Don't tighten the bushing bolt until you are sitting at ride hight. You will wear the bushing out prematurely twisting it too much. Never tighten bushing bolts until the suspension is sitting at ride hight. I see so many people skipping that step.

@johnanderson7485

8 ай бұрын

would it be bad to do this process with the vehicle sitting on the ground under weight?

@MG2577

8 ай бұрын

@@johnanderson7485 That's the way to do it. Sitting at ride hight.

@wbwills2

7 ай бұрын

I Dk the answer BUT ..the devil is in the details.that is a fact ,Jackson!

@MG2577

7 ай бұрын

@@wbwills2 ....say what?

Lol I lifted my 4runner 3 inches, she looks pretty cool! This is fantastic advise on this. I had no idea, thank you for the video

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Trying to share what I learn in the school of hard knocks 🙌

@benkoch7593

Ай бұрын

Dude! Follow your channel and bought a 4Runner partly because of your praises for it.

Love the banter between you two brothers. It's always the perfect mix of valuable insight mixed with dry sibling pokes and 'jabbery' at each other. It would be just a compelling to watch you two going back and forth on picking out which socks are best to buy and why. Or better yet, I could see a segment where you two go to the barbershop. You could call it "Haired Down." Thanks for sharing guys.

@aired-downoverland9239

4 ай бұрын

😂 thank you

Great video. Ironically it was when building my bagged minitruck suspension that I learned about the importance of long arms and the angles on everything. All the same basic principals no matter if lifting or lowering.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

You’re spot on Jake. A lot of shops and lift mfrs don’t tell you about geometry correction, bump stop extensions, or the CRITICAL extended break lines. 🙌

I have no plans for lifting my 4runner. That said this is a GREAT video, right to the point, diagrams, slow direct instructions, and light humor. it has it all.

@coopnhtown

Жыл бұрын

I'm watching it and don't even own an offroad vehicle HA I build cars but I really enjoy the content!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Aaron

This is very cool of you to do this video!! Thank you, from someone who is looking to eventually lift their 4 runner safely!!

@aired-downoverland9239

3 ай бұрын

Very happy you enjoyed it Jason 🙌

That was excellent. I’ve been wondering about this issue ever since I completed my lift.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Drkdss did us all a solid by creating this (No, I’m not sponsored); worth the money

Actually this finally explains why I have some bump steer on my RC crawler. My pan hard rod is almost 45 degree angle. Thanks!.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

No plan to life mine, but I stayed to watch the whole video anyway. Well done, and now I know. Thank you!

@aired-downoverland9239

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking it out 🙌

Really nice job explaining the why’s and the how’s of doing that install. I was also impressed with how you can see the numbers on the torque wrench while still wearing your glasses.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

If I squint I can just make out the torque wrench numbers 😄. Thx for the kind words. 👍🏻

That's an easy way to explain why you see some vehicles distorted to a side or another after the owner lifted up. Tks and cheers from Costa Rica.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

Perfect instructions ! It took me less than an hour. Thank you. It was super helpful to go through the required tools at the beginning.

@aired-downoverland9239

Ай бұрын

Happy it was helpful 🙌

2 weeks later I got it all installed and WOW! I didn’t even realize it drove so iffy before. It’s a must do in my opinion. Really made the rear end feel tight to the frame of that makes sense. Great video

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Garcia, I totally agree 🙌

@juliuscafe

3 ай бұрын

where i can get this kit? what the name?

@Garcias_garage724

3 ай бұрын

@juliuscafe it's a panhard correction kit they have bolt on or weld on options. I can't remember where i got mine but I went with weld on

Great video. I suspect a lot of folks miss important steps like this when lifting their 4runners.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

They sure do!

@s.wvazim6517

11 ай бұрын

​@@aired-downoverland9239hi there were did you get your correction brackets from

@MatchEmUp_Outdoors

5 ай бұрын

​@@aired-downoverland9239 question, I have not done the suspension on my 1992 toyota 4runner, but looking at it, the lift has a drop bracket for the pan hard bar on the right side instead of a bracket raising it up on the left side, would this be incorrectly done then? Also my shocks are behind the springs are these done wrong as well, because I see yours are in front of your springs?

Great video! There is a very noticeable difference in vehicle stability after doing a panhard correction. I saw a rig with a broken panhard bar once and it was like watching a cartoon car. The caboose of that rig was like a slinky ha ha! The white paint was a good pro tip!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thanks OPNW, great rig BTW

@TrailTape

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 I find the lack of brotherly-snark in this comment thread disgusting.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@TrailTape I AGREE! He’s acting all business like; he’s being a turd blossom. In fact he edited this video and took out all my slams. Did you notice it’s his rig we’re working on 😄

@OverlandPNW

Жыл бұрын

@@TrailTape Best comment ever! I laughed out loud!

@evil_twit

11 ай бұрын

My 4Runner never had a panhard. Probably best to leave it of instead of at a weird angle. 😊 II also removed the front stabilizer cause it was falling off. Drives like always.

Great call, thanks. Ordered the fix. Installing asap.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

It’s a super easy install. Don’t forget to double torque. 👍🏻👍🏻

Bumpsteer, roll steer and wheel hop are all worse with solid axles compared to independent suspension. These are among the dozens of things that independent suspension helps to correct. The other thing about that panhard bar not being level is that your axle is moved to the right and will no longer be centered under your vehicle. The panhard rod helps keep it centered but it does move through an arc .

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The most unsettling bumpsteer is the one that hits at 75 mph on the freeway 😳. It’s an eye opener.

Bro, Love the Props and penmanship. Extremely Educational.

@aired-downoverland9239

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! It’s just me trying to trying to help the off-roading community 🙌

@mikew7218

12 күн бұрын

He didn't mention you'll need a stall lift for us old farts 😂

2023 TRD ORP with KDSS. Mine handles great, very little off road so far with 1200 miles but a marked improvement over my 2016 SR5 Premium. I'll keep the OEM suspension . Thanks for your overview.

@aired-downoverland9239

6 ай бұрын

Congrats on the 2023 🙌

I installed this on my lifted GX470 and wow, what a significant difference it makes!

@aired-downoverland9239

4 ай бұрын

Awesome, love to hear others having the save positive experience I had 🙌

very nice of you to share. I have a 2004 that we bout with a 2" lift already on it. Ill check it out. Thanks for the help. God bless to you and your family my friend.

I installed some bigger OME springs in the rear on my '97 4runner and always wondered why my rear end felt wonky. Looking into lifting my 5th gen and wont make the same mistake. Thanks for the insight!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Life is filled with, “I wish I knew that before I…” 😄🙌

Bought a 3rd gen 4runner that had been lifted by previous owner.... I noticed the rear shimmy right away, added a Sonoran Steel adjustable panhard and it made a huge difference.

@aired-downoverland9239

3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome. Keep in mind an adjustable panhard, like yours and mine, will help center the axle but won’t correct the geometry issues caused by a panhard with an angle between the axle and frame. 👍🏻👍🏻

Great Job Sir!! Thanks For Caring And Sharing!! 🙂🙂🙂

PCKs have been around forever. Most people have no idea this is even an issue and don't do it because you have to weld it in. DRKDSS makes fabulous engineered components. This bolt-in kit is a no brainer.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

SPOT ON BBP! 🙌

@christophersmith9963

Жыл бұрын

Just wish we had a bolt on PCK for 3rd gen 4runners. Only one I've found is a weld on and I don't weld (yet).

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@christophersmith9963 Yeah, I hear ya. You should send an email to drkdss.com and see if he’s working on one.

@BigBluePile

Жыл бұрын

@@christophersmith9963 one day maybe, unfortunately, it's not just a signal unit bolt on design since both ends of the panhard have to be moved.

@taylorasbell7074

Жыл бұрын

Where can I find this exact kit?

Going to look into this, I have an 02 3rd gen 4runner with a 2.5 lift and my VSC and VSC Trac off light now on. I'll be checking my abs wires and sensors too

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

I think that’s the right approach, the wires and sensors are small. Hope you find the culprit. 🙌

Learn something new everyday. Thanks for the video

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Me too 👍🏻👍🏻

I can absolutely vouch for this, once I got my PCK it was like night and day difference, all the sudden it handles like it’s on rails again

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for dropping the comment Seattle808, and very happy to hear your experience matches my own. 🙌

@rob4f258

11 ай бұрын

Hey, great video! Definitely useful information. Where did you buy the panhard correction bracket? Wasn't able to find that exact on online. Please help 😅

Scared me brother, literally purchased my suspension kit last night before seeing this video 😂 but I’ve got the pan hard correction kit added to the order, thanks for the awesome info!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Just trying to help the awesome off-roading community 🙌

Hi. Thanks for the video. You definitely taught me something new. 👍

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Happy it helped 🙌

I have a 3rd gen 02 4 runner that's lifted 2.3 inches in front and 2 inches in back. Never looked at this before but haven't had issues. I did however change the front bushings on sway bar/steering rack and man steering is awesome tight and responsive.

@ddemier

Жыл бұрын

What exact suspenion lift did you get? I have a 2002 Toyota 4runner 2wd that I want to lift. Seems all the lifts are 3inch lift.

@exceleratorjoshua

Жыл бұрын

Bilstein 5100 both front and back. Front is adjustable height. You could actually go 2.5 adjustable height in front and 2 inch back. I have medium duty springs in the back old man EMU the back never really sags even when loaded.

Sweet thx! I need to do mine, i can definitely feel a shimmy if i go over a sharp dip in the street. 👍 Ordered

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

You’ll notice an immediate difference, and I personally love an easy install. 🙌

@--RSL--

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 man you weren’t kidding. I noticed immediately, just installed it. Before the correction kit the steering felt SO light and I noticed that after the 3in lift but didn’t think anything of it until i hit that first dip and the steering went bonkers. This makes it feel factory again for sure. Money well spent.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@--RSL-- OUTSTANDING! I love hearing that. 🙌

This was a very informative video…I just bought a 4ROR a few weeks ago and am looking to upgrade suspension and tires and would have overlooked this important step, so thank you!

@aired-downoverland9239

9 ай бұрын

Glad it helped 🙌

Just ordered. Man I’ve needed this for a while now. Can’t wait to get it installed.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@davidgodfrey7560

Жыл бұрын

Where’d you order the kit from?

@christopherian1982

Ай бұрын

What brand did you go with?

Thanks for the informative video!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Happy to help

Great video and a very overlooked fix. PCKs should be standard with lift kits in my opinion. I do question if the PCK should have been torqued with the vehicle in the air though. Shouldn’t it be tightened with the vehicle on the ground at normal ride height so the bushing doesn’t get distorted like you would do for control arms?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Torque on the ground, full load, is always best. I do it in the air because I have a lift and it’s way easier to video…and I hate rolling around on the ground to wrench on my rig. Marking the hardware with a paint pen is standard for me, and I don’t think I’ve ever had something I torque loosen up. That said, you’re still spot on, always best done on the ground.

@drkdss8742

Жыл бұрын

Should be torque on the ground for the main trac bar bolt only if you have oem/ stock style bushing which are designed for oem range of motion as it will deflect. Poly bushings and Heim joints can be torque down any where.

excellent science and data... thank you for sharing ❤️

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Happy to share, and love helping small budding businesses that create innovative items like this.

@OverlandPNW

Жыл бұрын

Excellent camera man as well! Where do you find such talent!

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Жыл бұрын

@@OverlandPNW so true!

"I like air impact tools, they sound cool...fun to use..." This statement alone made me subscribe 😅

@aired-downoverland9239

6 ай бұрын

Haaa, thx 🙏 🙌

Given you lifted your 4runner a year ago, I am assuming you got tired of bump steer??? ;-) Great to see another video from you!!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s been driving me crazy. I bought the weld in bracket almost a year ago, but didn’t like the idea of it. As for the video delay: laptop died, corrupted video files, torn left meniscus…it’s been a rough year 😉

After having installed OME springs and billsteins about 2 years ago, I now find this video 🥲. Great video though. I now know why I always feel like my vehicle feels so weird. Out of the hundreds of videos I watched about aftermarket suspension and coils, I never saw a video talk about this!

@aired-downoverland9239

9 ай бұрын

Dang, I feel your pain; sorry man. Check out their website drkdss.com and get yourself set up. 👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you for the content, love all your videos. Question, who makes this correction kit?

@itr0863

Жыл бұрын

Dr. KDSS makes it.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

You can get it at drkdss.com; the quality is exceptional, he includes grade 8 hardware.

Great video... Slight question though, since that panhard rod has a rotation due to suspension drop and lift is that something that needs to be torqued when on the ground in its neutral position?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Re-torque in the neutral position is always best practice; same goes for suspension, etc.

Good explanation and install guide. It's not every day we get an upload from Aired-Down Overland! ;P Surprised there wasn't an "I told you so" at 8:20.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Lots of I told you so’s 😉. Video production was the result of a dead laptop that corrupted hours of footage, a torn meniscus in my left knee, and a new job. Hoping to stay on track now.

@OverlandPNW

Жыл бұрын

Oh, there was an "I told you so," it was just off camera ha ha!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@OverlandPNW Clever brother 😏

Kept my FJ bone stock. Love it.

@aired-downoverland9239

2 ай бұрын

It should always come down to what your intended use for your vehicle is. A stick rig won’t get where mine will. A more built rig will get further than mine, etc. I think people should start with a plan in mind of what they’ll be doing with their rig.

Interesting vid. Thank you.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 🙌

Thanks a lot for this great advice! Where can I find the hardware for the Pan Hard Correction Kit? I have a 1.5 lift on the rear. Thank you, Bob.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Bob, you can find it on drkdss.com

Great video, great info. Which leads me to a two part question. Do reputable shops that do lifts on 4 Runners perform or recommend this fix? And how does a lift as well as this fix effect a factory warranty? Thank you advance sir

@drkdss8742

Жыл бұрын

Does not affect warranty at all. Most shops will recommend it if they know what they are doing.

I love the admission: "I like the air impact wrenches. They sound cool and they're fun to use." TRUE! haha

@aired-downoverland9239

6 ай бұрын

RIGHT?! I’ve always loved them and think I always will, even though modern battery tools kick butt 🙌

Excellent !

@aired-downoverland9239

7 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙌

"That's what she said.".... so many times. Great video!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

😂 right! 🙌

Thank you for the information. Where does one acquire this bolt-on modification? Would the Toyota dealership use this piece in their suspension kit if getting a 3" lift?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

You can get it from drkdss.com, they’re the only ones that manufacture it.

Good info I dint think they offer a bolt on option 👌🏼

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

I hope the info is helpful; thanks for watching.

Lifted my 97 6" 3bdy 3 supsn. Never knew this. I know it definitely was all over the place!

@aired-downoverland9239

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, they tend to get squirrelly when you lift them. Too bad few of the lift mfrs provide the needed parts to keep geometry and road manners in check.

Very nice video. 😊

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

Easy fix. Dr Kdss has a bolt on correction kit. Works great!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Agree! DRKDSS did a great job on the design and fit/finish of this kit. I’ve had the weld in bracket for a while but glad I never installed it.

@EvolBobby

Жыл бұрын

Where can I find this?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@EvolBobby drkdss.com

Going on 2 weeks with this installed immediately noticed the difference on turns

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! I immediately felt the difference; zero regrets 🙌

Great video! Looking into lifting my 4runner this helps a lot. Where did you get the kit for this job ?

@aired-downoverland9239

9 ай бұрын

I bought it direct from Ironman 4x4

Hi, excellent video, I have a question, what would be the difference between using the bracket to level the panhard versus using an adjustable panhard? Is there any advantage/disadvantage with the adjustable panhard? Somewhere I read that for every inch increase in suspension height, you should increase the length of the panhard 1/16 of an inch. Greetings from Quito - Ecuador.

@aired-downoverland9239

6 ай бұрын

An adjustable panhard can help keep your axle centered as you lift a vehicle, but it will not correct the geometry of the panhard as you lift the rear end. If you have a correction bracket, you shouldn’t need an adjustable panhard because the axle should be sitting in the stock location.

Thanks for this video. Now I can fix my Pan hard bar… what kit did you use and where can I order them. Thanks.

@aired-downoverland9239

9 ай бұрын

I got mine direct from drkdss.com

Thanks for the video, good to know that need to be adjusted as well. Where did you buy the parts? Can you put a link? Thanks

@aired-downoverland9239

Ай бұрын

The manufacturers site is drkdss.com 👍🏻

Thanks for the informative video! I just got a 5th Gen 4Runner and want to get a 2-2.5in leveling kit put on it. In doing this would it create this issue or is this an occurrence when one does a suspension lift? Thanks again!

@aired-downoverland9239

7 ай бұрын

You’ll be fine without it since you’re going with a leveling kit. 👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you 😎

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

You bet 🙌 Adventure on!

Where can I get a non-weld panhard correction kit like you just installed?

Recommendations for if youre doing a weld on kit? Like order of the steps when removing bar?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

I have a weld on bracket but never installed it, so I don’t have real worries experience. In would only disconnect the axle side of the panhard, weld in short sections to avoid heat build up, ensure the ABS line is out of the way, protect other areas by using a welding blanket. 👍🏻

Would you recommend this pan hard/track bar lift with a 1.25 inch rear lift? Pre-load Wescott. Thanks for you video. Very enlightening. I have not experienced any of the issues in turns or dips etc.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

If you’re not feeling any bump or rear steer, then no. With a 1.25” lift, my guess would be your track bar is fairly flat.

@charlesruelas3962

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 Thanks for the response.

Where can I find this bolt on modification for the 3rd gen? I’ve only found the weld on types

good video. just a little fyi, any bushing that has teeth in the sleeve or the sleeve does not rotate freely, that bolt needs to be tightenend down, when the vehical is at rideheight. if not, a certain amount of pre load is applied to the bushing, which can lead to premature tearing of the sleeve from the bushing.

@aired-downoverland9239

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct Zachary

My GX470 has been raised just slightly (2" in the front, 1" in the back) - not sure if that's enough of a difference to be a major culprit in my bump steer issue, but I definitely have it, but this is the first time I've heard anyone make a correlation between the symptom and the panhard bar - very interested in seeing if an angle correction bracket will help. Had thought it was more of an issue in front end suspension geometry (somewhat corrected by more camber in the alignment), but if this helps, I'm in! LOL! Thanks for the video!

@aired-downoverland9239

3 ай бұрын

The easiest way to check is to check your panhard while on level ground. If it sits at an angle, it’s a possible culprit. Based on the comments, this has helped a lot of people get rid of the rear end bump wiggle. 🙌

@mattomlinson8759

3 ай бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 - Thanks! I’d actually done that a while back when I found Dr. KDSS’s solution & it’s not enough of an angle to need his standard bracket - the stubby one should do the trick for me based on his measurement suggestions, but it still may be enough to help. But I don’t have as much rear end wriggle as I do steering wheel wriggling/jostling over bumps.

Great video. Please link to purchase the part please? I am lifting my 4runner in two weeks. I am getting some parts and tools. Thanks

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

You can purchase direct from drkdss.com. Hope your build goes well.

Thanks for the informative video! Is this 4R the KDSS version?

@aired-downoverland9239

3 ай бұрын

Non kdss

I haven't seen the bolt on style kits for the panhard bar extention only ones I have seen are the weld ons but might be different for the 4th gens which are usually the same as the 5th gens hmm might have to see if I can find this kit for mine

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Check drkdss.com to see if they have it. 🙌

@AntonioClaudioMichael

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 appreciate the link very much the website actually says it will work for my 4th gen v8 so going to order one up that helps a ton

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@AntonioClaudioMichael Glad it worked out!

Great video. Thx. How much angle is too much? I have a slight angle in the panhard bar. Not nearly as significant as the drawing. Thoughts?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

If it’s minimal with the vehicle on the ground, and you never feel the rear and move (bump steer), I’d leave it as is. How much lift do you have in the rear?

@drkdss8742

Жыл бұрын

On a level surface with vehicle on the ground on its own weight. Measure from the ground up to the center of the bolt on the frame side. Then do it on the driver-side. If the difference is 1.5-2.5 I would do the shorty. If it’s taller then that then do for the regular height. Under 1.75 you don’t really “ need” it but it’s more like you should want it knowing the axle is alittle pulled over to the passenger side and the geometry is a little off. Some one sitting taller at say 3” or more will really feel the difference vs some one under 1.75”

Just did mine! Got a shiny red one! I have 2" of rear lift and went with the shorty version. You still want a little bit of angle for when you load up your rig with gear so your track bar's not in the negative. Anything over 2" you'll want the regular height version. I have a feeling Dom @DR KDSS will be working overtime trying to keep up with new orders for this awesome product!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Yup, all true. I’m just over 2” most of the time; I’m typically level when fully loaded. Also agree DRKDSS will be working late nights 😄

Did you do this on the 4unner that had the ironman 4x4 foam cell pro video you did couple years ago with the new panhard bar?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Yes, same vehicle

I have a lifted Sequoia and I have to continuously steer left & right every time I got on the freeway. Steering rack was recently replaced so I don't think it is the steering rack but rather the panhard rod since mine is at an angle rather than horizontal.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Well I hope this gives some ideas on a fix. 👍🏻

@wannabecarguy

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you have a wheel under the fender on one side and maybe it's sticking out on the other side?

i sit at 8 inches in the rear on my 2000 and she rides like a dream #hawaiibuilt🔥

Does this go for the gx470 also? Great and very informative video.

@aired-downoverland9239

5 ай бұрын

It goes for any vehicle with a panhard where the rear has been lifted enough to throw off the stick geometry. 🙌

Hi, just want to ask your opinion about levelling kit for the 4runner, can this affect the performance of the truck? TIA.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never researched them, so I can’t really speak to how they effect a 4Runner, sorry

I work at a custom shop and do a lot of alignments on lifted and lowered vehicles. It’s amazing how bad some companies products are in terms of geometry and alignment.

@aired-downoverland9239

3 ай бұрын

Many are out for ax quick sale/buck, and they do it by cutting corners 🙌

Would I also need to do this when installing a westcott designs trd pro lift? It claims to not affect the geometry of the suspension but I just want to make sure

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

I’m not familiar with their lift, so I can’t say for sure. If it pushes the axle away from the frame, you’re changing geometry.

Nice. Where can i get bolt on correction kit like that i mostly seen weld on only.

@aired-downoverland9239

10 ай бұрын

Their site is drkdss.com 👍🏻👍🏻

I did add springs that gave me a mild lift in the rear (3rd gen model). I also swapped to 17" rims on & bigger tires. Do I also need to make this correction? Do you have a link to the correction kit you used?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Jay, the easiest way to tell is just look under the rear while your rig is on flat ground, you want that panhard as close to flat (stock geometry) as possible. Bracket is from drkdss.com 👍🏻

Great info! Is there a height requirement to add this? Like they recommend over 2.5 lift to upgrade the UCA’s. I’f you were doing a minimal lift (1-1.5”) would this be beneficial also?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

I think it would, but you’d use drkdss smaller bracket, or, use the lower mounting hole on the taller bracket.

Can you measure the stalk hole to the aftermarket hole on your bracket from the middle of each bolt please

@aired-downoverland9239

8 ай бұрын

Wish I could, I’m recouping from a motorcycle accident and am currently immobile. I’d suggest reaching out to drkdss.com to see if they have those measurements. 👍🏻

They are currently out of stock. What a bummer! Hope they’re available soon!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

That does suck; I hope you don’t have a long wait.

@jontrotter2331

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 wow! They just responded to email saying maybe mid-week! That’s impressive response time!

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@jontrotter2331 That’s unexpectedly great service; you don’t see that often these days

Is there a certain amount of tolerance? As in anything 3+ inch lift would be highly recommended? I have a 1.75 inch front strut setting 1.5 springs and 1.5 shocks rear.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

A 2” in the rear is where people typically start feeling things move unnaturally, but it also depends on the weight you’re carrying in the rear. Just take a look at your panhard when the vehicle is sitting on a flat surface to see how flat, or not flat, your panhard is sitting.

So for a city drive and from time to time towing, do you recommend this correction? Stock suspension.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

If your 4Runner has no lift in the rear, it would not be needed.

Unless you go overboard, it's OK to lift it. I have two - 2004 with 302,000 mi and 2018 with 35,000 mi. Both were lifted 2.5" at birth. The older one had eventually (@250K) UCA's replaced to correct caster but even before that, it handled perfectly, tires did not wear faster than they should've... The other one (stock except lift) has had no issues either.

@aired-downoverland9239

11 ай бұрын

Did you actually watch the video? Mine is lifted too, the video is about correcting your your geometry after lifting.

@domenicolombardo3809

7 ай бұрын

Lmfao.. its about the rod

@nofyfb123

7 ай бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 Did you read my post? The point is: it's not necessary to correct anything unless the lift is over 2.5".

I didn't know this. Thank you! Also, does that bracket come in different lengths proportional to how high you lift the vehicle? Are there set increments in heights?

@aired-downoverland9239

9 ай бұрын

Yes, go to drkdss.com and you’ll see the urgent sizes. 🙌

@StraitD2

9 ай бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 Thanks so much!

Hello sorry I might’ve missed it but what kit did you buy or what brand is it? Thank you!

@aired-downoverland9239

2 ай бұрын

The manufacturer’s site is drkdss.com 👍🏻

Just bought a used 4runner sr5 with a lift and fox suspension kit. suggest taking it to toyota mechanic to check if it was all done correctly and if im in good shape or any mechanic would be able to inspect?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Never a bad idea on a vehicle you haven’t built yourself David. The piece of mind is likely worth the cost.

Bump steers occur when the drag link from the steering box (to the tie rod) and pan hard rod or AKA track bar are not parallel in the front of the vehicle. Typically applies to straight axle vehicle that steering knuckles are tied together via tie rods. Bump "steer" is not of rear suspension geometry as it has little to do with steering components. Panhard rod is to keep the axle centered under the frame as the suspension cycles. These adapters help restore the arc of the suspension cycle post lift.

@AllTerrainFamily

Жыл бұрын

Came here to say this.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

It’s ok, some people prefer to call it “Rear steer” though the outcome is exactly the same, you flex by hitting a “bump” and it causes the rear to steer. Fact is I’m just trying to share something that worked for me.

@AllTerrainFamily

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 I don't know about that. Big the bigger issue is roll center rising as a result of the track bar not being straight. That will have an effect on cornering at speed. And that's going to be noticeable. I personally never felt bump steer in my lifted 4 runner on or off road.

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

If you prefer the words “rear steer”, no worries. The end result is similar, a bump (compression) causing the front or rear to steer. All good 👍🏻

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@AllTerrainFamily I’m all for differing opinions, everyone has to make up their own mind in the end. The fact is this, for me and many others, we are feeling rear steer, and have eliminated it with a panhard correction. If you’re not feeling it, awesome, that’s one less modification you need to invest in. 👍🏻

Is there a specific lift height inorder to install this fix and does this only apply to KDSS fitted trucks or anytime you lift the 4Runner? Where do we buy the kit from. Thanks.

@aired-downoverland9239

5 ай бұрын

You can get all the details on the mfr’s site: drkdss.com 👍🏻

Is that toytec bumstop 2 or 3 inch?Will it hit the frame when off roading or flexing?

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s 2” but I’d check their website. The stock rubber bumpstop mount to the Toytec extension, so only rubber is hitting the axle, nothing harsh.

Yup I got everything set on my 3rd gen and I will never lift it due to too much issues itsngood enough to get u thru places

Great video! Where can I buy this for my 99 4runner. It will have a 2.5 lift and KO 2 tires on it. Thx

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Kevin. Check out drkdss.com for these brackets. I’m not sponsored, just sharing his great design. Enjoy the build process, it’s half the fun 🙌

@kevinriese2167

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 thanks for your time sir.

Great vid... where can we find this bracket ?

@aired-downoverland9239

6 ай бұрын

Thx! You can buy direct from the mfr at drkdss.com 🙌

where can one buy this panhard rod extension?

Where can I get the raising bracket? Thank you having issues now on my 96 4Runner it has a 3-inch lift that was put on it but!it's all over the road!!? where do find that elevated bracket? Thank you

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

You can find it at drkdss.com

@markeverson5849

Жыл бұрын

@@aired-downoverland9239 thank you I bet there's also examples of homemade brackets:-) realistically most guys that lift a Toyota or Jeep aren't going to spend that money and work and then put it back down to stock again probably ever? There are exceptions but if that is the case I could weld a piece of metal coming up off the axle from the other bracket already on the rear axle. if I didn't know where to find one of these kits , anyways thanks

@aired-downoverland9239

Жыл бұрын

@@markeverson5849 There is a weld on bracket available, check out: eimkeith.com/buystuff/pck/

This does fix your geometry for the most part but it would be advised to get an adjustable trac bar and measuring frame to outside tire to get it 100% centered

@aired-downoverland9239

4 ай бұрын

100% agree. You’ll note I have an adjustable trac bar as well, I just didn’t cover that in this video. 🙌