Nailed it. Highly recommended. And you won’t see the ending coming.

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for watching, the ending is my absolute favorite. Be on the look out I'll be reviewing a few more of his films in depth

Great review. There is one thing that is missed by everyone. Never underestimate a woman surviving alone.

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

Just watched this film and found it amazing. I was drawn in from the beginning!! The set design was so different from anything I’ve ever seen and I’m ready to watch more plays bc of it!! This was a great film.

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

21 күн бұрын

I was the same way on my first watch, I was so intrigued by the set design and its minimalism. If you liked this I would watch Manderlay from Von Trier as well. Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. Great Film For Sure

Kidman's fee was so big that they couldn't afford a proper town and had to draw it with a piece of chalk on the floor. On more serious tone, this movie gave me the same anxiety with the rape scenes that Lilja 4-ever gave me, and was happy how the movie was written with that very dark ending.

Great review! Great movie! I Agree with you whole heartedly that this movie was a hard watch just because of the things Nicole Kidman had to go through as her character and herself but the ending makes up for it!

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

6 ай бұрын

Yea man lars dragged her through hell, but the results I think were well worth it!

I think this is your best review I've seen and I've watched a Lot of your videos. I've never seen this movie but now I must watch it. You broke your down so nicely that now I'm gonna have to watch and then watch this video again to really compare. Thanks for the recommendation.

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much and you are in for a treat

I'll try it again. I started watching but it bored the hell out of me and, yes, it seemed extremely pretentious. I was horribly abused and SA'd as a child so I have already seen the worst of humanity, nothing can shock me. The only reason evil shocks people is because they are too afraid to confront it in reality. It's everywhere you look if you're brave enough to see it. As a child it was so strange to see how blind people are to evil but now I know it's because they can't confront the evil in themselves. The ego is our evil side and lies to us. It tells us stupid shit like "all parents love their children" or "I'm good no matter what I do."

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

Ай бұрын

This is not a film for everyone and I can easily understand why someone would call it pretentious trash, but I do think it speaks some nice points of human nature. I'm very sorry about your childhood and I agree with what you said about people seeing evil.

I've only seen this film in bits and pieces, but I was immediately drawn to how it's done on what looks like a sound stage. I freakin' love the fact that it feels like a play done on a Hollywood sound stage. I'm looking for this film on 'In Demand' today so that I can get what you got from seeing it. Then, I'm going over to it's sister film, "Manderlay". Can't wait! Thank you.

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

2 ай бұрын

Thats awesome! I hope you enjoy it there is a lot to break down that I didn't even cover. Its a wild ride. Manderlay is great too, I think Dogville is better but its still great pretty much picks right up after Dogville

@sherrymshephard-massat5929

2 ай бұрын

Fabulous! I've got it on my double feature list for this weekend. Thanks so much for the review. I'm a playwright so these two films are on site right up my alleyway.

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

2 ай бұрын

@@sherrymshephard-massat5929 Please come back and let me know what you thought of them

@sherrymshephard-massat5929

2 ай бұрын

Surel thing! I took these notes: 'Dogville' felt like a piece written by someone who had many times been betrayed; who had trusted and loved, and was torn apart in return. Who was then having to bear life with that heavy-hearted stone around his neck; put there by those who should know better. Grace continued to offer no unkindness; only 'grace' to the town..until she had them all killed, even the children, to get rid of the generational evil. Completely. Before they killed her. / Tom accuses the town of being 'uncivilized' / Town turns grace into their slave. / Even grace can be pushed too far / Speech about dogs by Grace's dad in the last scene and the name of the town (Dogville) are connected; connects the film finally; final scene tells you what the story is about; why she has been passive and why she decides to kill everyone / the dialogue about arrogance being rampant was something to think about / "No difference between thugs n' thieves and the townsfolk" continued to sum it up for me, but you did have to wait for it through rape scenes and some offensive bits like the black lady looking after her crippled daughter calling Tom "Massa". Being a black writer from the deep south, I found that offensive in the way that you'll find white writers who think they know how a people would react, puts said people on paper and ends up looking stupid. I love love love the set designs of both the films, though; more so "Dogville' because you see more of the street; you get more of the environment to where the film and stage play aspects come together to give the audience a good time following the outlines on the floor. It's not doubt, though, that these townsfolk were as rotten at their cores as the apple orchard rapist dude said they all were in the very beginning, and I didn't have a problem with them all going wherever evil goes when it leave this earth. Good riddance. As for 'MANDERLAY', what in the world? What happened to Nicole Kidman and James Caan? Ms. Howard and Mr. Defoe just were not the answer. Kidman and Caan gave us world-weary. Kidman gave us multiple-rapes victim while Caan made me believe that he would drive for days and days, even in 1930 blah blah, to pick up his wayward daughter and that he would indeed shoot at her. Howard gave me fresh as a daisy and Defoe gave me 'going to the speakeasy'. And I couldn't see why or how Grace was talking against killing the old lady for eating the sick baby's food when she had a whole town killed. "We have done them a great wrong that has made them what they are" Grace says at the top of the film which intimates that she already has little respect for the slaves on the plantation. She tells the slaves that the gates have been open (by her father's gangster men) and that they can leave and have the same rights in the world as anybody else! Arrogance again. Little does she know that, to these slaves, being free is the problem. In the end, she only thinks that they needed her help. The Manderlay set wasn't as vivid as Dogville's but, with the usage of one of my favorite tunes, "Young Americans' used to roll the credits on both film along with horror shots of generations of poe' n' broke Americans of all shapes, sizes and traumas, you have to know that these films are meant to speak to the generational stealing, killing and destruction in these United States. The narrator says, "A new and better Manderlay under her (Grace's) rule." Timothy says, "You made us."

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

2 ай бұрын

@@sherrymshephard-massat5929 So Sorry for the delayed response I've been sick all week. I think your breakdown of Dogville is about as accurate as you can get. You seem to break down all the symbolism. I too thought the conversation about arrogance was very intriguing and the whole spine of the film and what it truly represents. Just like the apples everyone rotted to the core even the kids they all needed to be taken out. Now in dealing with Manderlay I think Nicole just didn't want to continue working with Von Tirer as he is known to be extremely hard to work for. Im not sure why Caan dropped, but I love James Caan. Now when this came out I still think Howard needed some room to grow as an actress but I am a big fan of hers and Willem as well. So I'm a black guy from the midwest and manderlay gave me all sorts of feelings, But as soon as she decides to stay, i knew exactly where we were going and I'm glad we took this direction because I think it aligns the most in natural human nature. Someone of privilege telling others what is best, not thinking of what it is actually like being in their shoes, and of course Glovers character comes off as a man serving uncle tom must've been a real challenge in those times. Its easy to look back and say what we would have done if we were there or how we would've made a difference, but most humans just want to survive the best way they know how. von Trier has one of the bleakest outlooks on life to the point where its scary, but I gotta say hes a realist in a whole lot of ways. And ending both films with the Bowie was just incredible one of my favorite songs and artists of all time. I really want to thank you for taking the time in having this conversation with me over the last few weeks its been a complete joy and I'm sorry for the late response. Glad you got as much out of the movies as I did

It's subjective but I feel like you missed a lot of the metaphors and symbolism in this movie. Everyone of Von Trier's movie seems to be about a different kind of personality disorder/psychological torment and this one seems to have the same elements. I think it's best to look at this one through an internal family systems lens. From this point of view we're not looking at different persons but the mind of a single person and the different parts that each contain a part of the whole personality (Tom). You can kind of see Tom (leader of the whole) is struggling to manage all these parts. The dogs keep strangers away, so Tom probably mistrusts other people. Mafia/gangsters seem to want to sow chaos, etc... In the beginning Grace comes out of the mine meaning this Grace part was probably suppressed and we see in the end why it was a good idea to keep her 'locked' up there. All these parts of Tom's have so many needs... in the beginning Grace can fulfill their needs because they are positive and skittish but then they become become way more needy and aggressive and it seems it leads to some kind of madness because Grace cannot keep up anymore. I feel the figures represent Graces growing integration into the psyche of Tom... she's getting closer to the real damaged Tom... but when they break all hell breaks loose. And many many other things ;D

@dontforgetthepopcorn2948

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this and You're right a lot of his films deal with personality disorders and torment. I mean you can pretty much find it in all of them especially his works leading up to this. I wanted to approach this more from the angle of his view of America and how the characters reflect the ideals and history of the country, but your angle was great and works very well here. Thanks for this perspective

So I watched this movie and at first I was like this is the worst thing i've ever seen. And then the plot got rolling and holy shit I couldn't believe what I was seeing absolutely terrible treatment, but the revenge was great. Incredible review!!