I love Jinkx's explaination of Maestro's three outfits. The first piano outfit was their "ready for anything" fit, the last was their "going into battle" fit. But this dress is what the Maestro wears when they have nothing to worry about and is in complete control

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

Yep, and decides to play with an audience for a little while.

@theGhoulman

15 күн бұрын

It's a drag queen's cocktail dress. You can tell because it's a very dark purple. lol

@MatthewCYN15

5 күн бұрын

Bit of a callback to the NPH Toymaker: The shopkeeper outfit, the top hat and tailcoat, the band leader fit, and finally the pilot outfit

imagine what the rest of toymaker family is like after seeing his child maestro

@silverstarlight9395

Ай бұрын

I'd like to meet his wife.

@rascal_rae

Ай бұрын

Apparently Toymaker also has a sister, Hecuba, The Queen of Time. Which would make her Maestro's Aunt... Conspiracy time: Ruby is also one of their relatives

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

I’m really interested in where they go with them both in terms of portrayals and the concepts they’ll embody

@timothylyons1529

Ай бұрын

@@MLaak86 one thing for sure they act like oversized children and also be crazy

@josephstahl9119

Ай бұрын

@@timothylyons1529well as the doctor said “there is chaos there is order and then there is play” Children love to play don’t they?

I don’t know what’s more amusing about the Toymaker being their father,the idea that the Toymaker got bored enough to create an offspring out of sheer will power or that someone snogged the Celestial Toymaker

@rascal_rae

Ай бұрын

it's the snogging for me

@JokerScribe

Ай бұрын

White Guardian and Black Guardian the the main duo in the ending of this season. That is clear.

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

I imagine he thought of having a child as a game.

@benwasserman8223

6 күн бұрын

There was some impressive hookup scheme in the Celestial Playbook.

@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec

18 сағат бұрын

A god/godddess of creativity isn’t it?

I love how dark the implications are for this scene - just the whole idea of having a Nuclear Winter be the purest form of music with aeolian tones is chilling to the bone.

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

That was a HUGE part of what made Maestro so terrifying to me, even if the large ham acting didn’t quite always land, not just sucking away all music but also all the life in the universe just to have the howling wind

@Lemuel928

Ай бұрын

During..”The Time War..”

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

@@Lemuel928 That took the combined might of the Daleks and The Time Lords at their zeniths, Maestro could do this by themself...

@michaelangel6165

Ай бұрын

​@@Lemuel928maestro just doing it for the lols

@OscarOSullivan

29 күн бұрын

I love how they made the toymaker not just a one of his kind but he has a daughter and grandson. The elemental forces are Doctor Who villains with a lot of potential to to explored and teased out.

I feel so sorry for the TARDIS. She's probably only just healed herself over the Flux and the Reset that was needed to banish its implications... And now she's at the mercy of the Toymaker's Legions and in this case, his child.

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

Indeed, no wonder The Doctor tried to kiss it better and beg her forgiveness

@chrisa.k.1531

Ай бұрын

Yeah, Donna shouldn’t have coffee in the consol room ever. But does that mean that this Tardis would have the same trauma and scars as the original Tardis since this one is a copy created during “a state of play”

@pushingdasies1

Ай бұрын

To be fair. It's been about a 6 month time skip from Christmas.

@Robert-tl2vg

Ай бұрын

You’re assuming she as a pronoun?

@riphunter1569

Ай бұрын

@@Robert-tl2vgwatch the doctor’s wife episode from series 6

“Daddy was so BAAAAAAD TO ME!”

@friday6448

Ай бұрын

"Daddy daddy'd me" wtf Toymaker...

@Lemuel928

Ай бұрын

(And I thought the Master has masterful skills..)🤔

@shannonseltzer

29 күн бұрын

I’m going to have that stuck in my head now

@MLaak86

28 күн бұрын

The switch between almost polite and personable to more animalistic was quite something.

@ksnotrollin.

28 күн бұрын

@@friday6448🫣

The maestro was such a great combination of charming and menacing with how unhinged they were. Could go from everyone’s favorite music teacher to a killer who stays to listen to you scream

@chrisa.k.1531

Ай бұрын

And use them for their “Symphonie Macabre” 🎻🩸🔪

@sarahberkner

27 күн бұрын

In other words, a music teacher. Jk but music teachers can be strict.

The Maestro serving full-on “Ursula” in this clip, like an octopus across the top of the piano…

@bandersnatch9469

Ай бұрын

I thought it was giving Divine, like in John Waters' films

@cosplaysbygus

Ай бұрын

I mean, Ursula was inspired by Divine itself. So...​@@bandersnatch9469

@mitchc.2660

Ай бұрын

​@bandersnatch9469 Well, Ursula is based on Divine, so both are fairly accurate.

@bookfish

14 күн бұрын

It's a crime that they didn't cast Jinx as Ursula. Casting a drag queen would've been a full circle for a character, who was based on a drag queen. And Jinx is totally giving the vibes and they even have the voice for it.

The callback to Music of the Spheres was pretty cool.

@girraduck

Ай бұрын

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED

@ae7277

Ай бұрын

New to Doctor Who, can you explain it please

@Azrael666Azazel

Ай бұрын

Well, the music of the spheres is a Greek concept too that the Doctor’s music is based on. It dates back to Pythagoras

@ae7277

Ай бұрын

@@Azrael666Azazel Thank you.

@Zoras88

Ай бұрын

@@ae7277 Musica Universalis. The old theory that the movement of the universe, the stars, planets, all of it moves in a mathematical form that can be translated into sounds or music. The frequency at which all things resonate on an ethereal level.

I think Maestro is visually and somewhat thematically based on the Music Meister, a villain from Batman: TBATB, also played by Neil Patrick Harris.

@bushidotestu1997

Ай бұрын

The first outfit they were in definitely gave that vibe

@rhodrage

Ай бұрын

On top of that she reminded me of Supergirls Music Master, who was a 5th dimensional being.

@rexduis467

Ай бұрын

Thanks for that. I missed that one.

@emilythezeldafan848

24 күн бұрын

the tim drake reference in this episode makes this seem a lot less unlikely LMAO

3:11 ik it says it’s a distorted version of the Doctor who theme, but the first 8 notes or so sound suspiciously like the masters sound of drums.

@marsplease

Ай бұрын

The Disney plus subtitles say it's the Saxon theme, so you're probably onto something

@michaelnash5542

Ай бұрын

The two have the same rhythm, which is what makes the idea it's the heartbeat of a time lord so clever

@Lemuel928

Ай бұрын

Here come the drums?

"...that would be telling, babes." "NOOO ...babes!" I don't know why but his reaction gets me lmfaoo

I can't get enough of Maestro's facial expressions and body language. The way they move is like a predator toying with their prey. When angry, they are almost feral. My new favorite villain.

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

Indeed, I think some speech didn’t quite land but the swapping between being calm and in control wanting an audience to being a hungry predator was amazing

@Sparx632

Ай бұрын

@@jokerface0xnot even remotely correct

@jokerface0x

Ай бұрын

@@Sparx632 cry about it. What you going to do cancel me?

@Sparx632

Ай бұрын

@@jokerface0x the irony of telling me to cry about it when you’re going out of your way to be a prick for no reason.

@jokerface0x

Ай бұрын

@@Sparx632 sad that you care…

I love how unhinged & chaotic Maestro is -- yet at the same time, charismatic! Reminds me of something akin to 'Alice in Wonderland,' that same kind of madness. Jinkx played the villain perfectly!

@MLaak86

Ай бұрын

Especially in taking the new characterisation of Toymaker and giving it a distinct shift, enough to show relation but individuality

@davidchism6081

28 күн бұрын

Like the queen of hearts with a little bit of mad hatter mixed in?

@goolgepl2112

10 сағат бұрын

Runs in the family.

The Celestial Toymaker and The Celestial Maestro, Father and Daughter, Being of Games and Essence of Music itself both incarnate.

@PintheDog

27 күн бұрын

I wouldn't say "daughter." Just "child." Maestro's either supposed to be genderless or nonbinary, hence being called "they."

@commandermoldavite7205

27 күн бұрын

@@PintheDog understood, thank you

@sharonspears-mandeville2369

20 күн бұрын

*_Fry suspicious squint_* If the Grand Toymaker has begat a child, _whom *had been the essential mother of*_'said Maestro here, I may ask here honestly..? The Toymaker being a Father...Too many questions...

It would be awesome and funny if they kept up the trend of the Toymaker’s Pantheon all being played by American actors

@christianchan1144

23 күн бұрын

Hopefully RuPaul, Nymphia Wind, Jesse Eisenberg/Elijah Wood, or even one of the oldies.

@repulser93

17 күн бұрын

Have one played by Scott Bakula.

@abbycollins

10 күн бұрын

@@christianchan1144rupaul as a fashion or art villain would be hilarious

@Awesome_Pichu

Күн бұрын

​@abbycollins Imagine of they were color, causing another sort of disaster that leaves the universe devoid of all color

@abbycollins

3 сағат бұрын

@@Awesome_Pichu THAT would be fun!

I like how you can hear the 10th Doctor and 11th doctors first tardis interior hums along with the cloister bell and the house possessed tardis humming

The Doctor is just at the point where the only equals are beings of pure omnipotents like the Toymaker and Maestro. Makes you wonder what other primordial beings are next? Imagination, creation, destruction, an actual lord of time like Bad Wolf?

@rhodrage

Ай бұрын

The Doctor has already faced Time it's self.

@Howyaduing

Ай бұрын

“ The great intelligence”

@justynhill4814

29 күн бұрын

The “one who wins”.

@sarahberkner

27 күн бұрын

A bedtime story monster made of snot

@ThePsycoDolphin

25 күн бұрын

Oh yes thats really interesting...not. Make the doctor ludicrously powerful, make his enemies all ludicriously powerful (read, boring). Have episides with no stakes, no grounding, no comtext, no emotional investment or real characters to drive the story forward. Establish ludicrous levels of heightened (pantomine) villians which are defeated week after week with ease, thus reducing their threat to nothing and making any stakes seem pointless. If the doctor can beat 2 gods in like a week then well fuck it then nothings really a threat then is it? Once you reduce the show to gods and heroes, then little people get squeezed out of existence. Its garbage, lazy writing, garbage, lazy characterisation, garbage, worthless drama.

I swear these new enemies in this show make me learn new things about the universe it's extraordinary

@bodelaire6395

27 күн бұрын

An education also would have helped, perhaps? 🤣

@johnhoran9840

26 күн бұрын

@@bodelaire6395 The BOTs they've employed to prop up this dreck are ridiculous, aren't they?

@Alector360

25 күн бұрын

@@bodelaire6395 well we all hated school

@maxenswlfr1877

19 күн бұрын

@@bodelaire6395 Most people don't learn about aolian tones in school

@user-ul8xu8sk5i

7 күн бұрын

@@bodelaire6395 Unless you took music classes, a lot of folks wouldn't know that Aolian is a natural minor scale.

The Daddy verses. 😂😂 I can't.

Jinkx is like a cartoon character brought to life. Love it

@ACtheLegend

Ай бұрын

To be fair, so is The Doctor, in the best possible way of course.

@The_Str4nger

Ай бұрын

It's Doctor Who's version of DC's Music Meister

I'm unsure what fans of Doctor who think of this character, but I quite like this maestro individual. Very much reminds me of British pantomime.

@AuraMilenariaZX

21 күн бұрын

Maestro means the Master in spanish

@abbycollins

10 күн бұрын

OK, so from the basis, I’ve got half of them are being trans phobic assholes and the other half genuinely like her character and performance.

Jinkx Monsoon, your musical performance was nothing short of genius. Condragulations, you are the winner of this week's challenge.

@user-jo3pm2lc9i

Ай бұрын

I'd read this in Ru's voice.

I did find it ironic when the Doctor said the Toymaker would never cheat, when he sort of does. Do you count bending the rules as cheating? It isn't but is in a way.

@hephaestus98

Ай бұрын

Bending rules isn’t cheating. Breaking rules is

@maniaxlives1126

Ай бұрын

The Toymaker exploited loop holes in the rules essentially, if you play games with him? You best make sure the rules are detailed.

@justindixon1586

Ай бұрын

He likes to loophole himself but he’ll never outright cheat. It’s like if you find a discrepancy that lets you keep your house vs holding it hostage and refuses to surrender it. Maestro on the other hand seems to follow their own tune.

@GREATRJ1

Ай бұрын

@maniaxlives1126 exactly, and even then, he will find a way. Especially his lore prior to The Giggle, which made him have stricted rules and actually portrayed him as intelligent. Probably my favourite example for him to rule bend is this. A pawn in chess may only ever move one space forward. Its starting move can be one or two spaces, and it can only take pieces diagonally. He can't really bend the normal movement, but he could bend the starting movement so it can move in any direction he likes. Same with the last one. No space limit is listed in that part and so he can take pieces across the board. Is this cheating? At first glance, yes. Look at it again, and you realise they are not detailed enough. And the Toymaker always makes sure he wins. Who knows if you try the same he'd call forfeit as it might be one of his rules that only he may bend them. And you trying to bend them could break a rule that only the Toymaker may bend them. I wouldn't put it past him. I mainly stick to the Toymaker before The Giggle released (Excluding the racist parts, the costume design was more of a coincidence as the title 'Celestial Toymaker' was in the script before the design phase and they were just reusing one of the Marco Polo outfits for the Toymaker, having a white man wear it was wrong though, same with the infamous N word in episode 2) as The Giggle did outright retcon parts of his lore and completely changed his personality that he may as well be a new a new character FYI. (I'll get into why if you so wish.)

@tickletorture

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I really hate how he pulls this 'fair play' stuff, meanwhile he's 2 V 1ing The Toymaker at catch.

You can tell maestro is a child with the way they move and express themselves. They really are a child with the power of a god and the short fuse of an infant and I love it

"Daddy, Daddy wasn't there!"

@seanconnolly5968

Ай бұрын

“To take me to the fair!”

@Artcat932

Ай бұрын

"To get me a stuffed bear!"

@nicevibe

Ай бұрын

“To change my underwear!”

@flaviarodrigues9401

Ай бұрын

It seems he doesn't care

@daneyal7162

26 күн бұрын

Typical sjw writing

I like Maestro already

@guy3854

Ай бұрын

I was sceptical at first but i was immediately hooked by that performance

PLEASE tell me you guys heard them do the toymaker laugh in the beginning of this episode! Just augh yes two of my favorite people playing linked characters on one of my favorite shows, I LIVE FOR THISSS

jinkx ate this down so hard queen

If Capaldi would have returned maestro would have been the perfect villain to make him cross paths with the 15th Doctor

I fucking love jinkx monsoon so much

That cut from destroyed London to Maestro's place is so smooth!

1:57 wait was that a Doctor Who at the proms reference “music of the spheres.”

@rorieb20

Ай бұрын

Yes

@RealCoolstriker64

28 күн бұрын

No, “Doctor Who at the Proms” is a reference to the ancient concept that the movements all celestial objects is governed by a certain resonance or something. “Music of the Spheres” isn’t a term invented by the show.

I really liked how The earlier scene with Henry Arbinger and maestro set up to explain the concept of a being like the Toymaker having ‘child’

They mean EQ genius. The Doctor is an IQ genius.

Maestro's song about her father sounded similar to What About Debbie, a song based on Addams Family Matters that was on Jinkx's first album

Im eager to see more of these personification beings throughout this era.

@abbycollins

10 күн бұрын

Art and writing would be amazing to see!

An echo undertone in Maestro's voice is the only way this could get better... Still AMAZING job Jinkx!

Maestro is the definition of fabulous

Where does the name "lord temporal" and "bound in salt" come from. I thought doctor won a dodgeball game and time before that a tower of hanoi game against toymaker

@spiralx6249

Ай бұрын

"Lord Temporal" = "Time Lord". And after both Doctors won the game of Catch (in "The Giggle"), Kate Lethbridge-Stewart opened a box on the helipad deck, into which the Toymaker went.

@oscarfrick1236

Ай бұрын

Lord Temporal - Another way of saying Time Lord Bound in Salt - Towards the end of The Giggle, after The Toymaker is defeated and folds up into his box. Kate Stewart takes it and tells a Unit soldier to "Put it in the deepest box and bind it in salt". This is likely also a reference to 14 "invoking a superstition at the end of the universe" by spreading a barrier of salt in Wild Blue Yonder, which they think brought The Toymaker into this universe

@MrKbassett17

Ай бұрын

​@@oscarfrick1236you mean deepest vault not box

@rascal_rae

Ай бұрын

@@spiralx6249 THANK YOU I was out here googling who tf is Lord Temporal lmao

@hootemanny1165

Ай бұрын

Funny -if the doctor was one of them, it would be a more fitting name for them 👀

Easily the best part of the episode

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

3:10 Best part of the scene!

Mystro will be back

"if the Toymaker was a living game you are the embodyment of music itself" so if the Doctor also come from out of the universe, as the timeless child/timelord then... maybe just maybe the Doctor is the embodyment of time...

That scene was the highlight of the episode.

Love soundtrack to this episode. Cant wait for album of this season

Jinx was born to play this role, and she was phenomenal.

Myy farrthherrr

The Toy Maker said his legions were coming. That means more than 1. There will be others. I can't wait!

I'm starting to that these personifications are leading to the reveal of the Doctor, and maaaaybe Ruby, being two as well. Now, I haven't watched since the special yet, so Ruby's backstory could have already been resolved. But the childish and unhinged behavior of Maestro and Toymaker reminds me a lot of how the Doctor has acted sometime, especially in NewWho. They seem to bounce between angry child and unhinged god constantly. This is not a negative. I also wonder if that is going to play into The Doctor being The Timeless Child. The manifestation of time itself: simultaneously old and young, constant but always changing. Cause they're Time.

@ThePsycoDolphin

25 күн бұрын

Thats complete and utter fucking shit. The timeless child is garbage. RTD is keeping it alive on life support by shoehorning it into every fucking reference he can. But its a dead idea. Deam with it. All this stupidity around gods and stuff. Bleh. Remember when doctor who went around in time and space and had adventures? Remember when it wasnt this nuremberg atrocity?

Literally the only thing I’d change is the Maestros name cause it’s too similar to Master lol. I would have called them the Composer or something like that. Besides that Jynx killed that role ngl.

@shemdellashemygd29

Ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with the name

@kristianhappy5069

Ай бұрын

​@@shemdellashemygd29Maestro translates to Master in some countries so it coukd be slightly confusing

Damn, I'd love to see a team up of toymaker and maestro or even just an episode where they both try to invade like that one david tenant episode with the cybermen and darleks

Maestro is one of my top villains ever. I love them. I know that people don’t really like this episode but this is fun.

Haha “I’m going solo..” 😂

Where there is sound, there is music. Any sound can be music.

You can just about hear the groaning as Maestro starts messing with the Tardis

Just like their dad, the Maestro has a flair for showmanship

SOOO so glad I rewatched this scene with subtitles because I did not catch ANY information when I watched it with my family cuz my dad thinks subtitles are annoying XD

@shemdellashemygd29

Ай бұрын

Bet you got goosebumps reading it back

3:12 The Drums! Never shopping Drums!

Maestro: And anything that plays a tune is mine! Sutekh: Hold my beer.

Love that 4th wall breaking

Toymaker, Maestro...I think it is clear where this is all heading. The White Guardian and the Black Guardian.

0:33 Ok in my opinion that is a pretty badass title

I love the Maestro!

3:11 Does anyone else think of "The Master Vainglorious" from that discordant rhythm of four?

Forgive me for asking this but who's the Lord Temporal?

@michaelliggett1622

Ай бұрын

Time lord basically their talking about the doctor

What's the melody 3:33 ? Is it a song or just a bit?

I love this villian!

I honestly wish she had a full song to herself in that episode

Amazing!

"A genius!"

we just wait for the rani and then maybe the valeyard

JM is so made for this. Beauteous. Can we also have more queens - Monet XChange, Shea Coulee, GiGi Goode, come on, give them all a spot.

Maestro feels like a Deadrising villain.

I’m such a huge Jinkx Monsoon fan that I’m on her side even if she’s playing a villain

Hot take: I don't think Maestro is a very powerful villain or even a good villain, BUT Jinx' performance is absolutiely captivating, when they are on the screen you want to watch them completely, and that sense of play they bring, the maddest of mad caps, makes up for everything Maestro lacks

@shemdellashemygd29

14 күн бұрын

They are powerful.

when it comes to these Legions, it's like The Toymaker was the only one keeping these crazy kids in check

@christopherbennett5858

Ай бұрын

Distracting them through play.

@sharonspears-mandeville2369

20 күн бұрын

Which begs the question-Whom was their Mother,and what role did she play..? Well,assuming (that/) the Toymaker had a partner (Playmate?) in crime that he probably fawned over and she (assuming if she was a she-Not in a discriminatory way here, honestly..) was smitten enough to bear his children here, fortunately...

@Zoras88

20 күн бұрын

@@sharonspears-mandeville2369 they could've budded off

this hardly feels like doctor who

@dudedadric6514

10 күн бұрын

then maybe feel

@To-New-Beginnings.

9 күн бұрын

It does, but then again, whiners just whine. Lol

@DubeIncorperated

2 күн бұрын

This feels exactly like the golden days of Classic Who. Back when he fought magical beings more then he fought Sci Fi creatures.

And a ginger, to boot.

I’m going solo always has me in fits from the facial look 😅

Only reason I watched this clip was for Jynxx Monsoon. She owns this role, especially her reaction to the Doctor accusing her of cheating....! 🌹Flowers for her!

This episode reminds me of a Daniel Thrasher video.

I swear she did the master theme at some point

nah...i think Maestro is of the same species /god/celestial being/ omnipotent creature as the Toymaker and Harbringer ...kinda like the Q from Star Trek Next generation...pain in the neck pranksters with a supiriority complex and crazy powers . Possiblity of relation , maybe but maybe not .

Jinkx is amazing as Maestro!

My only issue with this episode is it's an episode about the beatles and they didnt play a single beatles song 😂

Need more input before I can decide my final thoughts on the Maestro, but right now, they're mid to me. Also kinda conflicted they are part of the Toymaker's legion as I like the name as an altered version of the Master like Missy and be a lame twist if they revealed to be the master, especially since the season just started.

@shemdellashemygd29

Ай бұрын

W villain

and when she said genius she started with the Master's lietmotif, hmmm

Mother Monsoon

I loved maestro and I knew she had something to do with the toymaa😢

Can't tell who did this villain better, Dr Who or Rick and Morty.

@user-ul8xu8sk5i

10 күн бұрын

Concerto!

3:12 the master was the genius that released the Maestro?

Yup that was enough for me..

@doctorwhovian69356

4 күн бұрын

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

What the actual f*ck have they done to Doctor Who. What is this sh*te?!!

@dudedadric6514

10 күн бұрын

The censoring, like what the fuck that's so funny

Not sure about the new doctor and the companion yet. But the new villains are excellent!!!

@shemdellashemygd29

14 күн бұрын

L take

Makes you question how many children the toy maker has

@alexandertelson3713

14 күн бұрын

And if he has a wife!

@shemdellashemygd29

14 күн бұрын

And a bigger sister👀

@EternalPayne

12 күн бұрын

​@@shemdellashemygd29Queen of Time

@To-New-Beginnings.

12 күн бұрын

Originally, I thought "The One Who Waits" could be another Child of the Toy Maker, that grew to strong, so was banished.

Wait, isn't this guy a Doctor Who version of the Music Maestro from DC?

@MrLCGO

3 күн бұрын

Music Meister just controls people with music like a modern pied Piper. Maestro is basically a god of music, they can be anywhere at anytime in any age

@raspherion

2 күн бұрын

@@MrLCGO Ah okay, thank you for the clarification. I don't watch Doctor Who anymore, just isn't my type of show anymore.

Jinkx as the new incarnation of The Master? Or perhapos The Rani?

@alexandertelson3713

14 күн бұрын

Nope just the same race of the toymaker

@shemdellashemygd29

14 күн бұрын

Watch the 60th anniversary to understand

@To-New-Beginnings.

12 күн бұрын

Besides, RTD said the Master is benched. Good thing to, give the character a break for a few years.

Maestro hated toymaker cause he used music to piss off Batman

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Which he did after being his butler for a while...