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@lourias

Жыл бұрын

Shelf pins are awesome! I do not plan to move a shelf, yet periodically, I need to adjust and readjust when I get a new item for a shelf...

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

@@lourias that makes sense.

@paulmitchell6485

Жыл бұрын

Good mix of work and humour and editing and pace. Keep up the good work

+1 to the 'Yes shelf pins' camp. No idea why KZread recommended this video to me, as my furniture building expertise is limited to Ikea - but I am grateful!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha! Well, I’m glad you enjoyed it!

I like the simplicity of the cabinets and how you designed them to curve back so as not to interfere with using the jointer. I prefer to use different types of joinery on my shop furniture, so I can practice, and hone my skills. I've been studying and practicing Japanese jointery for almost 2 years now, and I have only touched the tip of the amount of joinery they use in furniture and structure builds. Many of the smaller cabinets and furniture builds done in the traditional style do not use glue , nails, or screws. The joints have very tight tolerances so you don't need them. I just picked up a book on Korean joinery and I look forward to tackling them. Pocket holes and butt joints are fast and easy, but not a challenge and that is what I love about this craft. After 50 years of woodworking, I'm always learning and never bored with it. Keep doing your thing, it suits you.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Japanese joinery is the pinnacle. For this one I’m more going for convenience since it’s just shop furniture but elevating the joinery for a furniture piece is always a fun challenge.

I should do this in my kitchen instead of storing everything on the floor

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha! That was actually my first title for the video.

@braidynbuckner3279

Жыл бұрын

I won’t ask

@texxstalker

Жыл бұрын

😀 I hear you ... I hear you ...

Yes, shelf pins and Yes, cabinet plans, please. 😀

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Sweet! I’m on it

Alway appreciate a good ladder joke, they're always up lifting but you take them to another level.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha! Well played, way to elevate the comments.

Yes to the shelf pins. For taller book cases I usually put in a fixed shelf in the middle somewhere too.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Good call! I’m actually working on a pretty long piece right now and I’m going with fixed shelves to add structure and prevent racking. Some times the design forces your hand.

Shelf pin agnostic. Nothing to comment other than I appreciate the realistic views about pocket holes

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the honest response!

Yes Shelf Pins! Versatility is key.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah!

Yes shelf pins. Working on a built in bookshelf for my home office that has shelf pins on it. Though yes, once I have the shelves where I want them, I'm probably never going to move them.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

It's nice to have the option though.

Yes shelf pins. I really don't spend the time "planning" my cabinets. I like to just build 'em and then I situate the shelves where they will work the best.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha this is a really good point!

Yes shelf pins for shop furniture! This is the first video of yours I've seen, and it was an absolute treat to stumble upon. I found the pacing, camera angles, amount of detail and dad jokes to be spot on. I've watched enough woodworkers on KZread to know you deserve far more recognition. Excited to follow your journey, keep up the great work :)

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the positive feedback!

@davidpetruzzi4173

Жыл бұрын

Me too! He said it better than I could. Great work. Subscribed

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

@@davidpetruzzi4173 Thanks! And welcome to the channel!

This cabinet has "Get Hands Dirty" vibes. Very cool looking Shane. I like how you flared the one into the other. Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah the transition was a nice touch.

Yes shelf pins. Definitely.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah!

Yes, shelf pins. They help when initially setting up the storage, even if you never move them afterwards.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

💯

Good stuff bro. Pin till day I die, then my kids can use my cabinets too.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha there you go!

Yes! Shelf pins.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

6 ай бұрын

I’m with ya!

Definitely yes to shelf pins. I like to keep my storage space adjustable, because I organize, declutter and reorganize things on a regular basis (usually twice per year) and when I move stuff from one shelf to another, I need flexibility in height.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Precisely, I agree!

So much cuteness and beauty in these videos :)

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

2 ай бұрын

Much appreciated! Thank you!

Oh yeah.... I need some cabinets in my shop.... so I can lock the dang kittens in them while I work. Thanks for the great idea and build !!!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha, no problem! Hope it gave you some ideas.

Yes, shelf pins. LR32 set for the 1400. Dashboard has some solutions that can give you table saw repeatability, but you have to plan accordingly to make it efficient. 🎉

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

4 ай бұрын

I’ve heard good things about the LR32 but I don’t know that I would use it frequently enough to justify the cost today. Maybe if I have a built ins project that would roll into the cost. And good call on the Dashboard stuff.

Yes shelf pins I think it gives a more ajustment and they look good

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

9 ай бұрын

No doubt! I love the modularity.

Yes shelfpins! I like being able to move my shelves. Even after a few years, when my needs change. It really saved me this year when I redid my atelier

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

It’s good to hear they helped in a recent real world situation.

Yes shelf pins, I have OCD and I constantly rearranging things until I feel like it's effective enough.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I feel ya! I move stuff around pretty regularly

Yes shelf pins! This cabinet build is so clean and sleek, and has given me much needed inspiration to add storage above my jointer because it is all dead space between the jointer and the mini split. Awesome video!!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad to hear that!

Yes Shelf Pins, even though I never move them!!!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha it only feels right!

Yes shelf pins. It's just nice to be able to add or remove another shelf as needed. Even if it never is needed

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

Yes and No shelf pins. What I have found is once I get them where I want them I never move them again. Thing is, for the first few weeks or so I generally play with them based on what I'm actually putting in them vs what I thought I was going to put on the shelfs. This is for shop and indoor cabinets.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense. I too go back and fourth.

I really like the look of your new cabinets.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Yes shelf pins!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I like it!

good work. that umbrella joke was so bad it made me laugh lol

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha nice! Thank you!

Nice thumbnail and project, Shane!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Brad! I appreciate it!

I like shelf pins in theory but in practice I’ll almost never move them but I like the flexibility of being able to!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I’m with you

Yes shelf pins. It’s better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

I need cabinets for my shop so this gave me alot of inspiration. Simple but still very nice looking, exactly what I'm looking for 👍

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I love hear that! Glad its got the gears turning!

Nice, simple, and crispy!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Just like I like my chicken! Thanks!

YES SHELF PINS!!! I've already adjusted shelves in my current garage cabinet as I moved houses and I reorganized the shelves... I love this garage cabinet build. Inspires me to do some more for my garage!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I love to hear that! Thank you

Yes shelf pins. Although you may never move them. you have no idea what the future is.... Storing tall items, or many smaller shelves becomes real

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Truth!

Yes, shelf pins. Great looking cabinets, and so true for the last statement about your shop reflecting the type of work you want to do.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you!

Yes shelf-pins. I also never move them after the shelves are full. However, I find I never plan out everything perfectly and like the initial flexibility. Moreover pins/drilling guides are quick and easy.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, it takes all of 15 minutes.

fun build. great details throughout the whole process. Thanks for making this!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Yes, shelf pins. Occasionally I go on a complete reorganization spree and what has no doubt been the biggest pain in my rear end is the one bookshelf where a shelf is screwed in, even though it has pinholes.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, I can see how that would be frustrating. Shelf pins are a must on a bookcase.

Yes shelf pins! This is right on time! I was just trying to figure out what to do with my cabinets. The curve is really slick!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I hope this one helps!

Well done as always Shane

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you man, and thanks for joining the live chat tonight!

@kevinb6102

Жыл бұрын

@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks didn’t want to miss it! Love being part of the community!

Yes shelf pins. If you need them, they're already done. If you don't - they don't get in the way. And for a shop, I'd double up and put everything on wheels that I can - cause what are the chances I laid the shop out correctly for every project? Nil. So, moving things lets the shop adjust to me rather than needing me to adjust to the shop.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Heck ya! I agree with you on all of that.

Yes shelf pins for lightweight stuff, for medium weight, use holes that go all the way and bolt the shelves, and for heavier stuff, cut boards the width of the shelf, and the height between each shelf, then screw that to the back. You can add angles to support the front and don the same on the side if it's still too heavy. Using some laths for less heavy duty shelves works too, and you can always move that by unscrewing them and screwing them at an other height, than add a sticker on the old holes. Though you can do that with a shelf pin setup or any shelf. I'll add, use whatever you want for furniture, as long as it looks good enough to you and does its job, it doesn't need to be perfect.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Very true

Yes - Shelf pins. You may not ever change the level of the shelves, but YOU CAN if you need to. If you don't use shelf pins, you CAN'T.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Solid reasoning!

I'm having a ton of shop envy right now.

@cabman86

Жыл бұрын

Mine is an 8x12 shed.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

The trick is to slowly move all the non woodworking stuff out of the garage haha

@cabman86

Жыл бұрын

@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks I do. I built carts for my jointer, planer, band saw and table saw. I roll them outside so I have room inside. I have a 12 ft bench on one side and a miter saw station on the other side.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

@@cabman86 nice man!

Bloody good looking cabinets mate. As far as workshop cabinets are concerned, you really hit the nail on the head...

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I think they'll work out great!

Yes Shelf pins, but only a few. And Pocket Holes are badass

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha nice!

Yes I like shelf pins on shop furniture so in the future if your tools change you have room to play

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Smart man

YES! Shelf pins. Cabs look great. I really like the combo finish; perfect for a shop, not overdone, but still stylish.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! Thanks!

May be the first video I've seen on this channel and the subtle humor is nicely executed and appreciated. The project is awesome as well!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Welcome to the channel!

Yes Shelf Pins, even if I never move them I get to set the sizes I need

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

🙌

No pin shelf. Great job! One like! One follow!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Sweet! Thank you!

They look great!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Yes, shelf pins. Better to have the adjustability if the need ever comes up. Great job with the cabinet design. I know a lot of people shun painting on woodworking projects, but I really like the pop of color it gives to a project.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I’m with ya! And thank you, I think in this instance paint was warranted.

Yes, shelf pins for even other furnitures. There are times I do move the shelves to reorganize them.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Good call!

Yes, shelf pins. My shop is constantly evolving to meet my needs. I built three 30x30x15 deep cabinets, and Shaker style doors. But as a bonus, I extended the sides down another foot to have an open cubby for my most frequently used items, such as trim router, sandpaper, cordless drill and driver, and a few battery chargers. Love this! Your video is inspiring me to make more cabinets with your features.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

That is awesome! I love to get the gears turning.

Very cool they turned out great

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Yes shelf pins, absolutely! Today, I had your video in my suggestions and gave it a try, great job on the video and the content. By the way, if you position your pin holes right, you don’t need extra holes for the hinges and the pins work great as a door stop too. Even if you don’t change the shelf’s for years, in the moment you want/ need to, you are going to be happy you made the right choice. Looking forward to see more videos of yours.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Yes shelf pins. I rarely move them, but when I do change something around having them is great. And its easy enough to drill them before assembly

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

For sure!

Every time you say final dimension, I keep being reminded of that really bad highlander movie of that name.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha, there can be only one

yes to shelf pins.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I dig it!

Yes, shelf pins

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I'm with ya!

Yes shelf pins! Having flexibility and not needing to use it is always preferable to not having them and finding you suddenly need to store something that won't fit and you have to disassemble your cabinet just to have somewhere to put it. I'd always rather overbuild than underbuild a solution.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

That's an excellent way to look at it!

Those look very nice.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Yes shelf pins because maybe they never get moved, but getting them to the right height in the first place is so much easier with them.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Yes shelf pins

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I'm with ya!

Yes, shelf pins. Because we change where we think where things where going to live to where it actually does once the cabinet is installed.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

We're on the same page.

Looking nice! Slick!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Yes Shelf Pins. It gives you the flexibility to add an extra one or two shelves, depending on what you are storing. I love to be able to configure them to my personal needs, repeatedly. 🙂

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I’m with ya there

Well done! I'm behind on doing this exact project for my shop. Good quality video, BTW. I love a good shop furniture project!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Have fun with your cabinets.

This is exactly what i need. Thank you

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! Glad you found it helpful!

I'll vote "Yes shelf pins". Doesn't seem like a lot of work, and allows for adjustability down the road when you want to change things up (even if that doesn't always happen). Personally though, I feel like I'm changing up my organizational systems on the regular when I find stuff doesn't work.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I think that is the best argument for shelf pins. Not being locked into one position allows for so much more freedom.

Very sharp looking, good job 👍

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Yup, shelf pins! 😎 Looks great Shane! 👍

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

Yes shelf pins! It lets you rearrange things later on. I'm a fan of flush cut down pins for pocket holes that can be glimpsed. . . but no biggie for shop furniture.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Good call!

LOL late but Yes to shelf pins

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

9 ай бұрын

Better than never! And I’m with ya

Yes shelf pins. I do like 5 or 6 in the center of where the shelves go. I dont move them often but every so often you need to.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Good call! That’s my thinking as well

Yes Shelf Pins for most storage. But then, i like to rearrange things from time to time and its nice to be able to make the storage work for what i need it to at that point. Also, Those are lovely.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

So true! And thanks!

Yes shelf pins ate there plans available for this

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

7 ай бұрын

I’m with ya! Unfortunately there wasn’t enough people looking for plans with this one so I didn’t end up making them.

Even if I'm likely to never move a shelf once it's been installed, I like having the option to do so that shelf pins offer. Obviously, if you attach a shelf permanently, that option goes away. That isn't to say that permanent shelves don't have their place (fine furniture et al.). But for shop storage (and bookcases), building in flexibility is always a good thing.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

That’s my exact feelings on the topic. Well said.

Hey man! Great, peaceful content bud. Sub well deserved!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that! Welcome to the channel!

Great work Shane, I found your Chanel a few months ago and love what you do, keep it up my friend. Gerard (from the UK - congrats, you have an international fan base).

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerard! I appreciate your support from across the pond!

New Subscriber, great content! Thanks for sharing!

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And welcome to the channel!

Yes for shelf pins. May have to make adjustments later.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Safety net, right?!

Really like that curved transition between the two depths.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I think it worked out well!

Yes shelf pins. I find I move shelves a lot to begin with when I'm testing layouts, even if I then never move them again

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

So true

good job, dude

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Yes shelf pins. After the video, have you gone back and sanded down, or maybe rounded down with a small router bit, the hole edges used to open the cabinet doors?

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Nice! I sanded them before I painted the cabinet doors. Just didn’t film all the sanding.

Yes to shelf pin holes -- that's called future proofing. Nice build.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! And thanks!

That looks amazing. I'm slowly getting my shop organized and you've given me some ideas

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! That what I like to hear, I’m glad it’s got the wheels spinning

@smuhhhh

Жыл бұрын

@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks Im doing a project with some maple ply right now with some iron on maple edge banding. Having a hell of a time with the plywood wanting to tear out as I trim the edge banding. Wishing I was leaving the edge exposed

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that can be a pain. Have you tried the Little Lipper from FastCap?

Shelf pins, you never know when you might need to addca shelf in the future.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I like your prepared thinking

Shelf pins equals yes. Even though the majority never move the shelf the option to do so is there.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Just knowing I have options makes me feel better about it.

Baltic Birch Plywood….of course! Of course! In UK it runs at 300 USD (appx converted) per single 8x4 sheet. Let me say that again 300 Bucks! It ain’t happening for a basic cabinet carcass mate…not unless we win the national lottery! Your build video is enjoyable, props for the work…

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah its not quite that steep here but it's up there. Thank you!

The pocket hole vacuum adapter jig is essential. Makes drilling easier too clearing the chips. You can even get the files on thingiverse to 3d print if you can't find the kreg one

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

I’ll give it a look, sawdust showers aren’t my favorite thing to do in the shop.

A very interesting project. I am not a fan of shelf pins but they do seem to make the project go faster at the end.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah they’re super easy to pop in

Yes and no pins. To me it depends on the situation. I actually do use the adjustment capabilities of cabinets over the course of time and like the pins for that reason. Most of the cabinets I built in my garage shop doesn't have pins and it works for my needs. Great video, Shane. The flow of the video was good and the story was easy to follow (and the dad jokes are on point). That curve you put on the RHS cabinet is also such a good idea! It just ties the cabinets together nicely and adds to the shop aesthetic. Also, I love Blum hardware. So much so that people look at me strangely when I get excited when I discover they have Blum hinges and runners in their kitchen... Yes, I know it's weird but I do notice these things.

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

It definitely depends on the situation. Thank you man, and I'm glad you enjoyed both the video and the project! And I nerd out about Blum hardware too so I'm sure I get those same looks haha.

yes, because though I may never move them at least I can or can switch to drawers or pullout shelves easier in future

@TimberBiscuitWoodworks

Жыл бұрын

Team shelf pin!