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@gnomeexclusive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tutorials! @TolarianCommunityCollege

@vampirica11

Жыл бұрын

You're saying to join this WhatNot stream on Friday, but the video is posted on Saturday :]

@DavieR2D2

Жыл бұрын

@@vampirica11next week Friday

@LeonardoCornelioJr

Жыл бұрын

Just a quick heads-up: The promo for Shuffle Up and Play at the end of the video doesn't have sound. Might need to check that out.

@TolarianCommunityCollege

Жыл бұрын

You realize there another Friday after yesterday?

I miss the days where i could just buy 2 bundles, a box and be happy till the next set.

@JaySay

Жыл бұрын

And it wouldn't cost you near $400 for it. Not even for near $300! It doesn't even feel like it was that long ago when I decided that I would be able to afford a box *and* a bundle (gift/special edition if there was one) with each new set, and be happy with it, rather than just complacent with it... Dominaria, Brother's War, and even Phyrexia was okay _enough_ for me to do that. I'm just gonna wait until near the end of the year and see how prices are. I don't need a serialized card, I just want affordability so I can have a normal amount of cards for my collection...

@Deddyroze

Жыл бұрын

Preach!

@Morrodin182

Жыл бұрын

I miss the days when bundles were called fat packs, contained more boosters and a booklet about the set. You know back when you had only one kind of booster and a special version meant foil. During those days you also still had core sets and blocks of 3 sets. Ah well at least I got to see the 1/1 one ring at least 4 times by now :P

@hallaloth3112

Жыл бұрын

@@Morrodin182 The booklet and card checklist was amazing as new player. I. . .also miss the basic deck boxes that came with them. . .I feel since they were taken out Magic should include basic sleeves. The basic deck boxes were great as a new player not ready/able to invest in a good deck box/sleeves. . and personally, not even random jank 60 card homebrewed deck NEEDs sleeves.

@randombearfacts2224

Жыл бұрын

They never want you happy, they want you addicted and experiencing max level of fomo depression so you keep spending money and never think about where it is going, even if you maybe don't have the funds to pay your basic expenses.

The "1/1" Ring is going to be just like the McDonalds Boardwalk Monopoly piece, a friend of the CEO already owns it.

@Toasty373

Жыл бұрын

Post Malone

@MichaelQ-iv7pt

Жыл бұрын

Huh, hey did we leave this collector booster locked in my desk for a reason. Huh, I guess I will just keep it. That one of one ring is technically in circulation right ;)

@WeedgokuBonerhitler

Жыл бұрын

This has been my guess since day one, basically. If it doesn't get opened by a top name streamer I am going to be absolutely shocked.

@MichaelQ-iv7pt

Жыл бұрын

@@WeedgokuBonerhitler Normally in these types of contest, someone who doesn't even know the value of the prize gets it. But since Collector Boosters are so much, I doubt that will happen here.

@paochicken

Жыл бұрын

They wont put it into circulation right now. Itll kill the value of the whole set. Its stored away safely while every whale is hunting for it😂😂

Actually this whole situation with the Lotr set is the biggest flavour win! We have a dark lord (Hasbro) who created a bunch of rings (cards) promising beauty, status and power. “But they were, all of them deceived, for another Ring was made.(…) A master Ring, to control all”. And into this Ring Hasbro poured its greed and its will to dominate all wallets. “One Ring to rule them all.” We are living the Lotr story as the humans. This way, the ring temptation mechanic is actually on point - from our viewpoint, there is no downside to using the ring. The downside of “being tempted by the ring” is not in game but instead in our own behaviour as players/collectors. We are all being tempted by Hasbro and its 1 of 1 Ring card. And yes, in this scenario the Middle-Earth enterprises is our Isildur, they should have known better! Tolkien’s work is as relevant as ever, showing us, now in person, what greed and thirst of power can do to people. 😉

@raiHo15

Жыл бұрын

Awesome comment

@Kaizy

Жыл бұрын

Great analogy, spot on!

@jakeburbridge6031

Жыл бұрын

Why’d you waste your time typing this for a couple of likes?

@tunaspower

Жыл бұрын

@@jakeburbridge6031 Just sharing a fun idea, likes aren’t the only reason to do something 😉

@SarumanTheStupid

Жыл бұрын

​@@jakeburbridge6031lol and now here I am wasting my time noting how you also wasted your time berating someone for a fun post. The circle of life. 🪱

The amount of money you have saved me over the years with your videos is amazing. Thanks for everything you do Prof!

As a yugioh player getting into Magic over the last couple of months, the one thing I’ve noticed is it seems like wizards loves to be really aggressive and predatory with how they package label and deliver the product to the consumers. The fact that we need full on video guides to tell us which product version has which cards in it is horrible way to run a business well unless you’re trying to guarantee profits over everything so I guess hasbro is killing it then 😂

@TheChadarad

Жыл бұрын

You’ve still got time, get the hell out and go back to yugioh. I would never recommend someone get into magic now

@Enforcedformula

Жыл бұрын

@@TheChadarad lol, you’re probably right, I’ve been mostly just playing commander and trying to build some cheap and fun decks. I will say the Lord of the rings sealed product did get me and I probably won’t buy any more magic sealed because I felt like shit after. Lol

@lost_pantheon

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The 15 different LOTR products is bamboozling to me, I have no idea what the hell to even touch.

@notme222

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't always this way. For many years they prided themselves on clarity. Only in the last like 3 years have they decided it's better to confuse players. (Although it feels like longer because they do it so much now.)

@digitalstatictv

Жыл бұрын

For real dude. And coming from the land of short prints, random reprints, meaningless side sets, and "in a few months"... for us to be frustrated with a card game is wild.

More weirdness to note: Any cards in extended art that would potentially come in foil are only available in the collector booster sample packs that come with commander precons. They aren't in collector booster packs. At all. Zero. Nada. None. Because of this, most of the EA foil prices are extravagantly high.

@TolarianCommunityCollege

Жыл бұрын

It grows more and more difficult to keep track of every day, and I think that is by design: can't warn people not to buy something if you can't understand what any of it even is.

@GalatheonIL52NEP

Жыл бұрын

Because of this there are also many private sellers advertising their cards as “box toppers” when they are actually just the regular foil versions of those cards. It’s a world of confusion right now for both the seller and the consumer. I feel very strongly that a lot of people are going to be scammed through this set and I only hope that people do their research/watch videos like this to make themselves aware of a cards “true value” and to triple check the products currently available to them.

@MirrorAshes

Жыл бұрын

This needs more attention. It’s absolutely insane

@adambrough9380

Жыл бұрын

What does this mean in regards to box toppers which are EA foil, can those be pulled in collector boosters?

@seraph_six

Жыл бұрын

@@adambrough9380 box toppers are a different borderless art product.

I like the idea of scene sets. I might pick them up when the actual ring gets found and the prices of the cards drop by 99%

@PieMan061

Жыл бұрын

Most cards are already below $1. Only a few are semi expensive right now, which is why I’m just buying singles. I don’t expect the bulk of cards, especially the chase cards, to crash that much further once the one ring is found. If anything, they may go up as people will be opening product less.

@mstieler8480

Жыл бұрын

For me it will depend on what each Scene set has for those 6 cards. I doubt they're going to have anything like The One Ring that's still sitting at $35 for the Bundle version, but if there's a similar distribution (at least one Mythic & one Rare) it's possible the Scene Set versions may be worth more than the standard ones.

@themanasquirrel

Жыл бұрын

​They're printing so fast that unless these cards find a home in a power deck, they'll be dirt cheap in 1-2 months (.25 range). I got the commander decks early because I knew they would skyrocket, but I'm done buying any sealed product. Singles for me too!

@daviddiazv17

Жыл бұрын

I doubt card prices will go down, mostly because cards that are expensive are so because they're good, it won't have anything to do with the one ring being found or not. Booster packs are what may go down in price

well for those who are here from the future: it was found in Canada and graded as the real deal by PSA grading, it was found in the middle of June in a Collector Booster and not the bundle, and yes the prices of unopened boxes are dropping

I'm having a hard time thinking MTG isn't gambling when they have lotto cards worth more than most lotto wins.

@donniebankoebarkie7916

Жыл бұрын

at leas there theres a ton of consolation prizes

@Earthboundmike

Жыл бұрын

Speaking as someone who could very, very easily have issues with gambling and likely was trained by MTG and pokemon in this regard, that doesn't really make it better.

@doom1153

Жыл бұрын

@@donniebankoebarkie7916 Not sure any other cards will sell for the £200-£300+ you might be spending for some of these collector boxes though.

@C0mmanderX

Жыл бұрын

so technically mtg doesnt choose the price of the cards opn the open market or which ones become popular. they also dont sell the booster boxes for the marked up prices. distributors and game stores do. so theyre "innocent" (i cant put enough quotes around that word so i wont even try)

@FiresplitterSpeedrun

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, at this point I feel like MtG is trying to get away from being taxed as a gambling revenue lottery by printing their own "money". 2 mil for a card that costs them less than a dollar to make is ridiculous. In reality it has the same rarity as any one original painting from any artist ever. This is almost as bad as NFTs were.

It's the Willy Wonka golden ticket scandal, but IRL. That thing really does need to find a fireplace to be tossed into.

@Drako9823

Жыл бұрын

Based seeing you here

@Beowulfgang_Amadeus

Жыл бұрын

Even Willy Wonka made 5 golden tickets.

@Soraking007

Жыл бұрын

I seriously hope whoever does find it confirms the legitimacy of it with wotc then throws that fucker into a fireplace and films it sending it to wotc throwing a middle finger

@andrenet77

Жыл бұрын

A fireplace won't be enough. It has to be a volcano. Just saying.

@BamaNick

Жыл бұрын

@@andrenet77not just any Volcano, but Mount Doom

Im actually pretty excited to download whatnot and watch your stream, Professor. You've always provided A++ content and humor. You've always looked out for the average MtG consumer. One of, if not, the best MtG KZread channels out there

I actually enjoy the Jumpstart packs not for their worth but they are fun to play…it’s like the old Welcome decks you get for free when you get started

@arianabdolahy8276

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I doubted if I should attend the Jumpstart event with a friend of mine because the Professor said we shouldn't buy them, but your comment saved it. If it is fun to play, that's all it needs to be! Thanks!

I'm certain LOTR will be the best selling magic set of all time, which will only change the direction of product design moving forward. Secret Lair had it's own ethical issues, but this is the first time I've felt that Magic isn't a place for me anymore. Not because of expense, I have to money to play... but I feel beyond icky about how the company views and treats their consumers.

@Alessandro-mg9oh

Жыл бұрын

everyone's complaining yet everyone's buying the products

@GalatheonIL52NEP

Жыл бұрын

@@Alessandro-mg9ohThis is the real issue. We can complain to no end but so long as the product is being purchased then WOTC is doing exactly as they set out to. I still don’t think the 30th anniversary scandal or the Pinkerton’s has really had any negative effect on them.

@StJimmy765

Жыл бұрын

@@Alessandro-mg9oh Because at it’s core, the game is a lot of fun. I love the game but it’s unfortunate that it’s owned by Hasbro.

@LeviClay

Жыл бұрын

@@Alessandro-mg9oh yeah? I’m complaining and I’m not buying product. Why do you think I’m buying product?

@hallaloth3112

Жыл бұрын

As a diehard LotR fan. . .the set honestly felt lacking to me. . .couple that with deliberately confusing making. . .yeah, my and my husband already decided to skip this set. There MIGHT be a single or two down the line, but we almost never buy singles so, it's not likely.

I feel like Wizards is potentially going to land itself in legal troubles because of the purposefully convoluted way they are handling this set in order to drive sales.

@divacroft1034

Жыл бұрын

people who are into lotr buy lotr booster packs not mtg packs...

@lz9275

Жыл бұрын

​@@divacroft1034this I want to play now with LOTR decks, but I want to look with what

@kiillabytez

11 ай бұрын

Remember when D&D was owned by TSR, then WOTC bought them and turned it into a million book set that was released once a year? Oh wait..., isn't that what they've done to MTG too?

@munteanucatalin9833

10 ай бұрын

They are already under investigation in the E.U. for unloyal practices.

@hyp3rsqu1d81

15 күн бұрын

​@kiillabytez back when wizards of the coast got the rights to DnD, TSR had gone bankrupt. Back then wizards was also still just a company run by a bunch of nerds who shared a passion for tabletop games. It's unfortunate however that wizards of the coast is now a shell of its former self.

I really love that you are the biggest MTG channel on KZread, because that means that this important message is reaching the most people possible

I will say that the commander decks have a disclaimer at the bottom of the box saying that this product does not contain the one of one ring. So possibly that same disclaimer is on the bottom of any other bundles, boxes, or the fold on packs.

@CyniSchism96

Жыл бұрын

Ah yeah, the bottom. Certainly the first place i look for package content lists and labels.

imagine waking up from a 10 year coma and trying to get back into MTG

@eegles

Жыл бұрын

I stopped playing around 2000. Mid-2010s, the Secret Lairs somehow brought the game back to my attention. Universes Beyond convinced me to sell off my cards of any value.

@josephrion3514

Жыл бұрын

Except for the coma I did. I left in 2001 or 2002 while seventh was out but not eight edition. and returned in 2014 for Khans and left in hour of devastation to return in adventures in the forgotten realms. I can't imagine going from Khans to lotr. Jesus.

@devforfun5618

Жыл бұрын

and discovering your parents threw your old cards in the trash

@ghostemane85

Жыл бұрын

@@devforfun5618 Ha funny.... That really happened 2 me

@zephyrkhambatta

Жыл бұрын

Then you’re imagining my life since last September. Lol. And make that 20 years. Happy to say my first event back was the LOTR prerelease and I hit 4 different stores that weekend and actually won 2 out of 3 rounds at my last store.

Very helpful. And as always, presented in a fun and entertaining manner. Thank you for all you do for the Magic community. Big love professor!!

Man, I'm happy I preordered a gift bundle at $80 when they were first announced. I did do a pre-release and picked up a set booster box, and between them I got pretty much everything I wanted. Yeah, not every mythic or rare and missing an uncommon or two, but pretty much all I need to put together some cool LotR-themed decks. As a new-to-MTG player it was ridiculously confusing trying to figure out what to buy though.

Love the casual DS9 reference, to one of the best episodes ever.

Thank you for breaking this down, you helped saved me money 😅👍

LTR is a fun set. Prerelease was great, the Commander precons are awesome, one or two cards will see Modern play without breaking the format, some interesting cards for Pauper, and of course plenty of EDH fodder. This lottery is an unwelcome distraction, but for once I'm glad collector boosters exist so they can do stuff like this in a separate product that people like me don't have to care about.

Great information. I bought a Bundle from my Local Walmart for $62.00 strictly for "the one ring" Bundle print.

i feel like The One Ring isnt even in the wild yet. they might hold it till near the end of the printing, then put it into circulation. keeps hype high so people keep buying packs

@larrysilvers8134

Жыл бұрын

I remember Wizards saying that the One Ring would be put into a booster in the initial release. The second wave of lotr product printed would not have it.

@lordmatz3435

Жыл бұрын

how can anyone get hyped by this? its like getting hyped to play the lottery

@drakor98

Жыл бұрын

​@@lordmatz3435It's called a gambling addiction.

@SyntheticReign

Жыл бұрын

@@larrysilvers8134 And for SOME reason, I just don't believe them XD

@MichaelQ-iv7pt

Жыл бұрын

Thing is eventually hype dies down, but the major searchers will still want it. If i cracked it (hahahahaha) I wouldn't report it until the preauctions hit higher.

Just started playing this past year with my son who has been playing for about 20 years. I would have purchased the wrong cards if not for your informative videos! Thank you!

Other card games: A nice box with neatly arranged cards and booster packs, and perhaps a trinket or two that can be snuck into a D&D game. Magic: Have you watched Willy Wonka?

@peterrhines1516

Жыл бұрын

lol

The 8 pack bundle actually seems pretty decent because the one ring is really good and getting a free one seems nice

That box flop at the start is legitimately the sexiest thing I've ever seen. Smooth as heck, Prof. Good show.

The scene cards are basically more widely available secret lairs, that have a bonus.

Thank you so much for this video! I'm not a MTG player but all this talk of the 1:1 One Ring card really piqued my interest. I dug around the official MTG website and was pretty confused about how to even possibly get a booster pack with a chance of getting that card. Of course, after realizing that the Collector Sets are going for 300-400 I realized that I can't actually afford any of it anyway. But I still appreciate someone taking the time to put out this kind of information regardless! ❤

thank you for clarifying this. I only recently joined the magic community due to being a die hard fan of tolkien and already interested in magic but this made irresistible lol. that being said it was a tough to learn it all but thanks to all your help i feel like i may actually stand a chance at my local store's tournament that i signed up for on impulse of buying my elven council commander pack. So again thank you very much

Hit the like button just for Sen Vrenak. Rest in Power, King.

@johnbono2384

Жыл бұрын

He was murdered in cold blood by an operative of the Federation #Justice4Vrenak

If the ring gets opened up in a supplementary product, seems like a shady setup and, to my understanding, could be a lawsuit along the lines of false advertisement or something. It definitely will feel scummy if they did this.

@ericg3814

Жыл бұрын

They advertised it as being in the gift bundle, they have plausible deniability. Nothing will come of it.

@AeileonNOTW

Жыл бұрын

The problem is there is not really a way to prove it was intentionally put into a bundle since it was advertised as random

@hallaloth3112

Жыл бұрын

I guarantee you they covered their legal bases when they went into this.

@Gzilla313

Жыл бұрын

​@@AeileonNOTWI like the theory that it'll be in a gift bundle so it can come in it's own protective case. Can't have that in a random booster pack.

@ForeverLaxx

Жыл бұрын

Nothing ever happened to McDonald's when they were running their Monopoly Game scam. They always knew where the Boardwalk piece went and the only random element was who got it the day it was delivered. They never released it into the wind and never to a random location; it was always picked in advance and that was never advertised.

thank you for clarifying this professor, i miss the days where we had just a few different products and didn't need a PowerPoint presentation just to understand what is in what lol

Thank you so much for making this video. I saw this on the shelf the other day and my little monkey brain was like "my precious!" I'm glad I held out

The singles market is going to be amazing for non-collectors and even casual collectors. Can get all the alternate/full art I want because people only care about serialized cards or commander reprints. People are cracking so many collectors that the full art foil lands should be cheap to pick up. Only thing currently crazy is the Nazgul prices but those will come down.

@RodRombauer

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch Profs last video of the Set Booster Box game? SO MANY 25 CENT RARES HOLY CATS. Even the only card iIm absolutely getting 4 of, a new, hot combo piece, Rosie Cotton, was 35 cents for a foil full art. This set is geared for gamblers, and PLAYERS wallets rejoice. Nice $13k sol ring dude, get 50 cent combo'd.

@PieMan061

Жыл бұрын

Yup, loving the singles market right now. People complaining about the price of the set I’m just like “ok…don’t buy a box then”

@ronyheat91

Жыл бұрын

I was hoping people we make all cards minus serialized to be consider "chaff". Yes I would like to pick up the singles i want for dirt cheap.

@pascalsimioli6777

Жыл бұрын

Or just print them. My The Ruinous Powers deck is better now that I've printed more demons and put them in.

@registereduser

Жыл бұрын

I had the same thought. The only sealed I’m buying are the Commander decks, I’ll be able to get an assload of singles for the price of even a draft booster box*. *ah, when there was only one type of booster box…

At pre-release for my LGS they were just hard pushing people to the 40 dollar box if all you want is a ring. The owner was like "you ain't getting the ring. If you want one save your money and just get one from this box."

I also picked up a draft pack yesterday to play with my friends and when I checked out at Walmart I noticed it was $17.50. that's crazy the "bulk" price being almost $6 just to play the basic game is outrageous... I want to pick up one of each variation of this set from draft packs and boxes to set and collectors in every way they release it to keep in my collection forever but I want to send them a message by not buying anything

Da missus and I enjoy cracking packs together since '97. With that in mind, the bundles are a neat way to get started on seeing just what is in a set before grabbing a new set/booster box of the set.

I live in Sweden and a pre order costs about 850kr-1000kr which is about the same as 85$-100$ and when I saw these really high prices I was really surprised.

I had the gift preordered when it was still 80. This is insane

Top tier Professor Commentary, thank you for taking the time with this one.

I’m a Pokémon collector/player at heart, but this 1/1 situation is awesome to see unfold, thanks for the info! Also just for the record, I would love to see Maxmoefoe open the 1/1 ring just for the slight chance that he would actually throw it in a fire.

I just drafted this set tonight, I think I got my value's worth, even if my deck stunk, but I had fun regardless. I pulled a horn of Gondor and a delighted halfling and a Boromir, warden of the tower extended art. just those last 2 cards pay for my draft by themselves

The bundle for 40 bucks would be very nice indeed. The store where I went for pre-release had them for 110€ a piece though…

@ghostemane85

Жыл бұрын

thats what I'm saying.... Were these 40-dollar bundles at... LoL

@jakob1827

Жыл бұрын

​@@ghostemane85target

@ghostemane85

Жыл бұрын

@@jakob1827 no there not... there 65 dollars go look in store...

Im such a LOTR simp that I started buying these cards without knowing anything about MTG. That landed me on your videos and now me and my daughter are learning the game with traditional cards and im just buying my favorite singles from the LOTR set. And HELL YES that evens means black Aragorn! Thanks for the upload man! Your videos rule!

Thanks Prof. was genuinely looking for these answers online about everything. Saved me and my bank account.

Thank you for opening the bundle!!!! Thank you!! i thought i would have the nice basic lands from lord of the ring that look like map pieces :( but is is just normal basic lands. What a shame i think the map pieces look really nice.

At 1:27, the gilding looks surprisingly real to the WOTC reveal video. No weird rainbow foil all over and raised gold edges. Are we sure that sketchy email is all hot air?

@fraserpark8377

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Maybe reply to that email!?

@anastasyauskov2829

Жыл бұрын

Yea. It looks real. Imagine showing the real One Ring to the whole world, opened on or before June 16, and laughing about it being fake. Gilding like that hasn't been duplicated by counterfeiters and you can even see the raised, gilded text on the ring itself.

I don’t play or collect Magic, but your videos are so good that I can’t stop watching them.

Thanks for making sense of this, very helpful!

This level of confusing competing products is absolutely not by coincidence.

Well it’s official, it has been found. Confirmed by wizards and even graded by PSA at a 9

I'm sad as we probably won't have service on Friday. Western Alaska problems. Love catching your streams 0:46

Senator Vreenak! Prof you are just a delight to listen to! Never stop being you! :)

I like the game. I REALLY have serious issues with the company.

@TolarianCommunityCollege

Жыл бұрын

That is how a lot of us feel.

@Runescythe9852

Жыл бұрын

I have a few friends who dropped the game over this set. I still will play the game. The only card I want anyways is the Sliver in the commander set

I really wanted to buy a bundle, but where I live the prices have been ticking up to €100 for 1 bundle 😮 so i just bought everything I wanted for my commander decks and only spent about €35

@cornflake6877

Жыл бұрын

Yes, same in the U.K, used to be around £35/40 for a bundle. Just paid £56 for the new bundle yesterday

@r.a.w.780

Жыл бұрын

@@cornflake6877 I hope you at least got to unpack some cool stuff 😊

I had the whole fake jumpstart thing happen and I also definitely thought the commander deck I bought had a collector pack and was like “oh cool what’s a sample pack?” . Definitely some predatory stuff.

Thanks for looking out for us, Prof

Imagine buying your friend a gift bundle and they pull The One Ring. 💀

@whysoserious9214

Жыл бұрын

then you both r rich if he‘s really your friend 😂

@turtleboy2150

Жыл бұрын

If I were to give my friend that, I would have them sign a legally binding document that says we split the value of the ring if they pull it.

@AlluMan96

Жыл бұрын

@@whysoserious9214 Honestly, as I thought about this very scenario as well, I imagined it going something more like when Smeagol first got the ring.

@hetmaaan

Жыл бұрын

​@@AlluMan96 Most lore friendly outcome

@GalatheonIL52NEP

Жыл бұрын

You’d better be best friend after that. 😂

Normally draft packs are just $12.50 a little over $4 each. A 50% increase is a smack in the face.

You are totally correct my friend. Found too early = lack of sales. Confusing aspects = more sales. There will be one lucky person to find it in the proper bundle, especially if they release later. It's "smart" marketing on their part.

The regular bundle sounds nice since it already has the Panorama Ring, at a $40-$45 range. Unfortunately I've seen the regular bundle and the Commander Decks at Walmart for almost $70.

The more I see Hasbro be sketchy AF like this the more I want to buy more wish proxies lol

@xXichigoogihci

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@CSHummer

Жыл бұрын

Sold my cards 4 years ago, bought proxies, only play casually now. I regret nothing. Every set that comes out wizards becomes more and more depraved.

@user-et3xn2jm1u

Жыл бұрын

Proxies are morally good.

@jayjaydeth

Жыл бұрын

This comment is here to remind you that Wizards themselves sold 4 random booster packs of proxies for $1000 in "celebration" of the 30th anniversary of the game.

@AstrologorumMonarcha

Жыл бұрын

I don't have access to playing IRL with real people (I live in the countryside and Magic enthusiasts in my country don't even play cube) so I just play online with a bunch of Americans and Europeans. I'd never give a single penny of my money to these scoundrels.

I have had such a great time incorporating so many LotR card in my existing commander decks as well as playing with the pre-con decks from the set. It's sad that the 1 ring is still going to dampen so much of the conversation for so long because there's so much cool stuff to love from this set and I'm not even focusing on the ring tempting you bit even that is cool imo.

40 dollars for the regular bundle is unheard of in Canada right now. Your looking at $100+ 😅

I'm so excited... I met the professor at the command fest and that's my "Fake" one ring he signed in the video!!!

I'd just like to say I have no idea where you're finding the standard Bundle for $40 but neither my LGS nor big box stores like Target & Walmart are selling it below $64.99-$69.99. Makes me so sad cause I really want a Bundle for my collection but I REFUSE to pay an extra $20 for literally no reason. 😢

I love magic, love my LGS, love my fellow players. I HATE WOTC and Hasbro for what they’ve done to this beautiful game. I hope there is a huge change soon.

@Drako9823

Жыл бұрын

Don't support product that uses bad business practices. People need to start boycotting and stick to it.

@lefthandedghost

Жыл бұрын

@@Drako9823 i agree that’s why I do just as prof says, buy singles not sealed.

@Drako9823

Жыл бұрын

Singles are the best we can do, but that also means no commander precons. Not like they have much value to keep up with powercrept tables. Prof has good advice in the end.

@ghostemane85

Жыл бұрын

LoL... u can keep hoping.... Cus with the extreme success of the set, aaainnntttt shi t changing ..... Its gonna get worse

great video thanks. was at target today and didnt know what to buy glad i walked away

I’d love to see more budget commander precon videos, especially on Shelob or other LotR commanders

It's interesting that with The One Ring costing about $30 now, the rest of the bundle (8 set boosters, 3 other promos, lands and die) all cost together about $10 :D

@pytawidmo

Жыл бұрын

OK, from what I can see those bundles sell for "Out of stock" or $90+ in most places :P

@Mushroomhaus0001

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you had to buy the bundle early on in pre-orders. People are snapping up The One Ring that’s guaranteed in the bundles because it’s making a splash in modern, so bundle prices shot up. They’ll come back down eventually.

At this point I’ve accepted they’ll get away with pretty much whatever they want. You’d think by now the FTC would’ve stepped in regarding misleading and predatory tactics. Much like they have with loot boxes in video games. But if they haven’t done anything about it yet: I doubt they will.

@TheChadarad

Жыл бұрын

They’ve been proven how absolutely scummy they can be over the last couple of years but morons keep buying into all of it and let it go. Only but singles and only packs when drafting, that’s all I ever do now.

@whitey00112

Жыл бұрын

@@TheChadarad oh I get that. But it’s the same with loot boxes. They didn’t step in to deal with that because people weren’t buying them. They stepped in because the practice was scummy.

@Calvin_Coolage

Жыл бұрын

The FTC can't even take on Amazon properly, you really think they could do anything to Hasbro or WOTC?

@Starbound_UC

Жыл бұрын

@chadsmith4450 and please tell me, if you only buy singles and say that people who buy sealed product are idiots... where do you think singles come from exactly? And what does that make of you?

Thank you so much for making this video! Well done!🎉🎉

I used your code for whatnot and I got alot of commanders my lgs didn't have. The biggest buy was a Graded SLD rhystic study for $5 after you credit was applied :) thanks 13:28

Worst part about the plethora of confusing products available is that this set definitely brings in more casual or totally new players. You can even see it by the number of reddit posts that read basically "New player here, confused about the LotR set, don't know what to buy"

If it turns out they deliberately seeded it into the gift bundles, they'd be liable for false advertising on the collector boxes that say "may include serialized ring card". Just a thought

@patan93

Жыл бұрын

they would have to prove that they seeded it at random

@FIZZ1X

Жыл бұрын

That disclaimer is towards the individual collector packs, even if it's in a gift bundle the ring would still be pulled from a collector pack thus validating their claim. Scummy, yes, but illegal, no.

@RodRombauer

Жыл бұрын

Did everyone forget the 300/700/900 Serialized Sol Ring cards absolutely qualify as 'serialized ring card'?

@codymusser1555

Жыл бұрын

@@FIZZ1X But they do have advertising/marketing images specifically saying it COULD come from a collector box pack. If they knew it couldn't, i.e. they knew where it was seeded, I'd argue that's enough to say the advertising was misleading.

@ericaschner3283

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, everyone likes a good conspiracy but there's just no way they'd do that intentionally. Any whistleblower (and there would have to be dozens of people involved) would get the company fined hundreds of millions of dollars. Usually when companies run these ̶s̶c̶a̶m̶s̶ promotions they use a third party to ensure it follows all regulations across every country they deal in. Also, what does Wizards care about the price packs are being sold for on the secondary market? They've already sold every single one of them to stores months ago at whatever price. It's not like card stores or Amazon are going to send Wizards their surplus.

Hey prof, I know you don't like the "set" Jumpstart boosters, but do you see value in having some from different sets mixed in with the "classic" Jumpstart packs? IE: pulling two packs that could be 2022, or, all is one, or lotr? It seems like it could still be fun, if that's the most important thing. You don't think they'd work together in the same way?

Having started working at a small store that has access to mtg product (we sell a few and the store owner also own a lgs and we share stocks), I'd be curious to check what the difference between the cost price we pay and what the heck people are actually buying all those for. Right now it's within the normal profit margin I'd expect, but if things sell well and prize in store skyrocket? Yeah am really curious

I used to absolutely love MTG. I was so enamored by it, and would never miss a chance to play (FNM, casual, or otherwise) but ever since Throne of Eldraine it all just got zapped away. Occasionally I look back and watch a video on new MTG stuff but then I see stuff like this ring or the 30th fiasco and it just drives me further away. I went to Yu-Gi-Oh and while not perfect by any stretch, Konami are slam dunking on Wizards right now. The game is really fun for me, and between their reprints and what they are giving us for their 25th anniversary this year, like their '25th anniversary pack it's a great time to play and their bigger tournaments like their "YCS"'s are breaking all time attendance records lately. It's a shame but I just don't think my love will be the same for MTG, the bridge is all but nearly burnt.

I've always loved your content, but I gotta say that after trying Whatnot myself I've found it to be very predatory. I've kinda been taken off guard by all the Whatnot promotions on the channel lately. It seems even more strange on a video like this where you are warning people about being taken advantage of.

@LazerpawX7

Жыл бұрын

Predatory in what way?

@TheSchemingSkeleton

Жыл бұрын

@@LazerpawX7 the site makes it way too easy to continue to dump money with the click of a button like a slot machine. The bidding system is also predatory because there is no delay or way to back out of a bid from when you enter a dollar amount and hit bid. This can lead to accidentally over bidding for items. I'm not attacking anyone here these are just my thoughts/feelings towards the platform.

@JavierOrtizBultron

Жыл бұрын

I agree it is way too easy to spend too much work n whatnot and that most MTG games, etc are designed for the store to win. I wouldn't say they are predatory. They are mostly straight forward with the details. Is just the gambling nature of boosters.

@TheSchemingSkeleton

Жыл бұрын

@@LazerpawX7 there are also streams where people aren't selling anything tangible, just rolls with a chance at product which is 100% gambling.

@TheSchemingSkeleton

Жыл бұрын

@@JavierOrtizBultron I'm more referencing the way the platform is designed. It doesn't make it very clear or easy to come back from an accidental bid. I also see so many streams where people are selling a booster pack for $50 and a "chance to win" which is 100% predatory on the sellers part and Whatnot just allows that to continue. This is a good discussion either way and I am glad people are interested in having a conversation about this.

This was such good info. I am returning to magic for this set. My son and I are having fun playing the starter set. Since I have been gone I don’t understand what all these different packs and boxes are. I don’t care to hunt the 1/1 ring so what’s the product I should buy to collect the set and be able to play it with my son and friends?

Thank you much for sharing this video. I needed this rational thought processing information

I'm new and your tutorials are really helping! Love it guys!

@pedromoreira2875

Жыл бұрын

He really helps new players understand crucial points about the products.

@ashenwuss1651

Жыл бұрын

Prof has become essential to mtg and then some. Wizards is a successful company, thus they know how to fool their consumers into spending money. Be aware when buying products. Teach your kids about this!

@gnomeexclusive

Жыл бұрын

@@ashenwuss1651 bruh I'm still a teen lol

I still think the sample pack gimmick in precons is silly. The old intro decks used to have actual packs of their set included. Personally I’d rather prefer they replace the sample packs with like a set booster or something actually substantial. The “collector” sample has always been a bit misleading since they started doing it last year

Thank you Prof for taking the time to explain to me which products have a chance at getting the 1/1 ring but I'm sorry because I still don't get it 😂

Just want to say as someone coming back to mtg after a couple of years I love the lotr cards and artwork. I only started buying the cards two weeks ago but already my kids and I have played over 30 times. I bought a normal bundle and gift bundle for the cool boxes and countdown dies. Maybe I am in the minority but it is cool to mix two of my favorite nerdy things mtg and lotr.

Always on point and guiding in a neutral way, truly a prof.!

as always thanks for the video professor

@TolarianCommunityCollege

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

The Deep Space Nine Senator Vreenak meme at the beginning of the video, lmao loved that

Opened all scene boxes on my own channel. Big surprise in one of them. But a lot of the foil scene cards are damaged somehow. See the video's, its very bad quality control on WOTC part. Great video prof.

I feel bad already for the dude that opens the actual One Ring and has to prove that it's real.

I miss when MTG was focused primarily on making a great game with a great story rather than shoving as many products at us as possible. Opening packs used to feel like I was slowly discovering a new story, and that I was in some way a part of that story, but now they really just don't put much effort at all into the story or worldbuilding, and this set is by far the worst example of this. They haven't even put in the effort to make any story, they just bought the rights to one they knew people bould pay for.

Are the lord of the rings bundles good if i want to make a commander deck? Or is there a better option to get packs to make a deck? (Im a newer player to magic, i started last summer and i wanted to start making my own decks out of packs)

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

Honestly states should start treating Magic like a lottery. It's clearly addictive like playing the lottery and that could be problematic for some people.

When pre-orders first became available, I decided to buy the gift bundles because at first, they were a good value at $85. I was not prepared to pay over $350 for a collector box.

@pascalsimioli6777

Жыл бұрын

Good, maybe someday you'll stop supporting shady companies to the point of pre ordering

@BloodTithingsGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@pascalsimioli6777 mainly because I wanted to. I want the d20s and the scene cards and they'd be sold out if I didn't.

@hallaloth3112

Жыл бұрын

@@pascalsimioli6777 When stores are having trouble keeping supply. . .sometimes Pre-Ordering is the ONLY way to even get a chance at owning the product. The Original Warhammer deck print our game store only ordered enough for their pre-orders, we had to go elsewhere. They were two weeks late getting their Jumpstart boxes.

@registereduser

Жыл бұрын

That was a good price for the gift bundle.

Very glad you're pointing out all this intentionally misleading packaging, Prof! It really reminds me of the shady stuff food companies do, like saying something is "made with X" when X is the tiniest speck of the product but legally, they aren't lying. It's a big reason I refuse to engage with this product at all.

Love how you break this down it helps know the difference