When people say dont buy the car but they got it.. so y u didnt keep the ss

  • @ZtZoomin

    @ZtZoomin

    2 жыл бұрын

    I be dead when people delete their comments.. the answer to that question is on the channel

  • @Dyriknz
    @Dyriknz2 жыл бұрын

    I got mine over the ss, premium model ZL1 . Holds better resale value . Does look more aggressive . But I completely built mine anyways.

  • @cody7068

    @cody7068

    10 ай бұрын

    Same, 19 Zl1 with around 13k into it and making north of 900whp running high 8s in the 1/4. I don’t regret my decision at all. Rather have a Zl1 than an SS because I would have always compared my SS to the Z.

  • @danieliwuala9000
    @danieliwuala90002 жыл бұрын

    I still want a ZL1.

  • @levelup3426
    @levelup34262 жыл бұрын

    He’s saying the truth, if you want a ZL1 but don't want to drop the extra $$, Get an SS 1LE, I have a 2SS 1LE an it’s practically a ZL1 (interior wise mainly), without the supercharger and the slightly wider fender flares. Like ZT ZOOMING said, their are a small couple additions you can achieve by modding your SS and you'll have ZL1 power. Not to mention, the 2020 SS and up face look great. You won't go wrong with either one.

  • @stevenstatham2864
    @stevenstatham28642 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what i wanna do.

  • @bondjames652
    @bondjames6523 жыл бұрын

    Most people calculate the price difference from a SS to a Zl1. I think they forget that GM takes the SS engine as trade in. Way too expensive.

  • @blodpudding77
    @blodpudding77 Жыл бұрын

    Illegal in sweden to put on a supercharger if not fitted original. Probably same in many countries and states. That is why you should get zl1 and fit another supercharger.

  • @chrisoconnor3119
    @chrisoconnor31193 жыл бұрын

    Warranty?

  • @BikesAndSquids
    @BikesAndSquids3 жыл бұрын

    I understand your comparison brother but for being a zl1 owner for almost 3 years now. I saw both what they can do with mods and style difference. a true SS will forever be a true SS and a true ZL1 will never have the same concepts that can be shared even though they are the same platform. plus transforming an SS to a zl1 is just... COME ON MAN BE PROUD OF YOUR SS

  • @AceGreene
    @AceGreene3 жыл бұрын

    Lol damn, but in the other video you said to sell the SS and upgrade to the ZL1! 😅😎

  • @AceGreene

    @AceGreene

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@camirocz I was just giving him a hard time. Relax.

  • @tugrasarchive
    @tugrasarchive2 жыл бұрын

    1le has no back camera for parkering

  • @DTClay
    @DTClay2 жыл бұрын

    Camaro my dream that’s what I want my 1st car on the channel 😭😭

  • @somnos13
    @somnos133 жыл бұрын

    ..........almost is not a ZL1. But go ahead hommie and get yours!

  • @xaviergarno7589
    @xaviergarno75892 жыл бұрын

    What are you talking about? People love the Zl1 for its transmission just as much as the engine. That 10 speed auto is faster to shift than a Zo6 auto.

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