It's good that you are being honest. We are all individuals and can't be expected to always agree. Some will like and some won't and that's fine :) Personally I will not be watching it as I imagine this is a one off and the rest will be woke crap. I'd rather remember the Doctor as he should be !

@GoldenAgeGeek

Ай бұрын

That's fair. 👍🏻

To be honest, mate, it's great to know that you love this episode.Personally, it wasn't my favourite, but if you like it, that's fine. I'm not gonna criticize anyone for liking something. We're all different

@GoldenAgeGeek

Ай бұрын

Exactly!

@master.rivronbro560

Ай бұрын

@GoldenAgeGeek But what I did like even though it was a little bit small, was the mention of the 15th doctor loving fish fingers and custard. I thought that was a really nice scene. Considering Steven moffatt Wrote this episode

@colinmoon8097

Ай бұрын

The original idea that the Dr could only regenerate 13 times was so accurate - Now Dr. Who is nothing like the original idea.

Gatwa’s Doctor shows no resilience like previous Doctors. 4th Doctor stood on a landmine but showed great courage. Gatwa’s Doctor cries a few times which is very human but he’s supposed to be an alien. It was better than the previous abysmal episodes but not fantastic. 6/10.

Well, I commend your honesty and appreciation for the episode. For me, pluses include more interesting concept, more restrained energy for the doctor, fewer blanket agenda inserts. But the minuses are larger for me. Even off-hand agenda remarks now irritate me, Gatwa weeps too much without context (longer history with Ruby is necessary ), the angry attack on faith (Anglican) offends me, (as opposed to connotation stretching to beliefs beyond Christian alone), so word choice matters. I guess what it boils down to is language and execution. The ‘fabricated war’ model used as an indictment of capitalism works better if the corporation actually manipulated a real war into existence. The mechanics of how that war proceeds on the battlefield make for compelling thought. Simply put, I might have written this story differently. This is five times better than Space Babies or Devil’s Chord, but on a scale of 1 to 10, when those episodes earned a 1, I can only give this a 5. Ultimately, as a single story it remains tethered to the Gatwa-RTD run. That hurts it. This would fit easily in the last season of Capaldi’s run. Standard Moffat, great concept, marred execution. Keep up the good work, Goldy!

@gladiator652004

Ай бұрын

I too wasn't quite convinced by the "war was faked" idea. Gatwa's not great at the Doc and the relationship with Ruby is odd.

@diviningdragon

Ай бұрын

@@gladiator652004 For me, yes…Gatwa still feels ‘Gatwa’ which is a problem. And I almost feel like they are repeating previous ‘impossible girl’ tropes for Ruby, while trying to fast track a relationship of some kind with Gatwa. Such things take time, and good writing. But RTD admitted in his recent interview that he doesn’t mind repeating elements since this is for a new younger audience. That is a big mistake. This may be a Moffat story, but he’s still forced to service RTD’s agenda.

Yes its a 7/10 for me. Not quite classic Moff, but still good.

@GoldenAgeGeek

Ай бұрын

Agreed!

I didn't have high expectations going into this one but this just proves when Moffat has time & doesn't have pressure on his shoulders. He writes master pieces. That was truly one of the best episodes we have had in the last five seasons. Made me feel like a child again tbh with how tense it was from start to finish. I felt Moffat gave Ncuti & Millie loads of good chemistry that didn't feel forced which is exactly what the new era needs. Dare I say this is somehow one of the best episodes of New Who aswell. If the show is to survive the writing needs to be held to this standard. Massive solid 9/10 from me.

@colinmoon8097

Ай бұрын

the largest number of Dr. Who fans date back to the original idealisms not the current Wokeisms which are self-destructive. Yes let minorities do what they want in private but do not foist them on the majority. The UK is a tolerant society (or was when I was young) but respect the norms.

The dialogue SOUNDS like the doctor and what he would say. The first 2 episodes don't sound like the doctor at all.

@GoldenAgeGeek

Ай бұрын

💯

Actually, I thought the idea of the 'MAESTRO' was good - badly implemented from the clips I saw - I openly admit I can only see what is shown on KZread.

Haven't watched this (and won't be) but I did see/hear a lot of the usual commentators taking massive offense to the "war is big business" and "religion is the opiate of the masses" tropes that this episode espoused (solid points which are undeniably true to a large point) so credit to you for speaking your mind and not just jumping on the bandwagon. 👍 Side note: I can only imagine how terrific this season would be doing if they'd have cast Idris Elba as the Doctor and just let the episodes tell the stories without all the messaging insertions getting in the way. But alas...

@GoldenAgeGeek

Ай бұрын

In my opinion, Richard Ayoade would have been a great pick for the Doctor.

@mattthesilent777RED

Ай бұрын

@@GoldenAgeGeek Spoiler for my Doctor Who 1990 Reboot Universe

@Agent_86_

Ай бұрын

@@GoldenAgeGeek Good one!

@chrissonofpear1384

Ай бұрын

@@GoldenAgeGeek The religion angle wasn't too subtle, plus Moffat still hasn't fully codified or explained the 'Anglican religion is an army' thing in much depth. Still, there was a bit more nuance in the wrap up, re faith. Overall a 7.5 out of 10, I thought. Bit sketchy in some parts.

I liked it. It was not fantastic, but it was the best story of the season so far. But sadly, by this time, many fans have already tuned out.

@colinmoon8097

Ай бұрын

Dr Who has been on the slide for years, (there was a deliberate attempt to kill off Dr. Who - it failed) but anything Disney gets involved in changes things to wokeism these days.

I disagree: the Doctor acting stupid and being unable to defuse a simple landmine, while loosing his cool? Ridiculous breaking of lore and style. And cooperating staging wars is nothing new, and those wars being for show is nothing new to SF, so no brownie points. But at least not as bad as the last shows before.

Dr Nonce.

That video is too good to watch.

Shite episode...The thing with landmines is you don't know they are there until they explode! Why would lights be on it! He is singing all the time! It is just gash! You also know he is going to make it! Bored with the politics as well.

So the personal insertion of the writers dislike of Christianity is ok then ? I would be more impressed if he had made the soldiers followers of a certain demographic but that is not allowed ? He has done this before, yawn. He makes Dr Who to be a coward and a cry baby not the aeons old hero he really is. Saying you enjoyed this after watching the first 2 train wrecks is scant praise. Don't praise crap just because it is not as crap as that before. It is still crap.