Culture war is a distraction from the class war on poor & working class, and now parts of the middle class too. Just love each other & maintain solidarity. Love to you

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

It's the Left that push it. BLM is a great example.

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

BLM, Trans, Critical Race Theory is coming from the Left

@Vroomfondle1066

Ай бұрын

It seems so obvious and yet it's so difficult for the majority to grasp.

@andal7404

Ай бұрын

This was the argument Angela Davis employed in the 1960s, although she took it a step further. Her argument was that the black population of Boston, for instance, and the slightly less poor Irish population were encouraged to war in order to divert them from their real enemies.

That's what we thought here in the states when Obama got elected the first time.... BE WARNED: it WILL NOT STOP! You need to keep your guard up!

@Strider91

Ай бұрын

Facts! We slipped under Obama and the Nazis claimed power. Britain needs constant vigilance

@mup_pet

Ай бұрын

Fingers crossed, I can't see it heading in the same direction. The Tories have really tried to stoke these pointless wars these last few years. But unlike the yanks, most people are just far more focused on the important issues, like being able to pay the bills, the state of the healthcare system and public services. I honestly think the majority of people just don't care either, and have the attitude of leave people alone to live their own lives and mind your own business.

I’m absolutely certain that Farage will love living with his constituents in Clacton. The locals can’t wait for him to move house to the town,and look forward to his weekly surgeries to find out about local issues so that he can represent them in the House of Commons. 😂😂

@troopzmaw4536

Ай бұрын

He won’t do anything for them.

@zainzoala1083

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@nick260682

29 күн бұрын

Yeah, but know what I mean - he says it how it is, and that’s all that matters. (To the thick people of Clacton.)

So much sense on this. The lies about vulnerable groups are horrific.

This is not in the gift of the politicians to stop, it is down to media. And there are a lot of clicks in platforming "anti-woke" speeches from former front-bench politicians.

We take our cues on the culture wars from the US.

Spot on,and that is why 36% of the public don't bother to vote.the more you listen to each candidate the more lie's and empty promises you hear.

@AKHill-gj2uy

Ай бұрын

40% at the last election.

"rancid rhetoric" couldn't be more accurate.

THINGS 🎵CAN ONLY🎶 GET BETTER !🎶 THINGS CAN 🎶ONLY 🎶GET BETTER !🎵

No. Labour are not interested in Culture wars, but the Tories, Reform UK, and their mouthpieces certainly are, as it is an important component of populism, the Ticket they operate on. If they decided to shut up, you probably would not hear much if anything about it. So yes, we are going to see more culture wars, but as it appeals to such a small minority it will be an irritant no more.

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

Labour love the Trans ideology, Critical race theory, BLM ect. Starmer took the knee.

@lestrem11

Ай бұрын

Thank you Mr Corbyn.👍

@Adam-th7qt

Ай бұрын

Tell the new Health Secretary that, he clearly didn't get the memo

@das-se4xl

Ай бұрын

​@@evolassunglasses4673, he took the knee, my word you lot are beyond belief, just because people like you have a different opinion to others and that the right wing tells you what you should think (culture wars) you now believe that politics should be like the WWE? Like the States? Let me guess don't believe the MSM, fake news, rigged etc just because they tell you that?

@alexanstey1742

Ай бұрын

​@@evolassunglasses4673we don't teach critical race theory here. Why are you so scared of critical thinking skills being applied to history? Stop the drinking the kool aid and joining in with this culture wars nonsense.

The most important step to moving on from culture wars is to reject their framing. If someone is talking about "transgender ideology", "migrant invasions" and so on, shut them down and reframe the argument to what's actually at issue: human rights, justice and equality.

@johnrussell3961

Ай бұрын

It’s just a distraction from the mess the Tories have made with the economy and our public services.

@1Mutton1

Ай бұрын

Sure. Your woke view IS the cause of the culture war.

No, Labour will not end culture wars.

Unfortunately it's only just starting. Starmer is being attacked from both the left and the right.

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

He didn't know what a woman is and took the knee to BLM.

@lighting7508

Ай бұрын

No he isn’t 😂 only the left fringes attack him. The labour base doesn’t seem dissatisfied so far

@GuzziHeroV50

Ай бұрын

He needs to get in control of the open transphobes in his party. I hope he can.

@lizfuller400

Ай бұрын

I bet he gets more flak from the TORY newspapers. But Sir Keir can handle it. The important point is that LABOUR won with an overwhelming majority. Labour is in power for five years.🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🎆🎆🎆🎆

@ibexdnb2879

Ай бұрын

​@@GuzziHeroV50 What determines a transphobe out of curiosity?

Why would it end? The Tories and Reform still exist do they not?!

More and more people can see that. Political scene intentionally setup for polarization. What makes people angry is that we are forced to choose from pre-defined packages of views. You are either "lefty" and support A or "nazist" and support B. And I don't want to be either ! There is a lot that I like or dislike in both of those "packages". There is massive room for some centre-like views and common sense and not this nonsense both sides are pedalling.

@Rachel_M_

Ай бұрын

Meanwhile moderated and centrists are shamed as "fence sitting"

The sun has risen on a freshly laundered Labour country. Ahh, the smell of freshly baked Thick sliced Competence, generously spread with integrity !

@lestrem11

Ай бұрын

Starmer’s first act as PM was to award Cherie Blair’s business partner a peerage. So much for integrity.🤪😂😏

@mup_pet

Ай бұрын

From the ashes of disaster (14 years of Tory callousness) grows the roses of success (Labour!).

@lestrem11

Ай бұрын

@@mup_pet The new government is the old government by a different name. No offence but how old are you?

@AKHill-gj2uy

Ай бұрын

Competance and integrity? How exactly do Starmer's comments on Biden match the reality everyone sees? How is that integrity?

@leeshapon

21 күн бұрын

Competence and integrity isn’t how I spell starving children, personally

Everytime I hear the phrase "culture wars" I just picture a parent jingling keys to a little kid, there's nothing to any of it, it just makes adults with the minds of children excited. Nothing you can really do about it except just ignore it and focus on real problems I think.

Absolutely not. Most of the media is still extremely right wing.

@1Mutton1

Ай бұрын

Huh? The MSM is right wing? Seriously?

@DARRELLGRIFFITHS

Ай бұрын

The BBC, ITV and SKY are right wing, seriously.

The culture war stuff is just american nonsense. It's mostly the elderly who love it and they will be gone soon

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

Trans ideology, anti White propaganda and BLM, ect is pushed by the youth. ( funded by the oligarchs ).

@mogzybuster

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately I believe it extends beyond the elderly and can't be dismissed so easily, the previous government, certain media outlets and social media in particular share a responsibility for perpetuating it imo.

@SunofYork

Ай бұрын

I am 76 and I am not going soon....and YOU are out of my WILL

@donaldmclaughlin119

Ай бұрын

​@@SunofYorkI'll take his place 😁👍

@theolddog5129

Ай бұрын

@@SunofYork Wait until you hear The New Conservatives' plans for "taking care of" the working class elderly. Solyent Green anyone? 🤣🤣🤣

There will still be agitators looking to wind things up. Let them try. The Tories can destroy their party once and for all.

If I may paraphrase the stupidity of Brexiteers, and I think I may, "You Lost, Get Over It"🤫🤐

@lestrem11

Ай бұрын

The UK currently have the fastest growing gdp of the developed g7 countries. Keep up and do some research.

@Skygrey2943

Ай бұрын

​@@lestrem11True but the UK remains the only economy in the G7 that remains smaller than its pre pandemic size. Suggesting other problems such as Brexit finally showing after the obscuring of the pandemic.

@lestrem11

Ай бұрын

@@Skygrey2943 ‘currently’ means ‘now’, glad I could help.

@Skygrey2943

Ай бұрын

@@lestrem11 That's why I said 'true' to you in my reply.

@chatham43

Ай бұрын

@brian Have you gotten over it? You still sound bitter.😊

Like any fire if you give it oxygen it only gets bigger, part of the issue is the media sensationalism of anything is helping to fuel any minor story that pops up.

Human rights are not a zero sum game.

It's not the Labour party it's the Labour & Cooperative party it's a 97 year old agreement. As for the culture wars it's been going for 60 years

Thsnk you for talking about this.

Nope it will never stop to much money in it and political capital for both party's

Natasha devon is a gorgeous woman.

Making logical points in an illogical conversation will never work. Unfortunately!

My strategy on culture wars warriors is to just gently ask ‘ok I hear your view, and help me understand it, but can you explain how it affects you personally?’, usually does the trick, whether it’s on toilet use or any gender matter etc etc

@31Blaize

Ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm going to use that!

I think it comes down to a series of issues which are polarising for many in this country and in which reaching a broad consensus is difficult. Those primarily are trans-related ideology, euroscepticism v EU, the pace of change in which we move "green", how to deal with immigration and the revisionism of british history. If there's anything ive missed, would appreicate it if anyone says but i think those are the most identifiable topics i have come across that appear very divisive. Funnily enough i think the culture war is very much an online phenomenon in my opinion, i think its easy to find more common ground on these issues when i have spoken to people with a range of political backgrounds in person but would be interested in hearing otjer peoples experiences.

Culture wars currently don't work in society because we are more liberal in social values than we are in economic. Also the side most likely to weaponise culture are those who ultimately want to cause instability and division (Tories and Reform). It's broadcasters like LBC who allow a both sideism approach and think impartiality is allowing both sides a voice but letting one side make hateful, ignorant language and blatant lies to get their point across where the left have inclusivity but on the surface level. The most reasonable belief is as long as it's not immoral and illegal then it's perfectly acceptable to be whoever you are and do whatever suits you. Which as a society we need to be. We can't agree on everything but demonising a group that does no actual harm to society isn't the way forward.

@dannyquinn9128

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisKeziahHyde I broadly agree, but who decides what is "immoral"?

@minui8758

Ай бұрын

⁠@@dannyquinn9128the vague consensus of post enlightenment post Anglican liberal humanistic values that we erroneously call “British values”.

@dannyquinn9128

Ай бұрын

@@minui8758 So who decides what is immoral? Could you try again without all the word salad? I don't care if things are "immoral", only illegal.

@minui8758

Ай бұрын

@@dannyquinn9128 british values. There’s a list of 4

@dannyquinn9128

Ай бұрын

@@minui8758 What are the four things?

No

Really..? Politicians…? I think that msm have a lot more to do with it …! Just an opinion… held by many..!

Love Natasha Devon.

Well said

We have actual grown ups for a government now thays the difference

Crazy the guy preaches division and hate for years has been attacked

Like all cowards and bullies, they often light the blue touchpaper and then stand well clear.

Centrist twaddle. We can deal with culture wars by rejecting identity politics.

@minui8758

Ай бұрын

Forms of identity politics exists on all sides of the political spectrum

@user-gf5qm9no8q

28 күн бұрын

@minui8758 not saying it doesn't, I'm merely asserting cause and effect.

does wikipedia provide official definitions? (just saying)

@chrissaltmarsh6777

Ай бұрын

What is official? Look up how wikipedia works.

@trashmanimal

Ай бұрын

@@chrissaltmarsh6777 peer reviewed but official? anyway, it was a silly rather than serious comment.

Language careful stop stoking it

You need to be careful with your platform and the voice you carry

So many facts

A great many men enjoy being angry, Natasha. It gives them meaning when they're bored. 🤔("Green Fire" UK ) 🌈🦉

Obviously, they aren't

Spot on 👏

Lisa Nandy and Labour will make it worse

Lisa Nandy is pretty knive🙄

all depends on the exact culture war we are talking about... each of the conflicts has their own scenarios and their own "bombed cities" so to speak. in some, just stopping may be enough, in others, a serious counter propaganda campaign building the basis peace needs to exist... yet in others, certain defiled iconography and values need to be cleansed and repaired.

Hardly. The Labour leader is blaming the Tories for not building enough houses but half of the new Labour cabinet votes against increasing new housing schemes when in opposition. More of the same then.🤦‍♂

First thing Lammy did as a Minister was talk about his ancestors being slaves. 😴

@icarus877

Ай бұрын

Mmm, where were they slaves??? Nearly all African Slavery was initiated by African countries. The Africans enslaved their own demographic of course.

@SunofYork

Ай бұрын

My ancestors were slaves to Nationalists and my grandad was killed in WW1. I meet some really nice non-white people

@Whitesaber211

Ай бұрын

Thats a historial fact not a mistruth your point?

No not even close

🙌 Preach 🙌 🏳️‍🌈 ✊🏾 🏳️‍⚧️ Perfectly put.. can’t fault a word! 🖤🤎❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🩵🤍🩷

Clearly not looking at the news about puberty blockers today!

@harrynewman211

Ай бұрын

What news . What a bunch of unfounded claims . Again i ask you . Are you a Doctor/pharmasist or Persin who has lived experiance with punerty blockers . If not Be quiet and get on with your life as it doesnt concern you

Which politician endorsed Andrew Tate?

@evolassunglasses4673

Ай бұрын

No one. Stop lying. He said he is a popular influence on young boys. That's just stating a fact not an endorsement.

@morizwan123

Ай бұрын

@@evolassunglasses4673 who? who said that?

@Adam-th7qt

Ай бұрын

@@morizwan123 Nigel Farage said he's a positive influence.

@1porter

Ай бұрын

@@Adam-th7qt He actually compared his own influence to that of Tate's. So make of that what you will.

Both the left and right have contributed to cultural and political conflicts over time. It's that simple. No adults in the room whatsoever. You have cancel culture from the left and over the last decade in the west most 'Hate speech' laws and the rot on free speech has been firmly from the left. The right then had a reactionary movement, with elements that go to far also. Political, ideological and societal bubbles don't progress a society whatsoever. We need more open conversations, embrace free speech, opinions and thoughts without consequences (cut off point promoting violence) and hopefully like adults meet in the middle. It's not rocket science. LBC, TalkTV, GB News etc etc all engage in it, claiming the other side is the issue. You're all the same. No adults.

@AKHill-gj2uy

Ай бұрын

Freedom of speech is the freedom to legitimately criticize the government. What you are talking about is freedom to speak and freedom to be heard, which are not rights.

@TheHumanDefective

Ай бұрын

It's not really comparable though, is it? The political right in the UK are advocating for rolling back human rights, deportation and isolation, there's a strong contingent of anti-abortion in there too, not to mention the white nationalism rife in the very far end. The far left examples are.... What, stop discrimination against trans folk, we don't want to fund civilian death in the middle east, stop saying slurs? Cancel culture barely exists once you come offline for a day The enlightented centrist stance just allows the worst elements of regression in the country to drag us down while centrists pretend to be above it all, until it affects them personally. (And there is no rot on free speech, people can say whatever they want, they just aren't free from consequences of hate speech)

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I happen to know that two Scottish friends of mine are happy that the SNP lost seats to Labour. They believe in being part of the UK. But under Labour, not the misrule of the TORIES.

How can you claim one side pushes culture war when the other side does.

saying Farage "endorsed" Tate totally "deligitamises" you. don't make things up

not taking a lecture off sonic the hedgehog

Does 'mutilation' only apply to surgery as she says? Surely hormone treatment that may lead to sterility and bone structure changes can surely be 'mutilation'?

@hayleymason8123

Ай бұрын

Puberty blockers are not hormone treatment. Different medications doing different things. Neither is going to be prescribed without long wait lists to see many medical health practitioners who all have standards of care. The whole Cass report and ‘trans debate’ is a red herring to deflect away from the desire to take away human rights. Also see the rhetoric on asylum and ECHR.

@ianbooth3164

Ай бұрын

@@hayleymason8123 Are you sure about the time taken in the decision to treat children, for the CASS Review noted that children were often only seen for a one-hour assessment before being referred for puberty blockers. It also noted the unknown long-term impacts of puberty blockers, such as their effects on cognitive and psychosexual development​. The Guardian - generally a paper very supportive of trans rights - said in their editorial that, 'children were catastrophically failed by the medical profession'. You'e not 'taking away' human rights by putting vulnerable children into the hands of ideologues who broke near every rule of medicine and were simply experimenting on kids. The clinics were closed for a reason and blockers banned.

@hayleymason8123

Ай бұрын

@@ianbooth3164 The final appointment or assessment may only be an hour long, my own consult with an endocrinologist was likely only about an hour before we agreed on a starting dosage and continued program. However before that appointment there were 3 years of assessments with medical professionals. So I feel the narrative of parents can just get these medications for their child after an hour talking to a GP is a little simplified. The rights I am referering to are not those of the trans-kids, unfortunately they are the low hanging fruit to fuel the conversation that then says what about the trans adults, male and female, notice how the loudest anti-trans voices hardly ever mention trans men. Then once they separate the T from LGB, well there’s a little more room to go after the rest of the community, because despite years of greater equality “we were right about the T, so everyone else under the rainbow flag must be just as bad”. Lose gender equality and then cis-female rights are on the chopping block, look at project 2025. Once they chip into paternity rights, then workers rights and protections are a short step away, Why after years of trans medical care did this suddenly become a thing after around 2016, and globally not just in the UK, but the USA and Canada. Teen suicides have gradually been on the rise, since 2016. Also if puberty blockers are so risky and dangerous why is only a ban on the use to treat gender issues, cis-patients can still be prescribed the same medications in likely the same dosages for other medical reasons. Like I said the Cass report, which was compiled without the inclusion of any trans voices, is just a convenient red-herring.

Get out of bed earlier each morning so we can all gloat about "Our Overwhelming Labour Victory" for longer every day !😋😋😍

Hometravelforgetting selfinvited guests neither adapt.

The culture wars aren't mainly fuelled by politicians, but by writers, artists, companies like Disney & the woke communities.

@curmudgeon1933

Ай бұрын

Corporations try to capitalise by pandering to minority groups. Outrage trolls in the media, politics and on social media channels, sensationalise this pandering to trivialise the issues, and pretend it's a sign of the end of civilisation. A soon as you refer to the term 'woke', you out yourself as an unserious, bad faith actor.

Its the start of the real culture wars not the end

Support Labour 👍🏼✌🏼❤️😀

The culture wars will never end while you promote biased clips like this one that continue the spread of misinformation. Open discussion is the solution but we are moving away from that unfortunately.

@MaximilienRobespierre1