I started out with a Model S and my wife had a Model Y. Now we both have Lightnings, so I already had a charger. On a day-to-day basis that's all we use. we pay about .13 cents a kwh. I can tell you it cost me $140.00 to fill my Eco Boost F150 when I owned it. I don't miss that at all. When I'm driving long distance like from my home in Northern Nevada to Las Vegas I charge to 100% in Winnemucca at my home, I charge 3 times for relatively short periods of time. 15 to 20 minutes. Taking bathroom breaks and have snack or something to drink. I traveled 477 miles and only dropped to 90 miles range on the Tonopah to Vegas leg which is just over 200 miles. I drove between 65 and 75 MPH for most of the trip keeping my usage between 1.8 and 2.2 m/kwh. I only haul hay with my trailer. and I get 1.8 miles per kwhr towing. I do use Tesla chargers frequently because Electrify America gets backed up here in Nevada. Using A2Z also. Best truck I have ever owned. In my case it's saving me a lot of money. I have the Blue Oval Account, a Tesla account and the Electrify America account. Having the EA and Tesla accounts will save you money if you do fast DC charging. Great video. Thank you.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

You make great points and I appreciate you watching!

@JimSpence

Ай бұрын

We had first gen rwd lr model 3; then lr model y… now lr lariat lightning…. Best ever. We’re at 8cents kWh here. Also have VW EA plan for a few years. The LARIAT ER DOES COME WITH 80A L2 charger!

@arecibo1974

21 сағат бұрын

@@GONAVYCHIEF Smart move my friend, I’m 100% with you on this one! 👍🏼 I got my Pro 2023 last year and it’s been great, thank God, I drive on highways around 62 to 65mph only higher than that for passing others & back to 65mph and I’m getting 2.4 to 2.7 miles per kwh. 70mph+ is wasteful and inefficient in every way & people don’t comprehend that one’s you hear wind sound while driving is your vehicle telling you that it’s being overworked based on its shape. Enjoy your powerwalls on wheels my friends and God bless!

@patriotone755

20 сағат бұрын

@@GONAVYCHIEF kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioqHsM-Gm5ydYrw.htmlsi=yLj0U4p022Yf5mOh an interesting perspective.

Thank you so much!! You have the most honest answers to the EV market especially with this standard range model. Always go for the max battery if it fits your budget. 👍

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

I appreciate you watching! Stay tuned for more videos soon!

Great video explaining range points to consider. All very valid points. This analysis is for a std range battery but an extended range battery is available and yes for a premium but lessens these range detractors if your use case so demands. 320mi extended range battery with the same basic detractors offers 25% more utility.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

You are 100% correct. I elected to go standard range because I needed the additional payload (2300 lbs vs 1700 lbs in an ER roughly) because of the additional battery weight in the ER. Either way it's a fabulous truck but the best ownership experience is had by going in eyes wide open. Thanks so much for watching!

Great informative, honest video. Had my extended range for over 16mths now and i love it.

@Thingswithwheels1

29 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@michaeljordan6090

27 күн бұрын

What are you getting for range with the extended range

@patriotone755

24 күн бұрын

Not according to our current government/regime. They want total control and taxing you all the way. Bidenomics is killing our country.

Fair video. I don't recommend getting anything but the extended range because of the points you've made. Also if you shop around now deals are around for extended range. I got my 23 xlt ER leftover for 20k off of sticker!

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

For my needs the standard range truck was the right call, but particularly for people who will use it as their only vehicle I totally agree with you. Great points and thank you for watching!

@roydelpozo4816

27 күн бұрын

Same . I got a 23 that had been sitting in a lot in Texas for 11 months for 20 K off +3.9 financing. There is no way in hell that I could live with a small battery as everything from me as at least 100 miles. That means 200 miles round-trip and unfortunately I hate driving slow as our roads here in Oklahoma are 80 miles an hour or 75 depending on if it’s a country road or an interstate. I have only towed a trailer twice at 55 miles an hour around 8000 pounds and the range would’ve been about 120 miles which is unacceptable to me. Thanks God it was only for about 30 miles. So I got to return home to my plug. I did put close to 2000 pounds worth of payload in the back and the range seemed unaffected. It was aerodynamic and I closed my bed cover so that helped a lot.

@matthewholzmueller6292

27 күн бұрын

@@roydelpozo4816 wow you are brave! I have a 15 mile commute, live outside of Philadelphia and drive to the Chesapeake Bay (70mile) and I don't tow.

Good points. Notr, Just got home from a 6600 mile road trip in 26 western states. Paid between $0.17 to $0.72 per kw. Ave about $0.40/kw. Ave eff was 2.3kw/mile. Cost about $0.167/Mile. No range anxiety but charger anxiety for sure. Tesla access was a game changer. Like you, charge at home on solar. My 23 XLT did come with a 80 amp Ford home charger. Thanks

@Thingswithwheels1

29 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Thanks for keeping it real! Subbed!

I’m 100% happy with my 2023 Pro standard range w pro power onboard 🤩👍🏼. You provided good information about the reality on this truck .

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching! More content coming!

You make some good points in the video. I also have the F150 Lightning, and I love this vehicle. You forgot to mention the departure time feature. This will allow the truck to either cool or warm the cabin using the AC power rather than the battery. Also, as far as towing, I have a 2k pound landscape trailer that I use and yes the range was cut in half, but the truck learns overtime and recalculates the mileage. Just the other day, I traveled 20 miles with my trailer and the estimated miles never moved.

@Thingswithwheels1

28 күн бұрын

You make great points for sure. Nothing is better than prepping the cabin for departure while still plugged in! Thank you for watching.

I own the same truck and I 100% agree with what he says. I love the truck and it fits my needs. I also love the fact that it drives like a Cadillac and not an empty bed leaf suspension pick up :D

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching. More content coming soon!

Is that stone gray? Does Ford give the adapter to you at point-of-sale now if you buy new? I'm cross shopping a Lightning Flash, PowerBoost Lariat, and a Cybertruck and am really torn. Been doing tons of research. Rented a Lightning XLT and test drove a Lariat. There's the truck I want, veses the truck I need. I currently tow with a Model 3 and with charging considerations (don't really want to charge beyond 80% like you mentioned it takes too long), my realistic range is about 70 miles between superchargers. That means I have stop about 4 times. I predict towing the same load with a Lighnting extended range would probably shave one or two stops off, so it's an improvement, but it's no Powerboost (0 stops). The real issue is V2L for use off-grid use. I ran the math and found the Lightning and Powerboost both would have roughly the same generator run endurance (assuming a full charge/tank, I can power a small cabin or RV for about 2 or 3 days, so great for weekend use), but the problem comes when you have to go in town to refill/recharge. 5 minutes vs 1.5 hours, so electric doesn't work well for extended trips.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

The truck is Stone Gray. While it was initially my third choice, now that I've had it for a bit I love it because a: few F150s are that color and b: it truly never looks dirty! Ford does not give you the adapter at time of sale, they give you the ability to order one. When I bought my truck, the lead time was about 5 months from ordering the adaptor to its arrival which prompted me to buy the A2Z. I'll be publishing a review of that adaptor soon, and then will do a head-to-head comparison between them when I have both. Stay tuned and thank you for watching

Great video, totally agree about having a home charging setup. We own a Rivian R1T and are patiently waiting (how long?) for the Tesla adapter so we can use it on long trips. Rivian network is small, so we also use EA, EVGo…etc. to get us to our destination.

@Thingswithwheels1

29 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching! The adaptor for Tesla charging is life changing!

Also, Ford’s automatic recalculation of range based on towing or driving history, for me, has been super accurate, within a few miles. Our Tesla never automatically adjusted that well, roughly about 30% off. We take road trips in our lightning all the time… no issue, just some planning.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

Good points and thank you for tuning in!

Could you place the link for the adapter here? Also, did you tow the trailer on the back? Do you have numbers for the trip or tips on towing,

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

a2zevshop.com/collections/charging-adapters/products/nacs-ccs1?variant=43186507579592 I do not have numbers on towing range, although I've been seeing other owners have significantly reduced range when towing. Hope that link helps. Stay tuned and subscribe, I plan to do a review on the adaptor and it's use with my Lightning soon!

You kept saying "use case" and that's important. I am retired and rarely go 100 miles unless it's a road trip. Most days I am home all but 2-6 hours out of every 24. If I only have the cheap easy slow charging at home (110 extension cord??) and I can charge 14+ hours a day, will that take care of me other than rapid charges when I travel?

@Thingswithwheels1

4 күн бұрын

@DaleStLouis-xb5mx if you are on a 110v charger you'll likely add something around 25 miles of range during the time you're plugged in. For local running it's probably fine. However over time I think you'll find yourself wishing for faster home charging. The optional Ford charger contains the plugs for both 110v and 220v so you can start with 110v and then when you have a 220v outlet installed you simply attach the other connector and your charging speed multiplies. To put that in perspective, on 220v you would be able to 200+ miles of range in the same time it took you to get to 25 miles on the 110v outlet. I hope this helps and truly appreciate you tuning in!

Great honesty. EV is not for everyone. But if it works for you the drive is amazing!! On any drive, it has twice the get up and go of an ICE truck! And at about 1/3 of the operating cost. What a deal. If you do a lot of distance driving and towing, stay with ICE. Just know the drive is amazing!!

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

I agree and thank you for watching!

Excellent information. Just a couple more days and I will have my lightning pro. Mine was actually cheap cheaper than every other truck I could find including the Ford maverick. I’ve purchased a used Ford lightning pro with the same standard battery pack. It had 11,000 miles on it certified preowned from Ford purchased for 36,000+ taxes and fee fees.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

That's a fantastic buy! Tune in for more Lightning content and reach out if I can offer you assistance! I'll be reviewing my A2Z adaptor soon! Stay tuned and thanks for watching

@ThunderandLightningEvPickup

27 күн бұрын

@@Thingswithwheels1 locked in. I hit the subscribe button pretty quickly can’t get enough lightning, especially as I wait for mine.

@Thingswithwheels1

27 күн бұрын

@Silverado_EV_ChEVy_Avalanche I have a lot more planned for the channel. If you have any specific videos you want to see feel free to post them in the comments. All the best with your new truck, you will love it!

I was fortunate when I purchased my lightning platinum that it came with the 120/240 volt charger and the 80 amp pro charger from sunrun at no extra cost.

I like that paint, is that gold? it's sharp. It will be a while before I go to an EV, but when I do it will be a Ford for sure. If there is something on the ford ev Lightning that I don't care for though, it would be the grill. It's just really boring or dull looking and too plasticy. =)

@Thingswithwheels1

10 күн бұрын

@user-pv6hk9pd5y the color is called Stone Gray, and depending upon the lighting it can appear anything from light metallic brown to medium metallic gray. I really like it. Also, I agree on the grill. I've seen some other guys that have painted theirs and it looks better, but I'm not mad enough at it to change it yet. Thanks so much for watching and stay tuned for more content!

note, the 2024 models only come in 20' and 22' wheels. IMHO, you shouldn't buy the standard range for exactly what was noted. You'll only charge to 90/80% and having that gives you 279/248 vs 216/192. Further, I completely agree. You shouldn't buy an EV without a home charger and a garage. When inclement weather happens, you'll still be able to charge in a garage.

@Thingswithwheels1

4 күн бұрын

@chriscobb148 you make good, reasonable points. I love my SR but it's not for everybody! Thank you for watching!

Very informative video! Just FYI, the standard range Lightning is closer to 6000lbs, not 7 :)

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

I stand corrected you are 100% right! Thank you for tuning in.

@wdbldr67

Ай бұрын

Yes and extended is 6600.

@amandaadler1860

Ай бұрын

I always thought it was 7000 also until I brought some scrap to the dump and realized with 1 adult inside it was just over 6000.

All ev charging slows as the battery gets full the cells need time to balance. On range. First: don't go over the speed limit. Second sit back and enjoy. I purchased an ext range Lariat in March. Completed a road trip from N Utah to Durango CO, the Mesa Verde and back home through Moab, Scipio 1100 miles. So many elevation changes. Half the trip was freeway, 65 to 75 mph and highway 45 to 65 mph. Rated is 2.4 miles per kw for 320 miles rated. For the entire trip our efficiency was 2.4 miles per kw. If your rodding it and its hellafun to do, or 5 to 10 over the limit, you wont get rated. But driving like that No gas car does either. EPA tests at a max speed of 65mph. Oh and I pull the same efficiency from both Tesla's in that We get our rated most of the time and in winter it's only a 15-20% drop but they are all garaged.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

All great points. Thank you for watching!

this is stuff no one talks about you are 100% right about the usable range of 70% out of the “100%”

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

I appreciate it! Much more real world EV info coming soon!

I still have my 2016 model s as it will die with me . Paid too much for it and it’s “worthless” currently. But with free supercharging it’s priceless to me . Love my f150 as a truck but the software sucks so bad ! So much lag and the nav is crap ! But as a truck it’s incredible! And I have 2.5 c per kw 11 pm to 5 am so fill ups dry to full cost less than 3 bucks! Amazing ! Love the truck but I would not travel with it . Charges to slow even compared to my 2016 . I have the “big battery” and the range is good for me . But if I ever traveled with it I would self navigate from Tesla to Tesla . The other net works just suck!

@Thingswithwheels1

28 күн бұрын

@@roydelpozo4816 thank you for watching

Thanks for the video and your honest review living with the Lighting.

@Thingswithwheels1

29 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching

I definitely wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I had to depend on public chargers. So consequently, I wouldn't have purchased my lightning if I needed it to take long distance trips. The charging infrastructure just isn't there yet and as mentioned in this video the cost per kwh is just to expensive. When I'm not charging off solar I pay $.08/kwh in winter & $.12/kwh in the summer.

@Thingswithwheels1

26 күн бұрын

@pstoneking3418 thank you for watching!

EV'S certainly aren't for everyone.

Even better charge your lightning like I do whenever I have a sunny day which gives me enough excess solar energy to charge it. If it doesn't make it back to 85% then I wait for the next sunny day. Since my round trips into town are seldom more than 60 miles, I use 30 kwh or less. Usually no more than 3 trips a week, often less I have plenty of time to charge it back to 85%. On several really cloudy days I connect my truck to charge my solar batteries and run my home. My solar battery pack capacity is just 23 kwh so it doesn't take that long to charge my solar batteries to 100%. Since I only discharge my solar batteries to 30%, I've only used about 16-17 kwh.

@Thingswithwheels1

26 күн бұрын

@pstoneking3418 that's a great strategy. We have solar that routinely overproduces but we don't have batteries, yet.

2023 Pro owner with 19k miles. THE NUMBER ONE thing to know is YOU CANNOT drive it like an ICE vehicle if you want range. I bought it for efficiency, and get the complete range (and then some..) Ford advertised with the standard pack. My charge rate with Duke power home charging after midnight is $.11 k/h, and a quick trip to Lowes gets a 50 amp breaker, #6 awg close to the panel, and an outlet for less than $30.00.. The best vehicle I have ever owned, and I'd do it again in a second!

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

You make great points! I consider efficiency to be like a game and drive to squeeze every millimeter out of a kW I can haha. I find the truck to be a true pleasure to drive and have fun in the process. Thanks for watching!

Great for around town and charging at home- worthless on going anyplace over 100 one way.

@Thingswithwheels1

13 күн бұрын

@mksusa great for around town and home charging, more challenging for highway trips of 300+ miles each way. That distance you can do stopping once to charge, and with access to the Tesla chargers it doesn't take long. Great truck. Thanks for watching.

Don't worry, nobody is lol

Thanks for the video. Informative and interesting. I seriously considered buying the Lightning when they were first taking orders. However, wanting to be able to tow my boat into Canada from just north of Minneapolis, I realized that the charging infrastructure did not exist (at that time) for making such a trip, especially when towing a 4500 pound boat and trailer. My reason for not supporting buying an EV at this time is the environmental destruction that is happening in mining and processing battery materials along with the fact that most of the battery material reserves have been bought up by China. The mining and processing of battery materials releases a significant amount of CO2 (which I am not personally concerned about) that overrides any reduction in CO2 from driving an EV for at least 100K miles. This whole push towards EV’s is not based on common sense that there will be a drastic reduction in CO2. Plus, I don’t buy into the mania that we are going to roast-to-death by 2050 if we don’t reduce CO2 emissions. CO2 levels have varied throughout history. CO2 levels were at least double of what they are today 1000 years ago. That level was not man-made from driving ICE vehicles (since they didn’t exist). CO2 represents approximately 0.04% of the earth’s atmosphere. Minuscule compared to oxygen and nitrogen.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

You make good points and obviously have made an informed decision based upon your situation. EVs aren't for everyone and I appreciate you watching!

70% of 240 is 168 miles, not 140 miles.

@Thingswithwheels1

22 сағат бұрын

@alraguc on the highway the truck doesn't have the full 240 miles of range, that's in town. The highway range is closer to 200 miles on 100%, but since you can't drive to 0% (hence using a low end of 10%), and it slows down charging above 80%, then for my estimate I'm using 200 miles x 70% = 140 miles between charges on a highway trip. Thanks for watching and for all of your comments, I appreciate it!

Shhh it’s still efficient vs gas…

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

FAR more efficient. I absolutely love it and it costs me probably 25% of what it did to run my diesel 2500.

electric seems ideal for a second vehical non daily driver truck.

@Thingswithwheels1

29 күн бұрын

It's ideal for a commuter every day so long as you can home or work charge! Super cheap to run! Thanks for watching.

Within 20 seconds of the video you said you bought a SR. Enough said.

@Thingswithwheels1

9 күн бұрын

@ph7346 yes, I bought a SR. Thanks for watching.

Lightnings are only good for city/rural neighborhoods people. NOT for country/backroads kind of people. States like Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, New Mexico should not own electric vehicles

@Thingswithwheels1

15 күн бұрын

@NoonMight that is certainly an opinion. I would think anybody who commutes under 75 miles each way to work and can home charge would do great with one of these, but home and or work charging is the key. Thanks for watching.

im really interested in a EV truck. would kill two birds with one stone... Have the truck for all the truck needs(the bed) i dont tow much. and have a commuter for work(30mi away). can also charge free at work

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

Free charging at work makes EVs a no brainer in my opinion. I would still install a level 2 charger at home too, and with that combination you're operating for literally pennies on the dollar compared to the gas counterpart. Thank you for watching!

Hybrids make sense.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

I think it depends on the use case, but I agree and it appears many automakers are swinging back in that direction. If I were to highway travel a lot I likely would have gone hybrid. Thanks for watching!

I dont mind it be an EV but stop making it look weird. The front end light stripe looks cheap.

@Thingswithwheels1

21 күн бұрын

@OriginalYTBR I actually bought the Lightning in part because it looks "normal" unlike the Cybertruck. But I respect your opinion and appreciate you tuning in!

Great Video - Perfect summary, very well described facts. I wish all EV haters would watch this honest description of the facts. Thank you!

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

I really appreciate that thank you. I tried to think of what I would want to know if I was thinking of a Lightning or even just an ev in general. More content on the way! Thank you for watching!

I bought a Ford Lightning before I watched this I’m I going to turn gay now

@Thingswithwheels1

23 күн бұрын

@@mrshopjulius5840 yay for you?

It isnt a truck. It looks like a truck, but it isnt one. I enjoyed the video, learned a couple things, but its not a truck.

@Thingswithwheels1

29 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@alraguc

Күн бұрын

Then what is it?

I tell everyone if you don't have a way to charge at home DO NOT buy EV. you will be a slave to public charging and waste of time.

@Thingswithwheels1

Ай бұрын

100% the best value in an EV is home charging. Thanks for watching!

@alraguc

Күн бұрын

And you wont save any money. I installed my home charger and it costs equivalent to 60 cents per gallon vs $3.50 per gallon with my old truck.

Today’s EV will depreciate very rapidly as the newer models get released with newer tech and higher range. We are one administration from EVs going bye bye. Try trading your EV in on a newer EV, this in of itself is scary. No EV for me ever.

@alfredtaylor7310

22 күн бұрын

When was the last time the oil companies said " hey lets give the American people a $ 1.00 a gallon discount" your a fool fool for the scumbag oil companies

@Thingswithwheels1

22 күн бұрын

@@patriotone755 I respect your opinion even if I don't agree with it. Thanks for watching.

@alraguc

Күн бұрын

And what do i care if i plan on keeping it 10-15 yeara or more.

@Thingswithwheels1

22 сағат бұрын

@@alraguc absolutely!

@patriotone755

20 сағат бұрын

@@alraguc 10 or 15 yrs? At least one or two very expensive battery replacements. Then the gov will tax you by the mile road tax since you are not paying a gasoline tax. Just sayin.😉