I've had my 2019 STI Limited for almost 4 years now. Car was good off the lot but adding Fortune Auto 500 coil-overs, 18" Titan7 Forged Wheels reduced weight and made it great. Car feels quicker, drives smoother and is more enjoyable to drive now. I also added an IAG AOS and the cylinder 4 cooling mod for some added reliability and a strut tower brace to stiffen the front. I won't go any further with mods for now. The STI is the only car I know that comes with 6 piston Brembo brakes in the front and 4 piston in the back, has hydraulic steering, 3 LSD's and AWD. It's a one of a kind car and cars like this aren't coming back so if you always wanted one, you might want to get one now. The STI is more of a weekend fun car for me and I just hit 17k miles. Unless I need extra money, I don't see a time when I would sell it.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. That’s why I picked up my 21’ bc I knew they weren’t going to make them like this anymore. This one is going into my long term collection and I have no intention of ever selling it. Completely stock for now and I’m definitely enjoying it after a full year and 10k miles

@Rubenen

Жыл бұрын

I wana do the exact same thing with it, but bit more mods. just a fun weekend car with low mileage that hopefully will last me a lifetime.

@boostedrex9460

6 ай бұрын

Wow your barley even driving that car no wonder it's going to last bud.... I put 60,000 miles in almost 3 years....

Thank you for this well informed video, currently have a Lexus sc300 and it’s a good cruiser just not a fun car to take on any fun roads for its not intended for that kinda use. Reading your feed backs about the Sti answered all the questions I had about reliability issues and how the style of driving I wanna do wouldn’t effect the car. I simple want a car that’s fun rides nice and feels sporty and a car that’s quick but nothing to crazy and not a car I intend to be racing with. this year I hope to be in one ☝️

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Good luck! It is an amazing car - I've owned and driven a lot of different cars and the STI is one that I will likely always keep in my garage. 15 months later with 15k miles on her now and she is running better than ever and has been rock solid.

Just got my 2020 STi subaru certified for 40k plus ttl. Best part is my interest rate at wholesale from subaru/ chase. Im outside Chicago so 40k is very normal. Love my dream car at 43years old. 19 year wait is over.

@steveswiat

11 ай бұрын

Very nice! How many miles? I am thinking about listing mine for sale.

@10thFTW

11 ай бұрын

@steveswiat 22k. Low for 3 yrs old. I'd try selling online quote from carmax. Then they inspect it when u go in and get paid. They're paying the most right now I believe. Private party is tough, u will get less and financing third party is a headache, plus private buying rates are high rn. Unless u get lucky n find someone that'll pay cash. But car better b perfect lol

Great advice. I'm in basically the exact same situation you were when you were shopping for one and it'll be my first big car purchase. Did you have any luck negotiating the price down and if so is there a number I should try to get under the asking price?

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

I bought mine at MSRP since it was new which at the time seemed like a good deal considering the market. These cars have taken about a 8-10% hit over the past 4 months as most of the vehicles are starting to come down in price and will continue to do so. I’d look for a fair deal and definitely not pay any mark up or add to these scum bag dealers. More and more cars on the market now. If you can be patient you’ll be able to find the right car. Good luck!

Well they’re also the last ones with an EJ motor and there hasn’t been any news about a new STI. They won’t come down too much. They did try to sell me all that extra stuff when I bought my 2020 STI.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they have dropped about 8-10% since I made this video. It is not just as simple as the fact they don’t make STIs anymore. Supply and demand is a much greater factor and there is an increasing amount t of inventory of all used cars, a recession and record high interest rates and inflation which has led to a dried up pool of buyers. I expect the prices to decline at a normal decoration curve for the foreseeable future It’s interesting this topic seems to get some people worked up (not suggesting you are) but so many people have been deluded into thinking average cars are an investment for them but in reality they will definitely continue losing value just like 99% of other vehicles. Sounds like you got a good deal and didn’t pay any extra stuff. Great!

I got my brand new 21 last May. 43k drive out price with extended warranty. Dealer got window tint install and some kind paint protection. However, I did ceramic coating later on. Now I can trade or sell with same price I purchased😂

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

The car market is pretty crazy for sure. Glad you got yours for a solid price!

@XeroDash0

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you over paid lmao

@yizhouwang7904

Жыл бұрын

@@XeroDash0 no I didn’t, tax plus extended warranty and GAP, right about 43k. The msrp for it is 39k

@boostedrex9460

6 ай бұрын

​@yizhouwang7904 window tint And paint protection okay buddy . You got fucked would love to sell you a car

The only thing i would disagree with is the private party sale. Go with certified pre owned, meaning sold by subaru. They will only buy fully stock models and and will have 152 point inspection including a 100k mile powertrain warranty. Private parties only sell these cars when they know they have juiced it to its limits.

@steveswiat

Ай бұрын

Not bad advice, but not sure I would agree 100% I would sell mine private party since its the perfect car for the right bueyr. It is no exaggeration one of the cleanest STIs in the country, full service records every 2500 miles, bone stock, all OEM equipment, PPF/ tint. Dealer isn't going to give me what I can sell for on private sale.

STI is one of the best cars out there that hold their value. I had a 2015 STI i got new back in 2015 for $36k, i traded it in for an RS3 in 2020 and the dealer gave me $32k trade in equity for it and tbey sold it for $35k a few days later. The car literally lost $1k in value over 5 years.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they are certainly better than other cars. The point of this video is not to get ripped off buying your STI. I am happy that my car is worth high 30s low 40s if sold privately. Not bad but they will still continue to lose value.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Another important thing to know that most people miss is $35k in 2015 is not close to same purchasing power as $35k in 2023. So it may not feel like you technically lost money you did lose a lot of purchasing power.

@ttis3701

Жыл бұрын

@Steve Swiat I beg to differ... $32k in equity for a 5 year old car in 2020 was a lot of purchase power, even now in 2023 with inflation. Cheers bud 👍 not sure why you are trying to start an argument, I was merely supporting the fact that the STI is a great investment.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

@@ttis3701 I appreciate your engagement but I’ve had multiple people seem to be upset by the fact that their car will continue to lose value. This is based on a few comments and downvotes it’s gotten. I am simply pointing out not to get ripped off buying one with markups etc. This video is less relevant now then compared to when I made it because the market has cooled off substantially and dealers have much less leverage as we enter into a slower economy.

@ttis3701

Жыл бұрын

@Steve Swiat Well I'm definitely siding with you, STI is a great investment and it's an incredible car that is often overlooked. A lot of the jokes and negative comments stem from Subarus past, none of which can be validated on newer gens. It's a fantastic car, holds its value very well.

Bought mine for 2000 less msrp with 19k km on it. I also traded my wrx for it. Overall i’m happy with my fully loaded 2020 sti!

@steveswiat

11 ай бұрын

Awesome!

3:32 preach it brotha 😂🤝🏻

A great video brother. Everything you Said is all true 👍. I love my 2020 STI and I'm never selling it. A great fun car. Thank you for the brake information as well.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Appreciate you watching on commenting on the videos. I will get some new videos up here soon :) Glad the brake info was helpful and love that you are enjoying your car brother

I could afford a WRX premium. The WRX sti cars are to expensive in Sydney it going for like $68K

I'm in Ontario Canada and bought my 2021 new for $42,000 canadian before tax, fast forward to today there's a dealer asking $65,900 cad for a USED '21 STi! Bloody crooks!!!!

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Crazy right! Glad you got yours at a reasonable price. Thanks for the comment

@ejayasaula

Жыл бұрын

got mine too 21 WRX for $41k CAD crazy market.

They are raising prices because they stopped making the STi. Discontinued. That's why prices are high. No inventory for new models.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Nah the prices have already started coming down now, they have dropped close to 8% YOY. They went up because of the car bubble over the past 2 years but now that is changing and they will continue to decline in value. I do think a clean, low mileage, stock STI will always attract a premium price though

@mikester24622

Жыл бұрын

I’m buying a stock sti base model. 2021. Only 500 miles. It’s amazing. They knocked off 8k!! from their original asking price, but it’s still overpriced. I will not find such a low mileage sti like this ever again. So, I’m doing it and very excited. Never wanted a car this badly.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

@@mikester24622 Congrats on the purchase! It is a great car and really enjoyable to drive.

@mikester24622

Жыл бұрын

@@steveswiat Thanks! I am particularly excited about the sti short throw shifter. It was so fun to use when I took it for a test drive. I can’t get over how short the throws are. Much shorter than I ever expected.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

@@mikester24622 ya the short throw is really nice. The entire experience of this car is something special and is not easily found in other modern cars.

Had a brand new 2019 STi I bought in November 2019. Some scum stole it in March 2023 so I bought a 2021 STi with 10,000kms on it. Hard to drive anything else once you're used to them.

Should I sell my 2000 civic with 49k miles b18c1 turbo 600hp for a sti? What you guys think

@steveswiat

Ай бұрын

Depends bro. For a stock STI? Totally different car vs a 600hp Civic. Depend on your goals, driving style and how you plan to use the car

@survival2324

Ай бұрын

@@steveswiat I guess depends if they pay the price for this gem. A civic Si is really hard to get. Mine is like new condition. I’m not into racing, but with the right offer I could do the sti

@steveswiat

Ай бұрын

My answer is do both lol. A retro Honda with 600whp is sick AF. STIs are also cool.

With some recent opportunities in my life, I've been looking to trade in my daily driver. I'm very grateful that my economy SUV has taken care of me, but with the direction of the automotive industry going towards "electric cars," I can honestly say I'm upset. I want to get into something that's engaging to drive and the GR Corolla originally had my attention. AWD, manual, and hatchback? Exactly what I'm looking for. However, the local dealer near me has the base trim (which starts at 37,000) USED, asking for FIFTY THOUSAND. And it seems that the Circuit (the trim I want) isn't even available in my area. After some thought, I was looking at the new WRX but I'm not fond of the styling. Then it was suggested to me to look into the STI. Decent examples that havent been modified mechanically are going for around 40 to 46 in my area. Some other examples that have reported to be in an accident are going for high 30's but there's no way I'm buying a car that's been in an accident. I suppose I'll just wait. But it is one of my dreams to be able to row through gears and just feel the exhilaration and thrill from a proper sports car.

@calebmar

Жыл бұрын

I highly suggest you look more into the new 2022/2023 Subaru WRX I just ordered one and it looks really promising other than the cladding but you can buy pieces that are colour matched (not from Subaru ofc)

@borronachoproductions6865

Жыл бұрын

@Calebmar Congratulations! I hope it arrives soon for you, haha. Will you update me on what it's like to own one in the future? You know, I have seen that you can buy paint matched cladding/trim pieces and also there is an STI style wing that you can put on there too. But there is something I heard about the new WRX generation engines where people have been finding RTV gasket sealant in their oil/oil pan? I also remember searching for the 2018-2021 STI's and they also had a recall for the reverse light malfunctioning because water may get into the wires and corrode them and prevent them from working? It also reminds me of the 2012-2017 Subaru WRX engine recall lawsuit where people would have engine failure from the metal pieces cycling in their oil too. All these recalls and problems are steering me away from Subaru. I think I might just wait in the GR Corolla since they're continuing production into 2024. It'll give me some time to stack more chips and hopefully have a better chance of getting the Circuit Edition.

2021 with 4000 miles ask for 44k, is this right price?

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Seems decent if the condition is mint and it has Recaro seats

@You-All-Pokai

Жыл бұрын

@@steveswiat mint and decent buy the original MSRP in 2021 is about 41k but now is 3k more!

That's payment packing. That dealer didn't "have to" do any of that

@steveswiat

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, for those financially uneducated who only focus on payment. The prices on STIs have dropped like a rock since I made this video. Still have mine and loving it

You're supposed to tell them you don't want that stuff and they can sell it to you without that stuff. Unless you want it, it's your money.

@steveswiat

5 ай бұрын

Now you might be able to do that but during peak car market frenzy it didn't work that way in my experience

Hey Tristan! Don't buy that Subaru! Tristan, don't buy that Subaru! That Subaru is a bad idea!

Add $10k minimum to the sale price of every STI because you're going to pay for at least one motor replacement. And if you build, that figure is more like minimum $20k, just in parts. Its slow AF stock (240whp, 3500lbs) and the STI is very expensive to try to make real power. At the end of the day the STI is a car that you have to buy twice. First you buy the car, then you spend the same amount to buy the mods and repairs. Once you go through all that you have a decent car, but its still not nearly as nice as the brand new loaded M3 you could have bought with the same money.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Ya you are right it is not fast. Still a fun car to drive around as a daily. I don’t have any intention of modifying it and cost is not a concern for me tbh. I would not expect an STI with M3 performance to be very enjoyable for what I do with the car and the reliability would likely suffer. My goal is to strictly pound miles on the car for fun driving to cool places. Thanks for the comment!

@dumpjeep

Жыл бұрын

@@steveswiat the only real reliability problem is the rod bearings. The clearances are too tight which causes them to overheat during sustained high RPM loads (5th gear pulls). This bearing damage will occur regardless of power levels since it is not related to power levels, but rather by engine speed/duration. Subaru even settled a class action lawsuit over this a few years back, and then turned around and continued using the same exact tight bearing clearances. So its actually likely going to be a little more reliable at higher power levels with a properly assembled aftermarket engine in there than with the stock bottom end. And babying it to 'save the motor' defeats the point of owning a sporty car. People should only buy these cars if theyre going all the way with the building. I think of it like you're buying a platform, and then you have to build on it because the stock bits are trash.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

​@@dumpjeep Interesting... I defintely don't like babying it, so far we have 10k miles without any issues. Granted it is not a track car so it isn't seeing super heavy use but this would not be my first choice for racing. I would totally disagree that people should only buy an STI with the intention of building all the way LOL. I would say personally say the exact opposite if you want to actually enjoy the car. I wouldn't buy an STI with the intention of being fast, I bought it because its a well-rounded sports car that is inexpensive and offers what I was looking for. There is also the nostaglic factor for me because I owned a stage 2 STI about 11 years ago and that car was one of my favorites. I have no doubt this car will serve its purpose well for me. After collectively putting over 150k trouble free miles on various STIs/Subarus it seems that most of issues are due to user error.

@robertbilic4021

Жыл бұрын

I do not understand I as a IT guy know more about STI then "car" guys... to compare STI and M3 is really stupid. STI is not a track car, this is a dirt car. put M3 on a dirt or on a short and narrow track then you will see what is M3 and what is a STI.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

@@robertbilic4021 agreed. Buying an STI with the idea that it’s going to be a solid car with M3 performance on the track and street will set yourself up for failure, disappointment and tons of wasted money. Imo.

And today, they have not come down in value. And the reason? They stopped making them. A very good condition late model STi is desirable. The longer time passes, and the ones that have not been over-modded will continue to accrue value. Look at ANY performance car from whatever era, and the good condition ones sell at a higher price. Since the STi is often beaten on by younger drivers, it naturally makes the well-taken-care-of ones more scarce, and thus more desirable. Key word is "stock." So I don't think the prices will come down, and 43k for a good one, 18-21, is reasonable.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

That is an interesting observation but my car has dropped significantly in value since this video. My car is also in virtually mint condition and bone stock - 2021. It is down to around $36k for trade-in now and would private party sale around $40k. My car has lost around 7-10% since the making of this video. Also, there are way more economic factors at play than just the fact that they stopped making them. Your average American is flat broke right now with inflation and with 7%+ interest rates the pool of buyers dried up fast. It is a supply-and-demand game. Cars don't just hold value unless the market can support them and STIs have been dropping just as everything else has. I think a super clean, low mile 04-06 model will be the pinnacle of what a "classic" STI goes for in the next 5-10 years.

@dwightevans8545

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts. In 21, I was fortunate not to be price gouged by the dealer. I paid sticker, somewhere around 37, about 39 out the door. Any car will lose value. But you make good points. I'm hoping to hang on to mine for a long time.

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

@@dwightevans8545 Awesome! Me too plan to keep this car for a long time

dealership addons are just rip offs. SAY NO THANKS!!!

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

You were wrong, buddy! lol!

@steveswiat

Жыл бұрын

You mean spot on lol. Since I made this video STIs have gone down 10%+ and will continue to drop. Edit: the value actually dropped more than 7% - closer to 10%+ My car was valued around $47,000 at the time of this video. Now in the high 30s. 2021. Bone stock 17k miles and mint condition. Make me laugh the amount of guys who get defensive about their car losing value :)