DON'T BUY 21 INCH WHEELS | Here's why

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

- CHAPTERS -
00:00 - Biggest mistake I made on G80
01:13 - Why 19" is better than 21"
03:55 - Why did BMW do this?
04:33 - APEX VS-5RS FORGED Wheels
08:22 - What they look like!
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In today's video, it's wheel day as we discuss why we changed from running a 21" wheel to these amazing FULLY FORGED Sprint Line APEX 5S-5RS Wheels on our BMW G80 M3!
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  • @JohnSRR-lw4bx
    @JohnSRR-lw4bx Жыл бұрын

    The previous gen M3 and M4 CS and GTS have 19's on the front to stop understeer caused by the low profile 20's. They steer and generally handle better with 19's on the front. However, the clerance to the front brakes (specially carbon ceramics) were extremely tight. With that said, there are pros and cons with a staggered setup.

  • @dannylakatos5599
    @dannylakatos5599 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe you didnt do an install video on the AST springs!! You have the best DIYs and i get my car soon and AST springs are my first mod and wish you had a video for em!

  • @dylan-nguyen
    @dylan-nguyen Жыл бұрын

    My M2c has similar wheels idk the m#s but after graphene coating them (diy) I can clean with just a pressure washer 😁 As a side note please always buy the OEM BMW * marked Michelin tires. Tyre Reviews did a video where the * marked are almost as fast as Cup 2s

  • @apexwheels
    @apexwheels Жыл бұрын

    Love the look of the VS-5RS on your G80. Satin Black was a great move. Enjoy the wheels! -Tom

  • @anthonykreiser5298
    @anthonykreiser5298 Жыл бұрын

    Those wheels look so good on that bwm!bumper!! Also thanks for the advice.

  • @bmer_dad6733
    @bmer_dad6733 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing! I went with BCF 5 spoke. Super easy to clean.

  • @Bimmer_Bill
    @Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын

    Exactly why my new tires on my 2022 M240i are 22mm bigger in diameter(285/35/19 and 240/45/19). The only issue is slight rub lock to lock on front with 12mm spacer and H&r springs.

  • @RothBeyondTheGrave
    @RothBeyondTheGrave Жыл бұрын

    I'm the weird one over here wondering why anyone would run wheels larger than 19's on a sedan or coupe. If it's something that is mostly tracked & barely street driven, that's one thing. But at least 50% of the roads I'm on REQUIRE 35 sidewall MINIMUM.

  • @etseuros8545
    @etseuros8545 Жыл бұрын

    Don’t sleep on them DSWs!💪❤️ Great choice broski!

  • @robertshawger3966
    @robertshawger3966 Жыл бұрын

    Running 20 inch HRE classic 305s on my G80. Looks amazing on it. Wrapped in Michelin ps4s

  • @TheSundaeDrive
    @TheSundaeDrive Жыл бұрын

    Looking good! Time to hit the track!

  • @davewallace9048
    @davewallace9048 Жыл бұрын

    Great information!!

  • @raffeal247
    @raffeal24711 ай бұрын

    I'm coming from 22's on a 300c to 20's on my 650i xDrive and it is definitely taking me some tire to get used to the look. 245/35/20's up front. I hit a pothole and blew out a tire. Now I am thinking about going to a 245/40/20 in the front and a 275/35/20 in the rear for that added sideway protection. I'm just not sure that the wheel-well will accommodate the larger tires...

  • @Boostleaked
    @Boostleaked Жыл бұрын

    3.0 Mk5 Supras came with 19s from factory. I upgraded them to TE37SL but same 19 inch diameter for tremendous weight reduction with zero compromise and volks are super easy to clean compared to the thin 10 spoke oem wheels. The g80/g82 wheels look like a nightmare to keep clean. I would have replaced those quickly myself if I had one.

  • @greg5143
    @greg5143 Жыл бұрын

    Looks fantastic! Is there a video with what you do to the suspension of this car?

  • @jg_media9

    @jg_media9

    Жыл бұрын

    Green is currently running AST springs

  • @TommyLGarage
    @TommyLGarage Жыл бұрын

    Hands down the best looking wheels. Love the concave

  • @F80Ho
    @F80Ho Жыл бұрын

    They look amazing 🔥

  • @xlsyntoxlp4260
    @xlsyntoxlp4260 Жыл бұрын

    I got 21 Inch Hamann Evo Anniversary Wheels on my F83 M4 and it looks stuning. Downside is that i need in the back 305 or 295 tires & they really are expensive. Handling wise it really is okey. I'm not a track guy or something. i like some curvy roads, german autobahn & doing burnouts/drifting and stuff. for burnouts the tires in the back are perfect gripwise. all in all i can't sell them because of the sexy look tbh haha.

  • @8-nw-8
    @8-nw-8 Жыл бұрын

    The M-performance wheels (I have the bronze ones) in the back are 21” and came with Yokohamas v107 on my car. I really like the setup and the tires are fine on track.

  • @KiNG-tx9je

    @KiNG-tx9je

    Жыл бұрын

    Did u get 20s up front?

  • @deniznarli2535

    @deniznarli2535

    4 ай бұрын

    yes@@KiNG-tx9je

  • @robertshaw8676
    @robertshaw8676 Жыл бұрын

    look brilliant those alloys best choice

  • @BeastMod001
    @BeastMod001 Жыл бұрын

    What oil brand do you recomend for an F82 (17).

  • @rajiv4972
    @rajiv4972 Жыл бұрын

    Another question, doesn’t it mess up the odd reading when wheels are upgraded in size…..my current F30 LCI 330e has 19” and dealership service team asked me not to upgrade to 20” since my care was calibrated to 19” when built! Thanks

  • @erich1308
    @erich1308 Жыл бұрын

    21"options are for G30 5 series and up.

  • @1hughjanus80
    @1hughjanus80 Жыл бұрын

    When you first put the new rims I loved them BUT the rim size was a tad to big BUT IDC I LOVE KIES

  • @rajiv4972
    @rajiv4972 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Need your help please….I booked my G20 LCI MSport pro pack 330e. Unfortunately here in the UK there is no option for the 50 Jahre M badges or display key . Tow queries please - 1. Is it very difficult to remove the badges and replace them with genuine M 50 years badges or should I leave it factory! 2. Is a display key compatible with the G20 LCI. Many thanks, Rajiv.

  • @endid2525
    @endid2525 Жыл бұрын

    What lowering springs or kit did you use?

  • @edgarasminelga5463
    @edgarasminelga54632 ай бұрын

    Hi maybe we could help you with this question? i have f30 Xdrive in this moment i use tyres 225/40/19 and 255/35/19 I wanted to put higher tires like 255/45/19 and 255/40/19 won't it hurt that 4x4 Xdrive?:) maybe you have an example of who used such images on the f30 thank you

  • @amessad
    @amessad Жыл бұрын

    19s all around?... very interesting!!! I may give it a try, the more i think about it the more sense it makes!

  • @ajohn502
    @ajohn502 Жыл бұрын

    What camera did you use to record this?

  • @RJW14
    @RJW14 Жыл бұрын

    Man BMW has been running staggered wheels on the M series for a long time , I remember with the E90 M3 GT4 car the teams that ran it actually chose to run just the rear tire on all corners to counter the understeer coming from a smaller slick tire in the front than the slick tire in the back.

  • @nlim03
    @nlim039 ай бұрын

    Whats the R888's tire spec on the oem bmw wheels you got there?

  • @TheDailyDriven
    @TheDailyDriven Жыл бұрын

    The 826m's are definitely a paine to clean. Them Apex's 🤩🤩🤩🤩 look incredible

  • @jay-peephillips2349
    @jay-peephillips2349Ай бұрын

    Looks super Clean, super aggressive

  • @4_HOSI_GP
    @4_HOSI_GP12 күн бұрын

    How is a 265/35R20 front tyre like on the front and with 295/35R21 is it useable?

  • @Lifeisapartydresslikeit
    @Lifeisapartydresslikeit Жыл бұрын

    Nice rims!! Looks good! I have a G83 M4 and I like the stock set up and the staggered look is sexy in my opinion. The factory rims are definitely a pain to clean but I do like the look 👀.

  • @simonh.1040
    @simonh.1040 Жыл бұрын

    Hi! Is it possible to add a 18 inch front and 19 inch rear for M3 competition 2021?

  • @ruleslawyer
    @ruleslawyer Жыл бұрын

    I went down to 18" on my F80 since the widest range of 200tw tires is there. 19" in the rear is a good choice for wider 300+ tires as long as you're going to stagger.

  • @user-ki8zf1rp1e

    @user-ki8zf1rp1e

    Жыл бұрын

    Even with 300+ tires you could probably still get away with an 18x11. Only problem is finding a decent offset and design. Don't think they make 18x11 forged but flow-forged is a good compromise if the roads aren't like Detroit

  • @ryanmattson1735
    @ryanmattson1735 Жыл бұрын

    Would the benefits in ride confort, tire size / availability, and performance continue if you went with 18's

  • @THExKINGxKINGx

    @THExKINGxKINGx

    Жыл бұрын

    The smaller the better in every way, yes

  • @G82Jesse
    @G82Jesse Жыл бұрын

    I have Apex VS-5RS wheels for my F80 M3 in brushed clear. I absolutely LOVE these wheels!

  • @apexwheels

    @apexwheels

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for picking up a set! -Tom

  • @THExKINGxKINGx

    @THExKINGxKINGx

    Жыл бұрын

    Post a vid!

  • @mbh6473
    @mbh6473 Жыл бұрын

    How wide are the 21’s and are they for sale now?

  • @FreshlySnipes
    @FreshlySnipes Жыл бұрын

    The factory BMW wheels are the best looking wheels they have ever made imo. Love them on mine. I have the bi-color version tho, which looks fantastic.

  • @arneamdahlbakkevig5888
    @arneamdahlbakkevig5888 Жыл бұрын

    Different diameter rims f/r is used by Porsche and many supercars (and also.on the M4 GTS). It helps balance the handling f/r and give a good compromise for what you want your front tires to do vs what you want from your rear tires. Explained in brief by BMW M in one of their pre G8x launch videos: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKqn26-Skq2TdrQ.html

  • @coryshade8812
    @coryshade8812 Жыл бұрын

    Are you 20” wheels with the r888r for sale?

  • @sayhi2neil
    @sayhi2neil7 ай бұрын

    Car noobs here, would it be possible to install 21inch rims on my M340xdrive which came with 19inch rims?

  • @stoveguy2133
    @stoveguy2133 Жыл бұрын

    Tire brand/model SPECS determine ride “feel”. Sidewall is minor issue.

  • @claudioagmfilho
    @claudioagmfilho Жыл бұрын

    🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Looks good. That's a great idea, lowering even more the center of gravity, that's how I think too, being a lighter wheel and all. Your car will definitely be faster now...

  • @DerHalbeEuro
    @DerHalbeEuro6 ай бұрын

    Do i sit slightly higher with 19" inch tyres or is it the same when i buy 18" inch?

  • @solomonurbanski5246
    @solomonurbanski5246 Жыл бұрын

    i like to know if run 295 35 19 with19 11width 12 0ffset all four tires would rub in front on 2023 g80 m3?

  • @stefanocofresi3225
    @stefanocofresi3225 Жыл бұрын

    Curious what the weight savings are

  • @Sorry_ImTruthful
    @Sorry_ImTruthful Жыл бұрын

    I believe the 19” in front are to help with the turning radius.. doing u-turns with bigger wheels on a sedan would be as bad as it is in a truck 🤷‍♂️

  • @Akintich

    @Akintich

    Жыл бұрын

    The overall diameter and contact patch don't change (not meaningfully anyway, most tires have slightly different diameter and width even for the same size), just the ratios of wheel size and sidewall height. You can't just change the overall wheel diameter in a modern car, that would throw off the computers and probably cause a bunch of issues. Changing the tire compound, tire width, offset and sidewall height will of course change the setup of the car, but that's the point of tuning. You just have to make an informed decision about how your car's handling characteristics might change.

  • @KiNG-tx9je
    @KiNG-tx9je Жыл бұрын

    Thnk you. Cuz. I WAS gonna get 21s. I have the zcp wheels on the f82 and there are a NIGHTMARE to clean. And way more expensive then they're worth I think

  • @austinjohnson5207
    @austinjohnson5207 Жыл бұрын

    The look lowered on 21s is so sick…. More whelk less tire is the look I love. I’d run the 21s period

  • @alleng012985

    @alleng012985

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah...That more my style do. I'm never going down in wheel size

  • @curtomaru8077
    @curtomaru8077 Жыл бұрын

    ive been running those same tires since i got my bmw . im on my second set

  • @merciless9285
    @merciless9285 Жыл бұрын

    never heard of a staggered wheel setup before? pretty sure the McLaren has the same 19F/20R setup

  • @UsefAfande
    @UsefAfande Жыл бұрын

    Alright Bryan, let’s do it for mine 😂 Just because how easy they are to clean

  • @bortforts
    @bortforts Жыл бұрын

    Meatier tires>>>rubber bands. best way to go. Great choice for the car in my opinion

  • @JGV_IX
    @JGV_IX Жыл бұрын

    Just casually showing a McLarren, but the BMW stays the star of the show - this is why I love these guys 😊

  • @josephfilipiak3331
    @josephfilipiak3331 Жыл бұрын

    Love them on my F32

  • @sheridgordon9839
    @sheridgordon9839 Жыл бұрын

    The reason why bugger wheels are at the back is for more contact on the road for acceleration

  • @gasolara2002
    @gasolara2002 Жыл бұрын

    Personally the factory wheels look better to me but that is just me. But I understand you track the car so smaller and lighter is very important. I would want a new front bumper just to get rid of the pig snout.

  • @2k821
    @2k821 Жыл бұрын

    apex for the win can’t go wrong!

  • @1hughjanus80
    @1hughjanus80 Жыл бұрын

    I put 19inch Aodhan Ds08 black on mines nice thick tires

  • @stevegivelas9769
    @stevegivelas9769 Жыл бұрын

    What are the weight difference between them all?

  • @stefanocofresi3225

    @stefanocofresi3225

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing, wish he would’ve talked about it.

  • @northzider
    @northzider Жыл бұрын

    Which spoiler is that, the M4 style?

  • @jg_media9

    @jg_media9

    Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @pikkagtr1942
    @pikkagtr1942 Жыл бұрын

    Should have slapped a set of TE37SL on it even EASIER to clean can't go wrong with an OG wheel plus it is an OG design, not a generic copy of an existing wheel

  • @jagayong9333
    @jagayong9333 Жыл бұрын

    I always thought it’s not a good idea to have staggered wheels on All Wheel Drives, equal distribution of power, unless they come staggered from the factory to handle bigger rear wheels/tire, unless you have have an Audi RS3 where the front tires are wider to get rid of their terminal understeer.

  • @apexwheels

    @apexwheels

    Жыл бұрын

    These cars come with staggered wheels and tires from the factory, both in turns of widths and diameters. As long as you carefully select tires with xDrive you can run staggered setups. Square fitments do make tire selection easier though. -Tom

  • @Aaron-yn4bk

    @Aaron-yn4bk

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure BMW knows what they are doing when they engineered this car to run the staggered set up. This isn’t their first rodeo.

  • @InfoumusMOBB
    @InfoumusMOBB Жыл бұрын

    Apex in bronze/gold for 22 M240?

  • @jg_media9
    @jg_media9 Жыл бұрын

    Apex for the win for sure 👌👌

  • @phillyphil1513
    @phillyphil1513 Жыл бұрын

    re: "DON'T BUY 21 INCH WHEELS" oh I'm buying them pal and you can't stop me...!!! #21SFORLIFE

  • @parthdinubhai
    @parthdinubhai Жыл бұрын

    when is the f80 dyno vid

  • @TheEpyonz
    @TheEpyonz Жыл бұрын

    Who puts larger wheels up front? FWD cars?

  • @marcv.5574
    @marcv.557411 ай бұрын

    Popular set up; bigger wheels always go in the back.

  • @backnunAndy
    @backnunAndy Жыл бұрын

    I thought that you are not chasing with lap time. It is upto people what they are looking after. Stance or Performance!

  • @KainSwiss
    @KainSwiss Жыл бұрын

    Only put 21' on Audi SUV's or VW, BMW M3 20 at the back 19 at the front or boxed 20 20 - 21' is overkill and ride will be extremely uncomfortable. Best wheels in my opinion are Edelweiss LT3's based in germany

  • @strawboi
    @strawboi Жыл бұрын

    The discomfort from the wheel size is minimum - my RS6 has 21 inch as standard, never felt uncomfortable.

  • @Boostleaked

    @Boostleaked

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s because they had to over engineer the rs6 suspension system to offset how bad the ride would be otherwise. You as a the consumer will pay for it with your wallet when the system breaks at some point.

  • @gtiguy727

    @gtiguy727

    Жыл бұрын

    21’s are fine. Question is what series sidewall. That’s everything to do with ride comfort.

  • @b864r
    @b864r Жыл бұрын

    Te37 for the win

  • @vincentgarcia2702
    @vincentgarcia2702 Жыл бұрын

    I understand how people complain about having to clean their vehicles? Unless your collecting it and storing it away you shouldn’t complain. Its inevitable.

  • @WhatsyourForte
    @WhatsyourForte Жыл бұрын

    Niceeee

  • @ronin120
    @ronin12010 ай бұрын

    20s in the front and 19 in the back??

  • @justinbuice
    @justinbuice Жыл бұрын

    And here I am thinking 19’s are too big for me 😅😆

  • @RothBeyondTheGrave

    @RothBeyondTheGrave

    Жыл бұрын

    Same! I'm not sure what kind of roads other people are driving on, but here in South Jersey I'm likely never messin with less than a 35 sidewall.

  • @THExKINGxKINGx

    @THExKINGxKINGx

    Жыл бұрын

    The 18s on your 340 were sick. You wish you would have gotten 18s on your gts instead of 19?

  • @Akac3sh
    @Akac3sh6 ай бұрын

    lmao wait till he sees my 25’ setup

  • @gigidigiardinis604
    @gigidigiardinis604 Жыл бұрын

    I have 666 Wheels on F80, absolute nightmare to clean. They are always dirty.

  • @kentao4
    @kentao4 Жыл бұрын

    I need oem 19s all around.

  • @pmoerkens
    @pmoerkens Жыл бұрын

    21's look too big and 19's look too small. So 20's are just right for the G8x and you have a decent amount of tire options.

  • @franksam8610
    @franksam86105 ай бұрын

    I need 21” for my x5 m

  • @nycshelbygt500
    @nycshelbygt500 Жыл бұрын

    Keep in mind that due to very high oil prices, performance tire prices exploded to $350-400 each. So look for holiday sales. There are also severe tire shortages in some sizes due to supply chain issues. 35 profile tires have a lot of sidewall. HaHa No.....Not for New York/New Jersey. 285/295 F/R is OK....but you might need to go wider in the rear as HP increases. X-Drive limits your options. Should have gone gold finish in the APEX Forged Wheels, since it goes so well with Isle of Man Green. Gotta ceramic coat the wheels and go ceramic brake pads for easier wheel cleaning. #TheStraightPipes recommend Continental Performance Tires, so obviously do the opposite. JK HaHa. Bryan went #FullThorRagnarok with Stan Lee on that haircut. Ouch!

  • @MiG-40i
    @MiG-40i Жыл бұрын

    As far as I can see in the video, you have the wrong tire dimensions on the 21-inch rim. you can clearly see that this wheel is higher than the other two because the tire cross-section corresponds to that of the 20 inch. no wonder you ripped off your wheel arch paneling.

  • @clementchalimonable
    @clementchalimonable Жыл бұрын

    BMW goes with Continental because it is a German company as well, that's why. 😁

  • @natenate1462
    @natenate1462 Жыл бұрын

    Stocks look better to me but it's just my little opinion

  • @mottipaa
    @mottipaa Жыл бұрын

    17 has the best comfort

  • @jamdc2000
    @jamdc2000 Жыл бұрын

    Im fine with my Dunlops Direzza DZ102 235/40 R18 on my GTI, comfortable yet "sporty" on the canyons on stock Ronals

  • @mac11takeya2heaven9
    @mac11takeya2heaven9 Жыл бұрын

    I wanna see the face of the rim😞

  • @AdrianJayeOnline
    @AdrianJayeOnline Жыл бұрын

    21" and potholes dont mix well together, don't use 21's in canada, canada roads sucks balls

  • @xotilweoverdose7736
    @xotilweoverdose7736 Жыл бұрын

    22 inch minimum

  • @carlhornyak8541
    @carlhornyak8541 Жыл бұрын

    What’s up!!!!

  • @ralphpeiris5996
    @ralphpeiris5996 Жыл бұрын

    Bigger is not always better in tires

  • @karlkarl5733
    @karlkarl5733 Жыл бұрын

    Stock rims look way better.

  • @AP90x
    @AP90x Жыл бұрын

    My dude pushing the car with no tint for a year

  • @nathanwimsatt9438
    @nathanwimsatt9438 Жыл бұрын

    Meh - wheel is pretty boring looking and makes the M3 look dull.

  • @dimetime0
    @dimetime09 ай бұрын

    $7000 for a set here in Australia... 🥲

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