I've worked with plants for years. They are unbelievably awesome. Plants communicate with each other, have a symbiosis with fungi which technically isn't a plant. Trees have been known to put feeding roots to their own young saplings. Could that be natural selection doing a thing or is it conscious is some way.

@GPenn09

Жыл бұрын

Witch for sure

@paulhart7739

Жыл бұрын

Humans have symbiosis with iPhones and Apple watches, but iPhones and Apple watches are not humans

@julianrosenberger1793

Жыл бұрын

Or is natural selection happening with/through consciousness?

@mitchconnerandsometimesjlotoo

Жыл бұрын

@@julianrosenberger1793 perhaps. One day I think science will look at them as more sentient or intelligent.

@mitchconnerandsometimesjlotoo

Жыл бұрын

@@GPenn09 silly me. I edited.

Much depends on definitions and so it is with the terms, "conscious" and "consciousness." Here are some: A thing is conscious if it: (1) exists. Stop or continue. and (2) interacts with its environment. Stop or continue. and (3) makes decisions. Stop or continue. and (4) is alive; Stop or continue. and (5) is aware of being alive; Stop or continue. and (6) is aware of being a unique entity (self-aware); Stop or continue. and (7) experiences qualia. Stop or continue. and (8) is aware of ultimate reality (cosmic consciousness). Stop or continue. (9) ...

Lex’s little one liner responses are so funny and well delivered I fucking love this guy

We can't measure/define/replicate human consciousness; or any consciousness, much less that of a plant.

@Veigayboy

26 күн бұрын

We definitely can measure human consciousness. All I have to do is test your response to stimuli and whether or not you are aware of the stimuli you are responding to. I could test your reflexes by kicking the back of your knee, and if you don't involuntarily respond then I know you aren't responding to one particular form of stimuli. Furthermore, if you don't turn around and yell me "What the fuck are you doing?", then I'd safely assume you aren't aware of the stimuli. In the case where you don't respond stimuli, and aren't aware of said stimuli, then it is the case you not conscious. Or you have peripheral neuropathy, and I should have done more testing.

Dude is rubbing pea tendrils in the dark. Research.

@JustKillam

Жыл бұрын

There are 34 rules when it comes to researching plant consciousness

@studleydewrite2942

Жыл бұрын

Like you never touched your tendril in the dark.

@WilliamParkerer

Жыл бұрын

For science

Plants utilize quantom super positioning in order to allow for photosynthesis...it would be impossible otherwise.it actually forces light particles to take every single possible path to the synthesizeing core...the potential partical that makes it is the one the plant observes ..it collapses to one and receives it.

@MehulP30

Жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Just starting familiarizing myself with quantum mechanics. Can you share any resources / videos that talks about plants using super positioning?

@nickmckeehan6428

Жыл бұрын

@@MehulP30 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYaHratuccLSo8o.html

I know of a plant that talks to me. It screams out "smoke me, smoke me". Its so soft and sweet that you can't help your self but to smoke her. She's know by many names but most people know her as Mary Jane. She's the main frame.

No, but read 'How Forests Think', by Eduardo Kahn (Anthropocene academic). Anthropologies attempt (subtitle of the book) Towards an Anthropology Beyond the Human. Is a coiling vine similar to a hair follicle? Forms' effortless efficacy is the major question of his argument.

A (simplistic) example otherwise could be the old farmer's tradition that involves harvesting and sowing in response to lunar phases, mainly to determine and improve shelf life. Can't be explained with any classical physics yet it works by observation of plant growth responses. The tendrils example is fascinating but it wouldn't require awareness of any sort ( human limbs could move reactively to stimuli the cells are programmed to respond to ) . Could just be an impression but I think the absence of a directing brain to produce the indication (if not the experience) of suffering and thriving is indicative of (perhaps divisible yet communicating to form a unit) simple consciousness. Plants suffer too 😄

I watched a show years ago about plants. They had electrodes hooked up to plants and there was little electrical movement,until…they dumped live baby shrimp into boiling water next to them. The meter went crazy. Still amazes me.

@lostintime8114

Жыл бұрын

Dang foreal?

@phattjohnson

Жыл бұрын

How was the equipment set up is my first question.. all the steam probably triggered it :P

@GPenn09

Жыл бұрын

Source or gtfo

@WilliamParkerer

Жыл бұрын

Was the meter a thermo one?

@mvmlego1212

8 ай бұрын

This and a few other experiments about plant plant consciousness are discussed in a video essay titled "Plant Consciousness: a Pseudoscientific History". I recommend it.

The premise is wrong. EVERYTHING is consciousness.

@SawYouDie

Жыл бұрын

Existence is mental

I have seen many documentaries showing plants have consciousness, and am sure they are aware they exist. I have seen my own plants react and thrive will attention and wilt and die without my love and attention.

if a plant tendril has consciousness then the thermostat in my hot water tank has consciousness. in this sense consciousness is just the ability to act according to a changed environment like friction against the plant cells or temperature increase against the bimetallic strip, regardless of whether or not there is a "want" for these objects to do so. in my opinion imagining a plant "wanting" to do something is firstly assuming it has a choice (conflating consciousness with free will) and secondly also a way to anthropomorphize and fall into further traps of assumptions. i believe a tendril a thermostat and a human being are all conscious, just do a different degree, and should a system of conscious parts act together it can sometimes give the appearance of more and more unpredictable outcomes and then when complexity is high enough falsely leads an observer to believe that that there is some free will involved--i don't think so.

@laszlokiss483

Жыл бұрын

Wrong, sedatives wouldnt stop your thermostat however sedatives do stop the venus fly trap from closing though. The thermostat exists in a constant state of unawareness plants like humans have a state of awareness that can be "shut off". If you really believed that last bit youd have probably not posted this as its actually a better rebuttal of your own logic here instead of something to stand on. PROVE to me you actually chose to do that and werent simply acting on impulse driven by an underlying mechanism as a means to an end for a hit of dopamine I can simply say your comments complexity doesnt do that on its own and any perception that it does is just a false impression on the observer.

2:52 😂

Consciousness has consciousness!! Think about it!!

My short attention span really irritates me, but luckily not for to long!

Plant rights

No

Plants feel. We have known this but refuse it

@imnotabird1118

Жыл бұрын

No they dont

@grimnir7655

Жыл бұрын

@@imnotabird1118 yes they do

@imnotabird1118

Жыл бұрын

@@grimnir7655 illusions is all u got

@grimnir7655

Жыл бұрын

@@imnotabird1118 That's all this is isn't it? your illusion that we know everything or can explain everything only because we see it, my illusion that that we know nothing & there is more than what we just see. That idea must be terrifying to some i suppose.

@imnotabird1118

Жыл бұрын

@@grimnir7655 think again

Lex - Flirt on your own time.

I don't think plants and vegetables are conscious. In fact, I hate em. All dem stupid branches and shit, flying in my face when I'm in the woods. Get rid of em.

I had a plant once and I gave it water and it said oh I need that and started to grow and when there was no water it decided to stop growing, thats cool.

Vegans about to be screwed

....bro....

She comes from Vulcan

@dalelane1948

Жыл бұрын

you are not gunna believe this, i was just a bout to type a comment saying "She comes from Bajor"

@HouseJawn

Жыл бұрын

Lol 😆

sentire

The brain is a chaotic system and quantum physics introduces small random inputs. The chaotic system can massively amplify very small quantum fluctuations leading to an unpredictable decision. Our decisions are not likely deterministic... Also, it shouldn't be ruled out that the mind may be able to influence those quantum fluctuation leading to a desired choice...

@frankkockritz5441

Жыл бұрын

Hate to disagree but Max Tagmark, MIT, proved mathematically that decoherence would collapse any wave function or otherwise quantum operations. Hammeroff did not disagree with Tagmark’s proof. This is why you won’t see Penrose / Hammeroff videos any longer on this subject matter.

@David-gu8hv

Жыл бұрын

@@frankkockritz5441 When wave functions collapse, they collapse randomly...

@David-gu8hv

Жыл бұрын

@@frankkockritz5441 I actually was not talking about quantum operations...

@frankkockritz5441

Жыл бұрын

@@David-gu8hv not sure I understand the point you’re making

@David-gu8hv

Жыл бұрын

@@frankkockritz5441 please explain

Everything is alive, intelligent and communicates. Rocks, plants and animals.

Sorry man, but this chick needs to dig a little deeper. Sounds like me up there talking on mushrooms.

@WilliamParkerer

Жыл бұрын

Yeah not to disrespect but she majored in dancing so I can't take her words seriously..

I can see how this could be an unsettling line of scientific research! Most of all for Vegans. Oh the angst....

@andreasvandieaarde

7 ай бұрын

Lol, as if *some plants* MAYBE having consciousness automatically means all plants are conscious beings. I'm not even convinced that all animals are conscious.

Bad news for vegans I reckon.

No, of course they don't. If you think plants have consciousness, you're talking about something else (chemical reactions and other basic response stimuli, etc.), not what we experience as consciousness. Let's not get over carried away on what we mean by consciousness and get into unnecessary woo woo.

@jonathanbowling3129

Жыл бұрын

Free The Plants!

@tadhgmeagher5983

Жыл бұрын

Consciousness = "the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings."

@videosbymathew

Жыл бұрын

@@tadhgmeagher5983 Exactly. Plants do not have both of those qualities. They are not aware of but they can be responsive to stimuli.

@andromedasriddle9587

Жыл бұрын

Everything is a chemical reaction, the weather, thinking, evolution, life , death, consciousness, constipation etc.

@videosbymathew

Жыл бұрын

@@andromedasriddle9587 Yep, that too. Not sure what your point is there other than to try and find a way around my response.

#peatoo