Does Anyone Really Care if Scotland Leaves the UK?

Scottish independence has been on the table long before the UK decided to leave the European Union. And since then things have only gotten worse! Can Scotland leave the United Kingdom & what would that look like?
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Time Stamps:
0:00 - The United Kingdom is in a state of chaos!
1:20 - The Union of Great Britain
2:23 - WTF is devolution?
3:01 - The rise of Scottish independence
3:50 - The Scottish devolution referendum of 1979
4:38 - Is Scotland being suppressed by Westminster?
5:05 - The Scottish devolution referendum of 1997
5:49 - The SNP's push Scottish independence
7:00 - Brexit (in 30 seconds)
7:33 - The aftermath...
9:00 - What happens if Scotland leaves the UK?
11:46 - Is there a clear path to Scottish independence?
#scotland #independence #unitedkingdom

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  • @Faultlinevideos
    @Faultlinevideos Жыл бұрын

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  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un

    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un

    Жыл бұрын

    Korean unification

  • @patmacaleenan

    @patmacaleenan

    Жыл бұрын

    What if the north separated? I mean there’s a party for Northern Independence that’s pretty adamant it’d be a good move, they have some interesting suggestions

  • @hugoponders

    @hugoponders

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Great Britain not the island, not the union of Scotland and England?

  • @lachlanmg7762

    @lachlanmg7762

    Жыл бұрын

    Your research regarding the beginnings of the political movement for Scottish independence should have gon much further back. The founding of the SNL was merely the first time that the Scottish independence movement advocates separated themselves from the Labour party apparatus. Until that time, political agitators for Scottish home rule had been members of the Labour or Liberal party largely. Robert Bontine Cunninghame-Graham was one of the founders of the Labour party alongside Kier Hardie, and the first openly socialist Member of Parliament in 1886. He has been systematically written out of Labour party history because of his later association with socialism and Scottish nationalism. After the founding of the SNL in 1923, Graham decided to leave the Labour party to help in the founding of the NPS in 1928 and then the SNP in 1932. He is one of the most overlooked important people in history, having been shunted aside in favour of Kier Hardie, a centrist preacher who fit the bill of a public figure far more neatly.

  • @andyf10

    @andyf10

    Жыл бұрын

    How about 'is there anything actually in the Good Friday Agreement' that prevents a hard border in Northern Ireland. (Clue: no) But we are told that there is. You'd have to read the agreement of course...

  • @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14
    @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14 Жыл бұрын

    Brexiteers be like "every country deserves the right to self-determination and to be free from parliaments that don't represent them" but not when Scotland wants to do it 😶

  • @ToastieBRRRN

    @ToastieBRRRN

    Жыл бұрын

    Bit of a generalisation. What about Scottish Brexiteers?

  • @OnlyGrafting

    @OnlyGrafting

    Жыл бұрын

    Scotland doesn't want to do it. Over half of voters vote for unionist parties. The polls show more favour for remain constantly. Hell, the devolved government in Holyrood KNEW they couldn't hold a referendum as it wasn't a devolved power and still make a big fuss over it. Democracy is pointless if you strong-arm a vote through illegally with less than half of public support until you've indoctrinated kids that come outta their SNP controlled education and vote at 16 enough to sway it.

  • @rodmarker2071

    @rodmarker2071

    Жыл бұрын

    \Nailed it - bunch of Hypocrites with a capital H

  • @calmacmcc6949

    @calmacmcc6949

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rodmarker2071 Scottish Brexiteers are a few right wing nutters that celebrate a British King imported from the Netherlands and still think Catholic people support the pope uneducated bullshit

  • @Cygnus888

    @Cygnus888

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ToastieBRRRN What about this 49% that voted to stay in EU?

  • @heronimousbrapson863
    @heronimousbrapson863 Жыл бұрын

    If England were to get their own subnational government as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland now have, the UK could become a true federation like the US, Canada and Australia. The parliament in Westminster would then become a federal government overseeing only those affairs of national interest.

  • @davidlally592

    @davidlally592

    Жыл бұрын

    Long long overdue. A federal UK :5 national (not 4) Nat Parliaments (England has two: Gtr London is one and then the rest of England has a different one). Nat parliaments are not in the main city (the US State capital idea) - separation of powers. So Dungannon for NI, Inverness for Scot, Aberystwyth for Wales and York for England. Gtr London of course is London- as federal capital. Most govt items are devolved to the 5. Only trans UK matters remain with the UK Fed Govt: currency, Crown and succession, Fed income tax (Nat Parliaments could introduce a Nat income tax), immigration, defence, customs. Commons reduced (now only handling Fed UK matters) to about 200 members. House of Lords- acts as 2nd Chamber to both Nat Parls and to(now) reduced UK Fed Commons.Lords reformed to about 240 (with 6 diff groupings- 40 in each). NatParls nominate 1 group, Co councils another, business another, science/education another, arts and humanities another and finally (6th one) by ballot amongst them, the eligible existing hereditary Lords

  • @anotherone66

    @anotherone66

    Жыл бұрын

    This was supposed to happen, I can't remember why it was stopped.

  • @DJB2

    @DJB2

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d vote for this if it were on the table, but it’s just not going to happen.

  • @mywestsussex5749

    @mywestsussex5749

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree the English have never been truly represented as a country

  • @berty1422

    @berty1422

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup, England needs to be controlled by Brussels. Brussels hold the purse strings and limits the growth of the UK, keep England down. Only give it enough for life support, and reap the benefits from its economy. All EU law take precedence over any local English laws. There is NO control over your borders, you do not have a say in how your border is defined. Only Brussels can decide your border policing with their own border force. But most of all, the Isle of Dogs is where all EU nuclear waste is stored.

  • @cybergrandadgaming
    @cybergrandadgaming Жыл бұрын

    The thing that almost everyone forgets about this, David Cameron promised Scotland that there would be NO referendum on EU membership if they remained part of the UK.

  • @garethbuckeridge6910

    @garethbuckeridge6910

    Жыл бұрын

    Funny that as David Cameron also said that if the Tories won a majority in the 2015 general election then he would offer the UK a referendum on Europe? Either duel standards or somebody being economical of the truth..... 🤣

  • @cybergrandadgaming

    @cybergrandadgaming

    Жыл бұрын

    @@garethbuckeridge6910 he's a Tory. Probably just pure bullshit out of him on both occasions, but got forced in to the referendum by the back benchers

  • @therealjetlag

    @therealjetlag

    Жыл бұрын

    A Tory MP telling a lie?

  • @mariannehancock8282

    @mariannehancock8282

    Жыл бұрын

    Did he? Well, he was a liar who also persecuted the vulnerable and disabled, and began to destroy the NHS and public services. Why put any trust in this lazy, arrogant and dishonest man?

  • @geroutathat

    @geroutathat

    Жыл бұрын

    The English always forget promises.

  • @allanlock4561
    @allanlock4561 Жыл бұрын

    I'm from England I have Scottish heritage i dont care if they leave or stay its Scotlands choice

  • @wardenblack9734

    @wardenblack9734

    Жыл бұрын

    The question is bigger than your brief summary.

  • @allanlock4561

    @allanlock4561

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wardenblack9734 what ever you say I bet your one of those people who could start a fight in an empty house if the Scottish want to leave they can leave end of story

  • @kurtpunchesthings2411

    @kurtpunchesthings2411

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wardenblack9734 it really is not that deep it's a fact that most English people truly could not give 2 shits if Scotland left the UK or stayed in it

  • @Timmeh551

    @Timmeh551

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed@@kurtpunchesthings2411

  • @amandarichardson9836

    @amandarichardson9836

    3 ай бұрын

    And we voted NO in 2014 but they still won't shut up

  • @MrDino1953
    @MrDino1953 Жыл бұрын

    If Scotland leaves the UK, there will be nothing to keep Loch Ness from just being part of the Atlantic Ocean, so the monster will escape. We cannot risk that happening.

  • @lolaminnit

    @lolaminnit

    Жыл бұрын

    ach we'll just build a mahoosive big net and string it across the loch. that'll keep Nessie in and the Atlantic prowlers oot!

  • @nickmonks9563

    @nickmonks9563

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm pro independence, but if there's any argument that could convince me otherwise, this one is the most logical.

  • @Wishmaster787

    @Wishmaster787

    Жыл бұрын

    Let the Norwegians deal with it

  • @tomdoodey4136

    @tomdoodey4136

    Жыл бұрын

    Not but the oil Scottish no English and they can go back EUROPE

  • @michaelmclean5088

    @michaelmclean5088

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad u brought that 2 world attention. Nessy would go on a rampage

  • @mikethespike7579
    @mikethespike7579 Жыл бұрын

    It is illusionary to believe that the border between and independent Scotland and England would remain as open as it is today without border checks and passport controls. As England diverges its economy from the EU while Scotland draws its economy closer, border checks will become unavoidable.

  • @Psyk60

    @Psyk60

    Жыл бұрын

    They could probably keep the border open for movement of people. So you can travel across the border without a passport, just as you can between Ireland and Northern Ireland. But yes, goods won't be able to flow freely. There will need to be customs/regulatory checks if Scotland joins the EU and England stays out. Edit - It seems some people have misunderstood me. I'm saying there *will* have to be a hard border, but just for goods. You have to understand that is a separate thing to passport controls. You can have a customs border without passport controls. The EU does not strictly require external borders have passport checks, that's only if the country is part of Schengen. Which several EU members are not, including Ireland.

  • @jackdeegan3617

    @jackdeegan3617

    Жыл бұрын

    You should tell the crowd in Westminster about the border, because they think that the border between the EU and Britain should be wide open.

  • @rorykeegan1895

    @rorykeegan1895

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Psyk60 But Brexiteers love more paperwork and red tape, they thrive on it, and call it productivity. Brexiteers would just love to put a border around every town in the UK.

  • @astrothsknot

    @astrothsknot

    Жыл бұрын

    they would have to have a hard border, because that's WTO rules. I see a common travel area thing like with Eire. I'll be interested what they do with Nationality - will all those born before separation be entitles to British passports, or will it only be people with an actual English/Welsh/N Irish parent or grandparent. I will be entitled on both counts - I'm Scots, but have an English father and would claim my UK as well as my Scots passport, because I can. I work in England a lot, so dual nationality would be useful. My son can claim his British passport from his grandad, but has said he won't. he's Scottish and doesn't need to be British. I don't identify as English or British, but if i have the right to something, I'll claim it.

  • @baxtardboy

    @baxtardboy

    Жыл бұрын

    A common travel area is not a problem unless the Governments on either side decide to make it one. Trade would require a hard border but Scotland has reached the point where this isn't a good enough argument to sway the Yes voters. Scotland will gladly take the hit.

  • @w.vanherk2946
    @w.vanherk2946 Жыл бұрын

    Before using the argument that Scotland would be better protected by being part of the UK on account of Trident, it would've been worthwhile to see how this view is perceived in Scotland. Trident is hugely unpopular and every single MSP of every single party in Holyrood (Scottish Parliament) including the Tories bar one voted against having Trident in Scotland. Just imagine how "safe" nearby located city of Glasgow is in the event of nuclear warfare whereby a nuclear base like Trident is a primary target for incoming attacks.

  • @martinrye712

    @martinrye712

    Жыл бұрын

    In nuclear warfare it won't matter if Scotland are a independent country as nuclear fallout doesn't stop at borders.if England gets nuked the Scots,Welsh and Irish are toast as well.

  • @w.vanherk2946

    @w.vanherk2946

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martinrye712 Yes, it does. Because the first thing Scotland does when it becomes independent is to get rid of Trident. Precisely because it is independent it can do chose to do so. Furthermore, it makes one hell of a difference if the target of a nuclear attack is just besides a big city (Glasgow).

  • @martinrye712

    @martinrye712

    Жыл бұрын

    @@w.vanherk2946 are you really that thick,nuclear fallout will be blown everywhere on the wind so I'm afraid you are talking nonsense

  • @w.vanherk2946

    @w.vanherk2946

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martinrye712 well, I would rather call it well informed rather than thick. Survival chances are directly linked to one's proximity to the place of impact. You can read up on it if you like to gain a better understanding if this is an issue of concern to you.

  • @jackx4311

    @jackx4311

    10 ай бұрын

    Do you really, REALLY think that places like London, Birmingham and Manchester would NOT be primary targets? Get a GRIP, mate!!

  • @lexibroadbent1467
    @lexibroadbent1467 Жыл бұрын

    As an English person, I want independence never mind Scotland we don’t need them .

  • @scotthendry6298

    @scotthendry6298

    6 ай бұрын

    Are you sure 😂😂 who's oil money you gonna steal who's natural resources you going to use

  • @lexibroadbent1467

    @lexibroadbent1467

    6 ай бұрын

    @@scotthendry6298 funny how you couldn’t decide to phrase this as “England steals from Scotland England is bad Rawr” or “please don’t leave us to economic turmoil 🥺”

  • @ekohfashis2962

    @ekohfashis2962

    26 күн бұрын

    Scotland will let you have independence in a heartbeat dear England.

  • @lexibroadbent1467

    @lexibroadbent1467

    26 күн бұрын

    @@ekohfashis2962 it’s not me, it’s you

  • @CliveAdlam-yn8uz

    @CliveAdlam-yn8uz

    22 күн бұрын

    Not so, didn't you have a vote. Im up for it.British Government will save millions in dole money .​@@ekohfashis2962

  • @bobbod8069
    @bobbod8069 Жыл бұрын

    What these debates always leave out, is the biggest issue of all. Would an independent Scotland impede the supply of Tunnock's Teacakes south of the boarder?

  • @davidlally592

    @davidlally592

    Жыл бұрын

    ( mega laughs)

  • @NonConsensual

    @NonConsensual

    Жыл бұрын

    I think we'd see the rise of cartels illegally smuggling Tunnock's products across the border instead of drugs

  • @MrDino1953

    @MrDino1953

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidlally592 - Depends how much rent the boarder is willing to pay.

  • @mickpowell8503

    @mickpowell8503

    Жыл бұрын

    Leaving the Boarder aside, I'm sure he pays a fair rent, there is also the Tunnock's Bar to consider. The teacakes are nice but you cant dip them in your tea..

  • @bobbod8069

    @bobbod8069

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mickpowell8503 Wow man, slow down. Lets get a deal on the teacakes and then sort out the bars.

  • @Chorutowo
    @Chorutowo Жыл бұрын

    The worst thing too happen if Scotland leaves is the amount of maps we will have to update to reflect the new borders

  • @Faultlinevideos

    @Faultlinevideos

    Жыл бұрын

    We'll have to buy a tone of new Atlases I suppose 👀 🗺

  • @vatnidd

    @vatnidd

    Жыл бұрын

    Creating jobs for more cartographers 🔥

  • @fabriziovignati383

    @fabriziovignati383

    Жыл бұрын

    there is still someone who buy phisical maps?🧐

  • @Chorutowo

    @Chorutowo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fabriziovignati383 I do. They're a fun addition to my walls, I add one for every place I go to

  • @baikhous

    @baikhous

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fabriziovignati383 Tell me you were born in the 21st century, without telling me you were born in the 21st century...

  • @antonio.paternostro_01
    @antonio.paternostro_01 Жыл бұрын

    It's literally incredible how virtually no one in the comments talks about the most important of things regarding nation-building processes: national sentiment. If the Scottish people want to break free from the English bad enough, no economic reason will hold them back. And I'm Italian, the unification of my country happened in the same way.

  • @alexpotts6520

    @alexpotts6520

    Жыл бұрын

    But if 51% of people want to break away and 49% of people don't, is that really "wanting it bad enough" for nation-building to be successful? Because that will be the reality of any independence vote.

  • @antonio.paternostro_01

    @antonio.paternostro_01

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexpotts6520 that's not wanting it "bad enough" as of now

  • @alexpotts6520

    @alexpotts6520

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@antonio.paternostro_01 So you accept that a narrow independence vote would be a pyrrhic victory marking the beginning of a doomed project? Because a narrow win is the only kind of win the nationalists are going to get for the foreseeable future. (And given that conditions right now are ideal, at the fag end of the worst British government that any of us can remember, I don't see where this comfortable pro-independence majority is going to come from.)

  • @leonardogregoratti386

    @leonardogregoratti386

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexpotts6520 for Brexit it was

  • @alexpotts6520

    @alexpotts6520

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leonardogregoratti386 For Brexit it obviously wasn't! It was enough to make it *happen* but not enough to make it happen *successfully.*

  • @lamondlense
    @lamondlense Жыл бұрын

    Scotland actually opposed Trident and voted against its renewal in 2016 because a lot of the West of Scotland would be in the blast radius of it if something were to go wrong.

  • @donaldboughton8686

    @donaldboughton8686

    Жыл бұрын

    Till they realised the loss of jobs that this would result in.

  • @_v_r_tt

    @_v_r_tt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donaldboughton8686 I struggle to buy that argument. It’s hugely expensive to renew, maintain and operate just these 5 submarines. Funding that could and would (due to NATOs minimum spending requirements) otherwise be diverted towards more quantities of conventional weapons. If it’s job creation your after better to have an bigger and less specialist personnel

  • @stevencorns9026

    @stevencorns9026

    Жыл бұрын

    Scotland didn't. The minority government did.

  • @ayoutubechannel7143

    @ayoutubechannel7143

    Жыл бұрын

    @@donaldboughton8686 Source? Oh yeah that's right you made it up

  • @gaycha6589

    @gaycha6589

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_v_r_tt costs of Trident is nothing compared to building an entire national structure and infrastructure and services from scratch. I would expect the UK to let them have anything easily, just as EU was with UK on Brexit. Then there is the huge risk and costs of Scottish EU membership - by no means a certainty. Trident would look like small beer up against that lot. I hope they stay together btw. My other half is from there😢😢😢

  • @MrVidification
    @MrVidification Жыл бұрын

    Even in England you'll see 'End London Rule'

  • @paulwild3676

    @paulwild3676

    Жыл бұрын

    That is very worrying.

  • @DragnEYE

    @DragnEYE

    Жыл бұрын

    That's more american than a lot of americans nowadays. Nice!

  • @J14Irish

    @J14Irish

    Жыл бұрын

    Spot on, the North of England is just as disenfranchised as Scotland and Wales!

  • @paulwild3676

    @paulwild3676

    Жыл бұрын

    @@J14Irish More so. The Scots and Welsh have parliaments. The North has piecemeal devolution instead of regional administrations.

  • @J14Irish

    @J14Irish

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paulwild3676 We need to secede!

  • @simpleasliam657
    @simpleasliam657 Жыл бұрын

    As an Englishmen, I don't have an issue, or even care that much. They want to govern themselves, I don't blame them.

  • @nomadoma9422

    @nomadoma9422

    Жыл бұрын

    I couldn't care less either, but as an Englishman living in Scotland I am fucking terrified

  • @EagleBill1

    @EagleBill1

    Жыл бұрын

    Sturgeon doesn’t want to govern Scotland, she wants to rejoin the eu and let them govern Scotland.

  • @2cv693

    @2cv693

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nomadoma9422 you could immigrate back to england, or stay there and become a scottish citizen

  • @J14Irish

    @J14Irish

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nomadoma9422 they arent going to murder you if they get independence 🤣

  • @shane6115

    @shane6115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@J14Irish why not?.William Wallace would 😅

  • @JPJ432
    @JPJ432 Жыл бұрын

    If Scotland leaves and nobody hears it did they Really leave?

  • @alal-yy7jg

    @alal-yy7jg

    4 ай бұрын

    Even if they did, who tf would care? xD

  • @Gmabonoski
    @Gmabonoski Жыл бұрын

    It’s an inevitability if you look at demographics - older generations more “no”, younger more “yes” - as the years go by the “yes” proportion creeps up.

  • @thor.halsli

    @thor.halsli

    Жыл бұрын

    The older you get the more conservative you become

  • @johnhawkins5314

    @johnhawkins5314

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thor.halsli A trend that millennials and and gen z (so 42-9 year olds) are breaking. Millenials at young voting ages of 18-25 were more conservative than they are 17 years later

  • @dkoda840

    @dkoda840

    11 ай бұрын

    @@thor.halsliThe millennial generation has shown a trend that will buck this tradition.

  • @FranzBieberkopf

    @FranzBieberkopf

    2 ай бұрын

    "Waiting for the wrinklies to die" isn't much of a political strategy.The proportions pro and anti independence haven't changed in 10 years, so there isn't a flood of younger radical voters.

  • @user-mq3um5iu2q
    @user-mq3um5iu2q Жыл бұрын

    Why are all the shots of Scotland painting it as a rural, uninhabited land? Constant shots of Eilean Donan, a sprinkling of Skye, a little Glenfinnan with Calton Hill too. We do have cities: it's not just Princes Street, George Square and nothing else.

  • @peterkavanagh498

    @peterkavanagh498

    Жыл бұрын

    Less than one tenth the population of England.

  • @OneTrueScotsman

    @OneTrueScotsman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterkavanagh498 And? So is Norway. Ireland. Jamaica. Denmark. Finland. New Zealand. Uruguay. And a dozen others.

  • @peterkavanagh498

    @peterkavanagh498

    Жыл бұрын

    If you see pictures of those countries also you are likely to see them looking quite empty too because they are just that. I expect that if Scotland were ever to break away from the UK then it's population would plummet further as those who want to continue living off English taxpayers as well as talented Scots (like East Germans) flee, in this case south of the border.

  • @gabsie7224

    @gabsie7224

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterkavanagh498 I don't think anyone would want to live in England now if he wanted to improve his situation.....

  • @georgec7899

    @georgec7899

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterkavanagh498 BS

  • @jonathanbennet2580
    @jonathanbennet2580 Жыл бұрын

    most scots don't see nukes being kept in their backyard as "a benefit of being in the uk"

  • @Scaleyback317

    @Scaleyback317

    Жыл бұрын

    And the jobs that brings to the area? 8k if this source is to be believed.

  • @jeckjeck3119

    @jeckjeck3119

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Scaleyback317 Better with EU. And knowing scots, pissing of Brexiteers is a bonus for them.

  • @ATownDown32

    @ATownDown32

    Жыл бұрын

    If there aren't nukes in your backyard ,then they're likely to land in your house by another power

  • @Scaleyback317

    @Scaleyback317

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeckjeck3119 If pissing off people with alternative views is of any great importance over the other problems facing the world in general and the UK in particular then the rest of us are better off without them.

  • @Nick-ye5kk

    @Nick-ye5kk

    Жыл бұрын

    They love the money though, always have, always will.

  • @ClassicGreenery
    @ClassicGreenery Жыл бұрын

    It's worth mentioning that ALL UK's oil is in Scotland and that most of UK's hydro power is also in Scotland, furthermore UK's most valuable fishing areas is also in Scotland. I think it's fair to assume that Scotland could emerge much richer as an independent nation after getting though the break up period with England.

  • @Mmjk_12

    @Mmjk_12

    Жыл бұрын

    That's just BS, the majority of oil fields would be in Scottish territorial waters but they would have to nationalise them first which would be really hard to do economically, especially as the world transitions from oil. Funnily enough the vast majority of natural gas reserves are further south in what would be English territorial waters. Natural gas is much cleaner and we use way more of it. I'm not saying this as a unionist, Im for giving scotland another referendum and letting them decide. but please stop with this horsehit that every problem will be fixed if you choose to leave and that Scotland will be a rich utopia because it definitely won't be.

  • @optimuswarcrimes1178

    @optimuswarcrimes1178

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mmjk_12 he's not saying we'd be mega rich, he's saying we'd do better than people give us credit for, many act like we'd end up as a third world country that would perish and die without our oh so benevolent English dictators

  • @dmraven

    @dmraven

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mmjk_12 what he stated didn't say anything about Scotland becoming much richer than England/UK, or even being a "rich" country. He just stated a richer one in the terms than some people think think. Some believe if Scotland got their independence it would turn Scotland into a complete disaster, even a 3rd world country. The fact is there are resources that come from there and the region around it. If Scotland did get it's independence back, it wouldn't be a country like Japan without actual no resources/minerals. That is all, richer than some believe, especially those who think it would be a complete failure.

  • @captainbuggernut9565

    @captainbuggernut9565

    Жыл бұрын

    Interestingly incorrect. Most of the oil fields are in English national waters by quirk of the way borders are worked out. A mistake often made by nationalists. As for fish they move around my old fruit and nearly all of Scotlands exports go to or through the UK via the channel tunnel. Your also assuming by the way the whole of Scotland wants to leave. Alot of it might choose to stay in the UK.

  • @contessa.adella

    @contessa.adella

    Жыл бұрын

    A typical pro-Scot misconception. Scotland relies on considerable funding from England for everything from its nhs and education to military support. Scotland could not join the EU independently because it doesn’t have the qualifying GDP.

  • @didierlemoine6771
    @didierlemoine6771 Жыл бұрын

    Ireland does it very well so will Scotland :)

  • @PS-ru2ov

    @PS-ru2ov

    Жыл бұрын

    no they will not

  • @lordbonney9779

    @lordbonney9779

    8 ай бұрын

    Ireland has a good economy, Scotland has the largest deficit economy in Europe. If Scotland was apart of the EU then the union would have to fund the Scots entirely… something they don’t want to do 😢

  • @scotthendry6298

    @scotthendry6298

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@lordbonney9779 your talking pish and your no bonney😂😂

  • @Dryhten1801

    @Dryhten1801

    4 ай бұрын

    Alexa pull up Dublin House prices

  • @Abra-rf5yt

    @Abra-rf5yt

    3 ай бұрын

    The pro-socialist body politic in Scotland make it impossible to see a success there the way it happened in Ireland. Oil in the North Sea is not enough to compensate because the oil era is coming to an end.

  • @MrMickey1987
    @MrMickey1987 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to add a big astrix to the open border policy between England and Scotland in a post UK world. Because if a newly independant Scotland joins the EU they cannot have an open border with a non EU member (England). The EU would never accept this, they don't in Ireland either ;-). As EU dogma stipulates that the integrity of the single market needs to be protected at all costs! I'm a Dutch EU citizen and have no fish in this game, but for Scots and Englishmen to keep having an open border? It definetly depends on the status of Scotlands EU membership. You can't have both, so be honest about it, don't lie to the Scots. Don't paint a picture that envisions a future where nothing wil change between them and their neigbours and that they can join the EU, just like that. That's simply not how this is going to work out!

  • @saxon-mt5by

    @saxon-mt5by

    Жыл бұрын

    A newly independent Scotland won't be able to join the EU as it will not meet the fiscal requirements in the Copenhagen Criteria; and that's not even considering countries like Spain that have their own problems with break-away states will veto the application anyway.

  • @robertbannocks6750

    @robertbannocks6750

    Жыл бұрын

    Very true and well put. Plus do not forget we Englanders will insist on it, if that is the border remains open at all.

  • @MDP1702

    @MDP1702

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saxon-mt5by I don't think Spain or so will cause a problem. Scotland would leave a country that left the EU and then just asked to rejoin. This would be completely different to a region seperating from an EU country and trying to get back in. In the former scenario I don't expect too much fuss, in the later the new country would be blocked by several EU members.

  • @nickmonks9563

    @nickmonks9563

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saxon-mt5by No, but it can get there. Other nations have.

  • @timseytiger9280

    @timseytiger9280

    Жыл бұрын

    You can just drive from Ireland to Northern Ireland. There is no border infrastructure, just road signs and mph instead of kmph. You haven't a clue.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman24148 ай бұрын

    As an Englishman, I hope the UK will stay united, but I respect the Scots' opinions on what they want for their country. It's understandable why some Scots may want to leave, but I really hope our countries don't split and we can stay together as national brothers and sisters 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧

  • @weeguy52

    @weeguy52

    7 ай бұрын

    As a scot, i hope we also stay united as England will do to us what europe done to us both after brexit, and we don't have the systems in place to minimise the effects of leaving and it will no doubt cost us even more financially aswell Scotland and England will be a lot weaker, and it's not like we can snap our fingers and everything will be fixed. Coming to agreements with take years and building the infrastructure/systems will take longer For scotland, we would pretty much have a very small military that we would need to rely on nato heavily, even if we can meet nato requirements. We're struggling to fix the current problems we have due to brexit, so adding more would be illogical

  • @oliversherman2414

    @oliversherman2414

    7 ай бұрын

    @@weeguy52 Well said. You make a lot of good points

  • @Saffy-yr8vo

    @Saffy-yr8vo

    5 ай бұрын

    Scotland’s argument is not against the people of England it’s against Westminster.

  • @oliversherman2414

    @oliversherman2414

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Saffy-yr8vo I guess so

  • @Leo-hwru
    @Leo-hwru6 ай бұрын

    It feels like the EU was the duck tape holding the UK together. But the uk Conservative Party government also looks like they need to be kicked out for causing all of this mess.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Жыл бұрын

    I feel bad how Enric Miralles, the Spanish architect who designed the Scottish Parliament Building, didn't get to see his biggest project completed as he died in 2000 (at the age of 45). Miralles sought to design a parliament that could represent the Scottish national identity. He did so by creating a design that allowed views and blended in with the surrounding rugged scenery, symbolizing the relationship between Scottish nature and the Scottish people. That aside, all these problems with Scottish independence are on top of the problems regarding building the dang parliament. The project went completely overbudget and while I get what he was going for...it doesn't match with the rest of the Edinburgh architecture.

  • @fridgemagnet9831

    @fridgemagnet9831

    Жыл бұрын

    I would also hide my face forever if I designed something so atrocious.

  • @Amelia-vk4jt

    @Amelia-vk4jt

    Жыл бұрын

    I personally think and you'll find many other Edinburghers agree that Scottish parliament is one of the ugliest building in Edinburgh

  • @cammza9989

    @cammza9989

    Жыл бұрын

    Unsurprisingly he died of a brain tumour and it certainly looks like that tumour did most of the design work on that monstrosity

  • @paulohagan3309

    @paulohagan3309

    Жыл бұрын

    Miralles? Is that a Catalan name by any chance?

  • @paulohagan3309

    @paulohagan3309

    Жыл бұрын

    Just looked it up. Whattya know? The guy was from Barcelona ...

  • @Phoenix-ov5gg
    @Phoenix-ov5gg Жыл бұрын

    If they want to go let them go, it would be bad for both countries in terms of global influence, military capability etc, but it’s not fair to make them stay if they don’t want.

  • @thebombplayer2986

    @thebombplayer2986

    Жыл бұрын

    good thing global polotics doesn't give a shit if it's fair

  • @evelynwilson1566

    @evelynwilson1566

    Жыл бұрын

    the problem is that feelings within Scotland are very divided, as was shown by the results of the 2014 referendum. From both sides of the debate what we hear is far more often rhetoric rather than actual facts which would allow voters to make an educated decision. Knowing where to go for reliable, relatively impartial information is increasingly difficult.

  • @kityhawk2000

    @kityhawk2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @evelynwilson1566 I think it would be far worse for Scotland to leave the UK than the EU. Just look at the figures of people and goods coming into Scotland from the EU (pre Brexit) versus people and goods coming to and from the UK. Scotland is it's own country with it's own culture and history and government but in terms of travel and trade and social interaction Scotland, England and Wales have essentially functioned as 1 country for hundreds of years. It would be like Yorkshire or Greater London declaring independence from the UK

  • @thebombplayer2986

    @thebombplayer2986

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kityhawk2000 Scotland isn't a country, also leaving the UK would mean an end for scotland, they don't have a chance to join NATO, and they can't join the EU, so they're pretty fucked

  • @thomasreed49

    @thomasreed49

    Жыл бұрын

    I am a Scott Protestant been living in England for 60 years when I was there they always used to say Home role means Rome. England and Scotland through the centuries have done a lot together and brought a lot to the world don’t take notice of the black Africans. They should never Break up.

  • @johnwilson1321
    @johnwilson1321 Жыл бұрын

    Only a matter of time to Scottish independence, as Tony Blair said once lit the flames of nationalism are never extinguished. Politically Scotland and England are increasingly incompatible it’s time to shake hands and go our separate ways as good neighbours. The democratic shows that every age group apart from over 65s are in favour of independence. Scotland will become an independent country ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @johnwilson1321

    @johnwilson1321

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daemon5583 Brexit put they to rest! Scotland was completely ignored and marginalised. Northern Ireland who votes remain was given all the things Scotland asked for if indeed England decided to force us out. We have never been more divided and forced governments picked by English voters and imposed on Scotland is unsustainable!

  • @mariannehancock8282

    @mariannehancock8282

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope Scotland goes independent with all my heart, but it's disconcerting to see the Daily Heil equating Sturgeon's resignation with her 'dreams of independence' lying in 'tatters'. Don't let it be true. Rise and be a nation again.

  • @johnwilson1321

    @johnwilson1321

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daemon5583 your country is governed by a government that your countries voters have rejected since 1955! Your country was forces out of the eu against her will and has policies see utterly rejected imposed upon her! Hardly democratic is it !

  • @johnwilson1321

    @johnwilson1321

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daemon5583 you might disagree with the snp but the majority of Scotland agrees that’s democracy! But I certainly can’t stand having policies from a government elected by another country forces upon my country !

  • @johnwilson1321

    @johnwilson1321

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daemon5583 there is higher spending in Scotland because of its rural nature which requires higher spending. But as a whole Scotland produces more tax than anywhere in the uk apart from the south east of England so we more than pay our way! As for the snp implementation of policies they won the election on a manifesto endorsed by Scottish voters and therefore have every right to implement them!

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc10 ай бұрын

    I honestly believe independence would suck for my generation (70's child) but we owe it to the younger generations to give them a better life than what is possible in the UK.

  • @GarryGri

    @GarryGri

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree, I would take the hit for a better tomorrow in Scotland. I am already taking the hit fr what looks like a continually worsening future thanks to BrekShit England.

  • @jamestyler12JT

    @jamestyler12JT

    8 ай бұрын

    Would suck for my generation as well, there’s little benefits to it. You don’t owe us anything. We made the correct choice in 2014.

  • @thebritishtwat1317

    @thebritishtwat1317

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jamestyler12JT there are TONS of reasons independence is a good thing but I'm sure your baiting so

  • @jamestyler12JT

    @jamestyler12JT

    7 ай бұрын

    @@thebritishtwat1317 there are admittedly some reasons but the negatives far outweigh the positives

  • @scotthendry6298

    @scotthendry6298

    6 ай бұрын

    I owe the younger generation nothing They don't even know wt gender they are now😂

  • @haroeneissa790
    @haroeneissa790 Жыл бұрын

    One subject I missed in this video is the ability for a independent scotland to rejoin the EU. Some countries like Spain might veto it because they don't want to encourage independence movements in other parts of Europe.

  • @Ruiseal

    @Ruiseal

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe spain said it would not veto eu membership as long as Scotland gets consent from Westminster to leave, unlike Catalòinia which tried to get independence unilaterally.

  • @-Deco

    @-Deco

    Жыл бұрын

    Correct assumption but wrong reason. Our government doesn't currently meet the financial criteria that ascension states must adhere to in terms of the government deficit to GDP in order to join.

  • @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

    @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

    Жыл бұрын

    Even if Scotland was granted eu membership eventually it typically takes numerous years after applying to actually become a member and in that whole unspecified time Scotland would be outside both the UK and the EU at the same time and do serious damage to its economy.

  • @Ruiseal

    @Ruiseal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 yes i admit that is a possibly, and im willing to take the hit, i also understand others are not and are free to vote how they like. i'll vote yes if before the next referendum the uk has not implament 5 policies which are: 1. PR voting (which scotland already has with the alternative vote) 2. A written Constitution, the scottish parliament does not have the same lengthy history as Westminster and therfore unlikely to use a unwriten Constitution based on a few documents and convention 3. Abolish the house of lords, the scottish parliament has no house of lords and is unlikely to in an independent scotland. 4. Make the uk a Federation with state rights, with the devolved system Westminster can take away devolution any time it sees fit. 5. Rejoin or in the process of rejoning the eu.

  • @animatorofanimation128

    @animatorofanimation128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ruiseal The UK will never rejoin the EU, not only do many citizens still not support it, but the EU themselves will never allow it. The EU wont allow themselves to just become a club where people can join and leave and rejoin whenever convinient

  • @The-tg5zg
    @The-tg5zg Жыл бұрын

    We (Scots) get talked about a lot like we’re living in the granny flat of the England families house. “How will we survive?”.

  • @Garner84

    @Garner84

    Жыл бұрын

    If UK Gov got rid of Barnett Formula, you'd be toast, if Scotland is independent who will pay for their 12% deficit, not the English I tell you that

  • @brendenmcmillan8937

    @brendenmcmillan8937

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Garner84 barnett formula has been proven to be nonsense numerous times. Take the cost of trident away, the full income from north sea and include all scottish goods which go to the continent as scottish exports and not english and that deficit doesnt look anywhere near as large

  • @katherinegilks3880

    @katherinegilks3880

    Жыл бұрын

    You’ll survive better on your own. The English are treating you like a housewife and gaslighting you into believing you have no marketable skills, no job prospects, no sense of how to run a household, etc. Sure, you might have to give up some pretty baubles, but it’s better than being in an abusive relationship.

  • @jediknight129

    @jediknight129

    Жыл бұрын

    @Brenden Mcmillan you wouldn't get the North Sea oil income for a start and the barnet formula is the DEFAULT absent 'good reason' for it to be otherwise and there have been some amazing incidents where something only affecting England has led to mo ey being sent to Scotland because of it. the Student Loans lawsuit that forced more funding to go to Scotland because English Students were being charged being an awesome one. As for Trident, are you costing the fact that you will lose the funding and influx of people form the bases? Scotland leaving the UK would benefit England and fuck Scotland.

  • @jukeboxgeneral7105

    @jukeboxgeneral7105

    Жыл бұрын

    An independent Scotland, Wales and NI wouldn't have a deficit. Yiu can't be im debt if you can't borrow.

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz1329 Жыл бұрын

    To respond to the UK court ruling that another independence referendum cannot be held by the Scottish parliament, I recommend the parliament write a letter to London that begins with, “When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary…” It worked for the country I’m from. 🇺🇸

  • @jdlc903

    @jdlc903

    Жыл бұрын

    No it didn't, your country suppressed secessionists violently

  • @brianarbenz1329

    @brianarbenz1329

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually the U.S. suppressed a human trafficking ring seeking to continue an economy of rich freeloaders getting labor without paying for it. I regret that it couldn’t be done without violence, but have no regrets about ending slavery.

  • @grzegorzha.

    @grzegorzha.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jdlc903 Did those secessionists write a letter to Washington that began with "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary..."?

  • @gg-ps1vz

    @gg-ps1vz

    Жыл бұрын

    They would respond by showing you the polling results which consistently show 'No' to the question of independence.

  • @brianarbenz1329

    @brianarbenz1329

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gg-ps1vz Of course in 1776, when the U.S. declared independence, only about 1/3 of the colonists favored it.

  • @limpetcarre1139
    @limpetcarre1139 Жыл бұрын

    At least we wouldn't have Scottish MPs sitting in the English Parliament.

  • @alexanderroberts730
    @alexanderroberts730 Жыл бұрын

    I really don't want them to go but I can understand why they want to the union hasn't been a fair one

  • @tenniskinsella7768

    @tenniskinsella7768

    Жыл бұрын

    Alexandra Roberts why are y saying that

  • @DavidWildgoose

    @DavidWildgoose

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not been fair to England, I agree. Time for English Independence!

  • @annemitchell6144

    @annemitchell6144

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DavidWildgoose Then why don't you, oh right your government won't allow it because they need the votes from unionists to stay in power don't they and labour wouldn't seek it either for the same reason because at the end of the day labour are no different than the tories in that respect it's all about having power and lording it over everybody else so you are stuck with Scotland forever weather you like it or not unless the English people chose to do some thing about it they have already said no to Scotland so If you want your Independence from Scotland I suggest you get properly motivated there are more people in England than in Scotland balls in your court as it were otherwise tough luck cause neither the tories or labour want it as it's not in their best Interests to do so same with PR that's not in their Interest either good luck your gong to need it.

  • @roryoneill9444
    @roryoneill9444 Жыл бұрын

    The island of Britain in the UK used to be Ireland's largest export market back in the 80's, by the 90's this was usurped by the US market, then in the 00's by Belgium and in the last 4 years Germany, however, Ireland is vendor managed by most companies via the UK for example the German Car Manufacturing company BWM, send car parts to Ireland from UK hubs. So it is very likely that the same would apply to an indepentant Scotland on trade..

  • @Grundewalt

    @Grundewalt

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly, and the reunification of Ireland would put these two nations of equal foot with England. The old empire has to die.

  • @1coleman8

    @1coleman8

    Жыл бұрын

    Not only this, but Ireland is still part of the common travel area with the UK. Even though opponents day that this would not apply to an independent Scotland.

  • @roryoneill9444

    @roryoneill9444

    Жыл бұрын

    @@1coleman8 Ireland is part of the Common Travel Area due to the occupation of the North & so England could continue to have white english speaking cheap workers. If England and Wales wants to punish Scotland for leaving the UK, possibly kicking Scotland out of the Comon Travel Area would be one way. The UK partitioned Ireland as a "punishment" for leaving, this is way the brits talking about the EU Punishing them with border checks and not allowing the uk in the Horizon Project & other such strange comments.

  • @hod2116

    @hod2116

    Жыл бұрын

    @@roryoneill9444 the UK didn't punish Ireland for leaving not all of Ireland wanted to leave which wasn't always the case until the ira went after the orange lodge

  • @Smokemeakipper41

    @Smokemeakipper41

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Grundewalt how would ireland afford reunification with a housing crisis and immigration issues , ireland was bankrupt and bailed out by EU mainly Britain and Germany in the 90s, besides do you think Spain would vote for an independent Scotland joining EU when regions like catalonia and basque country want their own independence in Spain 🤔

  • @piscesDRB
    @piscesDRBАй бұрын

    I am both amazed and impressed that you can make such detailed presentation whilst knowing so little about Scotland and the SNP Leadership, that couldn't run a whelk stall!

  • @craigmacdonald8003
    @craigmacdonald80039 ай бұрын

    The UK was able to leave the EU on it's own, without permission from Brussels. Yet, there is no way for Scotland to leave the UK unless England allows. Can't blame the Scots for being frustrated.

  • @yannischupin7787
    @yannischupin7787 Жыл бұрын

    There is an element I hear a lot regarding the benefits of Scotland leaving... Some argue that independence would protect Scotland from wired and toxic policies made in London. And given how ''well'' UK is doing now, well I think they're right. Also Scotland leaving could be just as good for them as it 's been with neighbouring Ireland, who is thriving right now...

  • @frosty_soda

    @frosty_soda

    Жыл бұрын

    No its not. Ireland is like any other western country. Its far from "thriving". Have you seen the protests and constant troubles with economic crisis and housing, health etc?

  • @frazer4123

    @frazer4123

    Жыл бұрын

    Ireland was thrown into decades of economic crises after independence. Post WW2 they were almost totally bankrupt

  • @jamesodonnell8290

    @jamesodonnell8290

    Жыл бұрын

    Irelands GDP is 10% actual GDP and 90% from being a tax haven.

  • @killert41

    @killert41

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frosty_soda constant protests? You mean in northern Ireland that was forced to leave eu too and u were forced to make a border with piece of land u own ? Buddy no one believes your lies biggest trade union is better than being sanctioned by your own supposed ally lol 😆

  • @porcupineinapettingzoo

    @porcupineinapettingzoo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frazer4123 Due to brexit like cultural, political and economic isolation and attempts to become self sufficient all the while being tied to the pound the Irish economy stagnated post independence. Once Ireland liberalized its economy and joined the EEC, it went from one of the poorest nations in Europe to one of the most prosperous meanwhile Yorkshire, parts of Scotland, NorthernIreland, parts of Wales are among the poorest areas of Western Europe while London the richest.

  • @waddle200x
    @waddle200x Жыл бұрын

    I care. The Scottish are a beautiful people. This country will be much worse off without them (and I'm not talking economically). I will be heartbroken to see them go, but I can totally understand why they might have to.

  • @comradekenobi6908

    @comradekenobi6908

    Жыл бұрын

    >to see them go I'm pretty sure scotlands not gonna move continent or anything, there just there, minus the Westminster shite

  • @Alastair_

    @Alastair_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@comradekenobi6908 Though tbh if you gave us enough shovels we'd give it a go..

  • @oshul_

    @oshul_

    Жыл бұрын

    Well we're worse off being part of the union so i don't know what you want us to do

  • @comradekenobi6908

    @comradekenobi6908

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oshul_ yeah unless they have something to offer other than upcoming recession and declining quality of life, eh

  • @adamnewman6846

    @adamnewman6846

    Жыл бұрын

    The United Kingdom is not a country

  • @HunterPanoch
    @HunterPanoch Жыл бұрын

    I've spent 4 months studying this pretty extensively IN Scotland so this was an interesting addition to my reccomendations

  • @ryancasey7577
    @ryancasey7577 Жыл бұрын

    Us English are also mis represented by those in Westminster.... Every single one of those in Westminster care only for themselves and how to bulk up their pockets. England, Wales, Scotland and NI need a change. We need a complete reshuffle and people who actually represent us all

  • @jbhoycelts1170
    @jbhoycelts1170 Жыл бұрын

    Quite literally ignores the fact Scotland has 25 percent of europes renewable energy share

  • @WiggyB

    @WiggyB

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Most days we run ~80% wind, 10% hydro and the rest nuclear.

  • @jeckjeck3119

    @jeckjeck3119

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WiggyB And that will only increase. And I'm sure EU would welcome Scotland in EU... just to piss off UK;)

  • @jamesodonnell8290

    @jamesodonnell8290

    Жыл бұрын

    It doesn't though, those numbers were total BS, MSP's have issued apologies for using such false numbers and past documents are being amended. The real number is somewhere around 4%.

  • @hendrx

    @hendrx

    Жыл бұрын

    that's not enough to become sustainable

  • @adrianred236

    @adrianred236

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WiggyB If you could only harness the power of midges you'd have a surplice.

  • @ArtemisShanks
    @ArtemisShanks Жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting seeing the videos of several English Brits, attempting impartiality in examining the interests of the Scottish people.

  • @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    Жыл бұрын

    I live in London but my Mum's side of the family are Scottish. I completely believe that the Scottish people have a right to self determination and I emotionally get why they want to separate from the current Tory hellscape of the UK. None of those feelings change just how uphill the economic challenge of independence will be. Also if we look at the damage that Brexit did in terms of dividing the UK population, the sheer scale of the chasm that pulling roughly half of your population out of a union which financially benefits causes, I think it's worth carefully considering how much weight those emotions should be given.

  • @pansepot1490

    @pansepot1490

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-mt6hr4qf9n also being tied to a sinking ship should be given careful consideration. There’s plenty of small countries in Europe which have split from bigger unions (Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, etc.) which have fewer resources than Scotland yet are thriving.

  • @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@pansepot1490 It's an interesting point. All the countries you mention came from dissolved unions though rather than leaving a large one. That being said, before Scotland is a full member of the EU am I right in thinking that trade could be relatively frictionless between Scotland and the remains of the UK? Don't get me wrong, I get the excitement for independence, and I have a vested interest in it to get an EU passport from it, I just worry that they're promising sunlit uplands and I know how that's gone with Brexit.

  • @jayne7111

    @jayne7111

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-mt6hr4qf9n no you would be wrong in thinking that , don't know where you get your info from . You don't know much about Scotland at all I hear a lot o the project fear scpheel coming from you ie stuff you hear in the media. How small you think Scotland is that it doesn't have any Port's? why would trade be frictionless we the neighbours that just disnae make sence. 🤔

  • @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jayne7111 You're full of the kind of bitterness I'm worried about. My comment was polite and open, you're angry with me about it. That's what I mean when I say it reminds me of Brexit - you sound like the Ukippers

  • @fireblade2681
    @fireblade2681 Жыл бұрын

    Why do content creators always say: "did you know: most people aren't subscribed?" as if we're going to be like: "wow what an interesting and helpful piece of information. Please tell us more about the viewership metrics of your channel."

  • @iamthinking2252_

    @iamthinking2252_

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it’s to suggest to the viewer to subscribe, they are watching the video, they presumably like it, please subscribe so you’ll come back for more

  • @fundorgon

    @fundorgon

    Жыл бұрын

    Because it works. If you are enjoying a video and have watched a few shorts/full videos from channel already that can make the difference between people subbing and not, essentially because it's a numbers game.

  • @fireblade2681

    @fireblade2681

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fundorgon Yes I know. The purpose of saying "did you know" is to try to create interest out of nothing. He didn't actually think anyone was interested. He was being 100% fake.

  • @peasy1874
    @peasy1874 Жыл бұрын

    Decent video mate👍🏼Alwsys a bit trepidation watching these as you fear they’ll be really one sided. Nice and balanced 👍🏼

  • @jacquijensen9948

    @jacquijensen9948

    11 ай бұрын

    Well might be well balanced but not well evidenced. No consideration fir the well of energy resources in Scotland, the exponential grown in off shore wi d farm technology, hydro plants. Currently Scotland supplies sizeable amounts of English energy, England is short of water and is keen to get it from Scotland and wales, this would be at a price. The nuclear ports and trident in Scotland, may require a 10 year rental period from Scotland. This won’t be inexpensive either. I can see why English parliaments don’t want it, it will be hugely financially impactful. Rejoining EU may be expensive but all the above funding will assist, there is a €20bn accession fund, some of it could help us; but the pay off for Scot’s will be huge, we are surrounded by EU countries and we have strong historic trading links with Nordic countries. So gaps in the film I would say

  • @Saffy-yr8vo

    @Saffy-yr8vo

    5 ай бұрын

    No, it’s not. But then again, I’m Scottish.

  • @chinguunerdenebadrakh7022
    @chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 Жыл бұрын

    One concern for the UK is military. Scotland's geographic location gives London pretty sweet military bases. The British base at HMNB Clyde is the home to British nuclear weapons that are armed on submarines. If Scotland leaves, there's no way in hell they're allowing a British military base, much less one filled to the brim with nukes. And even if Scotland allows it as a condition of leave negotiations, it's kinda shit to have your nuclear insurance in another country. And it could be troublesome to find a replacement, the choice of location at Faslane was not just geographic, but geological as well. The solid hard rock IIRC is a superb location for a secure storage for nuclear weapons and there's hardly a replacement for it on English coasts.

  • @maxdavis7722

    @maxdavis7722

    Жыл бұрын

    He mentioned that in the vid.

  • @calmacmcc6949

    @calmacmcc6949

    Жыл бұрын

    As someone living close to Faslane Id prefer if they stuck the nuclear base on the Thames quicker the better if Putin goes ape shit or Biden thinks he's in a movie

  • @jbhoycelts1170

    @jbhoycelts1170

    Жыл бұрын

    We don't want trident

  • @calmacmcc6949

    @calmacmcc6949

    Жыл бұрын

    @Alexei Smirnoff Yeah professor Mark Blyth from Brown university made a similar comment ie rent it out but in a democracy Id put it to a vote if you want nuclear warheads next to yer big cities?

  • @calmacmcc6949

    @calmacmcc6949

    Жыл бұрын

    Or you could stick a timer on it and send it to Westminster Mr V

  • @Enderwiggan1
    @Enderwiggan1 Жыл бұрын

    Just imagine the EU told the English they're not allowed vote on independence until they said so? It would be DEFCON 1

  • @04nbod

    @04nbod

    Жыл бұрын

    That was the law that was agreed as part of the creation of the Scottish Parliament. It must be by mutual consent. In the case of Europe we agreed to the Lisbon treaty that outlined those rules.

  • @Enderwiggan1

    @Enderwiggan1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@04nbod Doesn't sound very good for the Scots. Their consent is nor required, nor wanted for anything important. the English wouldn't stand for this system for a day.

  • @averagejoe8358

    @averagejoe8358

    Жыл бұрын

    The EU is a collective of countries looking out for others interests, not a kingdom.

  • @fearlessbot9695

    @fearlessbot9695

    Жыл бұрын

    i wish the eu told england they're not allowed to vote on leaving the eu

  • @arfermo853

    @arfermo853

    Жыл бұрын

    You obviously hate the english and are an immature loud mouth who knows nothing about history, we english are happy for the scots to go if that is what they want ,good luck to them

  • @Thomas-472
    @Thomas-472 Жыл бұрын

    Basically to sum this video up England don’t want Scotland to leave because they will be considerably poorer

  • Жыл бұрын

    When i was growing up i thought the world is coming closer together. But now as a grownup i come to realize the world is more getting dividend. I also see globally thought of countryizm that isn't beneficial to all of us. Thus the conclusion is mankind isn't grownup enough (if ever).

  • @addermoth

    @addermoth

    Жыл бұрын

    We were united when in the EU, now us Scots have been forced out of that by the English. Many of us would rather have a union with Europe as opposed to England. Scots are generally a progressive bunch and we seek to leave the UK, not to flag wave and look inwards, but to determine our own future and build relationships with friends who respect us. We are not respected by Westminster. We wish the power to look outwards and rejoin and as you say 'come together' with old friends.

  • @tenniskinsella7768

    @tenniskinsella7768

    Жыл бұрын

    But Scotland is part of great Britain it's a bit different from other countries wantingvto be independent we are one island. Indontbagreevwith independence for Scotland at all

  • @tenniskinsella7768

    @tenniskinsella7768

    Жыл бұрын

    @@addermoth don't mind UK.governmemt giving y money though we are great Britain and should stay that way

  • @veemcg3682
    @veemcg3682 Жыл бұрын

    Not a bit. I'm in Northern Ireland and I don't give a toss if we stay as part of the union or join eire or fly solo as long as everybody can live in harmony and peace.

  • @johnathanx

    @johnathanx

    Жыл бұрын

    People will never live in harmony and peace. Never have, never will.

  • @04nbod
    @04nbod Жыл бұрын

    Just because Nicola Sturgeon says she doesn't want the border to close doesn't mean that will happen. If they want to join the EU they have the NI Protocol issue. How do you keep an open border while checking migration and customs checks? Why would England want that open border if a person can travel from Macedonia to Scotland just walk into England? You also didn't mention the currency.

  • @thefastandthedead1769

    @thefastandthedead1769

    Жыл бұрын

    Currency is not a problem. Scotland will have its own Reserve Bank. It has more than enough resources. On GMS n EU official was asked this very question and her answer was "Don't think that that (currency) would be a major issue". Pretty plain. As for the time taken she also replied "Everyone would do their utmost"! It is an unprecedented situation that an exEU citizens wish to rejoin. It could just be just as simple as a rubber stamping exercise. We will only know when it happens. In the meantime EFTA on day one. Scotland would love to have the access that NI has curtosy of the NI Protocol to the EU single market. It would also wish to retain the Freedom Of Movement as this is an economic boon. It was also needs the FOM for many of the public services. Such as the SNHS and Care Homes, farming etc. rUK and Scots citizens moving across a border Scotland/England is not a problem. Just carry some ID like a passport just like the Swiss/EU member states borders. This alleviates your Macedonia worries.

  • @sam.victor470
    @sam.victor470 Жыл бұрын

    The very recently crowned monarch of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, (the Royal connection having had James VI of Scotland become James I of England is significant); and of course the Westminister Parliament's predominantly English politicians obviously all do care very much that Scotland remains part of the Union. England, Wales and Scotland are on the same island in northern Europe. Tradition says Scotland is a different country. The Scottish nationalists say it is culturally and politically capable of total self-government. It has a small population (5.4 million), so managing it's own affairs is relatively simple. Many other nearby small nations like Andorra, Iceland, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Ireland, Slovakia, Switzerland, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Slovenia, San Remo, Monaco, Vatican, Malta, Cyprus, Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Albania, Moldova, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bulgaria etc., etc. are responsible for themselves. Scotland would be in good company. Most ordinary English folk are pretty indifferent to Scotland leaving the Union. The latterly allegedly corrupt and law breaking English ministers who rule, are at odds with that English 'San Ferry Ann' attitude as it would reduce the geographic power base If the numbers are to be believed, most Scottish voters in the last referendum on Scotland's independence, were fairly borderline ambivalent against change . . .until subsequently, the more populous and xenophobic England voted to leave the European Union (much to Scottish chagrin), and arrogantly dragged Scots out of Europe against their ballot-box will.

  • @louiemead6493
    @louiemead6493 Жыл бұрын

    suggestions below on which topic you think we should cover next time. 162 can canzuk still work and would nato change to 30 members to 34 members if Scotland independent

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile, we're still hoping to achieve peaceful reunification with the South. My grandpa nearly got the job done, but of course the Americans intervened, though thankful China stepped in. No peace treaty has ever been signed which means the war is still going on, the people can't visit each other because we only recognize each other as governments and not nations, and families have been torn apart because of the DMZ. The Korean language in the DPRK and ROK have evolved so differently, that they could be considered two languages at this point. The reunified system we propose is not one where there's only one sole government, but a model where both maintain their governments.

  • @franknwogu4911

    @franknwogu4911

    Жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @Justin-ui5ti

    @Justin-ui5ti

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. Your Grampa wanted Reunification through invasion right? Then the Americans and the UN intervened and pushed your gramps back.

  • @Myanmartiger921

    @Myanmartiger921

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Justin-ui5tiagree. Poor usa could not help pakistan commit genocide in Bangladesh. Soviet union stoped them.

  • @Myanmartiger921

    @Myanmartiger921

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Justin-ui5tidon’t be sad you still got to implement Jim crow long enough and also bomb laos.

  • @Justin-ui5ti

    @Justin-ui5ti

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Myanmartiger921 What the heck are you even talking about? Are we going into crazy talk? All right. My turn. Are you drunk on bloody Russian rum fermented with Putin’s bloody boot?

  • @ToastieBRRRN
    @ToastieBRRRN Жыл бұрын

    Tbh, if England were given a referendum to kick Scotland out of UK. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority would vote yes. England needs it's own devolution. Especially places like Yorkshire who have roughly the same population as Scotland but have far less representation. This whole "levelling up" by the Tories sadly is nothing but window washing for the most deprived parts of the UK.

  • @veggiesupreme3556

    @veggiesupreme3556

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the UK should just federalise into it’s different regions. Could even name them after some of the Anglo Saxon kingdoms that share similar borders and use those flags

  • @maxdavis7722

    @maxdavis7722

    Жыл бұрын

    @@veggiesupreme3556 wtf why? Was this a joke?

  • @ToastieBRRRN

    @ToastieBRRRN

    Жыл бұрын

    @@veggiesupreme3556 Like Spain or Germany? I wouldn't mind if the taxes were different but laws should be unanimous. For example during the pandemic each nation having separate covid policy was a right faff, especially for bordering communities.

  • @veggiesupreme3556

    @veggiesupreme3556

    Жыл бұрын

    @@maxdavis7722 no I actually think the UK before devolution was fine but at this point federalisation would be the only way to satisfy the Scots, Welsh and northern Irish as well as smaller independent movements such as Yorkshire or the north as a whole or Cornwall while also being fair to the English outside of London who are currently the only ones without devolution

  • @maxdavis7722

    @maxdavis7722

    Жыл бұрын

    @@veggiesupreme3556 I’m English and I don’t want devolution. It’s irritating that we are the only ones not to get it but it would spur on nationalism and secession movements. I don’t think that caving in to every minority secessionist movement is the right idea tho.

  • @weaponizedknight7316
    @weaponizedknight73163 ай бұрын

    It makes sense for one island to be a country, being broken up after 300 years is strange

  • @jimwalker5412
    @jimwalker5412 Жыл бұрын

    I'm English, if the Scots want to leave, good luck to them, either way we can't go wrong.

  • @franciscruickshank8794

    @franciscruickshank8794

    6 ай бұрын

    AND REMOVE YOUR 4 NUCLEAR SUBS ,ONLY ONE ON PATROL AS OTHER 3 ON MANTENANCE ,ALSO YOUR STOCKS OF NUCLEAR WARHEADS AND NUCLEAR WASTE BEING DUMPED IN SCOTLAND ! ALBA GU BRATH

  • @shashimenon1000
    @shashimenon1000 Жыл бұрын

    Well researched. Maybe a couple of misses (NHS?). But so much food for thought. England pretending to be a 'benevolent dictator' is unfortunately today, in a rut of its own. Only a general election can create a new and possibly consistant point of view that matches UK's current reality and global status. All the best.

  • @HenrythePaleoGuy
    @HenrythePaleoGuy Жыл бұрын

    Very underrated channel! Shocked to see you guys don't have 40K plus yet!

  • @emeraldcrusade5016

    @emeraldcrusade5016

    Жыл бұрын

    Or Warhammer 40K subs or views...

  • @larryhale3183
    @larryhale31838 ай бұрын

    Wales has a similar situation. Is welsh independence just as strong?

  • @alynwillams4297

    @alynwillams4297

    9 күн бұрын

    It’s getting there. According to recent polls it’s around 35 to 40% at the moment. Compared to 10 years ago where it was around 20%

  • @anxiousali3681
    @anxiousali3681 Жыл бұрын

    I live on the river Clyde and can promise you NO ONE in this area wants Nuclear base and subs on our doorstep and NO ONE feels safer and protected with them here!

  • @user-mq3um5iu2q
    @user-mq3um5iu2q Жыл бұрын

    It's wrong to say NHS Scotland is only 'operated' by ScotGov. The policy directive for NHS Scotland is set out by ScotGov, NOT UKParl, and as for funding, Scotland is given a lump sum of money by the UK Government (Barnett Formula) with which they can decide how to spend the money across all areas - NHS, police, roads etc. You suggest that the money and policy for NHS Scotland is set out by UK Gov but that's just wrong. Edit: To say that, "Scotland's NHS would likely verge away from NHS England" is ridiculous because they are already different. Wages in Scotland, the amalgamation of hospitals, the social care, the mental health service, the ethics committees, EVERYTHING is separate and so they are truly not the same. They are compatible, but they aren't the same.

  • @perarduaadastra873

    @perarduaadastra873

    Жыл бұрын

    I have to travel from Scotland for cancer treatment in London because NHS Scotland has No Money for the correct treatment. 👀

  • @user-mq3um5iu2q

    @user-mq3um5iu2q

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@perarduaadastra873 I'm sorry to hear that, NHS Scotland is far from brilliant. I once had a dentist torturously apply so much pressure when trying to remove my tooth that he split it into four and the NHS refused to remove the shards of tooth from my gum within a year, so I had to go private. It's far from great and they don't always give you what you need.

  • @arianbyw3819

    @arianbyw3819

    Жыл бұрын

    Plus: the Barnett formula? Even it's creator admitted it's not fit for purpose. Scotland is underpaid.

  • @doreenhollywood7459

    @doreenhollywood7459

    Жыл бұрын

    @@perarduaadastra873 It must be very specialised care as Scotland's NHS is better funded than england. It is also higher performing.

  • @perarduaadastra873

    @perarduaadastra873

    Жыл бұрын

    @@doreenhollywood7459 Scotland only has Radical Treatments for Prostate Cancer. Radical treatments cause needless harm when used at an early stage of detection where “Focal Treatments” are the best and correct treatment. I am surprised NHS Scotland does not have a Class Action Lawsuit from all the men needlessly harmed by radical treatment.

  • @videosbyevan
    @videosbyevan Жыл бұрын

    Love Scotland man and I wish them well with whatever they decide to do 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿💜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Alba gu bràth!

  • @lovelybitofbugle219

    @lovelybitofbugle219

    Жыл бұрын

    Fook that. They're traitors to Britain.

  • @salientsolution5436

    @salientsolution5436

    Жыл бұрын

    Wish we were allowed to decide for ourselves

  • @John1873--

    @John1873--

    Жыл бұрын

    @@salientsolution5436 in my adult life, I've had two votes of independence.

  • @salientsolution5436

    @salientsolution5436

    Жыл бұрын

    @@John1873-- if nothing has changed for you since 2014, then I congratulate you on your immense privilege. The rest of us have a cost of living crisis and the ramifications of brexit to deal with.

  • @John1873--

    @John1873--

    Жыл бұрын

    @@salientsolution5436 right, you might like to create narratives to suit your agenda.... But I'm done caring for that sort of behaviour.

  • @vkgraphics
    @vkgraphics8 ай бұрын

    Can someone explain to me, why rUK would suddenly stop trading with an independent Scotland. If they want our goods, they will still buy them, as the alternative is to go further afield, pay more, wait longer, and get a lesser product.

  • @amandarichardson9836

    @amandarichardson9836

    3 ай бұрын

    What is rUK?

  • @vojleyo
    @vojleyo Жыл бұрын

    some historical details such as the alien act where missed out but apart from that generally a good balanced video 👍

  • @4Usuality
    @4Usuality Жыл бұрын

    Not even 52% of Scots wanted representation??? and that was NOT EVEN A THIRD of all voting able Scots? Wow This that is new info to me, good information mate.

  • @sgtbrett1974

    @sgtbrett1974

    Жыл бұрын

    He explained why - The referendum required a supermajority.

  • @NewPaulActs17

    @NewPaulActs17

    Жыл бұрын

    representation? you mean independence?

  • @andreasbredahl1736

    @andreasbredahl1736

    Жыл бұрын

    It was almost 2 thirds…

  • @raymondporter2094

    @raymondporter2094

    Жыл бұрын

    Scotland already has representation in the Westminster Parliament and has more Members of Parlaiment than, strictly, its population would suggest is appropriate - some of the constituencies have really tiny populations yet they still have one Westminster MP. Scotland also has its own Parliament which sits in Edinburgh, and control over education, health and transport issues. So, to that extent, it has representation. The population of Scotland is about the same at that of Yorkshire, is less than Lancashire and massively less than London (London also voted to Remain in the EU, like Scotland but, because it is part of the UK, it is stuck with the result voted for by the majority in the country as a whole). There might be a number of issues if Scottish independence were to happen. 1. What if areas like the Orkneys or Shetland were to want to stay within the UK? Shetland, in particular, with its oil and fishing areas, might possibly prefer to have a navy to protect it. 2. Areas like the lowlands (Berwickshire, towns like Kelso, Peeebles, Galashiels, Hawick, Annan etc) have economies veery closely linked to England which lies directly to their south; people living near Berwick are likely to do major shopping expeditions in Newccastle and Gateshead on Tyneside rather than go up to Edinburgh, just as people near Annan, Dumfries etc are likely to do similar large shops in Carlisle at least as much as going up to Glasgow/Clydeside. 3. If Scotland were to be independent from the rest of the UK, I imagine it would be impossible for rUK to have its navy ships built in Scotland (I imagine contracts will be awarded to Barrow in Furness or to Portsmouth, as no Defence Minister or local MP could be expected to export jobs to the detriment of the people who might vote in rUK elections). There would be a loss of skilled jobs to Scotland and a loss of the ancillary jobs tied to them, therefore damaging the local economy. 4. If Scotland were to rejoin the EU: - There would inevitably have to be a "hard border" at Berwick/Carlisle. - As a percentage of its economy Scotland does a much higher percentage of its trade with the rest of the UK than rUK ever did of its eceonomy with the EU. England alone (being more than 10 times the population of Scotland and even more than that in terms of the size of its economy) is the biggest export destination and importer of Scottish goods. - If Scotland were independent there would be a massive exodus of companies, especially financial businesses. By way of example, when the Royal Bank of Scotland came to the brink of collapse in 2008, the Scottish economy could not possibly have saved it (the Bank of England and the UK Treasury came to its rescue) as the RBS liabilities dwarfed the total Scottish economy. - What currency would a newly-independent Scotland use before it was able to join the EU and embrace the Euro? Who would "back" that currency? What about people who already hold mortgages in pounds Sterling? If they used the £, Scotland would be in the position of using a currency without having any say in financial decisions that might effect the value of that currency because, of course, those decisions would be taken in London. - If they were to join the EU, what conditions would the EU make for that rejoining? The size of Scottish Budget deficits? Contributions to the EU budgets? - How big a voice would Scotland have in the EU? Obviously in the recent past we have a Scots Prime Minister (Gordon Brown), a Scots educated PM (Tony Blair) and many high-ranking UK cabinet ministers and holders of the significant UK Offices of State. I suspect there will be a long wait before any such senior positions in Brussels are held by Scots. Does this represent the view of a bitter Englishman? NO, surprisingly, though I do hear many voices saying that "if they want to go, let's just get shot of them and save money!" I was born and live in Yorkshire yet my family were all born in Wales. My wife, and all or her family were born in Scotland and she is the only one whose permanent home is outside Scotland. We visit regularly her sister and brother in law in the North West Highlands (twice so far this year and it would be more than than that, but for health reasons). I love Scotland as part of the UK and where I visit, people find Edinburgh as remote and "out of touch" as Westminster is. Maybe SOME influential people in the Central Belt think that Independence would be the answer to all their problems but that would be the start of so many other problems and issues. The UK has been the most successful political and economic union the world has seen so far, and has lasted centuries so concern that a decade or two of problems is only the blink of an eye. When it's broken, you won't be able to repair it.... so leave it be. -

  • @redred7289

    @redred7289

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NewPaulActs17 they're talking about the 1979 referendum. The first referendum asking to establish a Scottish Parliament. It passed a majority but not enough people voted.

  • @kathyanderson4342
    @kathyanderson4342 Жыл бұрын

    Necessarily brief romp through the background of the debate. And as a History teacher, somewhat specialising in Scottish and British history, I could wax lyrical on the slights, betrayals; real, imagined and conjured: on both sides. But when I vote for an independent Scotland it will be on the basis of the future, not the past, which can never be diminished or taken away, for good or ill. And I absolutely want to live in a country that embraces all who visit or want to stay. I want to live in a country where a person's actions define who they are, rather than what is assumed because of their race, gender, religion, football team (!) or any other, arbitrary designation. Thirty years ago, that equality was at least aspired to in Great Britain. I'm sad to say I don't see it now. Am I hopelessly idealistic or naive? Maybe. Probably. But I will take that everyday over the divisiveness that the majority of the UK media seemingly indulges in. And if it means, ironically, dividing the UK to pursue such basic tenets as valuing all in society? I'll walk that path. Frankly, the evidence in favour of independence for Scotland since 2016 (and even before) is pretty compelling, but even if it wasn't, decisions based on fear are unsustainable. I look forward to the day that the Saltire flies alongside every other UN member, with all the privileges and responsibilities that acknowledged nationhood brings.

  • @thecaledonian7643

    @thecaledonian7643

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent comment honestly

  • @addermoth

    @addermoth

    Жыл бұрын

    "I look forward to the day that the Saltire flies alongside every other UN member, with all the privileges and responsibilities that acknowledged nationhood brings." Well said. I look forward to that day to.

  • @Saffy-yr8vo

    @Saffy-yr8vo

    5 ай бұрын

    You’re not naive, it’s the future. If we don’t keep voting for the main Independence party we will be subsumed by the extreme right wing policies of Farage and Co. It’s happening already. Whether or not back into EU for Scotland, we have to break from the UK. The tories have stamped on their own and a revolution from the pro brexit duped underclass might be all England has to save its own neck.

  • @johnclapshoe8059
    @johnclapshoe8059 Жыл бұрын

    Hang on, where's England's devolution parliament?

  • @oliverschmidt1988
    @oliverschmidt1988 Жыл бұрын

    Me, feeling more European than German, I would very much welcome Scotland !

  • @Cl0ckcl0ck

    @Cl0ckcl0ck

    Жыл бұрын

    Norway and the rest of the EFTA would accept them in a second. Then they can start the membership application.

  • @jeckjeck3119

    @jeckjeck3119

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Cl0ckcl0ck And it would piss off Brexiteers, that alone is enough of a reason to accept Scotland.

  • @Tobi-ln9xr

    @Tobi-ln9xr

    Жыл бұрын

    "mE, fEeLiNg MoRe EuRoPeAn zÄn tScHöRmAn" Ach du Scheiße...

  • @oliverschmidt1988

    @oliverschmidt1988

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tobi-ln9xr na was für ein Glück das ich nicht so rede du Holzkopf 🙂

  • @TheWarboss7

    @TheWarboss7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@teutonicheart2532 it's so sad and cringeworthy to see Germans being embarrassed of who they are despite not even being around during WW2

  • @VisualiseTheFun
    @VisualiseTheFun Жыл бұрын

    My jaw dropped when I found out that the turd that is the Scottish parliament building cost nearly HALF A BILLION POUNDS

  • @williampatterson3683

    @williampatterson3683

    Жыл бұрын

    And I remember when Donald Dewar ( the father of the parliament) said it would only cost £20 million - a bit like the ferry fiasco and many, many more SNP financial disasters.

  • @SteamboatWilley

    @SteamboatWilley

    Жыл бұрын

    It was big news at the time.

  • @euanmilne5302
    @euanmilne5302 Жыл бұрын

    I've always thought that England would function significantly better if it was devolved in a similar way to the old heptarchy map, which should result in a move even representation of England's 50 million+ population, that and we need proportional representation, and proper education, to bring an end to "safe seats" and so that the tories can't become the majority party, with less than half public votes

  • @alexnunes1380
    @alexnunes1380 Жыл бұрын

    What's the book with the maps on the video, does anyone know? I want one

  • @cameroneadie9938
    @cameroneadie9938 Жыл бұрын

    I really liked this video but I did have a few points: - On Trident, many Scots are opposed to housing nuclear targets just a few short miles from our biggest city. Hence, its removal was a big pro-Yes vote winner in 2014. - The Scottish Economy, post-independence. That Centre for Economic Performance paper admits itself that it does not take into consideration new outside foreign investment, EU support and immigration. If you look at some of Scotland’s key industries, like satellite and space, the EU is our biggest trading partner. You’ll find the U.K. is only really Scotland’s biggest trading partner when it comes to services, not manufactured goods. That is why EU membership, with access to 26 global trading markets for manufactured goods is a better option for Scotland. Take Ireland for example, since its independence and succession into the EU, it has geared its economy to suit the needs of the European single market. In fact, Dublin is Europe’s richest city by GDP per capita. And that’s why you should support an independent Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @graemedoctor7266

    @graemedoctor7266

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes… and when Ireland became independent, Britain was its biggest trading partner too and Ireland was extremely poor. No reason why Scotland’s economy can’t flourish also and find new niches or markets after Indy alongside trading with rUK.

  • @cameroneadie9938

    @cameroneadie9938

    Жыл бұрын

    @@graemedoctor7266 You’re absolutely right! 😄

  • @jamesfleming1710

    @jamesfleming1710

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd add to that that Scotland would most definitely not be less well protected without the UK. It has been shown that this is yet another area in which Scotland pays far more into the pot than she gains from it. The Royal Navy don't even keep ships in the area to protect the North Sea oil fields. How long did it take them to get something up here the last time the Russians sailed into our territorial waters?

  • @cameroneadie9938

    @cameroneadie9938

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesfleming1710 I think you make a very good point. Also, Scotland would hold lots of cards when it comes to naval matters too. This is because it forms part of the GIUK stretch of water that blocks Russian ships from being able to sail out to sea without passing international waters. This is a very strategic position to hold and would stand Scotland in good stead whatever our defence policy post-independence.

  • @chazzerbox131

    @chazzerbox131

    Жыл бұрын

    @@graemedoctor7266 the difference is Scotland isnt built like Ireland is it doesn’t have the capacity like Ireland did the economy of Scotland relies heavily on Uk as a whole the best way forward for Scotland and for for the rest of the Uk is to seek a Swiss style deal with the EU to access the European Market with certain agreement akin to Switzerland Norway Iceland whilst pursuing trade deals with other countries like US Canada etc.

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 Жыл бұрын

    If a momentum builds behind Scotland and/or Northern Ireland leaving the UK, that momentum would cause the whole of the UK to gravitate towards Britain joining the EU. Timeline? 10-15 years.

  • @paulwild3676

    @paulwild3676

    Жыл бұрын

    Which would only serve England, as it has a 2 and a half trillion pound economy. London, The South East and The North West, all have bigger economies than Scotland.

  • @NotoriousEKB

    @NotoriousEKB

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paulwild3676 How's that economy going to function without all the resources? Your 'natural' only industry is banking.

  • @paulwild3676

    @paulwild3676

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NotoriousEKB You have a point.

  • @tonyves

    @tonyves

    Жыл бұрын

    In your dreams. We are sovereign, it's in our dna.

  • @geoffball4431
    @geoffball443129 күн бұрын

    If they have a referendum at their expense and they vote leave off you go , but whatever the Barnet formula should be scrapped

  • @Beans_On_Toast123
    @Beans_On_Toast1238 ай бұрын

    I think a big thing to realise is the key word of ‘Capital’ and that’s is something that Scotland does not have

  • @familiecole
    @familiecole Жыл бұрын

    Anyone struggling to comprehend the border between England and Scotland need look no further than the urban area surrounding the city of Basel, Switzeland where the border with Europe is a rather seamless series of criss-crossing roads, verges and grass banks etc. Whereever there is a political will, there is a political way...

  • @colinyoungs2610

    @colinyoungs2610

    Жыл бұрын

    That's because Switzerland is in Schengen, the passage of people is unrestricted.

  • @DFMSelfprotection

    @DFMSelfprotection

    9 ай бұрын

    WRONG! A hard border would be put in place... this has been pointed out ad nauseam.

  • @familiecole

    @familiecole

    9 ай бұрын

    @@DFMSelfprotection The Romans were the last to try and build a hard border between Scotland and England. Irish independence from England led to the Common Travel Arrangement (CTA) and Scottish independence will lead to the same arrangement. The idea that England and Scotland will spend millions on a border when the alternative of a CTA is staring them in the face is ridiculous.

  • @PGHEngineer

    @PGHEngineer

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@familiecoleAre you sure about that? The CTA only benefitted Ireland and has been of no benefit to the English at all. I don't think England will make that mistake again. And where would the border be? At Scotlands traditional boundary or north of the pro-Union border counties? Scottish independence is dependent on the idea that the English hate the Scots, but somehow the English will blow smoke up your backsides when you leave, and that furthermore we will continue to do so for generations.

  • @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058
    @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer to see the end of the UK knowing we gave Scotland their wish than this chaotic disagreement we have now

  • @Dani-cg5yc
    @Dani-cg5yc10 ай бұрын

    Great video, great topic!!😊

  • @spikeus3039
    @spikeus3039 Жыл бұрын

    Being governed by London which is largely not English push's most Northern English away from that so called centre. We're increasingly feeling disenfranchised!

  • @lolzlolz102
    @lolzlolz102 Жыл бұрын

    They can break away if they want. So long as they understand they will have to fund everything themselves.

  • @brendenmcmillan8937

    @brendenmcmillan8937

    Жыл бұрын

    Happily

  • @edwinleslie1330
    @edwinleslie1330 Жыл бұрын

    As a SCOT who lived in London most of his life and now lives in Austria. I would love to see ENGLAND become independent.

  • @ProfessorArcanum

    @ProfessorArcanum

    Жыл бұрын

    a good 25% of me as an Englishman agrees with you

  • @lolaminnit

    @lolaminnit

    Жыл бұрын

    They wouldn't be able to survive on their own with no oil, no £75bn from the Scots and especially with all the gimmiegrunts landing in rubber boats...

  • @ProfessorArcanum

    @ProfessorArcanum

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lolaminnit it is absolute madness to think England couldn't survive alone. It'd thrive. Scotland takes more than it provides from England

  • @NotoriousEKB

    @NotoriousEKB

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ProfessorArcanum Then let's see it, son.

  • @ProfessorArcanum

    @ProfessorArcanum

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NotoriousEKB England has no capability nor majority support for independence. Despite popular opinion on independence-centric media, the English public are happy to provide to support the other nations within the United Kingdom. You'll see it, son, when and if those nations finally decide to break away. And a sad day it'll be.

  • @eddyrapide
    @eddyrapide Жыл бұрын

    Good video! As to the economic prospects of an independent Scotland, however, I would seek out more opinions than a single paper by the Centre for Economic Performance. On the CEP's website they mention their various funders, and the list includes departments of the UK government (and even the US government). I'm not saying that the CEP is hopelessly biased or that its conclusions are wrong, but it does appear to be pretty much an organism of the British establishment. Here, I would look for information from various sources including some more independent economists.

  • @danmacalpinbruce2555
    @danmacalpinbruce2555 Жыл бұрын

    There are more scotts by birth, bloodline or decent, england and wales than there is in scotland? So a monirity north would not repesent all scotts on the island

  • @baronvonjo1929
    @baronvonjo1929 Жыл бұрын

    What would be the drawbacks for Scotland if they left? Wouldn't they have to then support themselves with military and just basic needs? How hard will it be for Scotland to replace all this? Would prices increase or lower? How self sufficient is Scotland? Edit: Well that blew up

  • @maxdavis7722

    @maxdavis7722

    Жыл бұрын

    Scotland does like 60% of its trade with the rest of the UK, the Scottish economy is quite intertwined with the UK economy.

  • @michaelwalters4249

    @michaelwalters4249

    Жыл бұрын

    According to data from the Scottish government, they have a spending deficit of 12.3%, meaning they spend almost £24 billion more each year than they take in tax.

  • @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    @user-mt6hr4qf9n

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AmisThysia My understanding is that Scotland would have to adopt the Euro as a condition of its joining the EU (assuming it was approved - Spain particularly would see what that would mean for its own National integrity with Catalonia). This would create added problems to trade with the remaining parts of the UK. It's not an easy solution at all but it's offered a strange inverse of Brexit: Brexiters, on the whole, are against independence for Scotland but they can't articulate "don't go independent, look what a divisive disaster Brexit was" and for those remainers among the supporters of independence, it's difficult to make the argument that huge economic prices are worth it for a principle when they've seen such carnage from Brexit. I suspect that Independence is quite a way off for the foreseeable future.

  • @trevordaviesable

    @trevordaviesable

    Жыл бұрын

    It's the principle dear boy! Even if the Scots are worse off in the short term, they will rejoin the EU and beat the English financially.

  • @doreenhollywood7459

    @doreenhollywood7459

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trevordaviesable True, we have all the resources we need to be a successful country. We have plenty of fresh water, unlike england, we have windpower generating electricity, some of which we supply to england, we have oil and gas. England trades some of our products to the rest of the world under uk. We will be INDEPENDENT

  • @jordan-kj1bh
    @jordan-kj1bh Жыл бұрын

    If Scotland left the uk I’d move to Scotland

  • @doreenhollywood7459

    @doreenhollywood7459

    Жыл бұрын

    You will be very welcome. We have many neighbours who have moved here from england for a better life

  • @nmdale78

    @nmdale78

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm leaving Scotland next year. An independent Scotland would become a scary place. Totally dominated by a sociopolitical groupthink that doesn't brook disagreement well. I have a team here of Engineers. All bar two are working exclusively on English jobs, including HS2. No British market no jobs, bye bye team.

  • @doreenhollywood7459

    @doreenhollywood7459

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nmdale78 If we don't get INDEPENDENCE, I will be leaving too and going to live in France Germany or Spain. I am at heart, Scottish European, but never british

  • @nmdale78

    @nmdale78

    Жыл бұрын

    @@doreenhollywood7459 the independence mindset is weird. You ARE a child of Britain. Your ancestors presumably have been here for hundreds of years and helped create Britain. Yet you somehow identify with a culture (as tho there's only one) that we've only been tangentially related to for 40years and usually only when visiting for holidays, that presumably your parents had little to no input in forming and which you personally, presumably, have had no intimate experience of or responsibility for funding and shaping. What does it even mean to be Scottish and European and not British...it is a practical impossibility. Many of the democratic institutions of the EU were pushed for by Britain as well as the declaration of human rights etc. and GB was a key balance in the EU for four decades. Anyone who is Scottish is intrinsically British, it is not as though most Scots (and the stats prove this) have a significantly different perspective or value system from the wider UK. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Shetland have been particular beneficiaries of being members of GB and have shaped the union in a disproportionate way. Like Scots generally, who've had disproportionate influence on the politics and direction of the UK...how many Yorkshire folk can you name who were PM or educated in Yorkshire, tho it has a similar population size? I was in a pub in Edinburgh at the weekend a bunch of guys from the Netherlands were there having been on a golfing holiday. They were enjoying some food and watching the F1 and having a great time. One came over to me and my kids and said how they loved the place, loved Edinburgh and how this was a distinctively British thing...the best place in the world he said (I think referring to Edinburgh) I thought it a little OTT but maybe, he was just happy and had a few. His experience tho was of a holiday environment. In those times the grass is always very green on the other side. I get the instinct for greater democratic accountability and local decision making and I would like to see a more federalised system here...but that is directly in contradiction with the centralising urge of the SNP and to some extent the other two. Politically France is far more centralised than the UK and power resides almost exclusively in Paris, surely this is a democratic system you'd be appalled by? And an independent Scotland in the EU would have significantly less influence with such a small population than it does in the wider UK. Scotland would have to accept the Euro on joining (there are no opt outs now) losing nearly all say in monetary policy. In terms of influence and sovereignty I don't see how Scotland can improve on the influential position it already enjoys. Economically I don't see how creating a border with the wider UK would benefit especially since the EU has always been a smallish fraction of Scottish trade. Socially Scots already have more in common with the wider UK than people admit and more than say.. Bavaria or Pomarania. This is why I find it weird. If people argued from a purist, position noting a loss of influence but greater autonomy ok. But arguments like I'm Scottish and European just don't make sense to me because it seems like a complete fiction based on a grass is always greener on the other side mentality. You obviously have the right to believe this and agitate for it..but do you think other EU countries would be as accommodating of such an indepdence movement as the wider UK, I think we can see the answer to that in current affairs and history. So, you want to embrace a system that is far less disposed to the political landscape you want than the one you already reside in? When was the last time the EU devolved powers...it can't. A responsibility once ceded to the EU cannot be returned. So how does this compare to a political system which devolved governmental responsibilities and tax raising powers to Scotland and would certainly give more if pressed.... Just asking. As I say I get the urge for greater autonomy just not the independence movement as it's portrayed, which seems to me inherently self contradictory and grounded in the fiction of Brave heart more than reality.

  • @MinkieWinkle

    @MinkieWinkle

    Жыл бұрын

    No you would not, if you wanted to leave. you would have done so already. while you are free to live anywhere in the UK, why wait for them to leave? why not now?? huh? as trying trying to move to Scotland after they leave will be harder, as you lose your right to live there which is defaulted to you are a UK citizen, Scotland leaves that right is then ONLY for the remaining UK not Scotland as well you know full well you would not leave.

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker Жыл бұрын

    What I don't get, Scottish MPs can vote on English matters in Westminster, but English MPs can't vote on Scottish Matters, not sure of it is the same for Wales and Northern Ireland though. Sturgeon and her merry band of Nationalists go on about Fairness, Where's the fairness when it comes to MPs votes. It doesn't matter with Sturgeon, she will keep banging on and wanting a referendum till she gets what she wants, what part of once in a lifetime did she struggle to comprehend in 2014

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 Жыл бұрын

    Its not if Scotland becomes Independent its when and most people want it soon. there has been a lot of lies from Westminster and its so obvious now that polls have shown 50%- 60% for over two years want Scotland to leave the UK.

  • @gabrieldomocos7570
    @gabrieldomocos7570 Жыл бұрын

    What everyone forgets is that King James also said "No take-backsies" when he united the crowns sooooo...

  • @LordOfLight

    @LordOfLight

    Жыл бұрын

    Sooooo.....what?

  • @matteodotdpsatgmaildotcom2451

    @matteodotdpsatgmaildotcom2451

    Жыл бұрын

    Like some words from a long dead royal fart have any relevance today

  • @shig4238

    @shig4238

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that London centric parliament benefits only London, totally understand why the Scots want independence. Parliament should be broken up and distributed around the country

  • @ewandmunro

    @ewandmunro

    Жыл бұрын

    Irrelevant.

  • @ewandmunro

    @ewandmunro

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shig4238 Nope. If the UK is to survive, parliament needs to be relocated to Thurso.

  • @Liendoelcm
    @Liendoelcm Жыл бұрын

    Frank, honest and to the point. Well presented.

  • @pastlesandfish
    @pastlesandfish Жыл бұрын

    As an independence-supporting Scot, I only care about convincing people who live here. People in England can have opinions all they want but ultimately, it doesn't concern them. It concerns people who live here in Scotland, regardless of where they originally came from.

  • @updistant

    @updistant

    Жыл бұрын

    Yawn, well please ensure the door is closed firmly behind you when you go. Whilst wishing you well 'afore ye go', have to admit I can't wait to watch the Circus unfold once you have to fund for your own social services and economy. Come on Nicola rouse those moronic England haters to swap the freedom from the UK for the freedom of Brussels.

  • @pastlesandfish

    @pastlesandfish

    Жыл бұрын

    @@updistant Aww there's always a bitter wee southerner like you isn't there? It's cute. Just wait until you don't have access to Scotland's tax revenues, oil, clean water, electricity, exports and other natural and strategic military resources. Thanks for the well wishes!

  • @pcvn214

    @pcvn214

    Жыл бұрын

    That's rubbish both parliaments had a say in the union both parliaments should have a say in breaking it. Since we vote for MPs in parliament then it is our business

  • @pastlesandfish

    @pastlesandfish

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pcvn214 Why should it be any of your business if you live in England? It has nothing to do with you except you wanting to lord it over everyone else. The empire is over, mate. Get with the programme.

  • @pcvn214

    @pcvn214

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pastlesandfish because it was both that decided to join it should be both decide if they break. Personally I don't give a toss I just find it interesting that it has turn the Scottish into a bunch of whiners

  • @FuneFox
    @FuneFox8 ай бұрын

    I wonder what people said about Irish independence at the time. Before independence most of Ireland's trade was with the UK, which is an argument I hear against Scotland leaving too.

  • @alynwillams4297

    @alynwillams4297

    9 күн бұрын

    Ironically before Irish independence the mostly likely country to go independent at the time was actually Wales. As the Unions were very powerful and wales had a lot of resources like Coal, Steel,slate etc unfortunately nothing ever came of it as WW1 broke out.

  • @paulc9139
    @paulc9139 Жыл бұрын

    The question is , could we get independence from Scotland and or Wales

  • @ruairidhlloyd282
    @ruairidhlloyd282 Жыл бұрын

    The most interesting part of the video was last part looking at the effects of independence. You could also look at how the popularity of devolution and independence varies within each part of Scotland Highland Vs Lowland Vs Isles as well as the ethnic support for Independence between Scots and Gaels.

  • @DKA10

    @DKA10

    Жыл бұрын

    i believe that a Federal UK is the solution. all four nations to have their own government with the federal gov controlling defence, international relations, etc. it will give every country the max amount of devolution while also maintaining the relationship between them all.

  • @ruairidhlloyd282

    @ruairidhlloyd282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DKA10 That is an interesting proposal but honestly I don't think that would solve the underlying cause of Scottish nationalism which is malaise in my opinion.

  • @terryhoath1983

    @terryhoath1983

    Жыл бұрын

    The big problem for the SNP is what I call "The West Virginia Question". The American Civil War was sparked by the State Government of Virginia, frightened that the Northern states may vote to abolish slavery for everyone, seceded from the Union. Leaders of many counties in the North and West of Virginia called an impromptu congress, declared the "State of West Virginia" and promptly rejoined the Union. A vote for an independent Scotland could result in parts of Scotland doing a West Virginia or something similar. If the SNP claim the right to secede from the UK, they can hardly complain when bits of it secede from Scotland. I give you Dumfries and Galloway and the old "Borders" region which may vote to stay within RumpUK. The people of the Shetlands and Orkneys may do the same, (inducements could be offered by Westminster that Edinburgh could not match) or Shetland may see its' destiny with Norway ..... or both of them may declare themselves independent becoming little Dubais in their own right. For the SNP, Orkney and Shetland are their biggest headache. "Where has all the oil gone brothers ?"

  • @oscarosullivan4513

    @oscarosullivan4513

    Жыл бұрын

    Refusing to recognise that Northern Ireland will most likely want Reunification with the Republic of Ireland.

  • @ruairidhlloyd282

    @ruairidhlloyd282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@terryhoath1983 it's a good point you make only issue is that Virginia wasn't the first state to secede from the union and therefore didn't 'spark' the American civil war. I agree that while Dumfries and Galloway and the borders don't want independence, I think they also aren't passionate about the union enough to also secede from Scotland. If one looks at the percentage of people in the UK who would fight for their country it's less comparatively than citizens of Ireland and Romania. Even if Scotland voted for independence if the UK gov cared enough to refuse (like in Spain with Catalonia) Scottish people wouldn't rise up to fight for independence. Life currently is too comfortable to risk dying for independence. If the people were radicalised in the coming months then they might do it but if the UK gov just says no then nothing will happen.

  • @lewis123417
    @lewis1234178 ай бұрын

    "We hate leaving a market thats 40 years old" "Yeah just wait until you leave a market of 400 years"

  • @alynwillams4297

    @alynwillams4297

    9 күн бұрын

    Difference being that in the EU an independent country can Veto against something they don’t agree with. In the United Kingdom the countries that make it up can’t do this. They have to follow Englands lead like it or not. It’s a union in name only

  • @RobGordon35
    @RobGordon359 ай бұрын

    Scotland should leave the Uk. I think theyre tired of being ignored and lied to. They also havent voted Conservative in Scotland since 1956.

  • @AaronMcHale
    @AaronMcHale Жыл бұрын

    A very well produced video, just a couple minor corrections: Westminster don’t actually have control over NHS in Scotland, Scot Gov are in control of health and social care policy, as well as funding. Also social security is somewhat devolved with the Social Security Scotland agency responsible for most benefits in Scotland. I also believe that while there would be significant short term economic impact, long term I’m confident Scotland would do well, particularly given the wealth of natural resources and existing high skill industries/sectors.

  • @robertryan6782

    @robertryan6782

    Жыл бұрын

    'A very well produced video, just a couple minor corrections: Westminster don’t actually have control over NHS in Scotland, Scot Gov are in control of health and social care policy, as well as funding.' - Disappointing that the video got this wrong - before listening. - 'Social Security Scotland agency responsible for most benefits in Scotland.' - Wouldn't got that far though, most I think is a bit much to describe it as.

  • @AaronMcHale

    @AaronMcHale

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertryan6782 It’s actually currently in a transition period, for instance right now people on disability benefits are being transferred from DLA/PIP to newly created benefits under Social Security Scotland. I haven’t read the Scotland Act recently but from memory, when all is done, the only remaining DWP benefit will be Universal Credit.

  • @robertbannocks6750

    @robertbannocks6750

    Жыл бұрын

    Waffle. The video said Westminster did (that is the past tense) have control, which it did, this passed to the Scottish assembly when it was formed/is in transition as others said.

  • @iankingsleys2818

    @iankingsleys2818

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AaronMcHale This was offered to the Scottish Government some five years ago but the SNP turned the chance down since they realised they could not afford it

  • @mdmurray17

    @mdmurray17

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately that's all people have - we would do better- no plan. No evidence. Its might not be the SNP in power - so someone else would have to start from scratch. We have an instant and otherwise permentant financial deficit. The SNP have worsened education, transport, police ferries and airports just to name a few. Any achievement is under the union and any deficit is the fault of the UK We have no interventional stroke service in Scotland and the second highest stroke rate in the EU We have the second highest drug death rate ni the world. Police dont have body cams so it costs more International educational comparisons have been left. Only 300,000 people are higher rate tax payers and most people pay none or minimal. - a small minority leaving would have a devasting impact. But other than your believe ane xcellent evidence based account

  • @duke0102
    @duke0102 Жыл бұрын

    I believe they should allow a vote to leave BUT if they leave then they leave the pound sterling and all benefits the UK provides. All or nothing.

  • @zoe-janesutherland4359

    @zoe-janesutherland4359

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, given that being associated with UK is clearly detrimental to Scotland, I'll quite happily use the Euro if we rejoin the EU.

  • @thatonelocalauthority2809

    @thatonelocalauthority2809

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zoe-janesutherland4359 except you won’t be able to, and that’s as of now, let alone if you left the Union.

  • @thatonelocalauthority2809

    @thatonelocalauthority2809

    Жыл бұрын

    Nevertheless I agree with the OP, if Scotland want independence, sure, but they should leave permanently, and have all UK benefits dropped immediately. I think NI might try the same thing, or wales. Oh well I guess, back just just being English.

  • @MAXIMUSLOK
    @MAXIMUSLOK5 ай бұрын

    200 years for a parliament creation Shit i was thinking that here in Greece things moved slowly 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman24148 ай бұрын

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff

  • @tnickknight
    @tnickknight Жыл бұрын

    Time for Freedom, and Scotland to rejoin it's fellow Northern Europeean countries 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @technomad9071

    @technomad9071

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @tenniskinsella7768

    @tenniskinsella7768

    Жыл бұрын

    Nick I don't understand y. We are great Britain the UK. Whybdo y think y will be better independent don't believe all the SNP tell y

  • @technomad9071

    @technomad9071

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tenniskinsella7768 you voted to leave now be alone

  • @tnickknight

    @tnickknight

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tenniskinsella7768 No it's a dictatorship, and Scotland will do far better not attached to a vile neighbour. Go make England great again on your own. bye