Does Shorter Wheelbase Make Skateboarding Easier l Creature Stumps Decks
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Does Shorter Wheelbase Make Skateboarding Easier? We met up with John Gardner and Creature Skateboards to test out their new Creature Stumps boards. They have a shorter wheelbase to make skating tighter transitions and flip tricks easier. Did it work? Watch John skate around Long Beach to find out!
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WHICH TRICK WAS YOUR FAVORITE?!
@sarahb4038
3 жыл бұрын
Eggplant on the vert wall
@sarahb4038
3 жыл бұрын
And the long 50 50 grind
@kamikazeExpert
3 жыл бұрын
The 5050 coffin
@thesuperballer9
3 жыл бұрын
any 5050, the trucks hitting the rail was so satisfying
@jackz4814
3 жыл бұрын
kevs creation
when is kevs creations coming back
@manzyg504
3 жыл бұрын
I want a prices preference as well
@runevds4205
3 жыл бұрын
Yes we want kevs creations back
@benharrison4248
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@jashar9416
3 жыл бұрын
bring it back
@jalensharp3049
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin quit CCS bro, he doesn’t work there anymore
No joke I got one of these Creature boards and hands down its the best deck I've ever had. I could significantly tell a different. I even emailed Creature and told them whatever they're doing keep doing it.
@char345
3 жыл бұрын
How long they lasted you? I got a regular creature board(not stump) feels like it might snap pretty soon.
@caseyaylward8853
3 жыл бұрын
@@char345 Lasted me the normal time. About a month to month and a half
love the style, so much steeze!
Feels like I'm watching Gonz.💯👌🏻
These decks are sick! My birthday complete is an 8.8 VX creature stump. Sick board. Has really calmed my board madness😂
Have that same board definitely love the shape I don't know what it is but I really love that board just switched not to long ago that one lasted me 5-6 months💯
He’s got some beautiful style!!
Just ordered my first 8.5 Creature Stump after riding long ass 8.25's for a while. Curious to see how it rides!
@joona2157
3 жыл бұрын
is it good?
This guys style is amazing he rips so hard sheesh
I ride this wheelbase ! Love it !
Damn dude I have basically been riding the same set up except its 9.0 in. since this video came out. The board honestly rides so good. I had never really paid attention to wheelbases in the past. I will now.
@guyfromthatthing1017
3 жыл бұрын
You ride Indys?
@Johanthegnarler
2 жыл бұрын
It's a big deal. I was riding a 14 inch forever on Ace which shrink it even more. Started riding a Polar with 14.125 and I fucking hate life lol
@wittvonwitt4403
10 ай бұрын
I just got the 9" stump absolutely love it!
@eight_hundred_eighteen
10 ай бұрын
@@guyfromthatthing1017 Indy's. Particularly older models from their back catalog . Stage V, VII etc
@eight_hundred_eighteen
10 ай бұрын
@@Johanthegnarler what happened after the change up?
This guy is letting loose big time. no way am I charging transition switch like that!
lmfaooo this dude is hilarious and he RIPS
Good for steep feeling crooked grinds amd tail is nice steep and high-ish up. If ur into that.
14.25 is not that short of a wheelbase, it’s almost the average length you see these days. sub 14 would be pretty short, 13.75 is what I thought it would be
@matthewdrumss
Жыл бұрын
Canny short for a board of that width tho
@benlilley8393
11 ай бұрын
Yea most 8-8.25s are 14.25 or lower. I wish more companies made these wheelbases with 8.5+ decks. shorter and fatter decks feel great for tech shit surprisingly.
@paulvawter8205
8 ай бұрын
14.25 is a longer wheelbase in my opinion. I don’t feel that any length of anything works better for any particular persons height/shoe size… but if ur riding a 14.25” wheel base, ideally you’d be 6 feet tall if not taller. 14.125 is about average now a days. Used to be 14” back when most people rode smaller decks (8” and under) way back In the 90’s/early 2000’s. It is a short wheel base for his width but think about that for a sec… you go up in width drastically cause you wanna try wider boards… for the most part, wheelbase lengths increase with board width. But… did you get taller too, along with trying wider and wider boards with wider and wider wheelbases?? Since most people are 6’ tall and under… doesn’t make sense to me why every company isn’t doing what creatures doing with the shorter wheelbases. It was this sole reason why I literally never was willing to try wider decks. Then I discovered the stump decks and it finallyyyyy makes freaking sense so I’ve finally started riding a wider set up. I absolutely despise wide wheel bases. And I’m a smudge under 6’ tall size 10.5 shoes. I refuse to go wider than 14”. Thr cresture I got now is freaking 8.25” with a THIRTEEN AND A HALF INCH WHEELBASE. I think… it might be too short… :/
@pauliewalnuts5241
6 ай бұрын
Creature just released a 8.61" Stump with 14.25" WB
@shibamaycry4585
3 ай бұрын
Girl's g033 model is a 8.5 at 14.25 wb
I went to Jordan high school where that park is located we used to get into gang fights there and now I’m skating there 10 years later lol
John Gardner is just plain awesome.
Rode 15" wheel base for ever, got onto a 14.25 wheelbase and was amazed. Tryed a 15 again and dont want anything to do with it
@pauliewalnuts5241
6 ай бұрын
Same here. All I get now are the Creature Stump boards
100% WORTH it, get one if you can. Love mine
Need more vids at this park
Nevermind the board, that hat is dope!
what was that beeping noise in the beginning of the video? so sick!
Very steep, great for snappy powerful skating. Plus the concave is super dish so great for flip tricks and board control 🍑
Does anyone know what kind of shoe brand this guy riding? I have a creature deck too and it is a VX deck. The middle and concave deck is in pristine condition. The tail and nose is chipped but I am still able to pop it. I still like traditional decks but VX boards rehapes itself from rebound impacts. I am blown how it lasted for more 90 days. However the tail and nose could use improvement with strength because they weaken easily. Good deck though!
i've been wanting this
as a 5'5 dude, i will be trusting that this deck is good for shorter people and i will be buying it
@sk8_bort
3 жыл бұрын
fellow 5,5 here, but after 13 years of skating I still don't know if I prefer a shorter or a longer wheelbase. They sure feel different and some tricks work better on each. The problem is, by the time I need to change my board, I swear I've already forgotten my preferences. I guess shorter is definitely better for treflips, that's for sure. Trucks play a huge role as well, but concave, lenght and overall shape do too, so... There are just too many variables.
@grashiela.v
3 жыл бұрын
@@sk8_bort hey maaan i have an old skateboard deck and planning to cut the nose because it already has chips, since i enjoy much more on cruising i was planning to set it up on cruiser. Do u think it will affect if i move the trucks 2 bolts down??
@playboimarty
3 жыл бұрын
As another 5’5 dude I like a long wheelbase w aces to shorten it. My kfs and ollies are way higher. I also wanna try this board tho
@sk8_bort
3 жыл бұрын
@@grashiela.v experimenting is fun and it's the only way to find the perfect setup, so go for it!
@grashiela.v
3 жыл бұрын
@@sk8_bort thanks carlos! ❤
i have that deck and i love it
where can i find a hat like that
Cheers from San Francisco!! ☮️
i saw him skating that day!
@xdegd1998
3 жыл бұрын
sick! lucky man
I skated that exact creature deck the 1st time I went to Barca
Can you put OJ 55s on this 9in stumps creature deck and still feel the benefit of shorter wheel base?
@paulvawter8205
8 ай бұрын
Wheel height does not effect wheel base
that was sick
Compared a 14.25 VX Vs 14.375 Flight yesterday and it does feel different. Another thing is that I have Indy’s on the 14.25 and thunders on the 14.375. The Santa Cruz tail is steeper too. I might swap the trucks to offset the effect. It’s a tiny difference but felt a lot turnier on the 14.25. Comment if you’ve tried various trucks on this..
@kenzofrm2443
8 ай бұрын
thunder tends to make your wheelbase longer and indy usually shorten your wheelbase so i think the trucks selection amplified this feeling
I'm a really big guy 1.92mts 120kg...what board do you recommend and what size?...element...creature or santa cruz
I got this board to learn on
@blackbartsimps0n560
3 жыл бұрын
It's the shit bro nobody in the game is doing it like NHS RN between these shapes the powerply and VX why skate any other boards?? Santa cruz/Creature for life bro!!
I ordered it
So I measured my “wheel base” and it was at about 15in on an almost Max pro board. So is it about .75in difference? Any more information would be appreciated!
@LBSMD
3 жыл бұрын
Also, wasn’t World Industries the OG makers of short boards?
@runevds4205
3 жыл бұрын
@@LBSMD it’s going to be much more responsive and flip tricks will be wayy easier
@LBSMD
3 жыл бұрын
@@runevds4205 I’d really appreciate a breakdown! Like how “Braille Skateboarding” compares products.
Aren't there alot of boards with less than 14.25 inch wheelbase tho? Like isn't 14inch the standard?
@reza_dc2
3 жыл бұрын
no it's not standard , most decks are 14.25.
Me and my buddy are tree-legged dudes, 6'0 and 6'5 respectively. Funnily enough the 6'5 beast rides a much smaller board than i do 😂
The hat looks like a distraction but the skating is fantastic!
Get video bro! Big like👍🏾 Awesome channel🛹
Please do more Kev's kreations
@666ixo7
3 жыл бұрын
kev quit working at ccs
@lukegarrigues7540
3 жыл бұрын
@@666ixo7 That sucks
I'm wondering why my catalog hasn't arrived. Do you all not want me to buy from you? I'm not doing it online for nostalgia and principle purposes.
@pauliewalnuts5241
Жыл бұрын
💯 we want CCS Catalogs in the mail!!!
Did he hit the lazy boy 50-50 down that rail though?!?
Yes it does, make more 14.1 or 14.12 wb, no one wants to ride a ship with a 14.38 wb. Only thing keeping me from buying creature too much 14.38 like all deluxe decks
@raiylab
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta get on that juicy 14.5 wb
@rwirtz77
Жыл бұрын
I'm riding a Traffic board 14 inch wheelbase. 8 inch deck
Speaking of wheelbase. I haven't been able to find a 8.25 deck under or 14 inches in wheelbase.
@piggytrombone
2 жыл бұрын
frog’s 8.25 decks usually run a 14 wb
@yosuozi2587
2 жыл бұрын
Try April or Primitive, they have decks with that exact specifications
can i have my 14" wheelbase pls
@puma0210
3 жыл бұрын
14 is the best
such a cool style
shorter wheelcase = for shorter legs i was waiting for someone else to validate my crazy ass theory thank you;
@allieboy181
3 жыл бұрын
Not really
killer hat!
I thinks we are the same height?
so this is why elijah berle's board looks so tiny on him?
I love this guy's skating, but that board feels sketchy at speed! Does flip good though.
Yes it does
Does annnnnyone know of a decent deck that's close to 8.38 or 8.5 by 33
Shoes are fire
What wheels are those
@davidwilbur114
3 жыл бұрын
OJs’ 87 a I think it’s 80 something but now he rides his pro models ok juice minis 55mm 75a
I bought one of these and then after one session purchased another
funky
But that was not really a short wheelbase, thats the standard isn´t it?
If you're 5'8 or above it makes it harder imo. Short wheelbases are great for kids, but if you're a more or less regular sized guy, all it does is make you have your legs/feet unnaturally close together. But please try for yourself, a big part of skateboarding is personal preference.
@user-xl4ww9rf3y
2 ай бұрын
14.25 wheelbase is generally for people 6feet tall and up. 14inch wheelbase and under will typically making skating ALOT easier for people under 6feet tall.
Is it better than a Baker
At the end john looks like jared leto🤣
That trey bomb was more of a mob skater xl trey
ive been skating stumps and its the fucking best
If ur legs are too short for the board it would be hard to get leverage
My favorite deck just broke the one in vid 2days ago the purple one is on its way now 💜
@blackbartsimps0n560
3 жыл бұрын
I ride the santa cruz version... 9" 14.25WB and I'm 6'2 180 Never going back to 8.5
@s.ibnihenry.abdullah2165
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackbartsimps0n560 I'm past many who where 180 skated 7.75 even some slated 7.5, I think but yeah I guess this kind with small wheelbase for some of help in maneuverability may be nice stability like vert I think longer wheelbase if I remember right some of flipping may be easier with very narrow boards even think alaonin way like some of kind of little wider boards in some ways even tho a 9 is way big size that I'm kkt sure would suit me, I think maybe 8.25 or 8.375 bit I guess also a 8 or 8.125 in will think is nice size also for miniramp and street : )
14" wheelbase on a 31.8" deck. thats a short and perfect for flip tricks wheelbase and size
@johntorres532
3 жыл бұрын
What trucks would you rock on those? I might be getting a a 8.12" with a wheelbase of 14.25 but idk if I should get a thunder or independents.
@bonelles
3 жыл бұрын
@@johntorres532 dude, nowadays im rocking the 139 ventures highs, but i used to rock thunders 148s and they were perfect! i just downsized my trucks cus im a short dude ahahha
@johntorres532
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonelles it's okay I'm short too lol I'm just coming back to skating after 10 years and I'm getting a 8.12" primitive deck with a wb of 14.25 and I've tried ventures and thunders before but idk if I should try some indys. But idk which one should i get i want a nice pop but i dont want nothing to low or too high
@bonelles
3 жыл бұрын
@@johntorres532 i would go with thunders! even the high ones arent as high as indys. i would go with thunders 148!
@johntorres532
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonelles yeah I've noticed thunder 147s do fit an 8 12"deck but I see thunder 148s fit a 8.12"deck. Your thought and opinion on which one? They both fit it but does it matter which I choose
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATURE
Science, I concur.
No one’s gonna talk about how he rolled in switch?
Wheel base is from center of one hole 🕳️ to other 🕳️
So they just have the dimensions of their Santa Cruz counterparts. I prefer Santa Cruz for this very reason
So much STEEZE
Shreds
I am taller than all my local male skater counterparts. Their heads are deceptively large Marge.
@guyfromthatthing1017
3 жыл бұрын
Be sure an’ tell’em Large Marge sent ya!
what shoes r those!?!??!?!?
@goop6007
3 жыл бұрын
dc josh kalis
@Chleba3267
3 жыл бұрын
the vulc version of course
Only if you are 5'3" like this dude.
I want a 13.75 wheelbase on a 8.25 egg shape. Doesn’t seem to exist
my nephew is fat and short 4'x4'. this is the board for him. thx FIENDS!
@aiseu
3 жыл бұрын
Lol he fat
@EvanSaltare
3 жыл бұрын
mans nephew is a fat 4x4
@sponger-qo9wf
3 жыл бұрын
@@aiseu like yo' mama
8.8?‽???
Yes
More 8.8 s in the world please
That reminds me; I need a new lampshade.
Who is this guy he's shredding
@pauliewalnuts5241
Жыл бұрын
John Gardner rides for Creature
John Gardner rips
Coffin Grind !!!!!
No, I hate short wheelbases! For me it’s got to be 14.25 and up!
@davidwilbur114
3 жыл бұрын
This was 14.25
@sterlingcampbell2116
Жыл бұрын
Which makes high Ollie easier?
I skate the same but in VX
Why does John Gardener look like Chris McCandless
3:18 lil kader
Nobody gonna talk about his hat?
14.25 isnt really short, thats just a normal wb
@Theruserofusernames
3 жыл бұрын
For an 8.8 it’s pretty short, it would be like riding a 8.25 with a 13.75 wheel base
@johntorres532
3 жыл бұрын
@@Theruserofusernames good sir I got a question. If I'm getting a 8.12" board with a wb of 14.25 what trucks would you recommend? Thunders or indys. Heard indys keep the wb and thunders are like a cm forward
@Theruserofusernames
3 жыл бұрын
@@johntorres532 personally I’ve only every ridden Indy or aces which keep the wheelbase short, but on a 8.12 I wouldn’t want to make the wheelbase any longer than 14.25 so I’d probably stay away from thunders or ventures. At the end of the day it’s personal preference though
Jared leto reviewing a creature skateboard
Dude it's science 🧪
I thought 14in was short
Not enough long wheelbase options
lol watch Andy Andersons videos. He rides a 15 inch wheelbase and rides on all kinds of steep stuff everywhere.