Hurting someone and eating anyone is not a " personal choice"

@Gulfraz_

2 ай бұрын

dont eat plant embryos

Even as a vegan for nearly 20 years, I say that what you eat is a personal choice…but for goodness sake, enough with the factory farms. They are a tragic mistake and do way more harm than good.

@emsea1658

Жыл бұрын

I do keto so lots of meat in my diet - But I have a lot of respect for vegans as it much more challenging diet to do nowadays - and it also demonstrates a solid rejection of the standard american diet (the biggest driver of disease in all of human history) - which keto folks also solidly reject as well. So good luck to you and good health!!

@praddumnvats6759

Жыл бұрын

Agree it must be challenging there....come to India where majority is vegan.

@emsea1658

Жыл бұрын

@@praddumnvats6759 I would love to do that someday, and I agree with you. But the mistake India has made is replacing ghee with seed oils. Very bad and you were the folks who invented ghee!!

@goldeneagle5999

Жыл бұрын

@@praddumnvats6759 modern indian diet is what makes it diabetes capital of the world

@praddumnvats6759

Жыл бұрын

@@goldeneagle5999 ya that's the refined sugar scam, thanks to the f British.

The problem is moral ignorance. People can't even give good explanations as to why humans have moral worth. We are never taught it, and we never have to think about it. Why would we expect anyone to be able to reason about other animals' value?

@SaraMKay

2 ай бұрын

100%. 1000% even. I heard to often: people have "a soul" - but nobody could EVER explain to me what that even means. It's a big word. But just a word it is.

@SaraMKay

2 ай бұрын

BTW: just to be complete here: it's religion. The source of all evil: delusion and ignorance. That's why people believe they are superior over anything on earth, or in the universe for that matter. Delusion, ignorance, and huge entitlement.

@kas12324

5 күн бұрын

@@SaraMKay People do have souls but we know very little of it. And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, "The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little." [17:85] 17:85 Allāh takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that do not die [He takes] during their sleep. Then He keeps those for which He has decreed death and releases the others for a specified term. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought. [39:42]

0:00: 🐶 The story highlights the unique bond between a family and their dog, Tessie, and raises questions about our contradictory relationship with animals. 5:56: 🐷 A researcher became a vegetarian after getting sick from eating meat and then conducted a study on the psychology of eating animals, leading her to investigate the slaughter industry and the thinking of people who work there. 10:04: 😢 Pigs suffer in CO2 stunning plants before being slaughtered, and carnism is a dominant belief system that justifies eating animals. 17:05: 🌍 The transition from hunter-gatherer societies to sedentary farming led to a significant change in diet and population growth. 20:22: 🥩 The history of human evolution and living conditions have influenced our diet, with meat being a prominent part of it. 25:18: 🌱 Eating meat is not a necessity and we can eat healthily without animal products in the global North. 30:11: 🦆 The video discusses the cultural significance of foie gras and raises ethical questions about eating animals.

@BaludPen

9 ай бұрын

You literally said whats in the video yet i never seen any comments about your reaction regarding to this documentary. Seriously?

@MrSmallie

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the Cliff Notes. Saved me 25 minutes. Plants are toxic and try to kill you.

@harshgaming1999

8 ай бұрын

thank you for saving my time

@PremVijayVelMani

7 ай бұрын

Finally, they didn't come to an important point, it is commonly assumed that veganism is ethically good for animals but that could be wrong fundamentally. I think it is ethically correct to include animal products in our human life. Different animals have evolved over time to play a different role in our lives like some are pets, and some convert plant feed that is inedible to us into nutritious and delicious food. It may be possible that in future we may do that without the help of animals, just like horses were replaced by cars. However, I think animals should still exist because in case if humans were to be extinct because of a catastrophe (say a virus), then these animals would be like our distant cousins and carry forward the genes. Someday in the distant future, they might once again evolve into intelligent creatures like us, and they might study our human fossils and bring us back to the world :) For this to happen we must keep a huge population of animals on earth. As technology progresses, we may consider ways to make these animals more efficient and environment friendly rather replacing them with non-living industries.

@raykowalchuk3812

6 ай бұрын

@@PremVijayVelMani - Humanity, despite our hubris and overconfidence in our technofixes, cannot exist without animals. That is, we need a functioning ecosystem and they are part of that, while our agriculture is in varying degrees an obstacle to that. You've expressed an anthropocentric worldview that animals evolved according to humanity's utility. Selective breeding is not evolution, but a grotesque mockery where instincts are ignored and human objectives of fast-growing flesh produce animals that suffer from merely existing, are impregnated by human hand, and are slaughtered in their youth. Even if you find an exquisitely strict consumption pattern that strikes you as ethical, the animals that are produced by animal agriculture are ethically bankrupt, and only sustainable compared to their worst practices. I like your human fossil resurrection theory though. I'm sure that future species that restores us will have questions that neither our brain nor our DNA will be able to answer.

That CO2 method on pigs looks horrific, like many other parts of mass animal production. But at the same time, that dog had breast cancer surgery while humans elsewhere still suffer the most basic needs. In both cases: out of sight, out of mind.

@m4w

Жыл бұрын

Could’ve used nitrogen instead. Maybe co2 is cheaper

@pargevkarapetyan2251

Жыл бұрын

You know why peoples suffering lots of places? Thar is many reasons,but I will mention shortly several. Most important we completely cut our connection from our Mother Nature rules,balance our activities and our planet Resources.Peoples some countries have very low educational level,very religious and having bunch of kids, which ones will become chip Labels for greedy industrial peoples,some all life will depend on international food programs like in Africa and getting those foods in plastic packages after using will pollute Environment,because no Recycling and uneducated. In Mexico and some other sout American country become drug cartels members and kill each other or peoples which ones doesn’t want Apply with their rules.Some people telling we can harvest more craps more animals and fish.But for dying that using more chemicals and more hurtful things for our planet. Only solution for coping life on our planet having les kids and from individual agriculture turn back to agriculture which one doesn’t Destroy our Nurture. But impossible during this,because world controlling selfish materialistic peoples,not Consciously healthy peoples. We peoples Steadily running to our end,unfortunately we Dragging with us wild life to.

@davidlguerr

Жыл бұрын

Certainly looks a lot better than traditional killing methods, like using a knife and let the pig bleed to death, or hitting him with an iron bar on the head. Other killing methods may be faster, but they will cause issues in the meat.

@davidlguerr

Жыл бұрын

@@m4w I guess it wouldn't make any difference in the suffering. They would suffocate anyway.

@nicolelasher

Жыл бұрын

@@m4w this is it. BTW, for background, I'm an omnivore, but due to African American rural culture, understand meat comes from living beings. I think very few cultures on Earth have this division the psychologist speaks of, and it is something to fix, whether someone chooses to continue eating meat or not. One definitely would not eat it the same way. There would be much less waste. Part of respect is trying to eat or find a use for everything possible from the "rooter to the tooter". Anyway, yes, I think it is an expense issue. There are a number of much more humane anesthetic options, some that would give a bonus euphoria, but they're not used because they're more expensive, and also once that issue is addressed, the comfort of the beings at the end would become relevant as well. The "one bad day" is a start, but if this is going to continue, we should go for no bad moments at all and just falling asleep on a nice pile of hay. Sometimes I think the cruelty is the point with these mass producers. Meat is already expensive, and not because of costs on the floor, but to increase the payoff to the CEO's and investors. They don't want to take a little off their profits to make life better for their human workers, so the struggle to get them to at least kill animals humanely is even bigger.

That pig sequence was horrific and unsettling.

I stoped eating meat at 4 yrs old. To this day, I recognise this as the best decision of my life. That time, 1969, ppl pressed my mother, who was and is not vegetarian, saying all sorts of bad things like " your son will die for lack o proteins and iron". Well, I did not. Im 1.85 m and 95 kilograms, 58 years old and no complains. ❤

@supahfly_uk

Жыл бұрын

Even chimpanzees eat meat lol.

@CapreDiem86

Жыл бұрын

I have health problems and plant based diet is inflamatory, so I have to eat protein in order to recover

@Shalom65

Жыл бұрын

@@CapreDiem86 Didn't know that... hope you recover totally!

@Shalom65

Жыл бұрын

@@supahfly_uk Well, but I guess gorillas don't.

@Zenexfriend

11 ай бұрын

Cringe

Seriously, people in rich countries are out of touch with the reality of most people in poor countries. Almost most half of the world is starving and can't remove meat from their diet. Its a matter of survival for many of us here in poor countries

@williamshanks8959

Ай бұрын

A lot of poor people already eat a near vegan diet anyways.

We do and eat unnecessary things and wonder why we are falling ill.

@ceeemm1901

Жыл бұрын

But the human mind is the best barrister in the world- It can justify anything.

Very well done team DW, pretty informative documentary!

Both the female and male narrators are excellent and deserve a mention. Great doc as usual. Ty DW.

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@habi-tahti

Жыл бұрын

They are not mentioned because it is an artifical voice. lol

@CIOZimbabwe

Жыл бұрын

@@habi-tahti are u sure sounds real

@cjfredi

Жыл бұрын

@@habi-tahti Darn good if it is but these days ya never know?

@AgathaLOutahere

Жыл бұрын

DW has a fetish for documentaries about nonsense like climate change. DW pushes a political agenda.

So, the slaughterhouse worker says stressed out animals produce an inferior product. It kind of looks like the CO2 stunning stresses them out a lot. Seems like a rush of adrenaline from that process would sully the end product. Didn't they use bolt drivers to slaughter animals before? Was that more stressful than this method?

@lorezampadeferro8641

Жыл бұрын

🎯

@SarahSmith-rx3xm

Жыл бұрын

CO2 is the more accepted procedure in Europe. Europe says that if they do it it is far superior to whatever we are doing, but personally I think it is an unofficial sanction. 🤷‍♀️ We do use CO2 in the US but only to stun, not to kill.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

This is how adenochrome is made

@Teybort

Жыл бұрын

same, i dont get it eather... I used to think they were shot on the top of the head. Sounds lets traumatic at the very least.

@Tinky1rs

10 ай бұрын

@@SarahSmith-rx3xm Isn't that also what this documentary showed? They were unconscious after the CO2 pit, not dead.

When a slaughterhouse manager tells you they love animals, that should tell you all you need to know about the lies and absurdity of this industry.

@whocares__mrhjb9703

Жыл бұрын

How so. Ypu are just clutching at straws because you can't be an organic vegan. Enjoy the lab based food you eat

@thebowandbullet

Жыл бұрын

​@@whocares__mrhjb9703​Is this your best guess of what I eat? Also, I note how you failed to respond to my comment in any way.

@Trotchu

Жыл бұрын

I think the slaughterhouse manager is telling the truth but he just has a different definition of what love means than you or I if you know what I mean...

@xy4489

11 ай бұрын

Do you think he hates the pigs he slaughters if he's lying about loving them?

@stefanisilva2493

10 ай бұрын

@@Trotchu His "love" is more in that Jeffrey Dhamer style.

Thank you for all the effort your team put into this documentary. It was very well done.

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment, Aaron!

@dyalsaraswati3915

Жыл бұрын

INDIA NO1 IN BEEF EXPORT. WE HAD GREAT NON VEGETARIAN DIET AND NOW ..IN U.K ALL RESTAURANTS HAS NON VEGETARIAN INDIAN FOOD U GOT EASILY AND ECONOMICAL

@rrrkk

10 ай бұрын

​@@dyalsaraswati3915that's not true. It's a Hindu country

@AadhiraiSathyavathi

9 ай бұрын

​@@rrrkkindians criticize other Indians when they eat meat aka non-vegetarian food, why ? Because those Indians who trade in Animal Meat, their business gets affected, foreign currencies speaks power!

@anonglakmoonwicha2726

9 ай бұрын

@@rrrkk It is the country with the biggest leather exporting industry in the world. It is improbable that the meat from those cows doesn't get eaten by somebody.

Bottom line: even if eating animals could be unethical is totally necessary if you want to survive without taking pills

@KamikazeKatze666

Жыл бұрын

You missed the part where it is said that the animals you eat are fed lots of pills to stay healthy and alive until they are slaughtered.

@tylerhogan9211

Жыл бұрын

Yeah true, except most people drink and eat terrible diets so most people still need supplements and pills.

@CordeliaWagner

Жыл бұрын

In most western countries, a big chunk of the population is chronically ill. People already take pills.

@ratrat1525

Жыл бұрын

Not really. You can get your nutrients without meat.

@Tinky1rs

10 ай бұрын

You can just consume fortified foods if swallowing a B12 pill is a problem. Also, a vegetarian doesn't directly eat animals and still doesn't need to supplement. Even if you insist on getting your B12 from meat or fish, you'd only need 100g twice a week to get enough.

Thank you for this amazing Documentary!

Thank you for this documentary ❤️

31:59 -“Is it morally right to eat animals.” Previously, the documentary stated “all choices are based upon beliefs”. The question of what is morally right then becomes a question of beliefs.

Awesome documentary channel! Great contents!

@DW Documentary I have watched thousands of hours of KZread and documentaries. Your channel is outstanding, always relevant and interesting with well researched and insightful content. Thank you so much for adding this intangible amount of value and knowlede to my life. If I would have any money to spare I would make a significant donation. Whoever the team or individual behind all this great content is, I want to thank you from the depth of my heart!

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your positive feedback. Sending lots of love from Germany!

@positiveparanoid4261

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@tariq729me1

Жыл бұрын

Yes same here

@dexteryousef2380

Жыл бұрын

@@DWDocumentary Trash documentary.

@Derlet30

11 ай бұрын

DW is a gift to the world and the inquiring mind ❤️

One argument I hear a lot is that in the old days people ate meat all the time. Not so! In my country ( Nordic ) only the nobility had daily access to meat and everybody else ate vegetables and, if lucky, fish, fish to the extent that tapeworms were considered a normality. Meat was only for the high holidays, while the daily diet consisted of vegetable broth, porridge, bread and lentils.

@krollpeter

Жыл бұрын

Before that time you are talking about, Seastorm.

@ceeemm1901

Жыл бұрын

Meat consumption has doubled globally over the last 100 years, but more so in First World countries.

@krollpeter

Жыл бұрын

@@simonmcintosh6565 Barley, oats, and rye provided around 70 % of the calories. Plus the vegetables, mostly cabbage, beets, onions, garlic and carrots. Almond milk was more common than cows milk. Animal protein sources were butter and cheese more than meat.

@lynxlecher9547

Жыл бұрын

Ydyot

@lynxlecher9547

Жыл бұрын

What does it matter what happened in the so called "old days"

The same people who issues with factory farming also are against hunting. Seems like the narrative is always leading to eating less to no meat.

@davidlguerr

Жыл бұрын

That is the problem with most vegans. They do not want to eat meat (and that is fine), but also want others to do the same, by force.

@IloveCamels335

Жыл бұрын

@@davidlguerr totally agreed. It’s like they want to guilt trip you for your own choice. Sometimes it gets too fanatic for my liking. You choose what works for you and I choose what works for me. At least that’s how I see it

@davidlguerr

Жыл бұрын

@@IloveCamels335 Most of them simply do not respect other people's choices, if they are different from theirs. They want to ban meat eating for everyone. I do agree that many people in the world eat more meat than they should. It is an health concern. But I wouldn't endorse a strict vegan diet.

@hansfranz8795

Жыл бұрын

@@IloveCamels335 Yeah, definitely. If I torture, kill and eat dogs, then that's just my choice, but those pesky neighbours want me to go to jail for it. And if I pour out toxic substances in my neighbourhood and actively destroy my neighbours' environment and their future on this planet, that's also just my choice, but for some reason they get mad at me and act as if me actively destroying their future affects them. Crazy, right?

@seekanddestroy9111

Жыл бұрын

Its all propaganda founded by "vegan" companyes. Today everything "green" and "sustainable" is trandy and they are trying to profit from it.

I am an Indian by birth and a Christian which says that I'm not obliged to any religious restrictions in consuming meat, but I was brought up with a dietary pattern of eating mostly vegetarian food and rare occasions meat, though financially we were sound. It was only because we loved eating vegetables and lentils in our daily routine. I now live in central Asia, where meat is the main item of consumption. I feel sick if I continually have meat in my diet for a few days.

@newsworld4735

Жыл бұрын

Where do you live now ?

@kingdevil6021

Жыл бұрын

Abrhamic faiths are not Indian. You're not 100% Indian. Your pilgrimage is not in India. Your loyalty can't be to India.

@hprincely

Жыл бұрын

@@kingdevil6021 Hey you ! It's non of your business to decide whether I'm Indian or not! First of all change your mentality that if a person of has different faith other than Hinduism doesn't change his origin. I'm born Indian, my ancestors were living here and I live here. So please change your mindset. India is in danger because of people like you.

@jai9952

Жыл бұрын

@@kingdevil6021 lol dude chill If someone converted to a different religion doesn’t mean he isn’t an Indian

@manyothers6384

Жыл бұрын

Well sorry mate. We like eating animals we grow.

I am Vegetarian from India . Our Culture promotes Vegetarianism strongly ( 600 Million peoples in India are Vegetarian ) . We love Animals ❤

@koushikdas1992

Жыл бұрын

Only 34% people of India is full-time vegetarian. But they eat animal products such as- ghee, cheese, milk, egg as well. Other 64% people eat both mear & vegetables.

@gibbyjones1040

Жыл бұрын

you don't love type 2 diabetes which is rampant in your veggie world

@notwwwansik

Жыл бұрын

@@koushikdas1992 +++++

@helenamcginty4920

Жыл бұрын

A lot of 'culture' depends on climate. The further away from the equator and the tropics you live the fewer crops you can grow. I grew up in England just after WWll. We had potatoes, onions, carrots, turnips, cabbages. In winter no tomatoes. They need heat. Fruit was seasonal, apples, plums and pears in autumn. An orange was put in our xmas stockings as part of our xmas gifts from Santa. Back in the 1960s or 70s an experimental iron age village was the subject of a documentary. Peopled with modern folk, many of the long hair and sandals type. I later read that the vegetarians among them had either to leave or eat meat as their health was suffering. The restricted variety of fruits and vegetables that could be grown and foraged in the natural conditions in England did not provide the proteins, fats and vitamins available in meat. One lady even ended up in hospital. Just look at the traditional diets of peoples who live in the far north. Lots of meat and fish. So thank your lucky stars you live where the climate allows you to grow an abundance of different fruits and vegetable.

@timc6251

Жыл бұрын

Good for you. But the majority of people in the world are not Hindu. So we can eat meat.

You should only be vegetarian or vegan with a nutritional education. Take a few college courses so you know how to get the essential amino acid that you must get from food. Meat is the obvious source but combining foods like rice and beans can do the same trick. I know so many that went vegetarian or vegan and became very ill.

It was hard to watch . The truth is so painful . Thanks - good work !

A Good and real documentary, awaiting for another part. I think it will be easy to take decision when one think about whether to live for eating or to eat for living.

This is so well done, so well-argued.

She wrote her doctoral thesis on “why people eat meat?”. Genius!

@ADUAquascaping

Жыл бұрын

You're joking. It tastes good 👍. And we need fatty fish for Omega-3 DHA and EPA. Seaweed doesn't provide enough, and we didn't evolve eating seaweed. We evolved eating fatty fish.

@romella_karmey

Жыл бұрын

@@ADUAquascaping if your ancestors live in the middle of a gigantic continent without sea on all directions, then they didn't evolve depending on fish...

@sheet-music

Жыл бұрын

@@romella_karmey heard of rivers? fishbones are found everywhere on camp sites

@Carthaginia

Жыл бұрын

🍖🥩🥩😍😍

@lapetitefleur3482

Жыл бұрын

@@ADUAquascaping Yeah well, the video provided an alternative anyway. When I was a kid, I didn't like fish, it was nauseating, and I would vomit so my mother just gave me Omega-3 pills until I grew out of it.

I still eat chicken and fish. But still have complete vegetarian days. I'm trying to go full vegetarian. Ignorance is the greatest sin for humans to carry. Something got to change. This shits got to go

@CordeliaWagner

Жыл бұрын

Milk cows go to the same slaughthouses as beed cows after maximum five years. Same for egg laying chicken.

@tyronsimpson2143

Жыл бұрын

@@CordeliaWagner yeah it's a picking order. Humans are at the top of the order. We can question everything due to our capacity of a consousness with our mind stucksure. Which leavrs us with no real excuse?Animals have more emotional experience than chickens and fish do 🐟 😢 💔. Like I say this shits got to go

@LauradeVasconcelos

Жыл бұрын

@@CordeliaWagner not to mention the miserable life chicken live with many inside same cage they don't even get to move or stretch their wings :( not even calves keep drinking milk, why humans do? ew

@JoASMR2

Жыл бұрын

Food and culture from other countries are good.

@costafilh0

Жыл бұрын

Most people know the truth. It's is also pretty obvious. We just don't pay attention to our reality living like zombies.

I'm using this videos to learn english and learn about different topics. You guys have a lot of interesting material that i didn't know. I love to know how world works, very nice work you all.

Man, i understand why they felt the need to start the documentary with the family dog, but it was too heartbreaking. We recently had to have one of our dogs put down, and it was just too sad.

@lauratanln

10 ай бұрын

It is ok to euthanise animals who are suffering, by injection. Not abuse and torture them and causing suffering especially when there is no need to.

@lauratanln

10 ай бұрын

No need to be sad if he or she has not suffered in any way when alive. Billions do not have this fate.

Sad..Sad..., the way animals are raised and slaughtered. Thanks for brining eye-opening documentaries. Hopefully this changes more people.

@AB-yr2eo

Жыл бұрын

Cows, goats, chickens etc weren’t put on this earth to create their own societies and civilizations. They’re here so we can eat them.

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and sharing your own perpective on this matter.

@TTR83

Жыл бұрын

No need to change people in this part.

@Dariusuzu

Жыл бұрын

Plants are also raised and then being cut off and eaten you think they dont have feelings? Or they dont wanna live?

@reefmint

Жыл бұрын

With many trees and plants, you can consume leaves, fruits, and seeds without killing the plant. Nature has its own mechanism for sustainability.

This is an outstanding contribution to the debate over meat eating.

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

DANKE für diese tolle Doku!

Fun fact, plants are living things like animals.

I think this is mostly a western concept. I'm South African. We currently have a great dane at home, Dixie, she's 6 years now and we've had her since she was about 6 weeks. We all love her dearly. She's not allowed in the house, she's a dog, not a friend and certainly not a family member. Each of us at home make time to spend with her daily whether it is playing fetch, taking walks or just cuddling. Still a dog. She's our 5th family dog. We paid the breeder, bought her a good kennel and buy her food monthly. We wash her when it is necessary. Mom is a nurse, when Dixie is sick or hurt we use old meds and treat her wounds with left of antiseptics and bandages. She's never visited a vet or has medical aid wtf. When she dies it will suck and be sad, like it was before. Then we'll get another dog, not a friend or a family member, a dog. Sometimes we buy live chickens, goats or sheep to slaughter here at home to feed extended family and friends during cultural ceremonies and celebrations. The slaughtering, skinning and butchering is done by the males in the family so I've been a part of this process my whole life. I don't see animals as anything much more than what they are. They are life and all life needs to be respected. But I'm under no illusions that an animal somehow becomes family, gtf outta here with that man 😅. My heart will never bleed for any animal (like Dixie) like it will for any person (like you random stranger reading this).

@vithorejsi892

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, thank you for saying this. These people are so blind and this is literally such tendential propaganda not a documentary.

@stefanisilva2493

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, we all know your continent still has that old pechant for violence and blood. It's in statistics. Western culture developed more humanitary and empathetic sense then the rest of the world, that's the difference. Why caring about the suffering of inocent beings when they are not similar to us, right? (Let's remember where this line of thought took humanity not a long time ago...)

@raraavis7782

10 ай бұрын

Very healthy attitude. An attitude that would have been shared by 99% of Westerners just 100 years or so ago, I have no doubt. When large parts of the population was living rurally and producing food still an undertaking, that kept the majority of the people busy - not just a tiny subset of them. It's the fact that most of us live our lives so utterly removed from the reality of food production, that breeds both this ideology of putting animals on the same level as humans and the horror of treating farm animals with total disregard for their pain and suffering. When a healthy attitude should be somewhere in the middle. Animals are living beings, they feel both pain and fear and pleasure and joy. And we shouldn't make them suffer unnecessarily. But they're not humans and there's nothing ethically wrong with us taking out part in the food chain, just like any other living being.

@abrahamsneo7783

10 ай бұрын

Well said. Animals are not families members in our cultural ways. Its a western thing.

We Indians and Hindus and Buddhists have the highest number of vegetarians amongst us ..vegetarian diet is soothing ..and is amazing for your inner self .. my family have been vegetarian for generations.. .

@sheet-music

Жыл бұрын

I don't want to be soothed, I'm not a toddler. I want to be active and strong physically.

@vancouverviking4652

Жыл бұрын

Then, move to India

@siddharthmathur8277

Жыл бұрын

@@vancouverviking4652 I am in India !! Proud To be back in India after visiting both UK and France !! India is love and home !!

@siddharthmathur8277

Жыл бұрын

@@sheet-music that's your choice !! I respect it !! Good luck !!

@unsaltedbeurre3411

Жыл бұрын

Not sure about Buddhists....because I'm pretty sure Asian Buddhist nations also have the highest number of all-you-can-eat Shabu and BBQ restaurants in the world haha.

That critique on belief it's spot-on. I have spent almost 8 years explaining to people that it is faith what's behind will (choice) and how they educated us on thinking this equals to the truth (reality) when in fact is just a theory and cannot posibbly be stated as knowledge.

@BiniBoeva

Жыл бұрын

And where's the science? I might as well believe that living from sunlight is also possible. I don't like how this video has the vegan narrative behind it, and it's not backed up by data.

What an awsome amazing documentary 🙏🏻🙏🏻

DW documentaries never dissapoint, Thank you team for all your efforts

@DWDocumentary

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

For DW documentary, please ad the youtubers that get shown in your vids to have their youtube links in the dubliodo it makes them easier to follow

@whocares__mrhjb9703

Жыл бұрын

And you can then also reply to their farcical ideas too. Great idea.

This document series is outstanding. And the graphics of the people with the face sausage meats for heads? At 13:33? Mastery!

I could pet my dog with one hand and eat another with the other... Same goes for a pig, fish etc. I'll never understand how people can compartmentalize based on their beliefs instead of their actual individual closeness and situation.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

Would you eat your dog tho

@minhnguyen96

Жыл бұрын

Western propaganda dogs are still being consumed in developing countries

The scene with the CO2 and the pigs is absolutely heart wrenching to watch. And look how the ducks try to get away from him before being force fed. Thank you for sharing this. Hopefully this gets to the eyes of people that need to see this and hopefully we can welcome some new vegans into the fold.

@monkeylastra

Жыл бұрын

What about all the animals that get killed when they plow fields ? Or when trees are cut down for farm land?

@hardcoreherbivore4730

Жыл бұрын

@@monkeylastra All made much worse by animal agriculture. If we combine pastures used for grazing with land used to grow crops for animal feed, livestock accounts for 77% of global farming land. While livestock takes up most of the world's agricultural land it only produces 18% of the world's calories. Really, the point you just made makes you much worse. Vegan’s undeniably reduce their harm both in lives effected and the environment. You’re simply appealing to futility. Shame on you, Joe Rogan and Ted Nugent are clearly not experts. 😂

@koushikdas1992

Жыл бұрын

​@@monkeylastraWhat about cannibalism in order to get protein as well?

@infinitestare

Жыл бұрын

@@monkeylastra oops they forgot to remember about that don't worry, at least they didn't forget to tell everyone they're vegans

@os2958

11 ай бұрын

yes that part was very sad.

Lots of thanks for these, much needed documentaries!!

If you can hear the sound a plant makes when it's cut would you stop eating vegetables?.

Very well done. Thank you.

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

lettuce is a vegetable and its associated with the most bacterial infections EVER in comparison to anything else, including meat.

@ceeemm1901

Жыл бұрын

Listeria is the main, nearly always, problem with those incredibly rare lettuce infections. Listeria comes from the shit and piss of farm animals. Manures and fertilisers are used either too fresh or the lettuce gets contaminated from livestock on the farm or nearby. Lettuce doesn't produce any toxin. Oh and thanks for stating "lettuce is a vegetable", love didactics..

I love DW so so much for using their platform wisely and putting up contents which serve as a voice for the innocent voiceless.. My respect ❤

@lauratanln

10 ай бұрын

DW is my favourite channel. I tune in every time I switch on my TV.

@MrFredericandre

9 ай бұрын

DW is good, but there is too much promotion of ideologies. I don't feel like the reasons why a reasonable amount of meat is a good idea were voiced here. Given the video's title, it's definitely biased. That's ok, I still like DW, I'm not expecting them to be 100% unbiased.

@SattwikaDutta

8 ай бұрын

@@MrFredericandre kinda.. nowadays we'll have to compromise for unbiased news yk..🙃

I'm a vegan already two years, and one question that I always ask myself is why I woke up so late?

@misterx-gy3fg

10 ай бұрын

Eleven years for me, and I often ask myself the same question. I guess we are products of social conditioning that is difficult to break out of.

@oleksandrionets184

9 ай бұрын

@@d.ducky. for me, the starting point was a knowledge about ptomaines in every meat and fish also. Also for me vegan diet is giving me more energy than before. And much of all an understanding that it's not good to eat others live species.

great documentary

Why does Melanie Joy omit that when we began as an agricultural society, dogs were the hunters and the shepherds simultaneously? Maybe we don't eat dogs but we used them for protection in the same way we use pigs and chickens for eating. Dogs didn't start off as cute pets; there's a reason why they are so close to man since millenias ago

@ceeemm1901

Жыл бұрын

Go to SE ASia and have a Dog kebab....same dogs as ours and that's their tradition. and have some spiced cat and raw horse for entree....big world out there, darl.

@incensejunkie7516

11 ай бұрын

I thought that segment was going in a different direction at first and about to discuss the impact of pets and their food and the meat industry.

@plant-based-carnist

11 ай бұрын

@hermione2655 we started as an agricultural society much later. Before that, people were hunter gatherers.

@lauratanln

10 ай бұрын

@@ceeemm1901 Traditions can be very immoral and wrong. They're found in all backward societies where people live like barbarians. Modern people are still barbarians mostly when they follow cruel or thoughtless traditions blindly.

This is what journalism is. Shining light on our world's issues, without bias. Thank you so much for these documentaries, they are all very insightful.

@Derlet30

11 ай бұрын

Agree! The documentary team is brilliant! ✨️

@blanckieification

11 ай бұрын

I bet this hasn't a lot of likes because most people don't want to hear the truth

@rathank4071

10 ай бұрын

Biased against developing country

@Jan96106

10 ай бұрын

There was nothing unbiased about this, and it was not a documentary. It showed only your viewpoint. That is why you liked it and found it unbiased. Hold your beliefs, but without intellectual dishonesty.

@sokratesowly2256

10 ай бұрын

@@Jan96106 So true. Even documentary itself is never unbiased. The moment people pick up the camera and choose what to film and what to cut, it will all become personal viewpoint.

Good message

Brilliant job as usual. May The Triple Gem Bless you All.

Very well explained! I'll definitely be sharing this.

I really enjoy the DW documentaries. Very balanced in their views and presentations. Thank you!

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, we are glad you enjoyed the documentary :)

Is there a part 2? The ending was a cliff hanger

salient message I love it.

I love my garden plants but I eat them too😂

@morshedsaurav4346

Жыл бұрын

😅

@momofighter3211

Жыл бұрын

You are committing a violent massacre against the plants!!

@Concorde1059

Жыл бұрын

Do your garden plants start squealing in terror when you pull them out of the ground?

@bereketkiflejibicho3015

Жыл бұрын

@@momofighter3211 😃

@etahenry3377

Жыл бұрын

Not the most intelligent comment.Try engaging the organ between your ears

It's interesting that these historians claim that hunters and gatherers' diets consists of 60% meat, when newer studies say at most, historically (and even currently) it's actually only around 30%.

Loved Your Effort

If I try petting the dog with one hand while having a piece of meat on the other, the dog would definetely try to grab the the meat from me! Is the dog wrong?

I AM FROM SRI LANKA & I FOUND YOU CHANNEL CONTENT GOES WITH MY FEELING & THIS SERIES SPECIALLY HIGLY VALUE TO ME PERSONALLY ACTUALLY YOU ARE REALLY POSITIVELY EVOLVING HUMANITY. IT IS PLEASURE TO CONTRIBUTE YOUR EFFORT BY FEW WORD.

I just cant stop watching the videos you guys make , its super informative and on point ! People really need to know what's going on now in the real world . There is just so much stuff that we don't know . Please dont stop making your videos . Sending love from Singapore ❤

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback, Jessica! Best wishes. :)

@Derlet30

11 ай бұрын

Agree 100%! ❤

@antarixyaan1951

10 ай бұрын

Agreed from India. 😊

@kevincleveland763

10 ай бұрын

Not so informative, but I knew all this ready. The problem with eating meat is how we grow and harvest it. The German slaughterhouse they showed us was pretty state-of-the-art, although I think this should be a better way to knock the pigs out. But other than that having an animal's throat cut well it's sleeping is pretty painless.

I always said that killing wasn't my problem, I didn't like the way animals suffer during their lives before becoming a meal. But this video made me see how much they suffer...even to die! I don't think I will be able to eat meat anymore.

@jg5755

11 ай бұрын

Most meat processors are careful not to stress animals at slaughter because the adrenaline spoils the meat which is not good for business.

It's not just the vit B12 we need from animal source, but essential amino-acids which are the building blocks for our cells and can not be derived from plants. Somehow it is completely bypassed in this documentary. There should be at least milk and eggs in our diet.

@furuyakeifu

Жыл бұрын

B12 comes from bacteria and the destruction of our soil and use of antibiotics etc reduces this. Complete amino acids can be achieved from plants as far as I know. Vegan/vegetarian societies are doing just fine.

@lobovutare

11 ай бұрын

Which essential amino acids are not available in plants?

@misterx-gy3fg

10 ай бұрын

Then how do you explain vegan athletes?

@Legend7211

2 ай бұрын

Rice And beans

What an excellent documentary, balanced and so well-argued ♥

@andrewcomerford2338

9 ай бұрын

Poorly argued, because it uses pigs as the basis of their argument, and pigs aren't food like cows and goats and sheep

@rredding

9 ай бұрын

This is NOT an excellent, well-researched, balanced documentary 😂😂 It is a plain, cheaply produced piece of vegan propaganda. I prefer the approach of mr John Harvey Kellogg, a physician and devout Seventh-Day Adventist in Battle Creek, Michigan. He sharply recognized the dangers of masturbation from eating meat. Of coarse we shouldn't mention that his healthy cereals launched sugar cravings in children and formed the basis of a solid pre-diabetes in later live. And please don't forget that red meat is as dangerous as smoking cigarettes! (WHO) 😊 (Ok, OK, just being ironical a bit..❤)

@toni4729

9 ай бұрын

@@andrewcomerford2338 You've never heard of ham and bacon. I eat bacon all the time, and love it. I wrap it around chicken pieces. 🥰

"these people" was the term used for the people's of Ancient Mesopotamia.. it is sad that their name wasn't mentioned once in this documentary and given homage to them for their farming techniques.

I would ask for counter question: Are there any essential carbohydrates for survive?

After 30 years of being a vegetarian, I developed irreversible body complaints due to lack of B12. For 7 years I daily took 2x p day Methylcobalamine, a B12 supplement. I functioned well, but not fully. Besides the additives in the tablets were going against he healthy intake of food and nutrients bc it contained red color, stuff that hold the tablet together and what else. So many years of taking the tablets 2 per day meant also taking the unwanted additives. And it is expensive and not everywhere available for instance in African countries where I used to spend longer periods of time. Besides that, being a vegetarian is against food cultures in many countries and I was always left out, sitting somewhere alone in a corner, to eat rice and salads, not even satiating me, while others were sharing a meal. So basically, how much I love all animals and life, I was hurting myself, my own body and I was hurting many others who were offering meals which I refused. It is just not sustainable I had to admit. Now I am off tablets eating 2x per month a meal of fish or chicken, a sacrifice for my health. So I give prayers of gratitude for the sacrificed animal.

@lunam7249

8 ай бұрын

me too!!! lots of people , like 20% cant be long term vegans!! 4 critical proteins your body cant make and only in red meat!!

@walterbarroso7704

8 ай бұрын

You need a nutritionist then. All the vitamins can be found in vegetables, grains and many other ingredients.

@lunam7249

8 ай бұрын

@@walterbarroso7704 absolutely incorrect

@lunam7249

8 ай бұрын

@@walterbarroso7704 more than say a few ounces of meat a day is bad though, too much is bad, too little is bad, i can agree humans sedintary need very LITTLE AMOUNT meat

Eye opening information. We need to rethink about our food choices and why we do what we do. Thank you for sharing

@DWDocumentary

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!

super interesting!

Yes, meat diet consisting of 60% white and red meat is the ideal consumption giving you all your vitamins and minerals.

@Legend7211

2 ай бұрын

Who says?

Thank you for making this type of content!

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching :)

@Carthaginia

Жыл бұрын

🍖🥩🥩😍😍

Thank you for doing this! I swear I never had teary eyes before while watching a documentary. Seeing these pigs suffocating to death breaks my heart!

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and Sharing your thoughts!

@bobbybansal

Жыл бұрын

Hope you have gone vegan....watch 'What the health" and "Seaspiracy" to help you systematically transition!

Top notch as always. DW Docs are still Grade A

This thought-provoking documentary delves into the complex relationship between humans and meat consumption, raising crucial questions about cultural, historic, and psychological influences. Let's use this knowledge to make more conscious and compassionate decisions in our diets and contribute to a more sustainable and ethical world.

@rachelgoodkind6545

6 ай бұрын

Are you saying go vegan? or just to choose to eat "happy" animals? you do not say. I am vegan over 25 years and to me it is the most sensible and ethical choice. Peace.

Great video thanks!

what makes everything messed up is we are overeating. A balance diet is the key, I agree we are not supposed to rely on meat product. But eating it occasionally is not a big problem. which means reduce the meat consumption and diversifying our diet

@lobovutare

11 ай бұрын

It is a big problem to the animals that you kill for your occassional meat consumption.

Hi team. Great work as usual. Might I recommend you place a discretionary warning at the start of this video, please?

I am not here only to survive, I need to eat meat to thrive.

As a farmer, I can testify that even plants are full of life and vigor - when a plant is cut down, you can literally see the life get sucked out of it as it wilts and dies off eventually. What this documentary basically covers is raising moral questions about the cycle of life. I hate to state it but - life is built around the cycle of life and death. One organism has to always sacrifice their life for the other organism to live. Seeds have to die for plants to emerge. Insects have to die for birds to live. Gazelles have to die for lions to live. And definitely, some plants and animals have to die for humans to live. So this romanticized idea of what life is is basically a distortion of truth. There is no other way for humans to live apart from deriving their sustenance from animals and crops - which have to be sacrificed for our continued existence. The alternative is to wipe out humanity - but still this would not stop pigs from being slaughtered by lions, leopards and bears etc.

@AndrewJYing

11 ай бұрын

If they can convince lions to become vegan, then I might entertain the idea. Yes, I am a proud selfish human being who have no regards for animal lives.

@lilith7706

11 ай бұрын

Yet another human with the plant argument. 😂 You sound ridiculous. There is a big difference between plants and animals and that is sentience. BTW, lions are carnivorous animals and humans are omnivores, so yet another failed argument. 🤡

@droidmansky7354

10 ай бұрын

​@@AndrewJYing you are proud of being selfish in general ?

@AndrewJYing

10 ай бұрын

@@droidmansky7354 absolutely. Generally. It’s what drives society. A rational human being should be self interested and maximize his or her own interest.

@droidmansky7354

10 ай бұрын

@@AndrewJYing cool, is this rational at the expense of others ?

Who knows in future or in an alternate universe, aliens would be eating us lol

@RealMTBAddict

Жыл бұрын

Well this is about our universe.

@alexandermuller950

Жыл бұрын

@@RealMTBAddict ik I was just pointing out the fact

@yvonneplant9434

Жыл бұрын

Dozens of SF stories are based on that idea.

@CHMichael

Жыл бұрын

They swing by every 20k years and load up. They usually show up at 9 billion population.

@osmanmohammed8815

Жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂 😂 Yes maybe who knows?! 😅 We should enjoy meat before some creatures enjoy our body 🍖 😂😂😂😂😂

What I learned about the three N’s is that meat consumption is Normal and Natural and, without supplements, perhaps even Necessary.

At the beginning of the video, I expected someone to criticize the incredible amount of pet dogs we have in the western world, which is carnivore by definition and causes a non negligible quantity of emissions.

Why do people eat animals? Because they're delicious. Let's not make the answer complicated.

@hardcoreherbivore4730

Жыл бұрын

Then why do you always drench it in sauces made exclusively from plants?

@johnbenedictserrano9570

Жыл бұрын

@@hardcoreherbivore4730 Where ever you're pulling that assertion from, again, it boils down to how it tastes. If it's delicious then you naturally go and get some more no matter how it affects your health or overall well being.

@ceeemm1901

Жыл бұрын

Put 2 juicy steaks out on the backyard table for 3 nice warm days. Then give one to your dog and you chow down on the other Chuck....and then tell me next wek that , just like your dog, you didn't shit Bangladeshi river water for the next 18 hrs doubled over in the little room. You hunky, butch carnivore, you!

@KyleEvra

Жыл бұрын

Won't stop people from eating meat. 😂

@iamabitterperson

10 ай бұрын

It's about culture too. Doesn't make sense tho

Thank you so much DW for sharing such an amazing documentary💚✨🌍🌱🙏🏻

@Carthaginia

Жыл бұрын

🍖🥩🥩😍😍

@bobbybansal

Жыл бұрын

Hope you have gone vegan....watch 'What the health" and "Seaspiracy" to help you systematically transition!

Very interesting

@DWDocumentary

Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so! Thanks for watching :)

I don't think we are champions of supresion because we can love pets but eat meat. Even in my home, my pet is subordinate. If I had to choose b/w my pet and anyone in my immediate family, there is zero, ZERO hesitation. I love my pet, but the love of a pet isn't like the love of a human to me.

A great documentary !!! DW please keep this longer, so more people can watch. I remember as a small child, I was crying my eyes out when 5-6 men were gathering to slaughter a single pig in my village. It was a big event for the family as it meant having meat for a long time. Now a farmer makes a EUR 20 profit from a single pig (at most). All this "perfection" in killing and suffering, for just EUR 20 in profit for the person doing the most work - the system is totally wrong. And we're paying for this in climate change.

Thanks

When my husband was a little kid he wanted to be a veterinarian but about a year later someone mentioned he would HAVE to terminate the lives of some of them he immediately abandoned the idea 😢

It is not about necessity or nutrient. It is about I like the taste of meat.

I wonder and would like to hear more about whether population explosion led to agriculture and domestication, or whether agriculture and domestication led to population explosion.

@sabine8419

Жыл бұрын

Both.

@CordeliaWagner

Жыл бұрын

The question is how can we stop the current population explosion? When I was 13, the world population reached 7 billion. Ten years later it's 8 billion

@sheet-music

Жыл бұрын

All sources say the latter.

@sheet-music

Жыл бұрын

@@CordeliaWagner start with yourself.

@sheet-music

Жыл бұрын

@@riverbend7846it was the norm in the "west" twenty years ago; we are lucky to see that the global trend reached the poorest regions of the world already. yes, you need at least some working birth control to control birth rate but luckily, poor women are having it more and more. women don't want to spend their lives pregnant.

Usually, scientists tend to be more cautious extrapolating what we know about modern hunter-gatherers to our hunter-gatherers forefathers than what is shown in this documentary. Modern hunter-gatherers live in extreme conditions that affect all aspects of their life including their diets. Not all ancient hunter-gatherers lived in those conditions. Therefore, one can’t say that because modern hunter-gatherers derive most of their energy from meat, that must be what we have evolved doing. It would have been nice to see a better-structured evolutionary argument.

This doc is good, it hit a lot of spots more then just eating meat

@toni4729

9 ай бұрын

You mean like; meat gives good health? The brain and our body is made of the stuff and you can't get all the nutrients out of a vegetable. It was ONE EYED.

Most food was gathered, not hunted. Meat was still rare. But the point of "all we had to do was be annoying".

@ceeemm1901

Жыл бұрын

That's right they were actually "Gathers and Hunters". Not every day was a catch, but every day was a collect. But hey they only found bones around those paleo cave sites. Did they find banana peels? pea shells? corn cobs? apple cores? NO! So they must have only eaten MEAT..Doh!, "I yoosta been shlow, bud oym nod so bad now..."

@gibbyjones1040

Жыл бұрын

the only thing you can gather during an ice age is ice cubes

I was vegan for three years until i had to recently quit for an injury I had, I was very poorly educated about nutritions, so I basically ate bunch carbs and few to nothing veggies, I felt horrible all the time, my body was begging for something nutritious but I never listened to it. I am definitely going back vegan again once I feel more stable and well informed about nutritions. my advice for anyone who's thinking of eating plant based exclusively would be, knowledge knowledge and knowledge, know your shit before doing it, your body will thank you!

@AwakenedEarthGoddess1111

9 ай бұрын

I was vegetarian...then transitioned to vegan. So far it's been a positive change. The more plants I eat, the more I want. It feels good. I feel more hydrated, clean, more energy, and calm best way I can put it. You are right! You have to educate yourself on eating vegan. Being vegan is more than eating just salads and veggie burgers. 🥦🥑🥬🍓🫐

@Haloplayervfo

8 ай бұрын

It’s so simple though just google foods containing protein zinc iron calcium omega 3 etc then eat rice/pasta for carbs and if your struggling with amino acids eat tofu it contains all essential amino acids.

@LP-kw3kj

8 ай бұрын

You should get nutrition from both meat and plants, lacking either isn't good for you.

@LP-kw3kj

8 ай бұрын

Unless there is moral reason of some sort

@AwakenedEarthGoddess1111

8 ай бұрын

@@LP-kw3kj Okay...going to try to be calm with you here. Research. Look it up. There are an estimated 1.5 Billion vegetarians in the world. And an estimated 79 million vegans in the world. And we're ALIVE and well. Figure THAT out. Human Beings do not have to eat animals to live, thrive and be healthy. Contrary to what you have been taught to believe. Basically brainwashed.