I personally believe that the past paradox mons get their energy atleast partially from the sun, considering they all have the ability protosynthesis. Considering it's not actual photosynthesis, its either a suppliment to their primary diet, or the diet is a supplent to their primary sunlight depending on how efficient it is. The future ones probably dont need actual food and are instead powered by alternative powersources that they fuel themselves. Wouldnt know what exactly for each of them, but atleast Iron Moth seems to have solar panels to support the idea.

@reallynotsogoldenisopod

6 ай бұрын

Future paradox can probably still process food in some way, as they can all eat berries and Miraidon loves sandwiches.

@bulbabeam

6 ай бұрын

@@reallynotsogoldenisopodJust to play devils advocate, just because they can doesn’t mean they would necessarily have to. Porygon, while not a paradox Pokémon, does not need to eat, yet it still can. I think it’s more of an enjoyment rather than a necessity.

@reallynotsogoldenisopod

6 ай бұрын

@@bulbabeam I mean yeah, that's what I meant. Their primary power source seems to be electricity but the food is just a bonus

@tezminator

6 ай бұрын

A while ago I saw someone comment that each of the future paradox represented a different type of energy generation. Indeed Iron Moth was appointed as solar energy and along with it, if I remember correctly, we have Iron Jugilis for wind energy, Iron Bundle for water energy (as in hydroelectric plant generated energy), Iron Thorns for nuclear energy (as in Tyranitar is partially inspired by a Godzilla character and Godzilla is heavily tied into nuclear stuff), Iron Hands for mechanical energy (as in energy generated from the manual labor by its big moving hands), Iron Treads for kinetic energy (as in Iron Treads resemble the treads of a tank and that's the kind of energy that the tank weapons use, although, I agree, this is the weakest link of all of them and barely counts) and Iron Valiant for Psychic Energy (as in Iron Valiant was made in an attempt to create the ultimate Psychic type Pokemon, according to its dex entries or the magazine, can't remember which and although we do not have that in our world, there does exist psychic energy in Pokemon). As for the paradox swords of justice, they all have the Psychic type, so I think there's probably a connection with Iron Valiant, but I have no idea how they fit into this energy generation stuff beyond what Iron Valiant already represents.

@outrageouslamp4539

6 ай бұрын

That's a fair conclusion. In game, we at least get confirmation that both great tusk and iron treads consume plant matter as they eat herba mystica and become titans. Miraidon canonically eats sandwiches, so it's likely that all the future paradox pokemon are capable of eating and extracting nutrients from said food.

Technically, paradox pokemon aren't originally from Area Zero. So it makes sense that it would be hard to fit them on here.

@SweetTaleTeller

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, they are technically an invasive species, like what the UBs were based on.

Pokemon ecology and the like is honestly such an unlooked at part of the pokemon world and I'm really glad I found this channel! I'm such a sucker for looking at fictional world though a scientific lens.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I'm also a sucker for that so welcome to the channel!

@gentlepeeps3351

6 ай бұрын

Prolly avoided as kids won’t like to think about Pokemon eating each other although some Pokédex entry do mention it

@seaborgium919

6 ай бұрын

I feel like this could be explored in a game like Legends, but not a mainline game. As interesting as it is. (New pokemon snap does have a hunting Pidgeot though)

@MattTOB618

6 ай бұрын

I've heard that one of the things they think about first when designing a new Pokemon is how it eats - Magnemite, for example, eats electricity from power plants (I have no idea if this is true anymore).

@roaringthunder115

6 ай бұрын

I feel the exact same way

With how they are portrayed, Paradox Pokemon are essentially like invasive species for the Area Zero ecosystem. Since it's speculated that they could be from timelines separate from this one, that they have similar niches to their counterparts [jury's out for Great Tusk, who could act as an omnivore who hunts and bullies other predatory Pokemon off from their meals.]

@lavadragon6444

6 ай бұрын

Well it's not just that. The future paradox mons likely exist in a time where man has 100% conquered nature but now must rely on replicating it to save the future (except Jugulis. That one is weird). They have an unknown power source and are likely in danger losing that power source very easily. Since no one knows how they work, they are screwed, and who knows the massive consequences their dead bodies bring. Past paradox mons are too aggressive due to the era they're from. They're also WAAAY stronger than their present counter parts and can cause huge damage from their power alone, leading to the destruction of the habitat and many populations.

Something cool about Garganacl is that it also acts as a scavenger, using its Salt Cure move to quickly break down the bodies of dead steel types and robot paradoxes that most Pokémon likely wouldn’t eat. Garganacl has got it good in Area Zero lmao

my hypothesis for Garganacl is that they are Megafauna generalist-Predators like Bears that specialize in eating Fish, Aquatic Fauna, as well as Steel types. Considering the waters here are commonly hunted by both Aquatic Fauna AND steel-types like Bisharps, they would default to becoming Apex until a more aggressive, faster predator moves into its territory. Also, due to the fact that Garganacl learn Recover and Stealth Rock and have such a slow speed stat, Garganacls are slow Territorial animals that patrol a specific region. Most likely using the salt they produce to salt specific spots of the earth, similar to marking territory. Only instead of slashing or spraying trees and rocks, they salt specific spots in the soil around them, leaving dry rocky patches among the grass and trees. Stealth Rock would also allow for them to set up protective barriers around their nests to prevent ambush predators from killing their young when sleeping at night. They might even hunt flying types that wander into their territory with projectile moves like Rock-Blast and Mud-Shot. And many of the common fully-grown Insects are all incredibly vulnerable to it. So Volcarona, Ice Moth, and Venonat may fit into its daily diet when a faster water type escapes it. Likely the only real threats that might hurt a Garganacl are the Medicham line, but these are primarily foragers, so will avoid fighting with them and focus on eating fruits in tall trees, and the Garchomp line, which are true Apex Predators. But the sheer size and strength of a Garganacl may intidimate most Garchomps from directly engaging with it unless absolutely necessary.

@J242D

6 ай бұрын

I don’t see why a medicham wouldn’t go after a garganacl. Even deer eat at salt licks, something like gogoat might consume them in a similar way too

@prcervi

6 ай бұрын

the thing my brain jumped to at the mention that it salt cures it's prey is maybe it's a partial scavenger

@honeyham6788

6 ай бұрын

@@prcervi ooh, i hadn't thought of that. but a generalist that hibernates and protects a singular territory would absolutely want to preserve it's food for long periods

@honeyham6788

6 ай бұрын

@@J242D I think they might wander the same territory and eat the salt that garganacle leave behind as markers. But I think it's a matter of territories. Medicham is big on jumping high into the air, attacking from high up. and has really long arms. This indicates that it likely lives in dense forested areas, mostly in the treetops and uses it's powerful kicks as a defensive tool that it only uses in extreme cases due to the high risk nature of it. I think with how violent and aggressive Garganacl's adolecent stages are, most pokemon would avoid a direct confrontation with a much bigger, older version. as for gogoat, i think they might again, grass in nearby areas. but they gain the majority of their diet from the sun and the salt garganacl throws around should be more than enough sustinance. they shouldn't need to worry too much about going after garganacls themselves.

@byzantine5761

6 ай бұрын

given that Sneasel, a Pokemon known for stealing eggs from Pokemon nests, is also weak to rock types, I think it would be VERY funny to see a Sneasel running up to a nest it saw and then getting impaled by a bunch of rocks

I like that the future paradox pokemon are included and not discounted just because they're mechanical. They still consume berries leftovers and other food-based consumables just fine. they probably have some kind of artificial digestive system that allows them to eat and gain energy from it just as a normal animal would.

@mlpfanboy1701

6 ай бұрын

But they also can gain it from changes in electrical energy in the area.

@byzantine5761

6 ай бұрын

My theory is that Iron Moth is somewhat of a solar panel, and every other future paradox feeds off the electricity left over from defeating an Iron Moth. Additionally, it's also possible that Miraidon itself is capable of generating electricity with its Hadron Engine, but I doubt any Pokemon except perhaps Iron Valiant would have the nerve to try fighting the Iron Serpent

So regular Misdreavus actually has a helpful pokedex entry for this lol: They feed off fear. (which is why a lot of them have a habit of doing spooky ghost type stuff in the wild, but ones travelling with trainers don't show those same tendencies.) They'd make great therapy pokemon for people with anxiety lol. Flutter Mane, as a Scarlet Paradox mon, seems to be inspired by what that kind of entity would have looked like before the existence of humans... Albeit poorly (Why does it randomly have a spiky head tentacle lol. The feathers were cool just stick with it.)

@lavadragon6444

6 ай бұрын

I think it gives the idea that, like many of the first living organisms from the past, were trying out different things before they came to what they would be in the future. The horns were likely used for something but clearly got abandoned the seconded the mon found its niche in nature. Not to mention there's still the question of why is there a past Misdreavus but no Mismagius, same with Jiggs and magneton. What evolutionary journey did they partake to get them to tone down their past forms and lead them to their evolutions and do they relate to the changes their past selves made today

@C3l3bi1

6 ай бұрын

It didnt evolve into mismagius paradox pokemom are not past versipns of new pokemon, they are like the name implies a paradox. Not meant to exist because it would make no sense for mismagiud to exist if misdreavous needed to be bigger and stronger it would just remain flutter mane. ​@@lavadragon6444

@MikeTheEnforcer

6 ай бұрын

​@@lavadragon6444Considering the games finally give the answer to if they're paradox or not. They are paradoxes, but from a different timeline. And because of the time they are from, they most likely had to evolve to fight back against predators.

@lavadragon6444

6 ай бұрын

@@MikeTheEnforcer hmm maybe for scream tail that's true but Flutter Mane is a ghost pokemon and I doubt animals would ever be hungry for something without a physical body. Seeing as to how Midreavus feeds off of fear, Flutter Mane likely does too but looks more animalistic bc humans aren't around, so they have to rely on size and other features to scare their victims. I guess in the future if they return, they'll be more updates on them as for now, barely any of the pokedex entries really say what any of the paradox mons do

@big__shell

6 ай бұрын

flutter mane's head spines appear to be a trait retained from a shared ancestor with sneasel. if you look at sneasel's back, it has the same spikes. this isn't the only similarity with sneasel, as one of flutter mane's feather crests which are already similar to sneasel is different from the others, appearing more diverse in feather colouration. flutter mane's dress like structure beneath the head also has a red spike reminiscent of sneasel's feather. both of these are on the left side of the body, the same side as sneasel's feather. if these features are supposed to resemble parts of sneasel it would not be that much of an oddity, as flutter mane would not be the only paradox that suggests shared ancestry between two modern day species. scream tail has traits of both jigglypuff and clefairy, suggesting that both families diverged from a common ancestor. scream tail is either this ancestor, or is more closely related to it than jigglypuff is. some people might say that since the paradoxes are from a different timeline that means they're not actually relatives and are just dinosaur or robot flavoured versions of the pokemon we are familiar with, but there is little precedent for this interpretation. the professors themselves state in the same sentence that they reveal this information that the time machine sends pokeballs to either the past or future in these timelines. the reason why is because if this was done to the timeline that the professor lives in, it may cause an actual paradox. potentially, meddling in the timeline could create conditions in which let's just say as an example amoonguss's ancestors go extinct, but that can't happen in the past of scarlet's timeline because amoonguss exists in the present. for as many alternate universes that are very bizarre and different from ones we get to see, there are also very many that are extremely similar. possibly more that are extremely similar than ones that are extremely different. saying that the paradoxes can't be relatives of pokemon that exist in the world of scarlet and violet is very unhelpful for understanding what they actually are, because it ends the discussion right there. just dinosaur misdreavus or tin can donphan, and nothing more, despite evidence suggesting these are different entities existing in the same text that spawned this very interpretation

There are some flaws in your analysis. To start with, Skiddo might only eat opportunistically, if at all: 0:36 Skiddo, Violet: As long as it has sunlight and water, Skiddo can make energy with the leaves on its body, allowing it to live on rocky mountains barren of food. Since Gogoat evolves from Skiddo, it can probably do the same, & thus, also likely doesn't eat much. 1:50 Hippopotas preys! See its Sword entry. 2:02 Venomoth & Venonat prey! See their Pokemon Emerald entries, among others. 2:32 "Somewhat" may be an understatement. 3:22 I would not call Floette's lifestyle one-sided. It gives its own power to flowers (Ultra Moon), makes withered flowers healthy (Scarlet, Red Flower), pours its energy into flowers (Violet, Red Flower), & exchanges power with flowers (Violet, Blue Flower). 4:10 I doubt Meditite & Medicham are omnivorous or even very influential. For Meditite, it's repeatedly stated that it survives on just one berry a day! & Medicham hones its mind through starvation (Platinum) & is known to meditate for a whole month without eating. (Emerald) 4:58 Unsourced/Over-generalized, I'd say. Diglett chews on plant roots underground, & is implied to eat vegetables. (Sun) Flittle chases down anyone that steals its "beloved berries", suggesting it's fruitivorous. 5:02 Dunsparce is not a mole! It's based on the tsuchinoko, a snake-like cryptid! & based on it happily sharing tunnels with Diglett (Ultra Sun), it's likely also a herbivore. Dudunsparce also is described in its Scarlet 3-Segment Form entry as gentle, & carries Pokemon out of its nest on its back. I doubt it preys. 5:12 Them preying is unsourced. Glimmora can also be seen latching onto walls in gameplay. 5:43 Sableye eating anything but gems is unsourced, even if how it gets calories & teeth shape provide inferences. & if it's stealing any energy, it's the spirits of people, as it's stated Sableye is thought to do so & feared for this perception. 6:53 Hawlucha has no basis, & Talonflame is largely wrong. Many entries state "It finishes its prey off with a colossal kick.", Ultra Moon says "Bird Pokémon make up most of its diet.", & Sun says "Its favorite foods are Wingull and Pikipek.". 6:56 Kudos to the Let's Go mode footage, but no it is not! Hawlucha, Sword entry: "It drives its opponents to exhaustion with its agile maneuvers, then ends the fight with a flashy finishing move." Many other entries go on about its agile, flashy, pose-filled fighting style & skills. Not really the behaviour of an ambush predator. 7:42 Specifically, it's only said to cooperate to rob bird Pokemon nests, & fights break out over who gets to eat the eggs. Otherwise, Sneasel is never said to work in more than a pair (Violet), & since Donphan isn't found in Area Zero, your visual is misleading. You may have confused it with its evolved form Weavile, which attack in packs against "prey as large as Mamoswine.". (Sword) 8:27 Questionable. Area Zero's waters are very shallow for fish, & per Pawniard's White Pokedex entry: They fight at Bisharp's command. They cling to their prey and inflict damage by sinking their blades into it. Ergo, whatever they're hunting is likely much bigger. 11:47 Unsourced. In fact, Gible is not preferential, to Diglett or otherwise! Shield: Gible attacks anything that moves, and it drags whatever it catches into the crevice that is its lair. Gabite lacks info, but Garchomp targets the opposite of Diglett: Whole flocks of bird Pokemon! (Sun) It also competes with Salamence for food, per Ultra Sun. 11:53 Little suggests Deino exits its cave. Per Violet: It nests deep inside a cave. Food there is scarce, so Deino will sink its teeth into anything that moves and attempt to eat it. & Zweilous would only leave its cave for food if there's none left there. Its Y entry (among others) says: After it has eaten up all the food in its territory, it moves to another area. (& Hydreigon attacks/bites anything that moves.) 14:44 Even with phasing, I think the shallow waters would make this difficult. 17:23 Iron Hands's animations don't suggest to me the range of motion to dig. Makuhita is seemingly related & can knock down trees, which may be more practical for it to forage. 17:50 As someone else mentioned, Flutter Mane is based on Misdreavus, which feeds on fear. 18:00 Delibird are omnivorous & known to eat Bug Pokemon. (Ultra Sun) Okay analysis video. However, I think your research was unfortunately lacking. Your real world zoological & ecological knowledge is commendable, though, even if I think it was often misplaced here. Thanks for uploading!

i think your dreepy and drakloak analysis actually makes alot of sense. we already have evidence that the line weaponizes dreepy as the final stage is stated to actively attack others by launching the dreepy like rockets, but dreepy are not used weaponized by Dragapult, they also hide in its specialized horns, and drakloak is stated to be motherly and protective of its dreepy to the point of panic if they are absent. i think its very likely that drakloak serves as a protector of the dreepy from large predators, with its huge flat head serving as a place dreepy can hide under in the presence of bird pokemon and as a difficult point for aggressors to grapple onto, similar to a shield. its worth noting that well SOME dreepy stay with dragapult for protection, we dont see entire packs of dreepy around it, just the two, and dragapult isnt really known for the same protective tendencies. generally there will be less fully grown specimens of any animal then there are children, and its worth noting that dreepy evolves at an extremely high level, and then it does not take long for it to evolve a second time. What im getting at, is your idea makes perfect sense, the dreepy do all the work well the evolutions, much larger but much smaller in numbers, serve to protect the smaller and more agile dreepy. Its very likely that, in the event their protector dies or evolves and moves on, that dreepy scatter and look for a new guardian, with many of them ending up as prey to fast and opportunistic pokemon like talonflame. i can totally see the evolution of a drakloak into dragapult as an event similar to turtle eggs hatching, with tons of different carnivores and omnivores coming around to try to take advantage of the rare bounty of vulnerable young. edit: the more i think about it the more it makes sense! there are no dragapult in area zero, meaning once they evolve they leave so as to prevent inbreeding and spread their genes. i doubt that dreepy can handle the altitudes and speed that dragapult fly at, as its said to go at mach speed. once dragapult enters a new area, i bet it looks for survivors of other drakloak to adopt as its weapons. it only uses exactly two dreepy, and any dreepy that survive the 'culling' would no doubt be the fastest, hardiest, and strongest dreepy and best for weapons. they would also serve as beacons that there are other dragapult in the area available for mating.

I’d like to point out that Area Zero does not have an actual ”day-night” cycle, with the crystals (probably) keeping the place always lit like it was midday.

I think the reason that Pokemon has a tendency of filling their regions with more predators that prey is just because more predatory creatures in the real world are considered cute or cool and are therefore more popular inspirations for Pokemon, therefore leading to Pokemon having too many predator Pokemon. If GameFreak wanted to make the games more realistic, the ratio of prey Pokemon to predator Pokemon needs to be changed, making Braviary and Lycanroc much rarer and Farigiraf, Donphan and Camurupt much more plentiful.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

True. Most routes would just be packed with 1,000 bug types and like 20 electric rodents lol

I've always thought the Floette line were fungi. They even look quite a lot like the Hattenne line which look like the Shiinotic line. So I think all these lines are some sort of fungi.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

That would explain the plant mutualism!

@elmsigreen

6 ай бұрын

@geekecology There is even a mushroom called a "witch's hat," which could be an inspiration for the Hattenne line

@mlpfanboy1701

6 ай бұрын

There floral fairies.

@elmsigreen

6 ай бұрын

@@mlpfanboy1701 Where?

@DJCheese77

6 ай бұрын

what is bro on 💀

So hear me out… What if the Rock Pokémon found lower down, like Glimmora and Garganacl, are actually producers that get energy from the Tera Crystals?

Oh my goodness this channel is everything I’ve ever obsessed over since I got into the series. I LOVE ecology and speculative biology!!!!! I love the horrifying mental image of how a robot would possibly eat. Are they bio-fueled?

This is an incredible analysis and I would love to see it for more locations in the Pokémon world! I especially like the Dreepy/Dracloak theory; explaining ghost types is always hard but that makes a lot of sense! My only concern is your classification of Glimmet and Glimmora as filter feeders. Pretty much every Pokémon is far too large for Glimmora to catch, let alone Glimmet. I briefly thought that perhaps some Pokémon have a “planktonic” stage in the wild, but the only confirmed way Pokémon reproduce is through eggs, and those hatch the full-grown version of any Pokémon. It is possible that reproduction is different in the wild, especially considering oddities like Kangaskhan’s baby and Cubone’s mother and considering the fact that Pokémon biologists are REALLY bad at their jobs (“oh, this egg just appeared! Nobody knows where it came from!”). If that isn’t the case, I expect the line are some form of consumer drawing Terastal energy out of the walls of Area Zero that was originally placed there thousands of years ago by Terapagos.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I definitely envisioned them focusing more on the non-pokémon side of things to get their meals like insects or airborne bacteria/fungi but sapping crystal energy is also a possibility!

There is something so nice about seeing this large food web, I also loved the idea of dreepy feeding its parents or that they are a colonial organism!

My personal assumption is that ALL of the Paradox Pokemon are apex predators in Area Zero. They are all aggressive towards the player when spotted, so there's nothing to stop me from assuming they probably hold a strong dominion over Area Zero's ecosystem. My headcanon is that all of the non-Paradox mons in Area Zero can only live there because they're either strong enough to fight them off, or are nimble/smart enough to avoid them entirely. In other words they live a constant life of fear lol.

I’d love to see a food web for one of the environments in Pokemon Snap/New Pokemon Snap.

I've seen other pokemon ecology videos talking about pokemon eating grass type pokemon because they are herbivores, this bugs me. It takes energy and a different mentality to chase down a mobile thinking plant, basically just normal animal predation. Anyway you seem to have considered this and I love you for it hehe

I'm not an ecologist, but I try to add the DLC Pokémon to this food web for fun, as well as some others you didn't include. Koraidon/Miraidon: Top predators, no questions asked. Look at them. And as ours enjoys sandwiches, which can be made out of anything including bread, they're likely omnivorous. Walking Wake: While technically not found in area zero (Or anywhere) It's very likely it would be in a realistic scenario. It would obviously be a carnivore, as it's a tyrannosaur/raptor like dino Pokémon, and it's possible it mostly ate aquatic prey due to its typing and being able to walk on water. Raging Bolt: Most likely a Herbivore, eating off of trees because long neck. However, since it has saber teeth (Under the clouds) it's possible it was omnivorous and ate meat when it couldn't find trees. Gouging Fire: While it is a ceratopsian, the claws and fangs just screams predator. It may have, however, possibly grazed on low shrubs or trees while it wasn't hunting. The Future swords of Justice: Putting them all here because they would all be herbivores, as they are all based on hoofed mammals. They might eat the occasional bug type if it's there, but otherwise they're mostly grazers. Carbink: It's literally just a rock, probably feeds of crystal energy or something. Noivern: I'm not sure if I should include this as only one can be found in the underdepths where it has NO potential food source, but I'm including it anyway, because it's confirmed to be omnivorous, preferring fruits and likely small bug or flying types. Terapagos: It's been dormant for thousands of years, so if it needs to eat, it definitely doesn't need to eat much. It probably absorbs energy from the crystals that surround it. Its dex entry and ability could also imply that it gains energy from offensive attacks, it's hit by.

Excelent video! the amount of thought and research you put in really shows. Makes me wonder what the food web in some other biospheres look like, in particular the Blueberry Academy artificial biomes and the safari zones from older games!!

I think the big food web really makes it feel more alive, that's probably why the algorithm liked this video . Maybe consider making yourself a big spreadsheet with all the routes and how many unique pokemon there are so you don't miss any rich ones? Pulling the data off of bulbapedia

I would argue Medicham and Meditite despite resembling primates (specifically human) skulls that doesn’t mean they would be omnivorous This is where looking into what the mons are based on and their actual behaviors would make sense- they certainly aren’t pack hunters ; or hunters period like actual primates - In a lot of Buddhist/Hindu circles people are vegetarian, or don’t eat meat at all for religious or spiritual reasons- im sure many monks as well I would guess Medicham and meditite eat very little for strengthening their minds (meditation, yoga power is pure power in Japanese, very disciplined pokemon) and would just consume plants when needed to maintain their physique

I would argue Great Tusk can be omnivorous, even primarily herbivorous, using its teeth to grab leaves and strip them from trees and shrubs, except for the fact one is wandering in the desert in Scarlet, which supports the digging predator direction.

I was literally mentioning to a friend how i found it entertaining thinking what pokémon eats what in their given ecosystem and this channel finally found its way to me to ease that itch in my brain

Wow, you put soo much thought into this! It makes for a fascinating watch and you explain your reasoning for placing the Pokemon on the Food Web very well

First time watching your channel! Something I'd like to propose re: the future paradoxes is that parts of their bodies may function as solar panels! This is especially apt for Iron Moth, whose solar panel inspirations are clear in the design, but the long stretch of panels across the back of Iron Treads might function that way as well, etc.!

This is the first of your videos I’ve come across, but I am IMMEDIATELY subscribing. Can’t WAIT to watch more of your content! I love the science nerd side of this franchise!

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

This was amazing! Thoroughly explained without overwhelming with information, I really enjoyed this!

Very cool!!!! Gosh this is such a side of the pokemon universe the devs only seem to look at (or are given TIME to look at) only in passing, but this is so cool! I was gonna say, would Mirai/Koraidon be the Apex predator in this food web? Though... there are only 1/2 of them in the area in general, so they don't really play the same way... very cool!!! Definitely makes me wanna dig into some routes too!

I think past paradox ability called photosynthesis I think I don't clearly remember the name but it is something like that and future paradox are just roborts thay probably feed on electric tarin Your thoughts 💭 Great video a sub from me

The Drakloak stuff sounds pretty accurate given it's evolution: It finds a spot to wait for prey to approach before sending out a Dreepy to poke and prod, acting as backup if it is needed (Dreepy is weak after all). Evolving into Dragapult allows it to send out two Dreepy at a time, acting as guided missiles to hit their target(s) and possibly attack once the initial hit has been made. My only question would be how Dragapult and Drakloak interact, as it seems Drakloak stay alone with just one or a few Dreepy while Dragapult carries multiple in its head. What happens if a Dreepy Evolves? Do Drakloak or Dragapult have to seek out a new Dreepy, or is there always one to replace it? Do the Drakloak leave the group after evolving? Do they have to find their own Dreepy? I like the idea that Drakloak and Dragapult always have Dreepy in reserve either as extra ammo (Dragapult) or extra backup (Drakloak) in case they either need it in battle or in the case that a Dreepy evolves. This relationship also has me questioning if Dreepy start out as ammo for Dragapult, then move on to go with a Drakloak to start really fighting, before evolving and guiding it's own Dreepy itself. that would make sense, but if a Dragapult dies and no Drakloak can replace it, how does that affect their cycle? I would love to see more from this line either in new pokedex entries/animations/field behaviors or in a new regional form that tackles the idea of the cycle being broken by some other threat environmentally, whether that be an apex predator that takes out Dragapult(s) easily or environmental conditions that force it to change tactics. Wasn't expecting to get so interested in the behaviors of the Drakloak line, but now I want to see more from the line in some way in the future.

awesome channel. you need deserve a ton more subs

This is the first video I’ve seen from you and I just wanna say this is the coolest fucking channel ever, and the Gollum impression was INSANE

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

That's the real reason I made this video, been working on that impression for years

Are you planning to make food webs for different regions and not just paldea? or your gonna complete paldea first?

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

Some of my earlier food webs were for non-Paldea regions. Just been focusing on those lately because S/V was new, but I definitely plan to do other regions again soon

@johnezekielfrancisco4417

6 ай бұрын

@@geekecology looking forward to those:)

Just discovered your channel. You have done what i always wanted. Hat down!

@rudentleo662

6 ай бұрын

In a scientific way of thinking imade some tears ago a study for determine wich pokemon is originally from each region. And it was very interesting. Like houndoom being from kanto and not jotho.

I like the premise of this video a lot, but I can’t help but feel as though some of the conclusions drawn on the food web are somewhat derivative and too centered on reality. Like something like sableye wouldn’t even necessarily **need** calories as it’s literally a ghost, it’s probably partially consuming the soul or something. Something like Jumpluff probably hunts the Hippowdon or Donphan line based on the origins of alolan marowak. And being so specific about the dentition and then assuming smth like iron hands (a robot without a mouth) is a hunter? I respect the effort and quality just a few discrepancies imo

If I had to guess what makes me so crazy for Pokémon, it’s the Pokémon themselves and how they fit into their region. Specifically, how they influence the region and each other. It even makes me wanna study ecology or biology of my current plans fall through!! P.S. the way you pronounce Sableye makes me want to die

Hi there 👋 , I just discovered your channel and I already love it , i even think of a pokemon food web but yours are better and had a high quality . Speaking of Food Webs , Can you do ALL OF THE BIOMES IN THE NEW POKEMON SNAP !!!! 📸 . I would to see your takes on it . And I would love if you do it . ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Edit : I love ❤ the Wumple 🐛 video and the Girafarig 🦒video . Another Edit : Theres a pokemon-like game called TEMTEM 🥊👁️💎 . You should play it and discuss the Food Webs in each island in the floating archipelago. Love the pin. ❤️❤️❤️

Consider this for the paradox mons; they may not even be from the past or future. the time machine doesn't line up with the scarlet/violet books at all, it was recent, the books are not, but both speak of the same species. What was bringing them to the present in the past before the time machine even existed? I think what was happening is more akin to porygon; the machine doesn't pull pokemon from out of time, it creates them from imagination. Knowing that, they could not require food at all, feeding only on the terrestrial energy... Or worse, they're 7 kinds of messed up and eat whatever Sada/Turo imagined them to eat. Miraidon clearly can eat food, despite being austensibly some kind of mechanoid. Fabricated pokemon pulled from someone's imagination could easily be stuck in an sad existence where they eat food that mismatches their teeth or even their whole digestive system.

This is exactly the kind of content I want to see.

Also i now totally see the dreepy line as similar to an ant colony with dreepy as the worker, drakloak as the majors/supermajors and dragapault as the queens... Thank you for once again influencing my headcannon

In Garganacl’s case, I like to think about it as a sort of moth. It’s middle stage is hyper carnivorous, drying up and consuming as much prey as possible, and when it evolves it lacks the ability or need to gather energy any further, utilising the gathered energy as a resource until it runs out and the Garganacl passes.

I feel like there’s no strictly carnivorous Pokemon, since they can all consume berries or leftovers (which appears to be an apple) and all gain the same effects (except for the original Applin family, which we can assume are using their power to make the berry better, not that they’re more suited to eating fruits) though I suppose you could also point out that, with this logic, no Pokemon is strictly herbivorous, since you can make meat-based sandwiches/curry in the recent games and all Pokemon will eat them for the same effect as well

The thing about Lokix is that I think it might actually be predatory as well as omnivorous, similar to predatory Katidids and Crickets. This is primarily due to certain types of moves that it has but also because of its dark typing, which suggest it may be similar to the Predatory species we see in the real world

I think it's interesting to note that the game states that the Tera Crystals were the only thing keeping the AI Professor alive, implying the crystals themselves emit some sort of life energy. Not just that but with the release of the DLC we also have information of a Pokémon living in the underdepths with Terapagos, having its body be covered in these same crystals and being a Pokémon that lives for millions of years. With all that in mind, I think you could make a case for the crystals themselves to be the producers for the caverns of Area Zero as those are filled with gigantic crystals everywhere Somewhat related, though, is that Glimmora is only commonly found in areas where these crystals are pelntiful (Area Zero and Crystal Pool), with Glimmet Crystals being used to craft the Tera Blast TM and the dex states its body composition is similar to Tera crystals. Glimmet's dex entry also states they absorb nutrients from the caves (likely incorporating these nutrients into its own body to make its petals sturdier). I think rather than filter feeders, Glimmet and Glimmora are the primary consumers to tera crystals. It is likely that its flower-like body shape is only meant as camouflage while it digs its face into the cave walls to absorb their nutrients

Can you please provide me with the image of the web with high quality please for my exams please

future paradoxes probably just have infinite energy batteries or something lol

Great Tusk could be like a panda. An animal with the body plan of a carnivore but for whatever reason resorts to being an herbivore. A Pokémon before transitioning into a true herbivore after millions of years of evolution aka Donphan.

Loved your dive into the Dreepy line! And I appreciate that you at least entertained the idea of Paradox Future Pokémon needing to eat. So, a question that's been on my mind for years when discussing eating Pokémon with friends, I have to ask you: Could a human eat a Fire-type Pokémon? My argument was that we couldn't, because they likely have bacteria within their bodies that can't be cooked off because used to high temperatures.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I think it really depends on the fire type. Something like a Numel? Absolutely - it seems like a fairly regular mammal-like Pokémon that has adapted to fire attacks. But A Pokémon like Heatran that actively lives in magma, maybe not

Nice video!

Exceptional video, I think about this whenever I play a new Pokemon, seeing someone who knows what they're talking about cover it is a dream. Remember me when you're famous, etc etc.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! I'll dedicate an award acceptance speech in your honor lol

Something I'd like to see for this kind of channel is a close look at the Sneasel line, specifically the ones in Sinnoh/Hisui, and why the Hisuian ones used to be dominant there before seemingly getting displaced by Johtonian ones.

Hi, Garganacl trainer here. Saltitan, my Garganacl, has a tendency to consume both minerals and, ironically, ungulates like Girafarig and Numel. I suspect it stems from an ambush tactic used when he was a Naclstack, where these kinds of Pokémon would seek sodium deposits out. It's...a hassle. But, he's my hassle

Would Paradox Pokemon be invasive species?

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I was initially going to answer yes, but it gets a little complicated with the ancient paradox forms. If they are from an alternative universe then I would say they would be invasive. But if they are from THIS universe I can confidently answer maybe. Like, modern Pokémon would have evolved alongside them but the ancient forms obviously went extinct a while ago so I think you could argue either way.

@Commander_Appo

6 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@geekecology I’d say they are invasive definitively. Not only are the ancient ones millions, if not billions of years old (meaning they sure as hell do not have any natural predators unless we stretch to consider Drakloak), but their high BSTs would likely allow them to easily subdue any prey or competition, potentially even if they have the type disadvantage. The only hope for Area Zero as an ecosystem would either be rapid adaptation by getting as strong as possible asap (which could explain the lack of a lot of stage 1 Pokémon) or that maybe the past paradox Pokémon may prefer to hunt each other since they potentially already know how to. As for the future ones, I’d argue that they probably don’t eat seeing as how they seem to be robots. I think it’s more likely they either run off of some kind of power source like a nuclear reactor or, for something like Iron Hands and Moth, solar power. Those massive hands and Moth’s panels could be very helpful at collecting sunlight and could also explain why they are found at the top of Area Zero. I have put too much thought into this. Maybe I should write a fake paper on this for my English comp class since I’m studying to become an evolutionary biologist lol

@DJ-0

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely, it's a plot point of the game AI Sada/Turo ask you to beat them to stop the time machine because of the damage Paradox Pokemon would do to the ecosystem

I adore speculative biology + ecology So glad this was recommended to me

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

Hey I'm glad too!

You should do a food web on the Wild Area from Pokémon Sword and Shield next

At first I misread the title as "Do we need to eat Paradox Pokémon?" and then I started brainstorming about how I can cook a Flutter Mane.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I don't just want to, we NEED TO

I wouldn't have bothered with the Violet Paradoxes 😅 they seem more like tools designed to look like animals, than actual animals 🤔 like animatronics or drones

i'd love to see this for the blueberry terrariums, chansey being a Savanna grasslands Pokemon still messes with my head

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I fell asleep to this video playing in the background and had a dream about the Pokémon foodchain 😅

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if that's stressful or rad

YES!!!!! BIO NERDS RISE UP!!!!!! instant sub, ive been NEEDING a channel that covers fantasy ecology, i think its such a cool topic!

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

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To be honest, I don't really think the way Dreepy hunts on its own matters too much. Dreepy are shown to be highly dependent on their evolutions, meaning they likely hunt in groups, the Dreepy may assist in a hunt, but on their own they probably wouldn't be doing too much.

Thank you, I now know how to correctly feed flutter mane

I've always found things like this to be interesting. Sure it's trying to make sense out of something that's nonsensical, but it's interesting all the same and arguably important for both world building and practical applications. I mean is trying to figure out the diet of a Pokémon that more far-fetched than trying to figure out what a newly discovered dinosaur may have ate? As for the world building aspect it just makes sense to have some, well, sense to it. So you have this world brimming with really cool dragons. How does that world and those who live in it function? How does life find a way?

I wish they made the pokemon ecology work and show pokemon hunting and fighting since we can see them moving around now

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

They're getting close! We have Cramorant trying to eat a few things, and a couple nods to predator/prey stuff in Pokémon Snap!

I’m surprised their wasn’t a discussion on the paradox Pokémon being invasive species. Plus they can’t breed

Idk I think we think of rocks as not having calories bc we don’t have anything irl that can digest it But technically anything that has mass has calories no? And if they provided only few calories then the abonance could surely make up for it

@geekecology

Ай бұрын

I go back and forth on this a lot. If you break the chemical bonds that make up a rock, that would release energy. Theoretically something could evolve a digestion system to be able to take advantage of this.

@kellytibbs3815

Ай бұрын

@@geekecology thanks for the reply! Great videos ! I watched them all 🤣

Paradox Pokémon are great examples of invasive species. They might be out competing the normal Pokémon from the area. They’re also from the past and future so that’s something that might play into it

I feed Garganacle sandwhiches, berries, apples, soda, ice cream and cupcakes

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I'll include it into the research notes

Note that nearly all Pokemon are omnivores, being capable of eating both plant and meat materials. And I say almost as some are merely incapable of eating meat, all of them can eat berries.

@Unifoseum

6 ай бұрын

I know technically any animal can just eat whatever it wants even if it’s not healthy for them but you know what I mean right

where can i find the music from the video?

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I use Artlist for most of my music

I was always confused on why the future Pokémon needed to eat. Their machines

Make a video about regional forms!

Could you do this for Ultra Space?

Damn this is the most impressive foodweb yet personally i wouldn't bother fitting the paradox pokemon in, not only are half of them robots but i don't think any of them are entirely "natural", they are paradoxes after all The floette idea is pretty interesting (though I still have no idea why it isn't grass type)

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I wasn't going to include the paradox Pokémon initially but I knew if I excluded them people would be sad lol

@nobblkpraetorian5623

6 ай бұрын

@@geekecology First time watching your videos, instant sub. Please do the Blueberry Terrarium next, I think each biome deserves its own video.

You should do the area where slyveon and espeon are

Im not convinced violet paradoxes eat food

I'm impressed on how you fit in the paradox pokemon. I think the Violet ones would be more energy consumers from their biomechanical forms and strange energy flows from the future. But where would Koraidon and Miraidon fit in? I think Koraidon would definitely be the king of Area Zero's daylit lands. While Miraidon would be King of the energy consumers as well as the Underground.

@geekecology

22 күн бұрын

@@PirvateerKurei Both Koraidon and Miraidon seem like cursorial predators - those able to move around and catch prey at high speeds - probably similar to Cyclizar but maybe selecting larger targets. They might even be omnivorous with their love of sandwiches lol

@PirvateerKurei

22 күн бұрын

@@geekecology a fair point! Do you think they would be one diurnal and nocturnal? I think Miraidon would be the nocturnal one since Koraidon has the Protosynthesis ability and could be more reliant on sunlight for movement.

@geekecology

21 күн бұрын

@@PirvateerKurei That is certainly possible! Bioluminescence (like the like Miraidon generates) is more effective at night or other dark environments!

Raichu is a savage hunter, the howling grasshopper mouse! 😂

THIS IS WHAT I LIVE FOR!

This allows them to have thier eggs up in the trees and keep egg eating pretitors away: ft sneasel

I wonder can you a tundra/snowy biome theme Pokémon food chain.

It was fun being educated by a Raging Bolt

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

Brutal comment. I enjoyed it.

@_RedRightHand_

6 ай бұрын

I mean, I see him as Walmart Kyle Hill.

Wouldn’t raichu be to big and strong for a solitary hunter like espeon?

As Iron Jugulis I can confirm Great Tusk is tasty ( only watched the Thumbnail )

Abilities all paradoxes have seam to imply Past forms get energy from the sun and futures run on electricity, so they aren't eating other pokemon

12:45 "an organism that is made of several milions of microscopic organisms that have organized themselves to form a body and even have specialized cells to form a body" Me: so wait wait wait, bro are you saying that Ghost types are Siphonophores? "Think a magical spooky version of a sea anemone or a Portuguese Man O War" YOOOOOOOO SIPHONOPHORIC GHOSTS!?!?!

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

SIPHONOPHORIC GHOSTS

Most of the smaller pokemon probibly climbed trees like chansy

I just assume the future paradox Pokémon dissect and use what they need from other Pokémon and Past paradox pokemon eat Pokémon whole

“Hippo po tás” 💀

Paradox past water type dragapult is right there for the making Along with paradaox Magikarp and Genesect

I think the “past” paradox pokemon all have some level of photosynthesis due to their abilities activating in the sun light which gives energy to them in the form of a stat boost, even if it is not there primary source of energy, the “future” paradox pokemon gain power clearly from surrounding electromagnetic fluxes. koraiadon and miraiadon are probably considered deities to the paradox life forms because not only do they also partially feed on the same, but their abilities allow them to create sunlight/electromagnetic fluxes respectively from nothing.

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

I was really expecting to get some kind of hint towards why they have this sunlight driven ability but they totally dodged it unless I really missed something lol

@mlpfanboy1701

6 ай бұрын

@@geekecologythe sun abilities could have something else powering it other then chlorophyll, I’m thinking orichalcum due to koriadons ability implying the fictional ore does in fact exist in the pokemon world, or at least it did. This is of course assuming the past and future paradox pokemon are in fact past and future versions that did/will exist, and not creatures willed into existence by imagination and terra energy. If that part is true then all there ecology goes out the window.

What if the gananical (salt Pokémon) line are exclusively scavengers/ go for dead Pokémon

Maybe great tusk eats tree the fighting type implies storage of energy and i can deffently see it useing those tusk and the rigges to make tree carrying easy and as a plus it has a lot of amazing defensive so if it ever needed to it could eat meat as a self-defense mechanism and that's how it gets its protein along with anything in the tree

The future forms could all be solar powered... even though the past forms all have the ability which powers them up in sunlight... so maybe all the paradox forms feed on solar energy???

@geekecology

6 ай бұрын

Their ability does make this possibility interesting! But far less fun for a video 😅 if we ever learn more about them I'll make another to turn them all into solar farms lol

Such a tragedy there are so few detritivore Pokemon!

IMO the future paradox pokemon likely don't need to eat like most other mons, (most don't even have a mouth) they likely use some sort of fuel source (probably the sun) like modren machines rather than food, and hunt and kill for sport, rather than necessity

@Commander_Appo

6 ай бұрын

Valiant, Jugulis, and Moth definitely just kill everything. Jugulis also probably “eats” their kills, just going off of vibe

@tonetone37x16

6 ай бұрын

The Future Pokémon definitely eat. Just look at Mirairdon loving sandwiches. They're more so cyborgs, than fully robotic.

@SweetTaleTeller

6 ай бұрын

Ok but I will say that Moth and Jug Jug are very friendly, have never had one get mad at me before.@@Commander_Appo