Does having more than 4.8 SEXUAL PARTNERS lead to a LESS HAPPY MARRIAGE?
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In this video I'll be examining the viral video claim that "more sexual partners leads to a less happy marriage."
00:00 Intro / Viral Video Quote - “More sexual partners = lowered marital happiness”
00:38 What The Science
00:44 The 4 components of her question
01:40 Debunking Claim #1 - Excessive Specificity
01:54 1a - Does it Make Sense? - Fermi Estimate
02:41 1b - What’s her source?
03:15 The Book of Charts
03:42 No “more than 5 guys” drop
04:27 Why more people in “stable marriages” had fewer sexual partners
04:52 Stable vs Happy Marriage
05:10 Is her source reliable?
05:54 Other Sources - a much smaller correlation
06:40 Debunking Claim #2 - Men vs Woman
07:09 Raw number of “unhappy” marriages, regardless of partner count
07:26 Claim #3 - Correlation vs Causation
08:16 Confounding Variables: Religion
09:21 Debunking #4 - The Reason
09:40 Data on impact of religion, $, ethnicity, etc
09:58 Another Study on Sexual Partners vs Relationship Variables
10:26 Pairbonding
11:12 Explaining the Correlation
12:20 Recap
13:44 Outro
🔗 LINKS CITED IN THIS VIDEO🔗
Original Viral KZread Video - • Video
Original TikTok Video - www.tiktok.com/@pewistoo/vide...
Heritage Foundation Book of Charts - www.heritage.org/education/re...
Heritage Foundation Article - www.heritage.org/life/comment...
IFS Blog Post - ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexua...
Fermi Problems - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_p...
STUDIES
📚 Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution Among Women - doi.org/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2...
📚Does premarital cohabitation increase the likelihood of future marital dissolution? - link.springer.com/article/10....
📚 Sowing wild oats: Valuable experience or a field full of weeds? - doi.org/10.1111/pere.12009
📚A Longitudinal Study of Marital Problems and Subsequent Divorce - doi.org/10.2307/353949
📚Is it the sex, the romance, or the living together? The differential impact of past sexual, romantic, and cohabitation histories on current relationship functioning. -doi.org/10.1037/cfp0000117
CDC National Survey of Family Growth - www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/index.htm
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this is the first time i’ve ever gone to someone’s youtube channel from a tiktok. you did a really good job and kept interesting!
@DistilledScience
Жыл бұрын
Aww thanks! That means a lot! 😊
@TheNayalin
Жыл бұрын
Me too lol
@dianamartin8934
Жыл бұрын
Same!!
@joquezada2796
Жыл бұрын
Same!!!!
@shellyd0272
Жыл бұрын
Same!!!!
So basically: there is a correlation but its to a lesser extent than what she said.
@itsrando3923
Жыл бұрын
correct its roughly 75 percent to 50 percent
Yesssss! I love deep dives and debunk videos 🤩🤩 I'd like to see more debunk on purity culture 😃
@col2959
Жыл бұрын
Yesssssssssssssssssssss I lalalalala love themmmmmmmmm
I’m really enjoying the long form format! Very excited to see more!
This was amazing and I’m honestly excited to see what you’ll do in the future. Your ability to breakdown how data is interpreted is some thing I’m looking forward to better educate myself.
All of the high body count heauxs are like, "Yes!!! There's still hope for me out there." Nah heaux, you're f*cked and even you know it.
Another possible confounding factor could be as simple as personality or even presence of ADHD. If you have ADHD you are more likely to have a larger number of sexual partners, and you are also more likely to go through marital issues, both caused independently by things like high impulsivity. Or you could generally have a personality in which you get bored easily with your partners. But yeah so many plausible confounding factors linked to the correlation it's comical to say definitely more partners directly causes worse marital outcomes
@DistilledScience
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! There are so many factors that could lead BOTH to more premarital partners AND to more difficult marriages that saying that the mere act of sleeping with more people CAUSES the later marital difficulties is quite a bold claim. One that needs significant evidence 😉
@Angelica4Equity
Жыл бұрын
Even if this WAS the case...If sleeping with more people means your marriage is bad perhaps it's because you know you deserve better since you've experienced it
@dianed4938
Жыл бұрын
Also living with someone with ADHD can make you second guess wanting to get married to them 😂😂 (no offence to my boyfriend, but close the goddamn lid!) 😂
@jackdeniston59
Жыл бұрын
sooo....it is still correct, regardless of why.
@rebeccasuraci7666
9 ай бұрын
Everything. Depression anxiety asd etc
I can't help but notice that when a woman with a high body count is with a man who is inexperienced (virgin to low), she (usually) gets bored with him. Also, he doesn't get the same treatment as the players that she was with before got. Also, I keep noticing that women with more of a past tend to be more jaded. When they finally settle for the boring, stable, provider guy, they expect him to atone for the sins of the bad boys. I tend to suspect that women with a high body count who marry men with a high body count are probably more likely to be happy.
Love this video, honestly. Found you on tiktok on my fyp, and really looking forward for more videos like this. I like the objective cold facts that can destroy or sustain arguments. Congrats!
Interesting how most of the comments are woman agreeing. Do they think the men like it when woman have huge partner amounts? Is there NO un-favorable traits that arise from high partner count?
@SonGoku-zr9nc
Жыл бұрын
The are just agreeing to continue being promiscious 304s
@sparshcastic
4 ай бұрын
@@SonGoku-zr9nc why dont you ask men to stop being promiscious ? will solve all the problems
@patrickudekwe
3 ай бұрын
@@sparshcasticgo ask them yourself, don't u have mouth?
@sparshcastic
3 ай бұрын
@@patrickudekwe i do
@patrickudekwe
3 ай бұрын
@@sparshcastic very good
Love this long form content, keep it up!
@DistilledScience
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That’s the plan going forward 😄! Even if it takes sooo much longer to write / film / edit 🙈
My new favorite series!! Loved this!
Hi, I’m going on pearls show tonight and the topic of show is “modern women cheat more than men”, so I’ve just been doing research into some of her claims and found your video. Thank you so much for making this, I hope you don’t mind me using this information tonight with credit of course, but you’ve answered and linked so many things I have been questioning ever since I watched that particular clip too!
@DistilledScience
Жыл бұрын
Hey there, glad to hear that this helped! And even more glad to hear that someone is actually doing proper research before one of these conversations 👏😀
Love this!! Definitely subscribed. Excited to see more!!!
I loved this!!! Please do more🥰 I absolutely adore and appreciate the detail!!❤❤❤
This was so great! Definitely keep it up please!!!
The first one ? This was wonderful! Keep them coming
id never seen your stuff before you showed up on my fyp, so i came here! love the long video 👍 very easily understood
this is a really good video, i thought that u have 1.73m subs, but its only 1.73k, u deserve much more
Very interesting! Glad I subscribed to you a month ago!
I knew her comment didn’t sit right with me! Thank you for the video!!
I really enjoyed this, it was very educational! Thank you for making this video! :)
Keep them coming, excellent video.
5:05 The chart even contradicts the description, which says the chart covers “all sexually active women,” while the side of the chart itself indicates “sexually active women between the ages of 15 and 45.”
Omg! Thank you for making this. My friend sent me this video and I knew this woman was full of it. I’ve heard this stat before but I knew her explanation was totally wrong.
Thank you for this. I had never heard any of this before. I'm a pretty sex positive guy and I met a guy recently who said something about pair bonding to me the other day and said it was scientific fact lol. I didn't argue with him because I was studying for my physics exam but I felt like it couldn't be true. It was really hard to find your video amidst all the Jordan Peterson, Pearl Daily, and manosphere stuff. Again thanks
EXCELLENT video. Eagerly anticipating your future work, but of course make sure to rest!
This was great. Please do more deep dives and debunk videos on similar social media vids
@Lantern66
Жыл бұрын
Including topics such as the alpha, and beta crap, which reminds me of people who think they're furries or people relating heavily to astrology.
Liked. Shared. Subscribed. Please keep posting longer videos. Thanks.
Just found this channel its amazing!
Great video, glad I found you
I really enjoyed the long form video
Thank you!!!! I’m a social worker and value true social research!! I hate when “research” is butchered and altered to fit a philosophy. Thank you for demonstrating everything wrong with this claim. ❤
@user-vc1sg8ii1k
11 ай бұрын
Women responded as usual
thank you so much for this video. this is REALLY important as I only prefer to debunk claims if I have a scientific basis for that and know what I'm talking about. I think nowadays sharing science is extremely important.
@raffptor
7 ай бұрын
also can I translate your video for free? I'd be more than happy to! I've been an English teacher for over 8 years in Brazil and worked as an intern translator.
Love it!! ❤
I think that woman got her story, from the book "rational male" by Tollo Tomassi. Maybe that book mentioned sources, or maybe not. I dunno.
An important topic, but I was left with the impression that the debunking was more important than the underlying facts. I would like to see more studies like this to get to the truth. There is something very significant in keeping sex for monogamous marriage. All the civilisations that have risen have had strict monogamy and have controlled the sexual behaviour of the women (J D Unwin, Sex and Culture)
i love that u can tell that u filmed this for tik tok too, are u just doing completely separate edits for each?
@DistilledScience
Жыл бұрын
For this one yes, although I’m reconsidering for the future. The editing takes way longer than the filming!
Please don't stop doing videos like this one
Thanks for finding that chart. I'd already found the graph you show in your video. Chart 15 showing % sexually active women as a function of non-marital sex partners has a rather obvious "cause and effect issue". This is the "cause" of an increase in on marital partners is having sex when you are not married. The denominator is "all sexually active women over 30". So, given that, the question is what number of lifetime marriage? Or number of sexual partners. Clearly, "sexually active" women over 30 who are NOT married are very likely to be accumulating non-marital sexual partners and have been since they became sexually. In contrast, women who get married and remain married mostly do not accumulate non-marital sexual partners. ( Having a non-marital sexual partner while married generally results in divorce.) So the "correlation" between "Not being in a stable marriage" and "having more nonmarital sexual partners" must be pushed toward positive for this reason. (And so "being in a stable marriage" and "having more nonmarital sexual partners" negative.) But this is not because having more sexual partners makes marriage less stable, but because being in a long term marriage reduced non-marital sexual partners! Could having more sexual partners ALSO reduce marital bliss and stability? Sure. It's not an either or thing. But the metric illustrated in this particular graph is singularly deficient in teasing that out -- because there is a very obvious casual effect of *stable marriage* reduce the accumulation of *number of non-marital sexual partners* over time.
@lucialiljegren
Жыл бұрын
Yep... if N is number of non-marital sexual partners and X stable marriage: P(X|N) = P(N|X) * P(X)/P(N). So if the number of non-marital partners is larger for the unmarried than for the married (because they are, ahem, unmarried) then chart 15 will heve the general appearnce it has. (I'm a bit motivated to get the data and find P(N|X) and compare to (P(N|!X).
We live in a stage "post factum"This is a great video ☝️. Keep up the good work. 🤞Pls can you direct me to the source video ?Only for study purposes & and broadening horizons.Thx
@DistilledScience
Жыл бұрын
Sure! There's the link to it at the end of the first section in the article here: distilledscience.xyz/articles/does-having-more-sexual-partners-lower-your-chance-of-a-happy-marriage
I don't understand the point of the graph.. what were they trying to figure out?
Excellent video
U did not debunk her, u just proved her claim to be milder than she claimed. And a rebuttal to this video will show many places where u were biased. Also pearl many times mentioned that virgin men also have the highest odds of a happy marriage. Which u skipped.
@myronbourne6937
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@krunchykrystal
Жыл бұрын
No. Just….god no. Do you know how much money my couples have shelled out in couples therapy just for me to have to explain why all these podcasts and dating “coaches” are wrong? It wastes time and distracts from the actual work that couples need to do in relationship therapy. I’m tired of having to take valuable session time to correct the messages that all of these unqualified, entitled, arrogant, and bigoted people are spewing out to millions of people who don’t understand how research works and take everything as fact as long as it fits an agenda. Grow up. Podcasts like these are causing more ruin to both relationships and individual people and I’m sick of their fans doubling down. If you want to live in ignorance cool. But don’t go harming other people with the bigoted bullshit.
I think most men have heard horror stories of a man being a good provider, but his wife just can't seem to get over one of her exes. I will say, that one of the most toxic things a person can do in a relationship is to constantly compare their current partner with previous partners. There is the whole concept of being "Alpha Widowed" where a woman had a relationship, sometimes very brief, with another man who was more attractive, desired, and dominant than the men she can get to commit to her in the present. The most prominent example of this is Jada Pinkett and Will Smith. Their daughter, Willow, actually wrote a letter to Tupac Shakur asking him to come back so that her mother could be happy again. That's an astonishingly high level of cuckery. I think a lot of men are afraid of ending up married to a woman like that. It shoudl be noted that a woman having a low body count or even being a virgin on her wedding night does demonstrate a fair amount of discipline. If a woman is promiscuous then it's not entirely unreasonable to wonder how she will have the discipline to stay faithful to one man over decades.
@alicialarson3161
11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Tupac died in 1996, four years before Willow was born. Also this statistic is true for men not just women. I think you need to watch this again and pay closer attention.
LOVE this topic thank you for covering it and shutting these prudes down haha Love the long form hope for me
@aeganratheesh
Жыл бұрын
There is no hope for you
I’d love to see u debate her
Certified data male 👍 love the video man
Man i love this content, please keep it up as im willing to watch more of this :)
The memes and sound effects are distracting dawg
I love this
It's a convincing argument, that the more sexual partners one has: the less likely you are to have a lifelong marriage. Because sleeping around, displays an inability to commit to one person.
Dude, you're super cool. Came from tiktok and enjoyed
A lot of this was fair, and far more fair than I first expected when I listened and gave it a chance. What I would really appreciate however, is an example whereby you ask if a liberal source "might have an agenda to push". Id love to be proven wrong in my suspicion that there is no such example.
I freaking love you!
My female friend M stated to me that her now ex husband was sexual partner number 7 when she met him at age 21. My 2 male friends M and C have wives that never had sex and they married mid to late 20’s and are still together. No real strife at all. Just regular ups and downs. My female friend M to me has no love for her ex. Not hate, but no love and they were together for 20 yrs basically.
I'm a 35 year old virgin. Mostly, because I couldn't take the new wave of sexual freedom. I am not married, and I'm not happy at all.
there it is. Peer review journal. Who decides what belongs as a peer review journal? Consensus isn't science. Just the facts please.
Awesome analysis! Love this! Please make more! Science is fucking cool!!!!! Love, love, love things being broken down and seeking data to support! This video is great because it doesn’t pick a side it just shows us how to digest all the bullshit that can be out there to make an informed opinion about it.
Love to see actual logic and science
This guy just said that more sexual partners lead to worse marriage. Fact that more sexual partners isn't the root couse, but not having your head srewed right doesn't matter.
Thank you for doing such important work. Purity culture BS is not science
YES good communication and good sex is the key to a happy marriage. 🥰
Nice explenagtion! With the religion part, I'd also add that women who are virgins or who have less partners are more likely to be religious, so that likely is the reason why such women are less likely to divorce and more likely to stay in a committed relationship Ultimately, I think the biggest issue that guys who insist that women be virgins though don't apply the standard to themselves ignore the fact if are being promiscuous themselves, they're going to most likely attract people who have a similar lifestyle. Since the women they want (usually traditional Christian virgins) are usually religious, they'll typically want a guy who is saving himself for marriage
Your attitude towards the subject matter is scientific? I guess it will resound with the female viewers who are living the modern free woman life the person is talking about. Good luck you may win a few
So you never debunked the correlation that more sex for women equates to less stable and happy relationships . You just said there was a correlation.
Bro you need at least a million subscribers. People need to share the hell out of your page on their own social media Facebook and stuff. This is real education. Not that conservative culture pseudo intellectual bullshit
Hey what if a girl collects marriage proposals and filters those proposals. After weeding out the proposals and chooses the right guy for marriage, will she just keep comparing the guy with all the other proposals. Is this comparable to having multiple sex partners? Can the girl still pair bond with her husband?
I saw another youtuber accurately find her source. 2015 and 2020 info. Your research is so off, hence your video is all wrong.
@Y0u-R0ck
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/fniTp8qAlaudo5c.html
Pearl is notorious for this. I’m still trying to decide if she’s intentionally misrepresenting the data and studies she “cites” or if she just regurgitating things she’s heard other people say and takes as fact. The way she uses casual and scientific terms interchangeably tells me she hasn’t actually parsed through the data herself to make sense of it
@beianimeyah24
Жыл бұрын
I know for sure us smart enough men still understood what she meant when she said unhappy marriages, we definitely thought of (likely to get divorced) he took everything literal with the happiness which is good, but that jus helps men to makes us more aware of women with high body counts, which is what I came to watch
@bigboma
Жыл бұрын
@@beianimeyah24 you don’t get to claim to be the side of “facts over feelings” if your facts aren’t right. We’re not here for emotional pats on the back. We’re here to ground our thoughts and actions in reality. The second you let is slide on your slide you give ground to the opposition to do the same.
@beianimeyah24
Жыл бұрын
@@bigboma well I get to claim, that I’m on the side that is more likely correct than siding with those foolish women who come on the podcast, Pearl is more likely to be be closer to the the correct answer maybe not accurately but more than the women she goes up against, this guy jus shows how close she is to the accurate answer, so in that saying, are you gonna you vouch for someone who’s more likely to be right or more likely to be wrong? That’s if you were watching pearls original video and taking a side?
@bigboma
Жыл бұрын
@@beianimeyah24 this is middle school level critical thinking. so you’re okay with using the same logic and the same tactics as the women you criticize? That’s on you. I’d that rather be factually correct and prove it, then just have an opinion because it makes me feel good. I don’t have to choose who’s “more than likely to be right” when I can just be right. Pearl chose a conclusion you agree with but supported it with misrepresented, non peer reviewed information. Which means she didn’t actually prove anything. And he dismantles it in this video. How about do the intellectual leg work And support your opinions and conclusions with data that actually backs up how you feel?
So as a scienctist you think that men and women are the same? I'm getting very strong social science vibes from you bro. Maybe even gender studies!
🤔 🤔🤔 if your content is so good.. why is your views and subscriptions so low…
Great job attempting to destroy the legitimate point she’s trying to make, Dr. Dipsh1t. 🤪
Instant sub!!
Im excited for some more long form deep dives! Great when sexist “facts” are debunked
thank you
All wrong, pair bonding is real and more sexual partners means less wife material. Facts
@SonGoku-zr9nc
Жыл бұрын
Ikr the only people denying this are fminists, 304s and s,imps
@sarahelizabeth2359
Жыл бұрын
Marry who you want, just don’t pretend it’s based in science
So humans are not animals. That isn't scientific accurate and here you are calling out Pearl, not being a scientist
Another factor could be that men don't want to date hoes. While women don't really care about body count. So women tend to lie about their body count and eitherway that becomes an issue. So it might have nothing to do with "pair bonding", but more with what people desire in a partner. Also, you just debunked every social study out there.
Really think a lot of people watching this just getting their confirmation biases spoon fed to them.
You can’t rule it out. You should change your conclusions to - there isn’t any studies done to verified the video claims. So your explanations are just as good as hers
The lady that's lying has a fun little song blaming Jewish people for the holocaust, so she's extremely terrible for multiple reasons
The people who need to see this will all refuse to watch
Ahhh, congratulations for managing to debunk noone. I was interested to see how wrong she was and the only thing you did was confirm her message. More than anything this video is an embarrassment to science
😂😂😂
Correlation = causality, right?? Right? Nope.
2k views with 700 subs? bro subscribe to this guy right now!
The people who believe that the tools they learn to criticize journal articles, from simple correlation is not causation, to p-hacking their data, are the only esteemed methods of epistemology are the same idiots who wouldn’t bring a parachute to a skydiving jump due to a lack of doubled blind randomized studies 😂
Prove her wrong bud, marry a 304.
how can you compare someone that you had a 1 night stand with to some you dated lmao
I have a question. Why do people still have sex? Sex is very gross, nasty, messy, and disgusting! I don't see how sex is a good thing. Why don't humans just remove sex from this world? Women can still get pregnant without sex (there's a lot of ways women can get pregnant without sex including artificial insemination). Sex does cause a lot of problems, so the world might be a much better place without it.
Her data is coming from multiple sources including the heritage group but also physiology today and institute for family planning. This I'd a disingenuous unscientific debunk video.
This man red pill the red pill.
She's just a pick-me girl. Her whole thing is bashing women and praising men.
thank you