14th or not, a criminal should be barred from any office, including the presidency.

@SunnyIlha

8 ай бұрын

What you've said is is true and correct!

@kristinLB

8 ай бұрын

Especially the presidency.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

He hasn't been convicted...of anything. And he's running.

@malcolmbliss777

8 ай бұрын

Criminals can’t vote, but they can become POTUS? WTF?!

@KevinCoop1

8 ай бұрын

Then the Republican Party should close and lock their doors!

We need to keep him as far away from the Oval Office as possible

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

and all his minions...

@judyshallstrom415

8 ай бұрын

Maybe we can use the remaining Mexico wall to keep trump at bay.

Lawrence Tribe is amazing! America needs him right now.

Every American should listen to this interview.

@JacqueReynolds

8 ай бұрын

I tried to share this via Gmail, it was not allowed!

@lokicam1307

8 ай бұрын

😂 Indeed! We could all use the laughs.

@louboat8159

22 күн бұрын

This needs an update

@janetritchie7499

11 күн бұрын

Yes..if you can get past Katie Couric.

Truly, I'm shocked at the Colorado judge who found that Trump incited the insurrection against the government, but then concluded that presidents cannot be disqualified by 14A section 3. How can that possibly be so? How? If the section doesn't apply to a presidential candidate, because that's all Trump is at this point, then who would it possibly apply to? Nutty, this Colorado Judge is nutty...and weak kneed.

@jamesyoungblood6231

8 ай бұрын

Well, 14C3 doesn't include to POTUS under it's grasp. It simply doesn't state the POTUS is included. Consequently, the judge was unwilling to disqualify him. The case will likely be affirmed on appeal. 14C3 was litigated aggressively in the trial, they were unable to show that 14C3 specifically says the POTUS is included in it's list of positions.

@pjpredhomme7699

8 ай бұрын

why ? it was always obvious that this is where this was going to go . I am an avid never Trumper - but I never thought this was going to work - had the senate upheld his impeachment - as they should have - that would have been a different story. These legal scholars are well regarded but the law is applied in the real world .

@pjpredhomme7699

8 ай бұрын

sounds like a federalist society judge - don't know if that is true but sure is what it sounds like

@grantsmythe8625

8 ай бұрын

It can be so because of a lack of courage on the judge's part.

@bkm2797

8 ай бұрын

I tried googling it, but they seem to be keeping it hidden, so I looked up who appointed her and he was a Democrat, I don't know if that really holds any water, but it's something.

The obvious question here is: How could the US military continue to fulfill their oath to support and defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, and obey the president, if the president was someone who had previously not only engaged in, but who had also instigated, an insurrection against the lawful government of the USA?

@lorrainevezeau-kq3jg

8 ай бұрын

Trump said he’ll kick them all out first day in office and make his own.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

You know his thugs will try something similar again. Ask Bannon.

@digitalperson108

8 ай бұрын

@@lorrainevezeau-kq3jgjust like hitler or stalin

@Littlemagpie2487

8 ай бұрын

Very good question? The oath officials swear will be rendered pointless

@davidbrear8642

8 ай бұрын

@@lorrainevezeau-kq3jg That's a perfect example of Trump's simplistic comic-book mentality. In the complex adult world of reality, it would be impossible to replace all the oath-bound US miltary who could not serve under a president who would be a threat to the US Constitution.

How is it that senators and congressmen who participated in the insurrection are not ineligible to hold those seats?

@Grandhotel256

8 ай бұрын

They haven’t been tried yet

@freedem41

8 ай бұрын

@@Grandhotel256 I imagine that having to try everyone that fought in the Civil War would not be reasonable. Everyone who supported the insurection after taking an oath would not be eligible. Even ex soldiers police etc because they violated that oath.

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

@@Grandhotel256 Neither has trump

@Grandhotel256

8 ай бұрын

@@theoneracer2716 yes I think that’s why he can run for office

@sds5502

8 ай бұрын

The rule of law is not enforced equally.

The most troubling part of the Colorado judge's ruling is that she found that Trump engaged in insurrection yet can still run on the ballot in Colorado. That simple fact shows how broken our system of justice is.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Precedents required, but I get your gist.

@jamesdavis8731

8 ай бұрын

@@jannichi6431 and this is why her decision is so sad. She is a coward. She could have set the precedent. It is beyond comprehension how she can say Trump engaged in insurrection and yet he can be on the ballot, when all others that have or would do the same thing cannot be on the ballot. She took the easy way out. Remember, there is always a first for each precedent. Trump is clearly an elected official, who held office, and swore to uphold the Constitution.

@timothykozlowski2945

8 ай бұрын

Wow, one person's opinion

@lazarushernandez5827

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesdavis8731 The Amendment also states those holding military offices, the President is the Commander in Chief of the military. It further states those giving comfort to insurrectionists. The Colorado judge found that he did participate in an insurrection. By that ruling, those congressmen and others that also participated, should be disqualified as well.

@keyscooling9585

8 ай бұрын

Whole thing is pretty comical considering the only insurrection is stupidity taking over liberal brains. A guided tour is not an insurrection just cause you don’t like Trump. Sorry Listening to the lies in this interview is disturbing. Trump never said he would go after his opponents. He said what’s happening now is setting a terrible precedent that future presidents could continue to abuse just like moron Biden is doing now. How much do these guys get paid to sell their souls to the devil by pushing this evil narrative. I pray for this country and everyone suffering from TDS. Katie and this moron are evil. So sad

We're trying to figure out why our legal system isn't doing it's job right. 😡 too much doing nothing

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Congress can prevent this once precedent is set. Voters Rights Acts.🗳️🟦

@jerry42023

8 ай бұрын

It's almost like u clowns are scared you'll lose the election

@HopeWins777

8 ай бұрын

Not only do we have the justice system failing to protect the American people but we also have the legislature unwilling to discipline its members. From Marjorie Taylor Greene poster board pornography violating private citizens and professional ethics during a congressional hearing to Nancy Pelosi being unwilling to discipline the squad back in the day for whatever they were pulling at the beginning of their terms. The bribery abounds and if they refuse to legislate to hold themselves accountable then they should have to wear jackets showing patches of all the corporations and bribes that they are taking that stop them from protecting the will of individual voters. Shame on all of them

@salty_superspreader3647

8 ай бұрын

DOING ITS JOB. YOU MEAN ABUSING. NO MANY PRAYERS OVER HIM OUR GOD IS STRONGER..

@DebbieTomkoSUNSHINE

8 ай бұрын

People are afraid.... Never fear man, fear God.

You don't have to be a scholar to figure out that the 14th Amendment, section 3 absolutely disqualifies Trump from running for any office EVER AGAIN!!!!

@pameladavis895

8 ай бұрын

He's dangerous to our democracy!

@beaugoss4833

8 ай бұрын

WRONG BECAUSE TRUMP DIDN'T COMMIT AN "INSURRECTION" HE WASN'T EVEN NEAR THE CAPITOL AND APPROVED 10,000 MILITARY TROOPS FOR CAPITOL SECURITY ON JAN.4TH.

@justintyme2451

8 ай бұрын

Actually, unfortunately, it doesn't. "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State...... " I think I've figured this out. The 14th amendment , Section 3 includes everyone except the President. The President isn't specifically a civil or military office. I'm guessing that the writers of the amendment intended for the Electoral College to handle the case involving a Presidential candidate. Oops!! Congress CAN enact special legislation to exclude him, but.....

@timothykozlowski2945

8 ай бұрын

Liberals really do live in one very delusional world

@pameladavis895

8 ай бұрын

Will need a new congress for that. There are conservatives that should help enact the legislation but just won't! Cowards who will cause all of use to suffer greatly!@@justintyme2451

What a nice man. I’d love to be in one of his classes at Harvard. People like him are the good people of our world. 🍂🍃🌈

Great interview Katie Thank you also Professor Tribe for the excellent explanation.

Perhaps Professor Tribe could explain this to the judge who just ruled yesterday that, although Trump engaged in an insurrection, he is still eligible to be on the ballot.

@ELL289

8 ай бұрын

The rule of law is so important to our society, but sometimes “the law is an ass”.

@peterwainwright5994

8 ай бұрын

It's just judicial cowardice! acts like that could loose the US their democracy!!...history will judge them disgracefully!

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Scathing decision if 100 pages. Please read. She's done Supreme courts work for them!

@purplespiritzone

8 ай бұрын

There will be an appeal.

@anthonyehrenzweig7697

8 ай бұрын

That depends on the laws of each state.

Thank you Katie from bringing Lawrence to us. He is such a fine man ❤

I had no idea that we had such anti government people in our country. This is outrageous that you could hold office or be a judge and support an insurrection. Vote them out!

@Mustapha1963

8 ай бұрын

How can you have an "insurrection" when no one has been charged with, tried for and convicted of "insurrection"? And yes, there is a law that deals with this concept: 18 USC 2383.

@ShaneLindie

8 ай бұрын

What if the election was rigged?

@Alleynetaylor

8 ай бұрын

What insurrection?

@susanweaver2866

8 ай бұрын

very important message. please vote.

@R.Pi_II

8 ай бұрын

open your eyes. there was no rebellion. no amount of ruffians at the capitol thought they could have changed the government of this nation.

You’ve done us a great favour by getting Prof Tribe to speak for over half an hour. Pure gold. Thank you.

Katie, thank you for having Lawrence Tribe on your show. He's the man to listen to when it comes to Constitutional law and more! I love the both of you for defending the Constitution and for being Pro Democracy! We all need to listen to you both! 🤗💖💖

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Katie asks excellent questions. What is on everybody's minds.👍

@melanies.6030

8 ай бұрын

I really like Prof. Tribe given plenty of time to speak and respond. Sometimes on other news outlets, there are time constraints and I'm always left wanting more of Prof. Tribe.

@pjschuster61

8 ай бұрын

@@melanies.6030 That’s how I feel about many of the guests on CNN, MSNBC, etc they never allow enough time for them to really expound on the issue at hand

@user-ql3us9sk6u

13 күн бұрын

I think Kamala Harris would have to break this truth of disqualification to the insurrectionist Donald Trump...which is in a state of denial...

Thank you so much for this. For those of us who are not lawyers or Constitutional scholars, this explanation is so very helpful. ❤

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

Katie asks really good questions.

Another very in-depth interview on this topic. Holding my breath until the Colorado supreme court hears it.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

SCOTUS bound.

@lokicam1307

8 ай бұрын

I look foreward to your sadness on the issue. 😂

Thank you for this interview, Katie. You asked the right questions, and Professor Tribe answered with wisdom and clarity, as he always does.

Professor Tribe: You , Sir, are a national treasure in regards to the US Constitution and US legal system. Thank you for your service to the nation. May GOD Bless you and may GOD keep you going thru the end of this century and beyond.

@keyscooling9585

8 ай бұрын

Mokhan=stupid

@always-ask-why

8 ай бұрын

"God" is what got us into this mess. The evangelicals are trump's base. "God" on both sides is the cause of the trouble in the middle east. Get rid of stupid religion and we would get rid of a large source of human problems. Religion is a silly story created by men who didn't know the earth is round.

@zdwade

8 ай бұрын

Lol what’s joke. The people get to decide who gets another bite at the apple. Not some never was dem elite.

A sharp, insightful and eloquent elder speaker for democracy.

Congrats Katie, et al. I think your daughter waiting to be surprised IS WONDERFUL 👏 I wish you all the best.

Please invite Laurence Tribe back now that the Colorado verdict is in. I was stunned by the judge's decision and would like to hear what both Tribe and Luttig think of the argument behind the decision. Love your interviews, Katy. Very informative.

@robertodebeers2551

8 ай бұрын

I agree.

@mongofan1

8 ай бұрын

@@fullofnonsense-dn5ni thanks, I'll see if I can find that.

@750dollarman2

8 ай бұрын

I thought he already said it’s up to the presiding judges in how they view the written context. So, obviously they saw it differently

@mongofan1

8 ай бұрын

@@750dollarman2 yes, I'm just struggling to accept the idea that those who wrote and approved the 14th amendment intended for a President or VP to be able to coup and then coup again, to insurrect and insurrect again. Seems hard to fathom that that would have been the intent.

@TheVinwoman

7 ай бұрын

And now again…

Thank you for this sober conversation - I am perplexed by many things - one in particular - how is that in many states convicted felons who have served their sentences are not able to vote, but a convicted felon can run for, and serve as President of the US. This is crazy making.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

SPOT ON, my state won't even put air conditioning in the FOR PROFIT jails. DeathSINTas* revoked Felons from voting! Texas extended more restrictions for parolees and jailed one for voting with a valid registration. Thank Senator Hughes for #1 voter Suppression laws over last few years. Gov. Abbott signed them.

@KAMMD

8 ай бұрын

45 has not been convicted in a Federal court YET

@andreah6379

8 ай бұрын

Many state laws conflict with federal laws!!! EX: Marijuana laws. Now Dobbs vs Roe is at issue. For the record, typically to make it illegal for any felon who has served their time to still not be able to vote is exactly what red-ruled states do. That's because typically the black & brown-skinned felons tend to vote for Democrats! And NOW, that same political tribe, Rethuglicons--bent on keeping or stealing power happens to have a cult leader that is running for president & they don't want anyone stopping that! If ANY Democratic candidate was indicted, like Dump-not even convicted, know that EVERY Rethuglicon would be raising hell!! Rethuglicons don't want every American to vote. They've believed the fewer ppl vote, the better off they are. And they are right. This has been their mantra since 1977. It's Rethuglicons that passed over 500 voter suppression bills in the past few years. It's Rethuglicons that have gerrymandered their states so they don't have to change any of their policies for their voters, & keep power over any Democrat that may run. That's also why they love electoral college so that their loser candidate has a greater chance to take power over the more popular candidate. Rethuglicons hate rule by majority. Their state laws favor them to stay in power.

@tc7486

8 ай бұрын

That’s a sober thought too! And one that needs an answer.

@oakhauser

8 ай бұрын

Everyone knows the answer : it is stupid

Thank you! You are exactly right, and so many thanks, Katie and Professor Tribe.

Thank you Katie Couric for addressing this vital issue. I sure hope Prof. Tribe’s remark inspires Chris Christie could take Trump to court. He’s the only candidate who would not pardon Trump.

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

I really hope you're right. Christie has gone back and forth too much to be relied upon.

Couric was great on network television, but I’m really impressed how she shows off her journalistic talents on her podcast. I hope she hangs around!

@janetritchie7499

11 күн бұрын

Wow! I am a liberal and I really like Professor Tribe...but this interview conducted by Katie Couric is a

@janetritchie7499

11 күн бұрын

shame due to Ms. Couric. Her voice is annoying, her arrogance is annoying, her questions are annoying.

@EmilyTienne

11 күн бұрын

@@janetritchie7499 Oh, no…you got that all wrong. Quit being partisan for like two minutes and you will come to see her for the natural that she is.

*31:36* Those words actually made my eyes well up. It truly moved me to tears. 'A landslide against the enemies of The Constitution'

Laurence Tribe is such a wonderful, gracious gentleman and a great American. It's always an honor to hear him speak. This is a wonderful interview.

🤗 That was excellent and simple clarity guides the way. He is a national treasure!!! Thank you both so much.

Thank you for reporting on this very important issue, Katie. Now that the judge in Colorado has ruled in favor of ol’ Donnie being listed on the state’s ballot, I’ll be anxious to see how the Colorado Supreme Court rules on it …

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Other states too, ultimately a Supreme Court decision. Guessing after Primaries and election.

@joko09010

8 ай бұрын

But I believe the judge also found that T had indeed incited an insurrection.

@jodestella2746

8 ай бұрын

About the polls… we have to look at who was called…calling same people or one party? We need to see fact checking.

@johnfraser6013

8 ай бұрын

@@joko09010 correct, she did indeed. Maybe some further charges, or a prosecution, will result from THAT finding. 👍👍

@johnfraser6013

8 ай бұрын

@@jodestella2746 agreed. One of the KZread commentators did a review of those recent polls ~ I forget who did the review, but it turned out that a huge percentage of the folks polled had NOT even voted in the previous presidential election. To me, that makes the poll somewhat bogus, from the git-go ….

Wallace in CO pulls a fast one in closing remarks saying the president isn't mentioned. SMH

@romulus_

8 ай бұрын

I think he's afraid of trump's unhinged base.

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

Nor is he excluded.

What a great interview. Thank you so much.

How can you not love Professor Tribe. He has contributed so much to our society as well as to the legal world in the world of law and education, and he is just such a lovely lovely human being. Thanks Katie.This is worth watching all the way through.

@lindaaphillippi7015

8 ай бұрын

I DO love him!

I love discussions with Laurence Tribe. He really is a National Treasure.

If Tribe and Luttig agree, there’s gotta be something there.

@pjpredhomme7699

8 ай бұрын

Well what is there is that they clearly consider Trump a clear and present danger to the country - and this was a way the constitution provides for protection from him . Whether or not people who have been given the responsibility of fulfilling that is very dubious = just look around .

@andreahughes6288

8 ай бұрын

Yes there's something there alright, 2 democrats telling lies again!!

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

You betcha!

Thank you, Professor Tribe, for speaking the truth. And continuing to do so- in the face of the insurrectionists.

@jerry42023

8 ай бұрын

Panicking over the release of the J6 tapes yet?

@SocialismSucks

8 ай бұрын

Fedsurrection 😂

Great session Katie & your guest is phenomenal and just in his wisdom on this issue. The threat is obvious. . 👍🏽👍🏽

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Easy Peasy🗳️ democracy or dictatorship. I don't WANT to live in an internment/concentration camp. Does your neighbor or acquaintance? 🗣️🟦🗳️

@mikestephens5200

8 ай бұрын

​@@jannichi6431my neighbors wouldn't want to, unfortunately they aren't bright enough to see the warning signs.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

When we chat, we can use Trump's own words. Not being an alarmist here. He passes out a token treat to National Guard today, had to wonder if he's thinking 'losers' or next time he wants a soup kitchen if elected in. The cruel hypocrisy and jokes will be saved for his way to Club member owned Mar A Loco.🤬

Hi Katie, this was very informative and I hope that the Supreme Court eventually will have this and can rule on this issue applying the Constitution for a just verdict. God willing, our country and our lives depend on it!

@stevethecat9194

8 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

🗳️🗣️🙏🇺🇸

@hartubmoses6645

8 ай бұрын

Oh God, we have to trust and depend on a corrupt Sup.Ct to make a reasonable and fair ruling on a former president to which many of them support? We can't fall much lower than that.

@jerry42023

8 ай бұрын

Bwahahahaha.

@vincesmith2499

8 ай бұрын

​@@jerry42023Even conservative members of SCOTUS cannot dispute the law.

Katie, thank you for bringing this to us, and thank you Prof. Tribe for your calm words of wisdom. Frankly, I'm weeping.

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

VOTE!

@DebbieAppelhans

8 ай бұрын

VOTE FOR JOE BIDEN AND HARRIS 4 more years greatest years to come VOTE for Adam FRISCH in Colorado Springs 😀 🙌 ❤️ 💙

@user-qx2tk4sq9b

8 ай бұрын

What a joke they are!

@user-qx2tk4sq9b

8 ай бұрын

​@@DebbieAppelhansthat's funny. biden will not be running. Everyone knows that. Besides he's a corrupt politician and has been selling us out for years. The question is, how you don't know that?

GOD bless Professor Tribes. I hope the people are listening 💗.

The judges and lawyers are always citing the defendants rights to this and that, what about the peoples rights. ? We have the right not to live in fear for the safety of our judges and witnesses and law, clerks, and ourselves. They keep saying nobody is above the law, but that’s a flat out lie. I want justice I want accountability I want transparency. Thank you for listening to my rant.

If it doesn't apply to him, then it doesn't apply to anyone.

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

It doesn't apply to presidency

Authoritarians succeed where the laws and courts show weakness. And the US courts and laws have not reacted decisively. They continue to re-write the laws to accommodate one man! If the judiciary does not face up to this very real threat and apply the laws of the land without fear or favour authoritarianism will take advantage of that weakness

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Because the Red Party CAN!!! Vote true 🔵

Thanks Katie for shedding light on this important topic. Don't stop

Thank you for this discussion. It is very uncomfortable to hear, but absolutely critical to hear and understand.

How many people have gone to jail and/or have had their lives and livelihoods destroyed? So many people.

On Friday 17th the Colorado Judge found that Trump did engage in insurrection but could remain on the ballot as the 14th amendment does not specifically state "The President". It will be interesting to see what the Appeal Court makes of that!

@jamesyoungblood6231

8 ай бұрын

They will probably affirm. 14C3 just doesn't state or list the POTUS. It's just that simple. There is reason to believe he MIGHT be included in the admendment but it is simply not clear. if the framers wanted the POTUS to be included that would have stated by title. Simple and clear cut.

@charlesbrewer6552

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesyoungblood6231 I think "the framers" would have thought it was not conceivable that a person who committed insurrection could possibly run for President! It seems nonsense to prevent all the other categories from running but deliberately leave out the President. But I agree, who knows what the Courts will decide. America appears to have gone INSANE!

@AvsFan32

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesyoungblood6231hi. Can you please explain this in laymen’s?

@deborahrivera6064

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesyoungblood6231 so the POTUS can try to overthrow the government (engage in insurrection or rebellion), but the rest of us can't......OK

@mellow5123

8 ай бұрын

Being on the ballot is not the same as being sworn in. Seems to me it's saying an insurrectionist can run all they want but they'll never hold the seat.

This needs to be in court ASAP. Do not wait two years to bring this to trial. The court system moves way too slow. This is all legal bull shit if they do not get this to trial.

Even if it wasn’t, there isn’t a judge with the balls to take him off the ballot, they are all afraid of him.

Excellent interview, Katie. It's hard to go wrong with Professor Tribe and you asked some great questions. I could listen to him for hours.

When center-left Lawrence Tribe who literally wrote the book on Constitutional Law--we studied from it in law school--and highly respected conservative Federal Judge Michael Luttig agree, its time to pay attention!

@amayawheeler591

8 ай бұрын

YES !! LISTEN TO THESE BRILLIANT TEACHERS

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

No conservatives left in Red Party. Just Anti-democratic Radicals that HATE ALL Government.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

So lucky to have great professors. Congrats. Colleges are under attack and being selectively targeted, just like many cities.💔

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Glad Texas House voted down Vouchers. 4th attempt by Gov Abbott and Lt. Gov Patrick. See Project 2025 Heritage to know why Theological Oligarch's are who they answer to🤮

@zdwade

8 ай бұрын

Center left? Center left these days is practically communist.

Hope you will address this question again, since the judge decided the 14th does not apply. Thanks!

I believe Professor Tribe is exactly correct & in the court of morality & justice as well, but the judge in Colorado just shot it down, I believe yesterday. He admits Trump was wrong yet moves to leave him on the ballot. How does America hold to its principles when judges like this make these kinds of decisions? One more defeat for the freedom of America & all that it represents. One more judge giving strength to corruption.

Overwhelmingly, I stand with the 🇺🇲USA Constitution and my favorite Scholars Professor Tribe, Judge Luttig. Katie you are a JEWEL. So glad to hear Professor Tribe's continued affirmative interpretation of the 14th Amendment & Sections. Your teachings on Constitutional law are part of my higher learning educational experience; indeed, THANK YOU!

Excellent interview!

The Constitution declares it so. It is simple and straightforward.

Great presentation by Dr. Tribe, a very knowledgeable expert and, as usual, Katie Couric asks the questions we would ask. Thank you.

Very clear. We need a follow up post the decision in Colorado

What is with the other judges letting trump stay on the ballots!!!???

@JacqueReynolds

8 ай бұрын

I think that everyone knows but none want to go on record of ruling that the emperor has no clothes. (Or, for those who don’t know that story, they are afraid what will happen to them if they rule against Trump.)

@lindaaphillippi7015

8 ай бұрын

Lack of courage

@Liliana-hh6uc

8 ай бұрын

Cause is up to the people, not the judges or judicial system

Whether it’s legal or not is a moot point. It’s stupid and the whole world is laughing at the USA.

@222lightatoms3

8 ай бұрын

The whole world is trying to survive day by day with food and housing. Finding employment and taking care of loved ones.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Better pay attention come Primaries! Rogue party defeat is the only way out of this unconstitutional mess🗳️💙🟦🗣️

@hartubmoses6645

8 ай бұрын

Then vote!

@rosssimpson6268

8 ай бұрын

Actually, my part of the world is pretty fearful of the consequences if Trump gets back in! And for all the peculiarities of the USofA, the Judicial reference to The Constitution is impressive - as it should be in Constitutional Republic! It's scary to note Trump's campaign references to so many dictators he has 'great respect' for - almost as if he is planning how to apply the same tactics if h wins (or even if he doesn't!) next November!

@ruffxm

8 ай бұрын

@@rosssimpson6268 And what part of the world are you from? Because much of Europe and Australia supports Trump. Anyone else...not so important.

It should have prevented him from being a candidate. It was passed for that exact purpose. The judge made a...bad decision and the only reasonable inferences about the motivation for that bad decision...are all suggestive of bad things. Well, we know there are some really incompetent and/or complicit judges.

Katie, now that the verdict has been delivered in CO, I’d love to see a follow up with Prof. Tribe to get his reaction to said verdict.

(IF HE IS FOUND GUILTY OF THE CHARGES OF INSURRECTION) THEN HE IS INELIGIBLE TO RUN AGAIN ! FOR ANY OFFICE IN OUR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC! GOVERNMENT!

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

We have no form of any Democratic republic...go read up on our history...oh yeah and stop being wrong!

@lokicam1307

8 ай бұрын

Anyone who thinks its guilty until proven inncoent should have their right to vote revoked for life.

@shikanyota

7 ай бұрын

During the civil war when this clause was used , non of the insurrectionists were found guilty but we're all barred from ever holding public office.

How about the speaker? Didn't he take part in organizing the insurrection? Why isn't he kicked out of Congress already?

@Dizziesaxchick

8 ай бұрын

This is my question too. They are listed by name in the amendment and shouldn’t hold office. They are also a menace to democracy every day they are still there.

@-AnPL-

8 ай бұрын

My complaint too! I wish the DOJ would appoint a special counsel to investigate these House members who are truly involved!

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely, sometimes I feel Voters and one man show Biden are the only caring peeps in USA!

@Liliana-hh6uc

8 ай бұрын

There was nit insurrection....only corrupted politicians

NO way is Katie a Grand MA!!! Where has the time gone? Thank you BOTH for this interview!!

Thank you both so much for this explanation. I learned a lot!

Great interview. It's so important for people who are undecided to learn of the potential consequences of their actions. Vote blue 💙

@wingedwarror3657

7 ай бұрын

It’s just that a vote for blue is a vote wasted

I’m not sure any commentator predicted that the judge would find that Trump did engage in insurrection, but that a President can’t be included in the term “anyone” in the 14th Amendment.

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

Nor can he be excluded therefore he is included.

@muzzy9267

8 ай бұрын

Yup

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

14th amendment doesn't apply to president...no matter how hard you wish it would..he is not SUBJECT to it's constitutional authority.

@EddieMulchy

8 ай бұрын

There's that pesky "Specifically Enumerated" clause in the Constitution getting in the way again. The Constitution specifically enumerates three (and ONLY three) qualifications to run/serve as President. As a previous President, there is no possible legal argument that Trump doesn't meet those 3 requirements. Insurrection is a FEDERAL crime. Without being accused/tried/CONVICTED of insurrection by a FEDERAL Court, Trump is NOT an insurrectionist and the 14th Amendment is irrelevant. STATES cannot convict you of insurrection and the Supreme Court agrees: Ableman v. Booth, 62 U.S. 506 (1859) State courts cannot issue rulings that contradict the decisions of federal courts.

Thank you Katie. We need these intelligent conversations.

Your guest is top quality ( Professor Tribe ). He is also a great speaker. Thank you. RS.

He did it and he needs to go to jail now!!!! Vote Blue 💙💙💙💙💙

@Liliana-hh6uc

8 ай бұрын

Vote blue bote communism

@Liliana-hh6uc

8 ай бұрын

*vote

The REAL tragedy in this whole saga, is that following his refusal to accept the result on election night, his subsequent attempt to organise an attack on the Capitol, and his multiple fake electors schemes, America can't even rely on the common sense of ALL its citizens to ensure Trump would NEVER get voted in again by effectively ostracising him.

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

That's why you need to VOTE!

@greghill7759

8 ай бұрын

@@stregalilith Forgive me, but I'm a Brit, and can only observe and advise!

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

People are sleeping. Better wake up like Sleeping Beauties come Primaries and State Conventions. Who wants a dictator?

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

​@@greghill7759you know more than 42% Americans. Love the BBC. Congrats on Boris being out of the news. Sorry for Brexit, y'all are doing fine and Oh Canada💝🇨🇦

@greghill7759

8 ай бұрын

@@jannichi6431 Thank you so much for your kind sentiments. We need all the support we can get here.

It proves that you don’t have to be smart to vote.

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

I agree with your conclusion ...almost all commenters/blue voters here fall into that catagory

@lokicam1307

8 ай бұрын

100% agree! In fact, anyone that wishes it to be guilty until proven inncoent should not have the right to vote at all.

Thank you Katie for this interview. And thank you Mr. Tribe for your presenting your learned experience on these matters. I only hope our citizens will vote in 2024 using good judgment. Obviously, past experience has shown a large number of citizens have a limited view of their actions.

Is it legal or not? That is the question, but another question is just as important but no one is asking, namely who will stand up to Trump and enforce that legal 14th Amendment?

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

SCOTUS. Then Biden can expand the Court to a dozen after being ripped off for so long. No one talks about Kennedy in Trump's no gone 'Rise Garden's Duetsche bank once again. NY lawsuit going on now.

The working part of this is, as has been said, "... if the judge finds". My question is, do some judges sometimes place their political feelings above their Interpretation of the law?

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

Ask Judge Aileen Cannon. And those who are choosing party over country.

@SunnyIlha

8 ай бұрын

Yes, it occurs. It has been occurring more frequently due to appointments of corrupt judges. Study Aileen Cannon. What happened to her. And, to thumb the nose at Justice, she was "somehow" reinstalled AGAIN as the the judge for THAT Case!! There is corruption *installed* . This corruption will be rooted out and removed; *clean* *sweep* . It's coming; the Great Purge. This purge of crime and corruption in the political realm will see the death of the republican regime. *Whole* *careers* of new upcoming younger professionals for ensuing *decades* to come will be built on the *Clean* *Sweep* . They are going to have MUCH WORK to keep them *blissfully* *busy* for their entire working lives.

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

Yes they do....

Laurence Tribe is now my idol. I don't want to dig deeply to understand Constitution and politics, but his explanations, his knowledge ( I know good ones when I hear one) and clarity of the words are so educational for me, at least even a little bit, it has big impact.

Thank you so much Professor Tribe for this constitutional education on this controversial topic. Your enlightenment was eloquently succinct to its clarification.

At least we’re learning about the Amendments by way of Trump. I didn’t even know there was a 25th Amendment. History will have fun with all of this someday.

If a politician wanted to run for president and is 34 years old they would not qualify. The minimum age is 35. Insurrection is an obvious disqualification under the 14th Amendment and all states should disqualify him, and the fight to be on the ballot should fall on Trump alone.

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

The age is a condition for presidency...the 14th amendment does not include presidency

Love listening to this man , so much knowledge !

What is Judge Wallace's education on the Constitution? How in the WORLD can Judge Wallace say "the President IS NOT an OFFICER OF THE UNITED STATES???

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Think it's about him currently running for office.

@MrWascally

8 ай бұрын

14th am. '.. any office , civil or military , under the United States , ...' the prez is the commander in chief ask any recruit in boot camp who is at the top of the chain of command of all the mil. it is so plain and obvious '.. defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic ..' the ochre ogre's time is up

I just read your memoir. Great book!

Loss of hope is where I fall in. I hope he is right, when He says the American people will ultimately decide against Criminal defendant Donald Trump.

The main issue that seemed to bug the judges in the other cases I listened to was the task of defining insurrection. Now that the Colorado judge determined him to be an insurrectionist, the language in the 14th amendment clearly means any office, and any office means any office. If you can’t be a representative, or serve in the army, then how in the hell can someone serve as president? This tyrant must be stopped. The court has a chance to do that and they need to follow the constitution.

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

Ur not a lawyer your don't understand the speaking of legalism!

@tfajsh

8 ай бұрын

You don’t even know what ‘legalism’ means.

@EddieMulchy

8 ай бұрын

The biggest problem with your comment is that Trump has NOT been ruled an insurrectionist by a Federal Court (due process). The DOJ ruled there was no proof/evidence to accuse/try/convict Trump of insurrection. So from the Federal level (and the LESSER State level) Trump is NOT an insurrectionist. Insurrection is a Federal level crime and cannot be ruled on by State Courts. The Judges "mention" that Trump was an insurrectionist is from his own bias, and the statement has no legal standing. Trump is not an insurrectionist unless (or until) a FEDERAL Court convicts him of insurrection (again, that is Due Process). The bottom line is that UNTIL Trump is convicted in Federal Court of insurrection, Trump is NOT an insurrectionist...and the 14th Amendment is irrelevant. This has been tried many times before in US election history, and always fails because States cannot find citizens guilty of Federal Crimes. As per SCOTUS: Ableman v. Booth, 62 U.S. 506 (1859) State courts cannot issue rulings that contradict the decisions of federal courts.

Thank you for this.

Thank you both for a well spoken, factual conversation 👌🏽

Thank you so much for explaining the Amendments,

Agreed

Great conversation. Thank you,

I hope this piece is viewed in every high school civics class in the country. Thanks to both of you for a very moving conversation.

@davidchoate512

6 ай бұрын

Indoctrination propaganda

This guy is so good at explaining, forecasting, and giving perspective in very easy to understand manner. Thanks - mahalo - aloha.

Is the ceo of a company an officer of that company? The answer is yes just as the president is the ceo of the United States. It could not be simpler than this!

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

President is not a CEO ..not a correct choice to use as a comparison

@chrisgillings537

8 ай бұрын

@theoneracer2716 Go ahead and explain exactly why you think that rather than leaving what is only your opinion hanging.....

The ruling that section 3 of the 14th Amendment doesn’t apply to the Office of the President is patently absurd. Of course it does. But it does beg the question why the drafters of this provision wrote it in such a cumbersome manner. They could have written the proscription in a clearer and more concise fashion and they could have laid out the procedure(s) to be followed. All rather curious.

@stregalilith

8 ай бұрын

I doubt it was within the contemplation of even the founders that a malignant narcissist would become president, refuse to leave and incite an insurrection. But he is included because he isn't excluded. He WAS an officer and he did take the oath; then he violated it. Period.

@jannichi6431

8 ай бұрын

Pretty clear and concise! Like Professor Lawrence said, Civil War 1840s oñ their minds.

@eai554

8 ай бұрын

Well, actually, it’s not clear at all. Why didn’t the drafters specifically state no person shall be President or Vice-President? And what’s the procedure for disqualification? Is it a court proceeding? In federal court, state court? Who decides? A judge, a Secretary of State, is it up to Congress ? The Senate or the House? It certainly cannot be on a state-by-state basis, but we just don’t know.

@theoneracer2716

8 ай бұрын

For 1 the amendment is not patented. And too presidency is not SUBJECT to 14th amendment.

This interview was so informative!! Thank you both!

Thank you for keeping us informed. I have been watching you all my life, and you are still doing great journalism.

He's running to keep HIMSELF OUT OF PRISON !

@KathySparkle1

8 ай бұрын

EXACTLY. Plans to pardon himself for federal crimes if convicted and is planning to invoke Insurrection Act on Day One of his presidency and wield our military AGAINST HIS ENEMIES.

@JoeyToth-ti9tp

8 ай бұрын

Susan,EXACTLY

Great interview