I have done quite of bit of electrical for docks but I was never really sure how they got the post sunk on the non free floating rigs, thanks for the video this was awesome

When cutting thick wood with a Sawzall move the entire blade in and out all the way. The gullets quickly get filled with chips and cannot touch the wood. Sliding the blade out allows the chips to clear out. If the wood is wet or sticky you need to manually clear the gullets .

Built duck blinds and docks/piers on Assateague Island using a gas pressure washer years ago. The poles just slide down into the mud, amazingly simple.

Have worked on dock repairs. One tip for you is copper anti-seize on all bolts the whole length. This will stop it from rusting in the wood. All lag screws same thing. Even after years on a ocean dock they come out. Of course the head the bolt will be ugly. But you got a chance to replace it.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Great Tip. Any particular brand of copper anti-seize you like?

@assassinlexx1993

3 жыл бұрын

@@fixitwise7194 Permatex is what I use. We would put a blob the hole before we drive in a lag screw . You know how lag screws rust in wood. Making impossible to unscrew. The tricky part is not getting it all over your hands. Be safe on the water.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Oh. Automotive ant-seize - COOL!

@likeatr332

2 жыл бұрын

I would avoid using copper if your fasteners are hot dipped galvanized.

@assassinlexx1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@likeatr332 There is zero effect on galvanized bolts / lag screws. It really helps them go in . As galvanized coat can be ruff.

That bit is made for high speed. Ole boy was pushing with all his might. 💪

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Not with that drill. It'll rip your arm off if it binds. Plus. They last longer, less heat.

@onecrazywheel

3 жыл бұрын

Good bit. I own the same auger drill. I'd still use an Auger Bit. They work much better and last much longer. Electricians have used these auger bits for years.

@tomdenny8507

3 жыл бұрын

@@fixitwise7194 A auger bit with a snail lead screw would have worked much better than a spade bit in that application with that low sped drill but in the end you got the hole you needed.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

All my neighbors and I have learned the hard way, that auger bits do not work in these dock pilings (telephone poles). They just bog down. The same is true for these "critical structure" level of treatment 6x6's. I wanted one bit for drilling in both. Another note on the spade bit. What is not evident from the video, is that you can only drill an inch or two, then you have to back out the spade bit. It took the most effort to back out the spade bit, several times during drilling.

@onecrazywheel

3 жыл бұрын

@@fixitwise7194 Good to know. Most times we're drilling out soft pine 2x4's sometimes 6 to 10 or more together thick. The augers work great for that.

I build docks in Jacksonville, Florida and we use a Milwaukee battery powered hammer drill with a 5/8 bit for 1/2" stainless steel all thread through-bolts. nothing corded it takes too long. And we are drilling through 12-15" piles. I do like the fact you got em down that far though clay without a jet pump.

Had to help run some wires at in-laws. Oak beams that were very close and I could not get my drills in. Bought Irwin self self driven bits and tried my 3/8 desalt Impact to get in space. Worked so well I went and bought a 3 pack with a few extensions. They eat thru wood. I retired my1/2 dewalt except for paint stirring.

That's so cool that such a rudimentary water tool can provide such boring action.

Awesome video Thank you for sharing

Use a self - feeding auger bit using a Milwaukee Hole Hawk the Plumber uses, it’s much easier. Great video! Thanks.

Really great video guys

Dude I do the same thing with my mouth when IM drilling! Awesome I’m not the only one

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

HA!

I put in dewatering systems for a living. We use a method similar except with higher volume and pressure to sink our wellpoints

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

A high volume trash pump would have worked a lot better. I just wanted to show it could be done with an irrigation pump. For sure, house water pressure won't cut it!

i have the same circ saw! nice

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

I've had this Skill for 30 years!

Instead of a 6x6 piling, use an 8x8 made up from four 4x4's cut a half inch from the corner of each beam lengthwise. Turn them so the cuts face inward and glue & bolt them together. Bang a fitting on top to connect the hose. Having the outflow centered exactly where you want it will increase your efficiency. Tightbond, after giving it time to dry/ cure will be watertight at least long enough to jet the pilings into the bed.

@fixitwise7194

Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@MichaelBennett-ep3vn

4 ай бұрын

Jesus’s. You really have no business ever working on someone’s property

We use a homemade 8" square steel hand driver to set the posts

This is a great idea Now I just have to build a lake next to my house so I can try this one . LoL 😂

nice

What kind of water pump do I need to get from a rental place? My dock has old 4x4 pressure treated beams. Would be nice to replace the corner post with 6x6. They are all outside post's. nothing in the middle. No special made nozzle jet tip as I have seen others use. South florida sand should be very simple to jet down into on the shore line. Best video I've seen. Thanks. I love the flat head lag bolts. Great idea.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Ask for a "trash pump".

@ednafontalbert6329

Жыл бұрын

NC SALT WATER \ JUST HOME WATER PRESSER WORKS VERY WELL IN OUR MUDD BOTTOM WE USE 13/4 PLASTIC WARER PIPE OR ANY THING YOU HAVE WE GO STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN BESIDE POST AND WORK A HOLE THEY GO DOWN VERY FAST I ALWAYS PLACR TWO INCH BELOW JOSTS AND TROWAY THAT BIT AWAY GET A SELF FEEDING AND HOUSE BOLTS 5/8 GALV. WE ARE BOTHERED WITH MUG WORMS AND TREATED 6X6 ON LAST ABOUT TEN YEARS I AM THINKING NEXT REPLACMENT WILL HAVE SOME MASTIC ON PART IN MUD AND WATER

Lol gotta love the mouth movement like mj before a dunk

Smash the end of the pipe flat for more pressure.

help me out. i have a pond that i want to put up some shoreline post and hold back dirt from yard. the post i put in will only hold back a 3 foot tall shoreline of dirt. how far do you think i should be post into bottom of pond which is only one foot deep at the shoreline?? should i try to pour concrete in it or will the post be sufficient?? i just want a clean looking shoreline as the pond is close to my house. i plan on using a auger from home depot to drill the hole?? what do you think?? thanks turner

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a question for an engineer - it's way above my pay grade ; )

Hello Fix it Wise, can you share some specs on your irrigation/sprinkler pump... what are the ratings for pressure (psi), flowrate (gpm) and/or power (hp)? I will be doing some jetting where it's not easy to get a trash pump in place, but I have electricity so a sprinkler pump might do the trick. Thanks in advance.

@floridatabdigger3104

Жыл бұрын

I'm using a 1 hp pump. The trick is to keep everything 3/4 inch until you get to the nozzle at the end of the pipe and use a stainless steel 3/4 NPT to 5/8 hose barb. That will increase the pressure to blow out sand/rocks. Don't use brass...needs to be SS.

What is the going rate for this?

just wondering...why would someone with waterfront property and a jetty (with boat I presume) bother with DIY piling?

My house water hose has higher volume than that. Water will shoot out on 1/2" pipe 8 feet. We have 1" pex and 120 psi coming to the house

You should have notched the 6x6. Those two bolts are carrying the load.

@dthorne4602

2 жыл бұрын

Jeff Pape - yep, definitely a design flaw.

@tct1w

Жыл бұрын

Nope the sheer strength of a bolt is multiple times stronger than notching syp

Since you knew the depth you wanted to go down could you have predrilled the post ?

@topshelf321

Жыл бұрын

He didn't actually know the depth. When driving pilings you go as far as you can get them to go to get the most holding power you can. All this depends on your equipment and conditions. I drive alot of pilings with my excavator, had some stop at 10 ft and then move over a few feet to do another one it it go in 20ft. If you stop at a predetermined mark and it is not seated good the piling would have a better chance of sinking later with the weight of the structure on it. Especially in his case when only using a water hose and a hammer. These poles aren't going to have alot of vertical friction. The weight of the structure will most like be more than what he was exerting on them so they may sink more.

Nice job on sinking the pilings. The piling to deck connection is the worst way to secure the piling. You should not use the bolts as shear members in the loading. No bueno.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Good point, notched would have been betyer, but it's a 100 times better than the 100% toe nails that the jackleg who built this dock used. Plus, these are non-primary supports, just to take the sag out of the floor joists.

@markc7955

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too. But as a repair, working around the existing structure it’s probably the best idea. It would be very difficult to notch in situ and taking back out to do so would disturb the gravel again. Them bolts have a tonne or two shear strength so I’m sure it’s fine.

@michaellicitra7632

3 жыл бұрын

@@markc7955 You are right. I would put a sister on the post and spread the load among more fasteners on two sides. Like you said it is virtually impossible to get an accurate fitup with a notch - but sistering two pieces to act as load spreaders can be done at any time and with excellent results.

@markc7955

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaellicitra7632 Mr fix won’t tell us but he will be out tomorrow morning doing just that lol.

@dthorne4602

2 жыл бұрын

Michael Lucitra that is exactly what I would do in this situation. Sister in a 3 or 4 foot section and stagger bolts all the way down

I have no understanding of anything in this video due to being a donkey which in turn makes me a Jackass but I still watched to the end as was interested in this video .

@DB-cx6cb

8 ай бұрын

😂

When drilling the post for the bolts we need more information regarding the puckering of the lips while drilling. How does the lip puckering change the dynamics of drilling a bolt hole? 😂

@fixitwise7194

2 жыл бұрын

The technique takes years to develop : )

Ive never seen any dock builder cut points on pilings. The water jet blows everything out and the piling falls to the depth you need.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Most dock builders use a high powered, high volume "trash pump" connected to a 2" hose. Because this demonstrates using a garden hose, connected to an irrigation pump, the point on the bottom of the piling helps with the lower volume. Plus I think I was able to "steer" it better with the point.

@likeatr332

2 жыл бұрын

@@fixitwise7194 is it also worrisome that it might settle and sink easier as well over time?

I really wish you had notched that 6x6 rather than just bolting it, but the water jet is a good idea

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to do that. Except I also needed to jack up these sagging floor joists a couple of weeks later, after I was sure they were settled in. Since these were "non-primary" supports, to take the sag out of the floor joist span - I comfortable with it. I do notch the primary supports at the telephone poles!

Auger drill bit would have made short work of drilling timber ?

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

All my neighbors and I have learned the hard way, that auger bits do not work in these dock pilings (telephone poles). They just bog down. The same is true for these "critical structure" level of treatment 6x6's. I wanted one bit for drilling in both. Another note on the spade bit. What is not evident from the video, is that you can only drill an inch or two, then you have to back out the spade bit. It took the most effort to back out the spade bit, several times during drilling.

@allensandven0

3 жыл бұрын

@@fixitwise7194 well I know from years as a carpenter bridge building you better not take too big of bite with auger bit or be ready for a ride. Tip is to dull the pilot screw at the end of the bit so it give you the Goldie locks feed rate that’s just right !

8:38 hallelujah

Get a pipe that is threaded on the end and screw on a brass pressure nozzle, works even better

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@gunfisher4661

3 жыл бұрын

Yep that`s the DIY way to drill under a sidewalk or driveway to run conduit underneath.

But first he was making a point!

I’d rather hammer it in with a mallet. You lift up a lot of sediment and it’s not as structurally sound.

@okiedoke6373

3 жыл бұрын

You don't have the slightest clue do you its call jetting jetting piling is quite common and it is just as structurally sound in fact the institution of pressure-treated piling instead of creosote treated Wood you have to jet in the pressure-treated pilings because they blow up like freaking toothpicks when you hit him with a diesel hammer or try to shake them in with a vibrator

Why wouldn’t you cut a notch in the piling and let the frame rest on top of the piling instead of having all that weight on 2 bolts?

@FthaPolice

3 жыл бұрын

@Mrbeast if you cut a notch in the piling 5 1/2 inches for the joist to rest on and the piling settles, you can still readjust the bolts an inch or two. Don’t you wanna hit solid ground first anyways so there isn’t any more settling?

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to do that. Except I also needed to jack up these sagging floor joists a couple of weeks later, after I was sure they were settled in. Since these were "non-primary" supports, to take the sag out of the floor joist span - I comfortable with it. I do notch the primary supports at the telephone poles!

Get yourself an auger bit instead of that “spade” paddle bit.

Try a chainsaw for large timbers

What are the environmental impacts of using pressure treated lumber in lakes, its been found to be very detrimental in gardens so I would think its also going to cause a lot of issues with lake ecology?

@fixitwise7194

Жыл бұрын

Out of view tarp below on our paddle boards catches it all. Thanks for your concern though...

@fixitwise7194

Жыл бұрын

Out of view tarp below on our paddle boards catches it all. Thanks for your concern though...

Good video and ideas, however, there's better equipment and easier ways to do this. First, a pressure washer with a long extension is MUCH more effective, and the garden hose won't touch hard pack. Better yet rent a high pressure muck pump from Home Depot and make up some reducing fittings from a 3" line to a 2" line and that will make the garden hose seem like a joke. Also, get a REAL wood bit for those bolts, more expensive, but MUCH better. Just finished a similar project and have one more to go.

@ericlonginotti7556

Жыл бұрын

got any suggestions on the wood bit?

@mrbmp09

Жыл бұрын

​@@ericlonginotti7556 If drilling lots of holes or deep holes use auger bits, harbor freight has them pretty cheap.

This was A LOT of work. And it’s supposed to be the easy way, right ? I wonder how ancient people did this without electricity or power tools.

@bayoujaeger6299

Жыл бұрын

The ancients attached a perpendicular piece of wood to the posts and people lined up on that perpendicular piece. They jumped up and down in unison to sink the post. Now ya know

Hummmm, are you an engineer by any chance? thanks,

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

No comment - your results may vary ; )

@DB-cx6cb

8 ай бұрын

@@fixitwise7194Great advice

Never cut a point on a post holding weight. Doing such won't allow it to have a "base".

What happens if 1 foot down you hit a large rock? How deep did you go?

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Got them down 36". This only works in soil, the sandier the better! It just takes longer with clay soils. A rocky bottom is a no go.

@timothydillon6421

3 жыл бұрын

@@fixitwise7194 if you hit a big rock that sounds like nature's solid footing.

@chas.fournet1087

3 жыл бұрын

1 foot down... ;-p

a few things that made me think i shouldnt trust this video are: 1. when jacking the deck up you attached to a bolt. that bolt could easily have split that board. should have reinforced the bolt entry/exit of the wood significantly first. and 2. when drilling the hole you dont need a special drill, and a spade bit can easily change directions and create a worm hole that is not straight. making it impossible to get the threaded rod through without boroughing out the hold wider in some areas. just seems non-pro. but looks like it gets the job done. I understand a proper bit would have cost $50 but i own a dozen of them for going through 8-36" of lumber with one rod. I would really like the best way to sink a beam in the water and im looking for the best way, not the spade bit way. i'll keep looking.

Hate to see you dropping all of that chemically treated sawdust into the lake. I’m sure the fish appreciate it

@fixitwise7194

Жыл бұрын

Out of view tarp below on our paddle boards catches it all. Thanks for your concern though...

Use a trash pump

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

That would work a lot better!

An auger bit works best don’t listen to this guy

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

OK - Let's do a speed test in telephone poles. Stay tuned for that video.

What do you sound like Minnie Mouse

Nothing new here.

@chas.fournet1087

3 жыл бұрын

@Fixento, you sure bout that? I've been a contractor for decades and I had never seen any of the following done before: 1) Using a back & forth sawing motion with a Sawzall that had power to it 2) Trying to cut with that dull of a Sawzall blade and 3) Cutting a point on a piling to be jetted-in. (BTW, you any relation to "Fit'na"?)

@fixento

3 жыл бұрын

@@chas.fournet1087 Didn't pay that much attention, must be hard steel and tough ground.. In the 1970s I helped a friend jet in a bulkhead along the intercoastal at Port Bolivar. He build a nice house on pilings there. One night during a blue northerner he heard loud noise outside. He went out on the porch and three free from him was the front of a massive barge. The tug lost control of the barges it was passing and the lead wound up in his yard. Had it hit the house it would have taken it down. The tug company replaced his bulkheads and yard, and compensated him for the trouble. No attorneys, a handshake and they were as good as their word. Different world back then.

So unsafe, an electric cord hanging down by water??? Should have bought blades for the saw.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

Saftey First! All GFCI and at least 8 feet above the water. Plus all cord were tied off just for that reason!

@matthewg-yb7zg

2 жыл бұрын

Going on several years of building docks and running extension cords from the onboard generator on the barge and have worked with the cords/plugs under water, even while standing in water and have had 0 issues in 5+ years, older guys at the company who have 25+ years on the job have never had an issue either so I don’t really know how unsafe it actually is in all honesty

@DB-cx6cb

8 ай бұрын

Idiot

might as well put as much chemical sawdust as possible into the water

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

No way! I should have shown my sawdust capturing tarp floating 8 feet below, stretched across two SUPs. Also, the wood I used is approved for lake use.

That sawsall is trash

Pressure treated, I hope it's not public waters that shit kills fish.

@cassidy5099

3 жыл бұрын

So does every piece of plastic you throw out.... just sayin glass houses and all.

@kathybouldin5389

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassidy5099 I recycle, YOUR WELCOME

@mickpospiech1363

3 жыл бұрын

Looking at the colour of the inner rings of that timber, they forgot to turn the vacuum on in the treatment tank. Spitting in the water would be deadlier to the environment.

@fixitwise7194

3 жыл бұрын

The treated wood I used is completely legal in our lake. I should have shown my sawdust capturing tarp floating 8 feet below, stretched across two SUPs. You might want to ask where your plastic is going now that China dosen't take it any more. Recycling trucks are a sham, invented by plastic container manufacturers in the 90's - stay tune for a video on that.