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  • @7thHourFilms
    @7thHourFilms2 жыл бұрын

    Watch the FULL LENGTH Reaction Here: www.patreon.com/posts/55173675

  • @ftumschk
    @ftumschk2 жыл бұрын

    23:45 As an hommage, NuWho used exactly the same "handgun-opening" sound effect for the modern Autons :) 40:20 The "Himalayas" were actually filmed in Snowdonia, North Wales.

  • @josefschiltz2192

    @josefschiltz2192

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen the on-location colour film footage of Troughton and co.?

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@josefschiltz2192 Yes, and it's good that we still have it.

  • @josefschiltz2192

    @josefschiltz2192

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ftumschk Almost something miraculous!

  • @mdatkinson92

    @mdatkinson92

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some Auton SFX was used for the Mondasian Cybermen, too.

  • @carlh429
    @carlh4292 жыл бұрын

    The iconic shot of the Third Doctor emerging slowly from his smoking Tardis!

  • @lbd-po7cl
    @lbd-po7cl2 жыл бұрын

    This is the only story to be shot entirely on location and on film, rather than video tape in a studio. The reason being there was a strike at the BBC studios.

  • @moreau1755
    @moreau17552 жыл бұрын

    Re: One thousand million being an American billion, and a British billion being different. That used to be the case, but not any more. A British billion used to be a million million (1,000,000,000,000) but having it different from the USA caused confusion and problems, so in 1974, a few years after the episodes in question, the UK government officially adopted using the smaller American version, so that a billion is now 1,000,000,000 here too. Of course, other countries in the world still use billion to mean the larger amount, so the change hasn't actually eliminated the potential for confusion.

  • @kierenevans2521
    @kierenevans25212 жыл бұрын

    A fair chunk of the Pertwee era owe a lot to the Quatermass serials of the 50s (also remade as Hammer Horror films). Spearhead in particularly has lot of similar ideas and even sequences and shots to the second one Quatermass II.

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres87382 жыл бұрын

    My favorite Classic Era Doctor is Pertwee and my favorite Modern Era Doctor is Capaldi.

  • @loislane7482

    @loislane7482

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clearly a fan of bouffant hair and impressive eyebrows!

  • @bananasaregood8655
    @bananasaregood86552 жыл бұрын

    This is easily one of my favorite pertwee stories! His first season is just so good, and quite a serious grown up tone in general for doctor who. Also this story was completely filmed on location with outdoor cameras because there was a strike at the bbc or sumthing. You will notice how the actors voices echo cus its real rooms not sets. The bbc was thinkin of cancelling dr who all together because the ratings for season 6 were so low and the show had gotten a bit stale. This was kind of like a last test to see if people would start getting more into who again...and yep it was a success!!

  • @domsquared9878
    @domsquared98782 жыл бұрын

    Harold Wilson was still PM when this aired

  • @theevildalek5425
    @theevildalek54252 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say, Pertwee falling out of the TARDIS in Troughton’s costume pretty much 100% confirms that The Ruth/Fugitive Doctor does *NOT* come in between them

  • @7thHourFilms

    @7thHourFilms

    2 жыл бұрын

    If the Time Lords went to the trouble of erasing the Fugitive Doctor's memories, I'm sure they could put her in 2's outfit for 3 to wear. I'm not saying Fugitive between 2 and 3 is correct but it is very much possible.

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@7thHourFilms Agreed. Besides, 3 could have dusted off 2's outfit from the TARDIS wardrobe before he returned to Earth. Jon Pertwee was 5-6 inches taller than Jo Martin, and much longer in the leg; Ruth's stuff simply wouldn't have fitted him.

  • @joshuajoshua2732

    @joshuajoshua2732

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ftumschk Nope Ruth is a future Doctor somewhere down the line with lost memories I believe. She's definately not Pre-Hartnell because her TARDIS is a Police Box and she can't be between 2 and 3 because why would the Time Lords bother to change the Doctors clothes back in 2's outfit makes no sense that would be pointless and a waste of time and also Ruth should not be able to recognise 13's sonic screwdriver so that kind of does rule that theory that she's between 2 and 3 out.

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuajoshua2732 Who says the Time Lords changed his clothes? He could have changed into Troughton's clothes himself, after bursting out of Ruth's smaller outfit.

  • @robvanriot
    @robvanriot2 жыл бұрын

    FAO Dad: It's true that British heatwaves aren't all that hot compared to American heatwaves. But ours feel worse because we have no AC. Did you forget that? 😃

  • @morningcoffeecat2271
    @morningcoffeecat22712 жыл бұрын

    The ending is great "Smith. Doctor John Smith". Jon Pertwee was good friends with Ian Fleming, who wrote the James Bond books, Fleming loosely based Bond on Pertwee because he had spent time in the secret service reporting directly to Churchill and had been in the navy for a long time.

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    True, but I wouldn't say he'd been in for a long time. Like many others - Patrick Troughton included - Pertwee joined the Navy at the outbreak of WWII and left at the end, so 6 years' service.

  • @CRINOTH
    @CRINOTH2 жыл бұрын

    British Prime Ministers during Classic Who were Alec Douglas-Home (1963-64), Harold Wilson (1964-70 and 1974-76), Edward Heath (1970-74), James Callaghan 1976-79) and Margaret Thatcher (1979-90). John Major was PM at the time of the 1996 TV Movie

  • @Darren79
    @Darren792 жыл бұрын

    Jon Pertwee was cast due to his comedy background - his straight performances were few and far between. But when he didn't know what kind of character to go for - they said play it as yourself. So you'll note his performance shift. Pertwee being strangled was the second attempt - the producer rejected the first attempt as he hated what the FX team came up with for the monster.

  • @RoundTheArchives
    @RoundTheArchives2 жыл бұрын

    'Spearhead From Space' notes : Episode 1: Viewing figures = 8.4 million. Chart position = 54. Episode 2: Viewing figures = 8.1 million. Chart position = 57. Episode 3: Viewing figures = 8.3 million. Chart position = 49. Episode 4: Viewing figures = 8.1 million. Chart position = 51. . Transmission dates : 3, 10, 17, 24 January 1970 The storyline was initially commissioned under the title 'Facsimile'. Location filming took place during September, October and November 1969 at a variety of locations including Ealing, Wisley, Hatchford, TCC Condensers in Acton (familiar from 'The Invasion'), the BBC Engineering Training Centre at Wood Norton and Madame Tussauds. Studio recording had been planned for October and November, but union disputes associated with pay levels following the move to colour broadcasting saw the whole production switched to film. Peter Bryant and Derrick Sherwin would soon depart to concentrate on 'Paul Temple', so after first asking Douglas Camfield whether he would be interested in taking over 'Doctor Who', the Head Of Drama (Shaun Sutton) appoints Barry Letts (director of 'The Enemy Of The World'). 'Doctor Who' was now followed in the Saturday night schedules by 'The Debbie Reynolds Show'. During the course of the 70s and early 80s, 'Spearhead From Space' was sold to the following countries : Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Gibraltar, United Arab Emirates, New Zealand, Qatar, Lebanon, Swaziland, Saudi Arabia, Malta, Sierra Leone, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. BBC Audience Reports indicated a somewhat mixed response : "Hardly an adequate substitute for 'Star Trek'...", although newspaper reviews were more generous : "Wins my vote as the best in the lifetime of the series so far'. Also, the viewing figures were a definite improvement on the final few Troughton stories.

  • @kierenevans2521
    @kierenevans25212 жыл бұрын

    There was a strike occurring at the time of production (also affected ITV) over more pay for using colour studio video cameras. Location crews being film were unaffected. The entire story was shot, edited and survives on 16mm film and thus has been given a true HD remaster. Pertwee was in the Navy (hence the tattoo on his arm) and was very lucky not to be on HMS Hood during its fateful meeting with Bismarck at the Battle of the Denmark Strait. He subsequently worked in Naval Intelligence along with Ian Fleming. His Doctor has a fondness for action. 30:10 Not enough money/time to show the Autons breaking the glass. The end is a bit campy, but there are flashes of darker stuff such as dead UNIT driver. This is the 'light' one of the season. 36:30 They say it's a creature designed for survival on Earth. And not the Nestenes true form (eyes narrows at Terror of the Autons)

  • @Darren79
    @Darren792 жыл бұрын

    The producer (Barry Letts) and script editor (Terrance Dicks) who worked on the Pertwee years didn't create the concept for his years so they quickly realised that they had two kind of story options - alien invasions or mad scientist. The next story written by Malcolm Hulke (who wrote The War Games with Terrance Dicks) comes up with a unique solution to not doing either of their two options. I think you'll be surprised by the variety of stories to come.

  • @jacobhogan3208
    @jacobhogan32082 жыл бұрын

    It's such a good thing this episode wasn't a recon/animated episode. I can't imagine it done remotely well like that.

  • @kierenevans2521

    @kierenevans2521

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank goodness we don't have any missing Pertwee eps. Yes I know a lot aren't as they were but at least they exist.

  • @Nosregni
    @Nosregni2 жыл бұрын

    ‘Power of the Daleks’ had to spend a lot of time convincing viewers that the Doctor could change. That was its big problem. Later Doctors didn’t have to do that!

  • @kierenevans2521
    @kierenevans25212 жыл бұрын

    1:04:15 It is in fact the same location as that in the Invasion, BBC Victoria Road.

  • @dcsignal5241
    @dcsignal52412 жыл бұрын

    45 years of being a Doctor Who fan started with watching these episodes at my Gran's house all those many years ago.

  • @theevildalek5425
    @theevildalek54252 жыл бұрын

    During the production of this story, there was industrial action by certain elements of BBC staff that caused numerous problems for the production, including acquiring studio space. Had it been any other story, I think it would have been cancelled (like a certain 4th Dr story which you will get to later). However, because it’s not only the first story of Season 7, it’s not only the first story in colour, it’s not only the first story of a new era, but it was the first story for the 3rd Doctor. This was just a story that could not be skipped so the BBC just had to bite the bullet and let the production team record the story on film & on location, much I bet to their annoyance

  • @Qarth56

    @Qarth56

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if they used different camera rigs or something but the picture quality and cinematography are also miles better in this serial than any other in Classic Who. The hallway scene is almost jarring due to how you never see those kinds of dynamic shots in Classic Who.

  • @theevildalek5425

    @theevildalek5425

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Qarth56 Well it was recorded on Film, not Magnetic Video Tape, and film naturally has a clearer & higher-quality look to it rather then Tape. Also, because it was all recorded on film, the BBC couldn’t wipe it like tape & couldn’t junk it at all, so what we all watch comes from the original master recording, unlike the majority of the Pertwee Era. Film camerasI think were also, while more expensive, a lot smaller & easier to use then tape cameras, so they could do more complex & dynamic shots then they could on film. It’s why they always used film for on location work

  • @user-qv6oz3tc5o
    @user-qv6oz3tc5o2 жыл бұрын

    No, there were no Doctors between the Throughton and Pertwee. However, there is a period of time (from the Doctor's point of view) between the end of "War Games" and the beginning of "Spearhead From Space" when he was doing various forced labor for the Time Lords(apparently, they decided to add this to his sentence in the last moment) before being executed/forced to regenerate into Third Doctor. This period is usually labelled "Season 6B" and appears in some expanded universe material... and also, apparently, in "Three Doctors", "Five Doctors" and "Two Doctors" - this is from where the Time Lords bring the Second Doctor into all of these stories(this is the only part in the Second Doctor's timeline from where it would make logical sense for them to be able to bring him). The "Power of the Daleks", I think, is one of the best Dalek stories in the entire Classic Who. However, there is a "small" problem. While it is a great "Dalek story", it is a mediocre "Second Doctor story", and just bad "new Doctor introduction" story. "Spearhead" is actually one of my all-times favorite Classic Who stories. The great introduction of the new Doctor, really good characterisation (Brigadier and Liz, the poacher character, or even the Nesteen Hivemind as a concept), nice mix of action and humor... It's sad that such a great script had opened a "low budget" era of the show... (although I feel that way about all four stories of season 7, honestly). Comparing Liz to Barbara is something I had never thought about (neither even heard about previously). Probably there are never too many intelligent female companions :-) Also probably, the Dad is going to love Romana (the Fourth Doctor's companion)

  • @lapelcelery42

    @lapelcelery42

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's interesting. I actually think Power of the Daleks is one of the best new Doctor introduction stories, up there with Robot and Spearhead. The second Doctor is very impressive in that one, although he certainly isn't the same character he would be later in his run. What don't you like about it in that sense?

  • @user-qv6oz3tc5o

    @user-qv6oz3tc5o

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lapelcelery42 Sorry for such a late reply (whole month!). The Power of the Daleks is a bad introduction story for the Second Doctor, I think, because there is so much going on (The Daleks themselves, the war between the Governor and the rebels, Bragen playing both sides to became the supreme ruler himself, Lesterson's well-intentioned, but delusional plans to use the Daleks for the common good) that there is little time left to properly introduce the Second Doctor's character.

  • @lapelcelery42

    @lapelcelery42

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-qv6oz3tc5o Hmmm. I actually might agree with that.

  • @mrscsi6472
    @mrscsi64725 ай бұрын

    19:41 50% on location? try 100%. The soundstages weren’t ready for the filming of the first story. They had to rush this story by shooting entirely on location and with 16mm film. That’s why this episode looks and feels so unique.

  • @davidlow862
    @davidlow8622 жыл бұрын

    Colin Baker's Doctor was about to say him name once, when Peri cut him off, lol.

  • @jch13213
    @jch132132 жыл бұрын

    "In official UK statistics the term is now used to denote 1 thousand million 1,000,000,000. Historically, however, in the UK the term billion meant 1 million million 1,000,000,000,000 - but in the United States the term was used to refer to 1 thousand million."

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whether he was right or not, I remember a (British) teacher explaining the British system as: One (m)ono-illion = one set of 6 zeroes: 1 ,000,000 One (bi)-illion = two sets of 6 zeroes: 1, 000,000, 000,000 One (tri)-illion = three sets of 6 zeroes: 1, 000,000, 000,000, 000,000 ...etc Although we've now adopted the American system, the British one seemed logical to me.

  • @joshuajoshua2732
    @joshuajoshua27322 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to The Jon Pertwee Era one of my all time favourite Doctors. In glorious colour. The Brigadier is not considered or classed as a companion he's more of a recurring offsider. Now regarding "The Power of The Daleks" once again you have to remember the whole reason they created regeneration in the first place was because William Hartnell was too ill to continue and had trouble remembering his lines and was difficult to work with the word "regeneration" wasn't used he was simply renewed when they filmed this they were unsure if it was going to work whether the audience would accept it or not and this was not intended to be an ongoing thing but Troughton wanted to do 3 years. You go on about why The Second Doctor wasn't what you were use to seeing him because it was to let the audience question to whether if he was really the Doctor could you trust him or not which was why Ben was suspicious all the way through but by Episode 6 of course it was certain yes he was definately The Doctor that Ben and Polly knew. Regeneration was a new thing in 1966 and it wasn't a bigger deal back then like they make it today it was just here a new Doctor that was it moving on and they had the Daleks in his first story so it could give the audience time to settle in with a new Doctor so they needed a familiar foe but children also wanted the Daleks they didn't care about the Historicals or politics or that. It's one of those stories including The Tenth Planet Episode 4 I would jump for joy to see recovered and found. I don't think it would make sense to have the old companion cameos because they wouldn't know this Doctor so it would be pointless. Your going to have to get use to the silliness too there's going to be alot of that which is one of the reasons that makes Doctor Who enjoyable this an entire new era at this stage no longer a children's program. The regeneration between Troughton and Pertwee adding in another Doctor wouldn't make sense because why would The Time Lords bother to put The Third Doctor back in Troughtons outfit that would seem rather pointless to me The Ruth Doctor is a future Doctor that's lost her memories that's the theory I'm going with until it's confirmed.

  • @TheZodiacz
    @TheZodiacz2 жыл бұрын

    Ben and Polly had three stories with the first Doctor- The War Machines, The Smugglers and The Tenth Planet (12 episodes), Lethbridge-Stewart had two with the second Doctor (14 episodes, although he didn't appear in 3 of those) so they had about the same time together on TV.

  • @glennmaloney4962
    @glennmaloney49629 ай бұрын

    This was the only episodd entity shot on film, and as a result it was converted to blu ray

  • @blacktronlego
    @blacktronlego2 жыл бұрын

    An alternative theory is that his original punishment did involve doing missions for the Time Lords, but did not force a regeneration or exile, this explains how an older Second Doctor appears with the brigadier in 'The Five Doctors' and an older Second Doctor and older Jamie appear in the Sixth Doctor story 'The Two Doctors'. Jamie's presence means he must have picked Jamie up again, perhaps the Time Lords realise he works better with a companion, but after this they carry out the forced regeneration and exile punishment.

  • @melvyncollins7305
    @melvyncollins73052 жыл бұрын

    Pertwee was born in 1919, Troughton in 1920.

  • @Duncan_Hart
    @Duncan_Hart2 жыл бұрын

    Given all the available evidence on screen and throughout classic Who Ruth is pre Hartnell. Probably. 😀🤦‍♂️ He's wearing Troughton's clothes. Not Ruth's. TROUGHTON's 👍

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Thomas Meehan Exactly - it's just fiction, and given the uniquely flexible format of Doctor Who, almost anything's possible. For example: Having regenerated into a male body, Pertwee reused Troughton's clothes because they suited him better than Ruth's. They'd have fitted him better, too; Jo Martin has a well-built frame and is 5' 9" tall, but Pertwee was thin and leggy, and fully 5 inches taller.

  • @Darren79
    @Darren792 жыл бұрын

    When they completed the location filming (including Madam Tussauds), the BBC had a strike (as they often did in the 70's) so all the scenes due to be shot at BBC Television Centre had to be filmed on BBC premises (UNIT HQ, Hospital). Some of the sets were erected (Auton HQ, factory office, UNIT Tent) at a film studio. The Doll factory was part real doll factory, part stock footage and part general disused factory. Jon Pertwee had a lisp. Pertwee's Spearhead performance is an anomaly as you will quickly see.

  • @MuchWhittering
    @MuchWhittering2 жыл бұрын

    Been wanting to do a watch through of the 3rd Doctor for a while, since I've not seen quite a few of his stories. Just watched Spearhead from Space now, and I certainly enjoyed it. Due to production issues, this entire story had to be shot on location on 16mm film. Because of this, in 2012 they were able to remaster the entire thing in HD, the only Classic Who story that is able to be 100% native HD. When the Doctor takes a shower, he has a tattoo, which obviously doesn't really make sense, given he's just regenerated. I believe the EU has explained it as a Time Lord prisoner marking. Nowadays a British billion is the same as an American one. Decades ago we switched to be consistent, but back then I think we still used the old system. 59:00 That kind of product placement would be illegal under British advertising law. Certainly on the BBC.

  • @blacktronlego
    @blacktronlego2 жыл бұрын

    I'm told that due to a strike at the BBC, none of this is studio based, it is all location and thus shot on film. Those really are offices and a hospital. Mannequins are creepy! 23:27 He does jump around a bit in some episodes. This Doctor is supposed to be an expert in Venusian Karate and Aikido. It's true. we have had to start using the American billion to avoid confusion but historically a British billion was a million milllion 1 000 000 000 000. I think it was Jamie who first called him John Smith because it was on a piece of equipment in the room where he was being questioned. John is the most common male first name (or was) in the UK and Smith is the most common surname.

  • @josephryan362
    @josephryan36211 ай бұрын

    Jon Pertwee is my second favourite doctor who and the bridger is one of my favourite doctor who companie

  • @whobp8
    @whobp82 жыл бұрын

    Funny that you mentioned One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest in your reaction as I'm currently reading the book. This story was shot entirely on location (and thus on film) because a technician's strike at the BBC was keeping them out of the studio. Producer Derrick Sherwin has a cameo as the parking garage attendant whom the Doctor refuses to show a pass or give his name to when he shows up at UNIT HQ.

  • @richardlemin7840

    @richardlemin7840

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whobp8: I played Chief Bromden in a stage version in 1976.~Dad

  • @alexthehunted
    @alexthehunted2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why people make a big deal about of the doctors name its John Smith he says it at the end of this story

  • @booth2710
    @booth27102 жыл бұрын

    I remember reading once that there was a period during the run of the show when production budgets became very tight so for a good run of episodes there was a 'return to earth' for a series of story lines as this saved them a lot of money creating props backgrounds and scenery for in space settings etc

  • @josefschiltz2192
    @josefschiltz21922 жыл бұрын

    Third Doctor: "Ah, yes, Alex and . . um, um, um, . . Richard! . . Haven't we met before? Alex, you're fast becoming prolix and I've got a . . oh, BLAST IT! Now look what you've made me do! Honestly, the lab is full of smoke and that's the absolute ruination of a pan of welsh rarebit! Well, at least I've some cheese left for a sandwich. Hmm, hmm, hmm. So, you've reached the era of colour! Well done and mostly complete. Well, it was where I left it. I think! Oh Christopher Columbus! Now, it's set the sprinklers off. I think I left an umbrella around here somewhere . . Well, you might get through most of it this side of Christmas . . mm . . or maybe next Easter . . erm, Toodle-pip!

  • @markbelsom3174
    @markbelsom31742 жыл бұрын

    Pertwee does talk with a slight lisp. Also the Tardis prop by the Pertwee era had seen better days.

  • @slayguy86
    @slayguy862 жыл бұрын

    It was originally meant to be shot in studio, but due to a strike at the BBC the whole story was filmed on on loaction using 16mm film instead, it's transfer to HD was very straight forward as a result.

  • @natsmith303
    @natsmith3032 жыл бұрын

    Okay, so the way Alex is explaining the Season 6B theory isn't "wrong," but it is putting the cart before the horse. *cracks knuckles* The theory is borne out of the fact that: a) In The Five Doctors, Two is aware of Jamie and Zoe's departure from his company, as well as their memory erasure. b, and more importantly) In The Two Doctors, Two and Jamie are doing covert missions for the Time Lords, something which Six seemingly has no memory of. Starting in 1995, fans began to speculate that the Second Doctor's execution was interrupted by the Celestial Intervention Agency so that he could do missions for them. Apparently it's significant that the same actor who played the main Time Lord in The War Games (i.e. the one who announces his sentence) also played Chancellor Goth in The Deadly Assassin. Although I can't figure out why those two being the same character would have any bearing on the CIA's involvement, since Goth didn't appear to be affiliated with them? But I digress. This was then made semi-official in 2005 when Terrence Dicks, yes, the same guy who co-wrote The War Games and wrote The Five Doctors, published his novel World Game, in which exactly that happens. The ending of the novel then has the Doctor petition his employers to allow him to travel with Jamie again, at which point the two are sent on the mission that comprises The Two Doctors, and it's implied that the Doctor snuck off for a bit and probably wound up in The Five Doctors. Season 6B has been more-or-less treated as real by the BBC ever since, including having its own dedicated page on the Classic Series section of their website. But that hasn't stopped some fans and some writers from actively ignoring it. Most notably, there's a Big Finish story called The Black Hole in which (SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS) the Doctor and Jamie are recruited mid-Season 5 by the Meddling Monk who is posing as a Time Lord Constable. The Two Doctors takes place entirely between Episodes 2 and 3, effectively making it one, long adventure. As in the regular 6B theory, their memories are wiped at the end of this adventure to fit with the Sixth Doctor's lack of familiarity. As with pretty much any aspect of DW expanded media (and even some parts of the TV show itself...), it's up to each individual fan what they consider "canon." I prefer The Black Hole, both because I just have a bias toward performed media, especially since they were still able to have both Frazier Hines (as both Jamie and the Doctor) and Deborah Watling in it, and because it's much more emotionally satisfying to me to not overcomplicate the ending of The War Games by saying, "But actually, no." However I don't begrudge the fact that 6B has been around for much longer and is still well-respected among other fans. Where that (finally) connects to the Fugitive Doctor is that people noticed she 1) was working for a branch of the Time Lords, 2) was not remembered by Thirteen, 3) had a style of TARDIS similar to the Hartnell/Troughton years, 4) appeared to have little interest in the Sonic Screwdriver, suggesting she came before its use became commonplace. All of this put together would be consistent with a Season 6B Second Doctor suffering a fatal injury during his adventures and regenerating unexpectedly. And even in light of The Timeless Children story, some are still clinging to this for the Fugitive specifically, either because they really don't want to acknowledge that reveal as canon and/or because she is shown to have the police box exterior, suggesting a post-An Unearthly Child placement. EDIT: In fairness, I would like to add that 6B does have an impressive amount of circumstantial evidence supporting it, considering none of the writers intended it. These include: 1. Between the Second Doctor (as of Tomb of the Cybermen) and the Fourth (as of Pyramids of Mars), apparently 250 years passed. Yet, especially since the Third was in exile for most of his life, there are very few gaps where the Doctor could have aged that much without either Jamie or Sarah Jane getting noticeably older. 2. The Masque of Mandragora reveals the secondary control room, which is heavily implied to have once been the primary control room for the Second Doctor, something never shown onscreen. 3. Here in Spearhead From Space, Three rocks up with a device that can hone in on the TARDIS' location, something Two was never shown to have. So, yeah, I never want to claim Season 6B doesn't make sense. It's actually quite coherent on an intellectual level, just less so on an emotional level. The BBC's webpage on the subject also floats the possibility that a one-off line early in The Creature From The Pit, where Romana concludes that the Doctor removed an emergency transceiver because Gallifrey kept asking him to do things for them, is the event that finally ended this period of the Doctor's life, although I haven't seen anyone else who holds to that. EDIT 2: It also occurred to me in the process of putting all of this together that pretty much all of the major beats here happened a decade apart from each other. 1985 saw The Two Doctors, 1995 saw The Discontinuity Guide which put forward the idea, 2005 saw World Game, and 2015 saw The Black Hole. Just one of those weird, wild coincidences. EDIT 3: I completely forgot to mention that Big Finish is (seemingly) coming out with a 6B boxset next July called "Beyond War Games." So that could be awesome, since BF rarely disappoints.

  • @MrPaulMorris

    @MrPaulMorris

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 6B idea really originated in the Doctor Who Comic which needed to fill the gap between War Games and Spearhead without knowing who would be cast for the Third Doctor. Their solution was to just continue writing for the Second Doctor. In terms of broadcast 'canon', the clearest support is indeed the Two Doctors where it is in fact directly stated by the Doctor that he carries out non-attributable actions for the Time Lords as "the price of his freedom". Not only are the Doctor and Jamie visibly older but the Doctor also has equipment that he didn't possess during his initial run.

  • @natsmith303

    @natsmith303

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrPaulMorris I've never put too much stock into the Doctor and Jamie's apparent age, possibly because I came to The Two Doctors after having seen Time Crash, where the shorting out of the time differential is given as the cause of the Fifth Doctor's appearance.

  • @jcortese3300
    @jcortese33002 жыл бұрын

    This is THE Doctor, and will always be my fave. Pertwee rules!

  • @richardhughes9255
    @richardhughes92552 жыл бұрын

    This story was filmed completely on location as BBC TV Centre was out of action due to strike action. Normal, studio bound service will resume in the next story.

  • @sirsamfay99
    @sirsamfay992 жыл бұрын

    A good story for the start of Jon Pertwee's era ,based on the 1967 film "They came from beyond Space".

  • @glenmcculla6843

    @glenmcculla6843

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's also got quite a bit in common with the 1965 film 'Invasion', which was written by Robert Holmes.

  • @sirsamfay99

    @sirsamfay99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@glenmcculla6843 I met Ric Young who played the alien that was injured at the beginning of "Invasion" around 12 years ago during my work. When I mentioned this film he said "Don't you know my more recent stuff" ,I said "No apart from the Tomorrow People". His face twisted LOL.

  • @wellington-rq2br
    @wellington-rq2br2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, they could go all over the world! Never lose that optimism! Although... how do you feel about south east England?

  • @wellington-rq2br

    @wellington-rq2br

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Richard Lemin Devon is a very nice part of the world, as is the rest of the west country. I hope you make it across.

  • @FarazIFM
    @FarazIFM2 жыл бұрын

    prepare yourself cuz the 3rd doctor has a bunch of different outfits throughout his run

  • @MrEvers
    @MrEvers2 жыл бұрын

    Not everyone had a colour TV at that time, so it would be strange to mention it, I think.

  • @CRINOTH

    @CRINOTH

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I read somewhere that 1977 was the first year in which colour TVs outnumbered b&w TVs here in the UK.

  • @kierenevans2521

    @kierenevans2521

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CRINOTH I've also read something similar. Also 405-line was still being transmitted until 1985.

  • @Mrazmatmahmood
    @Mrazmatmahmood2 жыл бұрын

    First of all, 'The Power of the Daleks' is better.😅 Now that we've got that out of the way, I have to say that I love this story too. It's definitely the perfect way to introduce this new Doctor and whole new era for the show. This story really eases you into the new tone of the show with a very effective back to basics approach, but the other stories in this season are anything but 'back to basics'. They're some of the most mature morality tales Doctor Who has ever attempted. Many people would argue Doctor Who has never been more adult than in this season. Very much looking forward to see what y'all think of the rest of this tremendous season! P.S. It's funny how y'all say that y'all find the four parters to generally be better than the longer stories. Well, 15/21 of Troughton's stories were five parts or longer ('The Dominators' and 'The Mind Robber' were the only five parters. The other thirteen were all six parts or more) and y'all enjoyed the majority of those stories. The length of a story has very little to do with how good it is, it's the quality of the writing. Just as an example, 'The Keys of Marinus' isn't bad because it's too long. The pace is actually pretty quick throughout, but that's one of the biggest problems. They waste the story's main premise and give each of the episodes their own, random and disconnected plots that need to get wrapped in 25 minutes. 'The War Games' is the exact opposite and is the prime example of how longer stories an be brilliant if the writers know what they're doing. I can assure y'all that the remaining three stories in this season, despite all being seven parters, are all really well written. Y'all have already watched the first four parts of 'The Silurians' at this point, so y'all probably (or hopefully) get where I'm coming from by now.

  • @7thHourFilms

    @7thHourFilms

    2 жыл бұрын

    "First of all, The Power of The Daleks is better." How it all began. And how it shall begin again...

  • @Mrazmatmahmood

    @Mrazmatmahmood

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@7thHourFilms Unless you rewatch the story and then do a discussion video on it, I hope y'all never mention Power again after this!😂

  • @7thHourFilms

    @7thHourFilms

    2 жыл бұрын

    I will make no such promises! Though, I can't foresee a reason to bring it up again.

  • @kierenevans2521

    @kierenevans2521

    2 жыл бұрын

    I prefer Spearhead

  • @Aqib2

    @Aqib2

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am on the later seasons and I can say I like 2-4 parters over 5 or more. I know the show is slow paced but some stories are just a chore to watch. Like imagine watching a bad episode today like "Fear Her" except its 4 parts and just annoyingly long and slow.

  • @willydadog2
    @willydadog22 жыл бұрын

    ah yes the doctor first instants of stealing from a hospital

  • @kathrynconway4912
    @kathrynconway49122 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the 3rd Doctor!! Just a quick question to Alex's dad: If any of the missing episodes turned up, would you be up for watching them on KZread? Love this story so much!!

  • @sirsamfay99

    @sirsamfay99

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think any more will turn up ,that's it ,but I very much hope I am wrong.

  • @kathrynconway4912

    @kathrynconway4912

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sirsamfay99 Who knows? 🤞🤞

  • @kemmdog4444
    @kemmdog44442 жыл бұрын

    If I’m not mistaken that is the same building from the end of The Invasion.

  • @jeckjeck3119
    @jeckjeck31192 жыл бұрын

    James Bond Doctor.

  • @TheGreatLordDufus
    @TheGreatLordDufus2 жыл бұрын

    On the talk of going from B&W to colour : there's a scene from The Auntie Jack Show (don't ask, off the wall comedy of its time) where they made the transition to colour in Australia mid-show. "Dad" might like that. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qH2l08uEZNHJltY.html

  • @lesleycutts9255
    @lesleycutts92552 жыл бұрын

    You could say that the timelords executed the second doctor by forcing him to regenerate

  • @domsquared9878
    @domsquared98782 жыл бұрын

    Actually the first two Doctors have been referred to as colorblind

  • @markdavidson9100
    @markdavidson91002 жыл бұрын

    Ransome is forgotten about when he’s shot

  • @flaggerify
    @flaggerify2 жыл бұрын

    The Brigadier is not a companion.

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. He was a popular recurring character, but he wasn't there to get into peril nor to ask the "obvious" questions on the audience's behalf, both of which are key functions of the Doctor's Companions, or "Assistants" as they tended to be called back then. Nicholas Courtney never auditioned for that very specific and specialised role, and the true "Companions" during his time on Doctor Who were Jamie, Victoria, Zoe, Liz, Jo, Sarah Jane Smith... and a handful of others that Alex/Dad haven't met yet.

  • @7thHourFilms

    @7thHourFilms

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think that's necessarily the right criteria. I'd say Jack Harkness was a companion because he traveled on the Tardis in multiple consecutive episodes of the 9th Doctor. Yes, Brig isn't traveling but he's a major character in 3rd Doctor stories. I'd say he counts. The reverse is River Song. She's a major character for The Doctor but isn't consistent and doesn't travel with him. That should be how we judge companions.

  • @ftumschk

    @ftumschk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@7thHourFilms It's not really a question of criteria or how we judge things, because "the" Companion has always been a very specific role in Doctor Who, a role that performs certain specific functions. Companions are conceived to be the viewers' proxy, someone with whom they can identify. They're also conceived to be the Doctor's "assistants", practically on a full-time basis, whereas the Brig is technically the Doctor's "boss" (not that the Doctor listens to him that often!). Companions were - and still are - specifically auditioned and cast, often amid great secrecy and fierce competition, because they're such coveted roles. The one exception in Classic Who was Frazer Hines, who made such an impact as Jamie that he was asked to stay on as a companion/assistant. In NuWho, Cpt Jack and Wilf are alone in being credited as "honorary" Companions, albeit only for one or two - but crucially not all - of the stories in which they appeared. The Brig, and other UNIT regulars we've yet to meet, were never credited as Companions, did not audition as such, nor were they promoted into that special role. Being the Doctor's associate, friend, recurring guest character, TARDIS passenger and/or fan-favourite, does not a companion make. If it did, there'd be almost as many Companions as there are Timeless Children by now :)

  • @robvanriot

    @robvanriot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@7thHourFilms The Brig is totally a companion, I'm with you. Not only a companion, but one of the Doctor's closest and best!

  • @flaggerify

    @flaggerify

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@7thHourFilms I wouldn't call Jack a companion either. Being on the Tardis doesn't necessarily make you one. It should be someone designated an assistant to the Doctor or someone who has been invited to travel on the Tardis for general adventures and not a specific mission as in the case of Sara Kingdom.

  • @kellyanderson629
    @kellyanderson6292 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t scan the. Comments but could it have been that the doctor between 2 and 3 didn’t identify as the doctor example war doctor and the valiant

  • @andrewbowman4611
    @andrewbowman46112 жыл бұрын

    With regards to the additional incarnation between Troughton and Pertwee: a possible reason as to why they weren't featured in the later multi-Doctor stories, aside from the obvious, is that only a select group of Time Lords - those working for the Division, itself a secret department of the Celestial Intervention Agency - were ever aware of the Fugitive Doctor. As far as the upper echelons are concerned, the events of this story follow on immediately from The War Games. The truth, however, is far stranger than that.

  • @ListerDavid
    @ListerDavid2 жыл бұрын

    Look up series 6B if you want to fill the gap. This the first 100% filmed on location and used film Quality cameras and film not using tv cameras.

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey158112 жыл бұрын

    I just find this one over rated. It’s just a normal post regeneration story imo and tbh most of them do little for me if I’m honest

  • @Joey15811

    @Joey15811

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Thomas Meehan tbf nearly every universally loved one I find over rated. To me biggest offenders are the Massacre and Vincent and the Doctor. If Massacre survived maybe but as a recon It’s very hard to get into and only the last scene is strong enough to viewers who don’t know that period of history. Vincent and tbe Doctor bar that museum scene…I hate this episode and found it a chore to get through. The Invisible alien chicken thing really ruined the story for me as I found that thing cringey and definitely would have been better as a pure historical with the museum scene imo. Yet both get so much love thet to me it feels like people only are saying that because of their end scenes. This one is the 2nd most over rated after Vincent which that alone has to be the most over rated as I know Massacre does get people Who struggle or don’t watch recons. But this one, Vincent and the Doctor and City of Death I would say are the most over rated stories of all time.i find both this snd City merely average and Vincent terrible.

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