The Peterloo massacre: what was it and what did it mean? ► www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/16/the-peterloo-massacre-what-was-it-and-what-did-it-mean

@axmedmaxamed9164

4 жыл бұрын

Qso

Percy Shelley wrote Masque of Anarchy after news of the massacre reached him in Italy. He wrote several revolutionary poems in 1819. Masque of Anarchy ends: `Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number-- Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you-- Ye are many -- they are few.'

@denisdiderot6779

4 жыл бұрын

RoadKillzine A man once said: "we should improve society somewhat." And a wiser man replied: "yet you participate in society. Curious! I'm very intelligent."

@lambbone8302

4 жыл бұрын

Denis Diderot Isn’t that a Matt bors comic

And now the Guardian spends the vast majority of its time attacking a Labour leader who actually stands up for ordinary people.

@commonsense5401

4 жыл бұрын

M grimble You are correct. He stills feel the need to support the working class voters who voted for Brexit, unlike some of the other toffee nosed twits in the so called Labour Party.

Interesting video, thanks Helen. I'm shamefully unaware of much of what happened in Peterloo. I'll make a point of watching the film now.

@AlisonBryen

4 жыл бұрын

Highly recommend it. I studied Peterloo at A Level, so the film brought it all to life.

Jacob Rees Mogg was there and remembers it as the terrible day the peasants revolted.

The great Guardian 180 degree turn

Very poor review of Peterloo! Instead of asking foolish questions with people in an upscale marketplace, you might have interviewed people who actually need foodbanks to survive and workers who haven't been able to find regular employment. At the time of Peterloo, there wasn't any social safety net to prevent starvation other than workhouses. Middle class climate protestors, as today's oppressed? Are you daft?

@ericleach9854

3 жыл бұрын

Let me tell you, there is no "upscale" marketplace in Middleton or in Oldham, Rochdale, Ashton, or anywhere else in North/North East Manchester.

It reminds me of the "gilets jaunes" in France. Many "gilets jaunes" have lost an arm or an eye because of police violence, but our government doesn't care. Journalists and photographers were also targeted by the police. It looks like the situation of "Tiananmen" 30 years ago ...

The over importantance and reliance on government needs to change . Change is possible . We have come this far as a civilization we can go much further.

@extrude22

4 жыл бұрын

Wicklow Silver what’s the alternative, reliance on corporations?

@fiannafailgalway8446

4 жыл бұрын

NoYourself I was saying that its more self reliance . But I should have been more clear . I believe the state is the best solution for providing essential services (things that should not be driven by profit , but by the need to improve people's quality of life. So education ,healthcare ) and a protector of individuals (from both eachother and the state itself). It's just over reliance on any body that posses large amounts of influence and power

@fiannafailgalway8446

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrude22 I believe (and the data suggests it) private captial is more effective and becoming hyper specialised at a given thing (IE coming up with solution to problems that consumer have )

That accent in the movie clip when he said then onto Manchester. That is not a Mancunian accent. If it is I never heard anyone talk like that

John Edward Taylor must be spinning in his grave..!

High recommend the film Peterloo, if you haven't already seen it.

If that’s how you started guardian, then my, how far you’ve fallen. Do you stand up for the people? Or the establishment you so benefit from...

There's nothing less than their future at stake.

I don’t think Guardian will like the responses from the working classes below.

Honestly?? No it doesn't as most people would rather watch love island..

Fighting ! Never Surrender!

Thought u wouldnt mention the dark history of the guardian 😆 i enjoy this piece so much as much as i love to see the street interviews and what the elders think

‘North of England’ correspondent, how offensive makes the whole country outside of London seem like the exotic far off provinces ffs

Benefits are not a life choice, they are representative of poor governmental choices over workforce, and a result of limited educational opportunity

This many people are killed every week in Leftie controlled London. Liberal immigration policies did this.

Life wasn’t worse 200 years ago???🤔 what sort of a place is the north at all?

”Let’s storm St Peter's Field, they can’t stop all of us. If we run like spring-heeled jack we can move faster than their horses. Let's see that Mr. Hunt.” (English civilian in 1819)

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