We all need a neighbor like PewView. I’d feel safer with him in my neighborhood 🙂.

@robertfish4052

6 ай бұрын

Safe, yep. 200%. No bloody peace and quiet on a Sunday morning.

@getsome2038

6 ай бұрын

I’d be to jealous if he didn’t want to be friends.

Love the non condescending direction you have and give excellent advice for shooters new and old. Thank you!

I just like the fact that the premise of the video is you should train with several different firearms and find what works best for you

@PewView

6 ай бұрын

Exactly 🔥

Excellent discussion. What I admire and respect about you sir besides the fact you are an excellent super duper shooter is your humble personality and down to earth attitude. That speaks volumes about you and truely this is why people like you. It’s the right attitude just like Jerry Miculek. Good luck in everything you do

I’ve been following your tips for handgun shooting and dude, I couldn’t miss at the range yesterday, thanks for the awesome content and merry Christmas!

The best way to look at bore axis is in terms of leverage. Some pistols exert more leverage than others even though the amount of energy generated by the round is the same. Some guns are designed to impart more mechanical advantage to the round than others. Simple physics. I used to shoot P226s and 229s a lot. While the amount of energy is the same, muzzle flip is more noticeable with them than guns with a lower bore axis. Training helps a lot. Just realize that over time and firing a lot of rounds, trying to control guns that tend to flip more than others will cause repetitive stress issues to your wrists and elbows. Simple physics. Ask me how I know. :)

I like how you go over muzzle flip vs recoil, good info here!

@TTime685

6 ай бұрын

Muzzle flip is a product of recoil..

It's all about training. I was used to shoot glock, then pick up a p320, and at the beginning it sucked, until I realized that the p320 has much more "room" at the frame, so I can put my support hand higher and a little forward (without interfering in the slide function), compensating the high bore axis and getting more recoil control.

@DinoNucci

6 ай бұрын

The same training with a better gun would be objectively better.

@frankisyourdaddy

6 ай бұрын

​@@DinoNucciwhich better gun would that be? Can't get much better than a Sig, I've owned several P320s and never had an issue other than my thumb keeping the slide lock from engaging. I'm betting you're just an ignorant internet hater.

@Itzryan288

6 ай бұрын

@@frankisyourdaddyThe fact that you think there's nothing better out there than a SIG P320 is crazy​

@coltonwatson4907

6 ай бұрын

just as good derp derp wait till it breaks in half @@frankisyourdaddy

@coltonwatson4907

6 ай бұрын

p320 is dogshit

As much as i love your shorts, these videos are gold. 🙌

I have a P01 that I use to test my new pistols against, site acquisition, recoil control and accuracy. The low bore axis does have a bit of difference.

@vaughnsadekni665

6 ай бұрын

I agree. Guess we are unexperienced lol. Just shoot a gun you shoot well with. I shoot lower bore axis guns better and I just prefer the impulse over guns with bricks for slides.

@locophoto6881

5 ай бұрын

His claim doesn't make sense...it clearly makes the gun flip more when bore axis is higher...which does affect reacquiring the target for subsequent shots, hence the entire reason comps are popular...to minimize muzzle flip and make it it super simple for accurate follow up shots...and the P226 was flipping more...and he admitted he's not as fast....why?...because it takes more time to flip, and then flip down for every round.....P-01 with a comp would be phenomenal....love that pistol :) but have never shot one comped...always wanted to try one comped

I like your honest application and commentary. Your gun handling is also very good. Good video.

I got a cheapo ruger ec9 for my first pistol, and got ok with it, maybe 800rounds, then i got a canik and didnt realize how different each pistol could feel. I was much better with the canik almost immediately. Was able to get to 25 yrds and actually hit the paper lmao. I used to shoot a ton of lever 30-30 when i was younger, and some skeet with my 20g when i was real young, i didnt know how much more difficult a pistol was to shoot well. Its a bucketload of fun, and love the challenge.

I love hearing people talk shit about the 320, then watch it perform well.

Merry Christmas Nick and to your family and friends!!!

@PewView

6 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas man!

First pistol was a low bore axis Steyr L9 because I was recoil sensitive. I still have it but now I'm rocking FNX-45 just because I like 45 ACP feel and the style, despite the bore axis being "higher." Experience and time with the guns make the difference

Yeah man I thought the same thing high bore until I really starting shooting a p320 xfive dh3 then I realized it’s probably one of the most reliable & accurate handguns you can possibly own. 3000rds no cleaning man and it’s still running the same as the first day out the box. Just sayin.

@DinoNucci

6 ай бұрын

One has nothing to do with the other.

@TTime685

6 ай бұрын

So reliable they can choose to shoot by themselves 😂

Love the videos and guns. Need to get some new sunglasses.

I think it can def help make a gun easier to shoot. But it’s a combination. My pmm built p320 is by far my best shooter despite having such a high bore axis.

@randominternetprofile8270

6 ай бұрын

I like my pmm build but recently but a Herrington comp on my scorpion and holy shit that thing is smooth

@ZensivYT

6 ай бұрын

@@randominternetprofile8270 the Herrington one is only one top port where the pmm one is two. I doubt it’d feel better.. I tried the spectre comp p320 and liked the pmm better so sold that

At some point, certain designs lose in the ergonomics department by shoving the hand further and further up and the trigger finger has to reach downward. Some design the trigger differently to adjust for that by changing the path, pulling diagonally up towards the rear sight like Steyr M9 variants. There is a balance in between instead of maxing out just one ability.

Look up what Guntweaks says about bore axis and index alignment. I choose to shoot a completely reliable P320 Max in competition. I also have an occasionally unreliable Alien and a bunch of other very good performance oriented pistols - CZ’s , Walther, Canik, Bul , HK, , S&W etc . IMO , Bore Axis is a minor element in the overall characteristics of a pistol. Lots of other factors come into play , primarily rounds down range.

Your channel growth is amazing.

This is true. I normally compete and run with 115 bulk ammo. A buddy of mine gave me some extremely low recoil powder puff competition loads, and it threw me off big time despite technically being better.

3:50 I wanted to switch my polymer carry for something with a metal frame and now I might just stick with polymer but then again the new Sig p365 AXG with comp is set towards a carry pistol and the specs aren't too bad compared to what I carry now and it has an aluminum frame.

That Apache looks nice can't wait to get mine in

i'm with you, just get out and shoot and figure out what works best for you. rounds down range are the best bet. shooting a lot of different platforms helps too. keep up the hard work and thanks for the content!!

What truly matters is the ability to quickly stack shots on target. Lower bore axis, along with other features can make this easier, but obviously there are plenty of people who can run a 320 very well. I can’t shoot them for shit, I shoot a 365 much better. More recoil, but the dot barely moves.

I love my P320 Spectre Comp with the tungsten infused grip module. She’s nice and heavy. Sig did an awesome job with that infusion. I have a nice size gas pedal on it for more downward front pressure, which makes her run pretty flat. I’m quick with it. But I also have thousands of rounds through her. I’m still quicker with my Staccato P though. 😜

PewView making follow up shots great again.

Does it matter? It's a minor variable in a long list of variables. Caliber, length of barrel and length of slide, weight of slide/barrel/guide rod/frame, grip, stance, ammo type(+p), ammo grain weight, etc etc. Yes it matters, everything matters. Is there an inherent advantage? Depends on the sum of the parts meshing well with the end user interface.

Love the fixed barrel Alien!

Try out a cz p07 tactical a polymer frame with very low bore axis and good trigger, most slept on gun in my opinion

Yea my rival sfx and echelon are virtually the same size but Canik feels softer with more muzzle flip the echelon more felt recoil but flatter. All preference I like shooting the rival more and am quicker/more accurate with it. Trigger plays a part in that though as rival trigger is about the best stock striker fired trigger you can get. The echelon has a very good trigger just not on rivals level.

Ok..Next Year...Jingle Bells(101) and "Silent Night " ..tuned steel targets!....OR...need to get a bunch of Pews together for a full orchestral arrangement!..🤔 MERRY CHRISTMAS PEW ! and Everyone !

Grip design has a lot to do with controlling muzzle flip and recoil on any pistol. A grip with lots of traction for the support hand, both texture and surface area, makes any pistol feel easier to control.

Thank you for the advice and the video info. Can I ask you about your truck the wrap? Where can I purchase it?

IME muzzle flip and felt recoil are related though. All else being equal, less flip equals more recoil felt since the energy that would be pulling that barrel up now goes strait back. Something I never thought about till I got a revolver with adjustable barrel weights and was surprised it hit as hard as it did, although I took advantage of that w/o thinking when shooting big bores. So I'll pass on a 500 made by Chiappa thank you very much :)

@BenfromFlux

6 ай бұрын

You are correct, and revolvers were designed to rotate in ones hand to mitigate that recoil energy. My P365 recoils quite a bit - a lot of energy is transferred into my hands, but the dot barely moves, very little muzzle rise.

Good video. Bore Axis. Another concept for arm chair experts to argue about. Spot on. Doesn’t matter if you know how to shoot “that” gun.

Pissing off 320 guys is hilarious. Every time someone’s having an issue everyone comments “shitty ammo”

This just Made me subscribed.

*Bore axis DOES MATTER. You need SOME. The Laugo Alien demonstrates that.* _We should never aspire to put the recoil directly inline with our arm. It then introduces lateral instability._ When shooting the Alien, the return to POI is 'random'. When you have the bore axis above your arm, your wrist can then moderate just ONE force, upward. And the return is then in one axis. The Alien was one of my worst gun purchases, ever.

@techris45

6 ай бұрын

Let me grab that Alien off ya on the cheap -- little more cash strapped these days since wrapping up my divorce, so help a brother out while also getting from under one of your worst gun purchases... win/win?

Curious what holster you would use for carrying a 2011?

Bro is being humble today!! I don’t believe anyone can out shoot you 😂😂

Can you do a port vs comp video

Matters what you train with.

New sub from France here! 🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🖖🏻

agree, erogs and training beats bore axis , I have all those guns as well and even Alien is not all that it's hyped up to be

I’d like to know who outshoots the hell out of you! 😊

This is what I'm now interested in. Thanx for the video. Got into firearms about 4 years ago. I'm in my 50's. I'm All In now. Safety is #1. Haven't watched a nfl, nba, mlb, or my beloved nhl, in about 2:years. My Sooners and Hawkeyes... eh, once in a while. Much more fun to take my wife, sons, and daughter in law shooting.

@PewView

6 ай бұрын

Love this! Teach them well 🤘

Whatever works for each individual is what matters

Any chance you can walk forward on the range whilst doing the star? Haven't watched all your videos, but do you do shoot any revolvers?

Objectively I would say that if one of the fixes involves ADDING a part to the gun then yes. Bore axis does indeed "matter" a little bit. Squatting 400 pounds also becomes easier if you train. Not sure if that was the question here though.

A Springfield Armory fan, myself.

What jacket are you wearing...super nice

That took care of the ok corral, spaghetti house, entebbe and six more episodes of Robocop. All in ten minutes.

Even though you hate 320s, you admit there are people that shoot them better than you. Impressive. I think that is good advice. Shoot what works best for you.

Can we get a pewveiw on the kimber kds9c?

I wonder how a rotating barrel grand power would compare. Its got a lower bore axis but also might be easier on the wrist

@jknewb6276

6 ай бұрын

That rotating barrel looks interesting, S&W did it as well i think in the 5.7 pistol.

@danielhenderson8316

6 ай бұрын

Beretta has also done it with the Cougar and the PX4 and works great art reducing recoil, but make sure you don't lose the cam when you field strip the gun.

@jknewb6276

6 ай бұрын

@@danielhenderson8316 good to know thanks for the info! I heard the px4 storm should be in everyones collection. Or something like that.

It's all about training... but let me add more aggressive grip panels, or stipple my plastic grip to enhance my grip. It's all about training... but let me add weight the grip section of the gun to increase its inertia. It's all about training... but let me add lightening cuts to the slide and bring down the reciprocating mass, reducing that component of felt recoil. It's all about training... but let me play with the recoil spring to get away with the lightest unit available to reduce the impact on lock-up. It's all about training... but let me add barrel ports, and/or a compensator/brake to take adantage of the high pressure gas, and use it to my benefit. It's all about training... but let me add a flared funnel to my magazine well so I have a better chance of nailing my reload. It's all about training... but let me install a lighter/crisper/ faster trigger for obvious reasons. Hell, I could go on. Is it all about training? Yes, absolutely - duh. However, that fact does not negate the real benefits of those performance based features added to gun. The same goes for bore-axis, which is a more fundamental performance characteristic than anything I listed above. Will a pick up truck beat a sports car around a track? Sure, if a pro driver is behind the wheel of the truck, and a total amature is driving the sports car. However nobody can deny that given equal drivers, the sports car will beat the truck around the track. Same goes for two guns and their bore-axis.

Well that was a lovely video to watch first thing in the morning. Sooothing

Do you think you'll try the new archon type B that's coming out?

Hello, thank you for informative and interesting video. 🥰

Contrary to popular belief, the Sig 226 is damn near the same bore axis to the CZ 75. This was measured on camera with calipers on a KZread [kzread.info/dash/bejne/jI6hzMp7kbC3ntI.htmlsi=6zeADTYn5ukJGpDl] channel.

Second. Just found you and love your videos. Also managed to get one of the last 1911 Apaches you made!

@PewView

6 ай бұрын

You’re going to love it! 🔥

When are you gonna be on a podcast man?

P. S. P226 is the GOAAAATTTT

Ffin good video.

I wanna see you run a 10mm. You're saying "slow" and I'm still impressed.

Does bore axis make a difference? Yes. Is it enough to matter? Mostly no. Is it something that you can train around? Definitely. Is it something you should worry about? Only if you're a competitive shooter and you can actually make use of the 0.001 split times it may change.

Bore axis vs action... my Beretta M9A3 has a high bore axis but shoots flat for me due to the breech-locking action.

Some psychology and perception to it as well, plus there's a difference between an experienced shooter and somebody that gets paid to shoot a lot - if you like the way the gun shoots (feels in your hand, how it acts), you'll shoot it better. To me the low bore axis guns are more easily controllable, and that comes out more with things that have more recoil than a 9mm. My 10mm 1911s and G20s are nicer to shoot than my Sig P220 10mm (tho the Sig is my favorite in that caliber - Sig always has nice ergos), the Sig flips more than the other two. I haven't seen it done on video yet, but I would bet money that a Chiappa Rhino can be ran quickly, more accurately than comparable-length 'standard' 357s due to the low muzzle flip and the direction of the felt recoil.

Quick question: what are your 2 most accurate guns? i ask to shoot in accuracy standing 25 yards centerfire tournaments. i'dont care about caliber. Thanks in advance.

Low bore axis is just a luxury and it looks cool

0:46 is the moment I liked the video. I wonder if he can see that

Question. What jacket is that your wearing?

*Revolvers avoiding eye contact.

Yes, the Bore Axis certainly does effect the efficiency of operation!! It's not rocket science!!😉🤣👊

Would have liked to see a timer to see your splits and bill drill times. This is subjective but what really matters is time on your gun. I bet with enough time you could get pretty proficient with a hi point talk about bore axis lol

@danielhenderson8316

6 ай бұрын

TheHumbleMarksman has a video on his channel where he does just that.

Thoughts on new Archon?

What the point of compensator then?

I love how he says he can't shoot a 320, then casually runs it better than I ever could.

👍

Can you show me your grip on both sides please again.

No Hudson H9? 😮

Low bore axis guns will wear out your wrists faster but feel less flippy. High bore axis guns will feel more flippy but are easier on your wrists over time

What’s your thoughts on a fn 509 tactical?

We need a best clips of 2023 video!!!

Hey man! Really enjoy your videos. I am a new(er) shooter and have some sort of severe hand and wrist injuries that make my grip weak and gives me shooting nerve pain when i get my suppoet hand into a proper position. Can you recommend a setup that will help with muzzle flip as much as possible? Hope to regain hand strength and stability some day, but its a long journey. Looking to be able to carry, and have shorter fingers. Thinking either a cr920p or a mete mc9. Maybe a small 1911? Think micro comps are worth it?

@m4rvinmartian

6 ай бұрын

Yes. A tuned 1911. Professionally tuned, the slide inertia is modified. Chambered in 9mm, and then run Liberty Ammo, Civil Defense. It's a light grain bullet, very little recoil. This will still give you a very effective gun that you can use for self defense.

@AllThingsFascinate

6 ай бұрын

@@m4rvinmartian Thanks for the recommendation! Do you mean taking a 1911 to a gunsmith to be tuned, or buying something like a Dan Wesson? Interested in learning whether 1911 or the compensated plastic fantastics will feel better. Really love both. Though I will say, carrying appendix, the beaver tail on my little p238 is a little stabby 🤣

Just also figured out that the alien is also a gas delayed system and it really seems to take the snap out of things and the bore axis is just a smart way to use the gas delayed system without it looking like a yeet canon 😂 the bore axis was a product of engineering and design not the sole purpose of the pistol….. weird right? We all know it as the low bore axis pistol but not a modern day gas delayed pistol kinda cool

How many shots before a pistol barrel is used up? Generally speaking.

Did you know that sig offered to do a ful funded investigation into that discharge you mentioned? The department declined because like thousands of other cheap Departments, they manipulated a glock holster to force a sig to fit, via dremmeling, meling plastic to make trigger housing retention work, ect. The hell do you expect? Now the drop safety issue... that was a real problem. Funny that you didn't mention it was iroed out within the first generation.... lol This brings me back to the "goes off on its own" idea, How many civilians have had this problem😮 none😂. Only police departments that want to cram a sig into a glock holster and save 50$😂

It's just simple physics...but if you can't grip it well, how can you rip it? Isn't CZ Shadow the of OG of low boar axis, plus their grip ergos are good too, how many clones are in production?

Lucas did a pretty damn good job of showing how bore axis doesn't matter, and how time with a platform matters more. I don't recommend the P320 purely based on the safety concerns. There are people who have 10's of thousands of rounds through theirs and no issues, but there are other pistols I would look at before grabbing a P320 (even though I find the P320 easy to shoot).

Good video. You like the 320 deeeeeeep down tho it seems

@PewView

6 ай бұрын

Don’t say that 🤫😂

@jeremyread261

6 ай бұрын

@@PewView Its fine I wont tell anyone your secret 🤣 Merry Christmas brutha

Bro get your hands on an Atlas gunworks nyx or athena for review

Didn’t they fix the p320 AD problem like 3 years ago?

What camera are you using for the first person shots? Love the vids bro

@PewView

6 ай бұрын

Only the most expensive high tech gear you can find on the market. An iPhone 14 😂

@TIDALFALL

6 ай бұрын

@@PewView "Sales in iPhone 14s spike overnight" 🤣

We need an official name for your high left grip style so think one up and get back to us cheers

Oh c'mon we all saw how fast where the shots and how tight was the group with the Alien. Bore axis dose matter🤠

Trust me. As a Walther PDP guy: there’s so much HATE surrounding the “high bore axis” but I can shoot one better than a Glock. I have the groups to prove it. People will blame everything except their grip and fundamentals. 🤷🏾‍♂️

That cop did not have that pistol holster all the way