We arrive at Sand Hollow state park for the Trail Hero event, Matt's off-road recovery stops by to give us a trail tour, and introduces us to a new friend.
Жүктеу.....
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@jodysumruld23892 жыл бұрын
Great to see the Father of Off Road recovery videos, playing with the new Kids !!👌🏻👍👌🏻👍
@backyardbuilttrucks12 жыл бұрын
This is cool seeing all you off road recovery guys together.
@dixiemae5042 Жыл бұрын
Rory’s knowledge is unsurpassed 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@pnwRC.2 жыл бұрын
It's neat to see the wrecker out of it's native habitat!
@TimMcArdle2 жыл бұрын
I love how this platform (KZread) brings people from all over the world that have common interests together! I notice in the comments on all kinds of videos words of encouragement from all over. Awesome 👍
@markwilson97602 жыл бұрын
Love it. My 3 favourite crews together
@GoatOffroad2 жыл бұрын
Way to drive that square body Eric! Love that truck! And you guys rock! ❤️🐞
@bobbruce45432 жыл бұрын
That's awesome seeing 3 completely different but purpose built recovery rigs wheeling together
@outdoorsandoffroads.5992 жыл бұрын
Pure Chevy power and on leaf springs I love it.👍
@bubbakushingtonIII2 жыл бұрын
Oh trail mater is a beast of a truck absolutely love that channel. Also a great spotter holy hell.
@micahhenry49982 жыл бұрын
Eric we love the wrecker it's really awesome to see you on the trails with Matt and all of the others hope you an your crew are having a great time
@SMGoertzen2 жыл бұрын
I love this video. People sharing tips and tricks rather than being competitive, that's rare today.
@DB-yj3qc2 жыл бұрын
As said great to see all of you together, it would have been a great time. "If someone made a call" then to see all of you show up. 👍
@johnevon30302 жыл бұрын
Heck Yeah, the wrecker looks right at home, it's all about picking the right spot, good to see you in our sand box.
@stoneblue17952 жыл бұрын
Well done, sir. You were in good company out there, lots of talent to be sure, Matt, Colt and others. Ride safe!
@trailmater2 жыл бұрын
Was a lot of fun to meet you guys and get to wheel with you. Thanks for letting me tqg along.
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
It was great to meet you too, and learn form you how the pick lines that work for the wrecker in the rocks of Utah.
@area.man.
2 жыл бұрын
So wait, if I get stuck anywhere near Hanksville/Goblin Valley/San Rafael, you're the guy to call?
@ron4862 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Love seeing all you guys together. Only one I didn't see was Paul (Fab Rats) and the taco.
@woodflea
2 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned we meet up with Paul latter in the week!
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
Matt's video of some of all of this a few weeks back or less shows more of the trail, Though not in cron. order & detailed as it is here.
@joshuabaker5712 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching yall many years ago. Glad I found yall again.
@offroadrecoveryteam
Жыл бұрын
I am glad you found us again too, Keep watch'n
@bubbakushingtonIII2 жыл бұрын
Just got done with Matts LJ20 of Eds and what a video that was watching them get to it lol.
@teamidris
2 жыл бұрын
That was one crazy adventure :o) I said it would have been quicker to carry it out in parts, but that was some good TV :D
@johnbrill19712 жыл бұрын
So cool seeing you guys and Matt's off-road and the tow mater together
@justinlynch32 жыл бұрын
Wrecker is a heavy truck usually used in forests, mud and snow. Not ideal for rock crawling I would imagine with high power and lighter weight looks to be better. Still they got it up there with no damage, so all good in the end.
@kdseidle80312 жыл бұрын
Great trip! Some awesome videos! The ole wreaker is pretty good on the rocks!
@ae80typed2 жыл бұрын
Trail Mater is awesome!
@sportsman68302 жыл бұрын
My three favorite KZreadrs on the same video doing what I love watching keep it up
@jarrodp6068
2 жыл бұрын
Missing Paul with fab rats then would be complete! 👍👍
@BallsBearing2Score Жыл бұрын
Seeing the Red Tow Truck out in Sand Hollow is really eerie and awesome! The original off road recovery meets the KZread sensation :)
@cobraskenpo22992 жыл бұрын
Awesome watching to see what that heavy wrecker can do in Sand Hollow.
@arednecksgarage2 жыл бұрын
All three of my favorite off road recovery specialists together is awesome now if you could just somehow got Ron Pratt lol
@my_name_is_chef48562 жыл бұрын
It’s really awesome to see how far this channel has gone. Awesome work guys
@redgarcia14272 жыл бұрын
Mud and sand is one extreme to another, eh!? You did great!! ✌🐢
@TBGaels322 жыл бұрын
Watching your videos whether it’s here at Sand Hollow or in the woods of Wisconsin makes me want to build my truck out and build a wrecker similar to this. I’ve learned a lot from your videos and the content is really good pretty cool to see.
@btet7902 жыл бұрын
I love all the wrecking recovery channels, all of them! I like that all you guys and gals are out there to help people of a sticky-sitch and show off your skills. Cool people, cool vehicles in some places!
@richardcooke9948 Жыл бұрын
You and Rory climbed the toll booth wall like you were going up your driveway. Good work.
@offroadrecoveryteam
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@nelagmor76472 жыл бұрын
Eric, the ol girl is a lot more stock than Trail Mater and she still gets er done, nice driving. I grew up working and riding in these old GM's with my dad, love that you have the balls to take it down the trail and have some fun.
@kresdubbin35412 жыл бұрын
Those wreckers are so dam cool Awesome to watch from Australia
@jerryb12342 жыл бұрын
I just discovered trail-mater the other-day, and I've been binge-watching his video's ever since, but all that laziness was justified, once I started hearing the other wrecker-guys admitting that Eric/trail-mater can show them exactly how the cow ate the cabbage, lol, much respect to all you guys, thanks for sharing.
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
I ran into it about 3 yrs ago now, its a H of a Beast, not sure what kind of gearing he has in it other than the E-brake he makes full use of, its a true do it all rig, with built in air compressor & all.
@clivehorridge
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stratos53100 Don’t forget the ice-cold drinking water dispenser 🤣
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
@@clivehorridge heh, he probably has a lot of other gadgets that im not aware of on it.
@Christopher-vf6kx2 жыл бұрын
What legends. 💯💥👍
@davidtanner40202 жыл бұрын
Looks like fun!!
@jordanhill37482 жыл бұрын
Man this is awesome guys . Been watching for many many years
@corvairwally2 жыл бұрын
The real OG off road tow truck from down in southern Utah is at Nations towing and its a beautiful square body still putting in work and looking great while doing it.
@ickess2 жыл бұрын
300 miles for a recovery is a long distance for sure. Dedication for sure
@harveystephens61152 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the park. Glad y’all had fun!!
@adrianchristensen13282 жыл бұрын
Man I wish we could get more content like this
@michaelcook1842 жыл бұрын
Good start to the week
@SumterWrecker2 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
@kdgckg Жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice cozy setup for traveling…
@YourLocalJohnBoy2 жыл бұрын
Well if I'm leaving the mtns in east TN to wheel the desert, I'd say that about the best group I could pick to go with 👍🏻 guaranteed to learn ALOT and make it back out for sure. Great video love all y'all together!
@aarone3790 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@HarryCane305 Жыл бұрын
I have to laugh at the posters on the rocks... just for the footage. lol
@marcusross39592 жыл бұрын
Great video
@akalksander91842 жыл бұрын
Wow, four wheel steer on that green jeep.
@tangledline2 жыл бұрын
The Patties holding up good! I might get a set myself.
@jdc83522 жыл бұрын
I've watched some many vids of all you guys around Hurricane, I almost know my way around sand hallow from 6 hours away @)))
@georgef11762 жыл бұрын
I love your kodiak
@HalfCutGarage2 жыл бұрын
Fckn A !!! Good group of people ya got with ya there!!!
@kstkn2 жыл бұрын
A legend (The FIRST) meets a legend! TOP
@gayle48042 жыл бұрын
So cool
@thoughtuk Жыл бұрын
Well done on the traila
@offroadrecoveryteam
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Deathfromblaow2 жыл бұрын
Rory knows what he is doing that is for sure
@robertheinkel62252 жыл бұрын
The meeting of the legends
@kdgckg Жыл бұрын
Rory, less truck, more gear…😂😂😂
@reclinerdriver14892 жыл бұрын
when yur rig is good on somebuddy elses turf it is a great feeling and well earned ;-}
@xmo5522 жыл бұрын
The scenery at 7:25, whoa.
@mmartian19692 жыл бұрын
With those ledges and that bumper, you could use trimming the front fender and moving that front axle forward a little bit.
@SmudgyContent2 жыл бұрын
Are you running ole military 16.5s on ur wrecker? Lolz if so, guessing yah know where to find tires??? I live in yooper Michigan and have nice old 16.5s for Chevy /Dodge
@TylerDuysen
2 жыл бұрын
my 78 dodge rv was 16.5s by 8.5 but ive converted it to 19.5 semi rubber all the way around i got tired of the hassle of finding new tires so now i have 5 good tires sitting around (i had 6 but one blew so its 6 rims 5 tires)
@xxbambamxx72612 жыл бұрын
Nice video👌 You and Matt are the two I'm following of the bunch💪 But if I'm going to keep you around to have content to watch, please stop smoking, get you a vape my dude 👌
@jmatthewssmith Жыл бұрын
Short or no sleeves! No jackets! Seat cover had on shorts! Oh, just be from Wisconsin! It's nice in Hurricane.
@homegrownson Жыл бұрын
Think having Rory Spotting helped a bunch in a new area and terrain for BSF
@heidiayers21243 ай бұрын
Maybe I'm poor. Its a good day when the is running 🙏 starts even😅 So when I see what you all do for fun. I dont get it. Butt I ❤ watching the community of crazies. Glad you got to try out your skills.
@johnme7049 Жыл бұрын
Rory says "Who needs a tight turning radius when you can do an 'Unnecessary Front Dig'?
@andrewdillon7837 Жыл бұрын
I have seen lots of what happened..BUT i still don't know,,i am waiting for RORY, Paul, Matt algud ,,hope you went well..
@terrykyees2 жыл бұрын
THE THREE TITANS
@larrybreuer44952 жыл бұрын
👍👍❤️
@sruti108 Жыл бұрын
Mat lol Australian recovery team.
@b-radumuck79032 жыл бұрын
Rory does seem to know some tricks Id love to learn more from him..
@b-radumuck7903
2 жыл бұрын
Wow he was right.. made it look like childs play
@meiermotorsports2 жыл бұрын
so was it a yes or no for paying the toll?
@dixiemae5042 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t even tire squeal that 2nd go
@KKEdlund2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why the Trail Mater uses such a wide rear axle, instead of the narrower 14 bolt in the BSF wrecker? Is there an advantage to the wider axle?
@battleborn7895
Жыл бұрын
Super late reply, but Rory said in one of his videos that he’s broken too many 14 bolt axles and went to a Dana 80 for the strength he needed. Not sure how much wider it is than a 14 bolt dual but it sure looks a lot wider
@sadiescott3331 Жыл бұрын
Who rescues the recovery guys when they all break down at once
@cobol19592 жыл бұрын
Toll Both is spelled Toll Booth (if you drive in NJ you know about Toll Booths)
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
Missed that, thanks.
@promaster1852 жыл бұрын
Old Iron is Good iron
@TeamDriftEVO2 жыл бұрын
4500 kgs - no-way
@carlt81882 жыл бұрын
You need a set up like Trail Mater. He's a legend in those parts.
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
T.M. is, though Eric's rig is centered around the Jewel of the flatbed, he would never part ways with it. and the wrecker is the Master of its own territory in the mud.
@thearmedoregoniancitizensj7911 Жыл бұрын
Hello my name is Israel I am from the USA. I think it would be really cool if you made yourself a off road recovery vehicle and call it the Canadian mator
@danhambrick63312 жыл бұрын
Nice...Where was Paul and Michelle ,The Fab Rats,?
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
Later on in the series, Go look at Matt's video a few weeks back or less.
@jamesberggren90292 жыл бұрын
You don't pay a toll booth. You pay a toll attendant
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
The joke is, do you have to pay in the form of body damage, or broken parts to get through the obstacle.
@jamesberggren9029
2 жыл бұрын
@@offroadrecoveryteam were your parents related????
@k13ehr2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, why does the green one whine so much please?
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
Extra low gears.
@k13ehr
2 жыл бұрын
@@offroadrecoveryteam I did wonder if that was it, also can I ask if a couple were running on gas rather than gasoline as I noticed a couple of cylinders on them, and while I have you are any running on electric as there are few over here in the UK doing really good conversions, less to go wrong, masses of torque, doesn't matter which way up they are it all still works.
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
@@k13ehr Yes there are some off-road rigs that run on LP, have not seen any electrics out on the trails yet.
@H4rleyBoy
2 жыл бұрын
@@offroadrecoveryteam only a matter of time, range is the problem of course so ideal if you trailer to the event with a genny, just pull the engine and mount a motor, batteries do add weight of course but an engine isn't exactly light either, it's almost a DIY job now with all the how to videos on here.
@kimjones6157 Жыл бұрын
What about the toll booth come on now? ???
@b-radumuck79032 жыл бұрын
Whats with all the advertisement flags pinned on the rocks? Is that one of you guys or just advertiser pollution
@robertquackenbush5547 Жыл бұрын
Trsilmayer the rolling work shop
@SurviventheOnslaught2 жыл бұрын
i see somebody got the jab
@Kickinpony662 жыл бұрын
@1:35... is Mara smoking a cigarette? Doesn't she know those things are deadly? @9:35... I wonder what the Crawl Ratio is, in that Green Machine?
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Great to see the Father of Off Road recovery videos, playing with the new Kids !!👌🏻👍👌🏻👍
This is cool seeing all you off road recovery guys together.
Rory’s knowledge is unsurpassed 🙌🏻🙌🏻
It's neat to see the wrecker out of it's native habitat!
I love how this platform (KZread) brings people from all over the world that have common interests together! I notice in the comments on all kinds of videos words of encouragement from all over. Awesome 👍
Love it. My 3 favourite crews together
Way to drive that square body Eric! Love that truck! And you guys rock! ❤️🐞
That's awesome seeing 3 completely different but purpose built recovery rigs wheeling together
Pure Chevy power and on leaf springs I love it.👍
Oh trail mater is a beast of a truck absolutely love that channel. Also a great spotter holy hell.
Eric we love the wrecker it's really awesome to see you on the trails with Matt and all of the others hope you an your crew are having a great time
I love this video. People sharing tips and tricks rather than being competitive, that's rare today.
As said great to see all of you together, it would have been a great time. "If someone made a call" then to see all of you show up. 👍
Heck Yeah, the wrecker looks right at home, it's all about picking the right spot, good to see you in our sand box.
Well done, sir. You were in good company out there, lots of talent to be sure, Matt, Colt and others. Ride safe!
Was a lot of fun to meet you guys and get to wheel with you. Thanks for letting me tqg along.
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
It was great to meet you too, and learn form you how the pick lines that work for the wrecker in the rocks of Utah.
@area.man.
2 жыл бұрын
So wait, if I get stuck anywhere near Hanksville/Goblin Valley/San Rafael, you're the guy to call?
Agreed. Love seeing all you guys together. Only one I didn't see was Paul (Fab Rats) and the taco.
@woodflea
2 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned we meet up with Paul latter in the week!
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
Matt's video of some of all of this a few weeks back or less shows more of the trail, Though not in cron. order & detailed as it is here.
I remember watching yall many years ago. Glad I found yall again.
@offroadrecoveryteam
Жыл бұрын
I am glad you found us again too, Keep watch'n
Just got done with Matts LJ20 of Eds and what a video that was watching them get to it lol.
@teamidris
2 жыл бұрын
That was one crazy adventure :o) I said it would have been quicker to carry it out in parts, but that was some good TV :D
So cool seeing you guys and Matt's off-road and the tow mater together
Wrecker is a heavy truck usually used in forests, mud and snow. Not ideal for rock crawling I would imagine with high power and lighter weight looks to be better. Still they got it up there with no damage, so all good in the end.
Great trip! Some awesome videos! The ole wreaker is pretty good on the rocks!
Trail Mater is awesome!
My three favorite KZreadrs on the same video doing what I love watching keep it up
@jarrodp6068
2 жыл бұрын
Missing Paul with fab rats then would be complete! 👍👍
Seeing the Red Tow Truck out in Sand Hollow is really eerie and awesome! The original off road recovery meets the KZread sensation :)
Awesome watching to see what that heavy wrecker can do in Sand Hollow.
All three of my favorite off road recovery specialists together is awesome now if you could just somehow got Ron Pratt lol
It’s really awesome to see how far this channel has gone. Awesome work guys
Mud and sand is one extreme to another, eh!? You did great!! ✌🐢
Watching your videos whether it’s here at Sand Hollow or in the woods of Wisconsin makes me want to build my truck out and build a wrecker similar to this. I’ve learned a lot from your videos and the content is really good pretty cool to see.
I love all the wrecking recovery channels, all of them! I like that all you guys and gals are out there to help people of a sticky-sitch and show off your skills. Cool people, cool vehicles in some places!
You and Rory climbed the toll booth wall like you were going up your driveway. Good work.
@offroadrecoveryteam
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Eric, the ol girl is a lot more stock than Trail Mater and she still gets er done, nice driving. I grew up working and riding in these old GM's with my dad, love that you have the balls to take it down the trail and have some fun.
Those wreckers are so dam cool Awesome to watch from Australia
I just discovered trail-mater the other-day, and I've been binge-watching his video's ever since, but all that laziness was justified, once I started hearing the other wrecker-guys admitting that Eric/trail-mater can show them exactly how the cow ate the cabbage, lol, much respect to all you guys, thanks for sharing.
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
I ran into it about 3 yrs ago now, its a H of a Beast, not sure what kind of gearing he has in it other than the E-brake he makes full use of, its a true do it all rig, with built in air compressor & all.
@clivehorridge
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stratos53100 Don’t forget the ice-cold drinking water dispenser 🤣
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
@@clivehorridge heh, he probably has a lot of other gadgets that im not aware of on it.
What legends. 💯💥👍
Looks like fun!!
Man this is awesome guys . Been watching for many many years
The real OG off road tow truck from down in southern Utah is at Nations towing and its a beautiful square body still putting in work and looking great while doing it.
300 miles for a recovery is a long distance for sure. Dedication for sure
Welcome to the park. Glad y’all had fun!!
Man I wish we could get more content like this
Good start to the week
Cool video. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
Looks like a nice cozy setup for traveling…
Well if I'm leaving the mtns in east TN to wheel the desert, I'd say that about the best group I could pick to go with 👍🏻 guaranteed to learn ALOT and make it back out for sure. Great video love all y'all together!
Awesome video
I have to laugh at the posters on the rocks... just for the footage. lol
Great video
Wow, four wheel steer on that green jeep.
The Patties holding up good! I might get a set myself.
I've watched some many vids of all you guys around Hurricane, I almost know my way around sand hallow from 6 hours away @)))
I love your kodiak
Fckn A !!! Good group of people ya got with ya there!!!
A legend (The FIRST) meets a legend! TOP
So cool
Well done on the traila
@offroadrecoveryteam
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
Rory knows what he is doing that is for sure
The meeting of the legends
Rory, less truck, more gear…😂😂😂
when yur rig is good on somebuddy elses turf it is a great feeling and well earned ;-}
The scenery at 7:25, whoa.
With those ledges and that bumper, you could use trimming the front fender and moving that front axle forward a little bit.
Are you running ole military 16.5s on ur wrecker? Lolz if so, guessing yah know where to find tires??? I live in yooper Michigan and have nice old 16.5s for Chevy /Dodge
@TylerDuysen
2 жыл бұрын
my 78 dodge rv was 16.5s by 8.5 but ive converted it to 19.5 semi rubber all the way around i got tired of the hassle of finding new tires so now i have 5 good tires sitting around (i had 6 but one blew so its 6 rims 5 tires)
Nice video👌 You and Matt are the two I'm following of the bunch💪 But if I'm going to keep you around to have content to watch, please stop smoking, get you a vape my dude 👌
Short or no sleeves! No jackets! Seat cover had on shorts! Oh, just be from Wisconsin! It's nice in Hurricane.
Think having Rory Spotting helped a bunch in a new area and terrain for BSF
Maybe I'm poor. Its a good day when the is running 🙏 starts even😅 So when I see what you all do for fun. I dont get it. Butt I ❤ watching the community of crazies. Glad you got to try out your skills.
Rory says "Who needs a tight turning radius when you can do an 'Unnecessary Front Dig'?
I have seen lots of what happened..BUT i still don't know,,i am waiting for RORY, Paul, Matt algud ,,hope you went well..
THE THREE TITANS
👍👍❤️
Mat lol Australian recovery team.
Rory does seem to know some tricks Id love to learn more from him..
@b-radumuck7903
2 жыл бұрын
Wow he was right.. made it look like childs play
so was it a yes or no for paying the toll?
Didn’t even tire squeal that 2nd go
Does anyone know why the Trail Mater uses such a wide rear axle, instead of the narrower 14 bolt in the BSF wrecker? Is there an advantage to the wider axle?
@battleborn7895
Жыл бұрын
Super late reply, but Rory said in one of his videos that he’s broken too many 14 bolt axles and went to a Dana 80 for the strength he needed. Not sure how much wider it is than a 14 bolt dual but it sure looks a lot wider
Who rescues the recovery guys when they all break down at once
Toll Both is spelled Toll Booth (if you drive in NJ you know about Toll Booths)
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
Missed that, thanks.
Old Iron is Good iron
4500 kgs - no-way
You need a set up like Trail Mater. He's a legend in those parts.
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
T.M. is, though Eric's rig is centered around the Jewel of the flatbed, he would never part ways with it. and the wrecker is the Master of its own territory in the mud.
Hello my name is Israel I am from the USA. I think it would be really cool if you made yourself a off road recovery vehicle and call it the Canadian mator
Nice...Where was Paul and Michelle ,The Fab Rats,?
@Stratos53100
2 жыл бұрын
Later on in the series, Go look at Matt's video a few weeks back or less.
You don't pay a toll booth. You pay a toll attendant
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
The joke is, do you have to pay in the form of body damage, or broken parts to get through the obstacle.
@jamesberggren9029
2 жыл бұрын
@@offroadrecoveryteam were your parents related????
Excellent, why does the green one whine so much please?
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
Extra low gears.
@k13ehr
2 жыл бұрын
@@offroadrecoveryteam I did wonder if that was it, also can I ask if a couple were running on gas rather than gasoline as I noticed a couple of cylinders on them, and while I have you are any running on electric as there are few over here in the UK doing really good conversions, less to go wrong, masses of torque, doesn't matter which way up they are it all still works.
@offroadrecoveryteam
2 жыл бұрын
@@k13ehr Yes there are some off-road rigs that run on LP, have not seen any electrics out on the trails yet.
@H4rleyBoy
2 жыл бұрын
@@offroadrecoveryteam only a matter of time, range is the problem of course so ideal if you trailer to the event with a genny, just pull the engine and mount a motor, batteries do add weight of course but an engine isn't exactly light either, it's almost a DIY job now with all the how to videos on here.
What about the toll booth come on now? ???
Whats with all the advertisement flags pinned on the rocks? Is that one of you guys or just advertiser pollution
Trsilmayer the rolling work shop
i see somebody got the jab
@1:35... is Mara smoking a cigarette? Doesn't she know those things are deadly? @9:35... I wonder what the Crawl Ratio is, in that Green Machine?