the candy cane is the most skill based weapon in all of tf2

liberty launcher is on the threshold of going from the worst to the best launcher simply if the damage deficit were slightly reduced. charge the penalty from -25% to -15% or even -20% and I reckon it would get a ton of play. in its current state however it's just shit simply because you can't kill anything even if it has insane mobility, higher weapon accuracy and an extra rocket. In ozfortress it's a bannable offense to run or speak positively about the direct hit so I can't

@lessar2721

2 ай бұрын

Just spam it at scouts. Works for me they cant dodge 3 fast rockets. And ignore soldier 1v1s

All burst weapons that can do more damage than stock have been designed to avoid one shotting. The loch was nerfed, the backscatter has bad spread and the FAN can only do 113 damage.

@schorschmcgill

2 ай бұрын

Loose cannon can oneshot light classes.

@nak_0519

2 ай бұрын

@@schorschmcgill yeah but that requires special timing that stock doesn't need. None double donks deal less damage.

@AlexWellbelove

Ай бұрын

let me introduce you to the direct hit

@aidenb876

Ай бұрын

@baubles25 that can't one shot

@jollygrapefruit786

Ай бұрын

​@@aidenb876 it might as well

14:04 Tabbed out mid video, got trolled

something i think about with a love/hate relationship with tf2 and that is the between how satisfying it is to land that pipe- or that rocket and the movement but sometimes despite hitting those shots it doesn't get the kill, its heartbreaking when they get away. you summed up a lot of those thoughts in my mind really well, i wonder if changes will ever be made to these weapons, or at least if TF2 DOES end up in the community's hands-- will we make those items better?

these videos are amazing, glad to be around for you releasing these rn

Hey i love your. Vids i started seeing them after I got into competitive TF2 not too long ago

Loving your videos! They're very insightful and go straight to the point without editing *while* in a comp match! Now that's an achievement jajajdjfk Love listening to your vids while coding & doing some chores, so I can then do some labbing in tf2

I low-key wish Loch n Load was reverted to its original stats now that random damage variance is gone

@maatoangeleri2913

2 ай бұрын

Funniest thing is that stickies still have a +/-2% random damage spread to this very day. And Valve has already made a server rule to disable random fall damage spread, but chose not to enable it on official servers...

@lipschitzlyapunov

2 ай бұрын

Demo primarily relies on direct hits on pipes to deal damage, while soldier primarily relies on splash. Theres no reason to give a buff to the projectile speed AND a damage buff for aiming the pipes easier. No need to make an already good class even better.

@maatoangeleri2913

2 ай бұрын

@@lipschitzlyapunov The +15% damage buff wouldn't break many important damage thresholds, outside niches like killing healthy Battalion's soldiers in 2 pipes. The only thing this damage bonus would do is give some forgiveness when shooting wounded or slightly-overhealed targets, with the +15 damage helping cleanups.

at the exact time of that steam message i got a steam notification for a friend playing a game and i was confused why it made a sound

Glad to see the genre of reiterating old funke and lazypurple talking points is still alive and well.

Would be cool if the game footage was exactly what you were talking about, like how BKC will talk about something Gen 4 related then put like Gen 4 footage that may or may not relate to the topic of the video. ALSO MORE BATHROOM BREAKS

You're like the BKC of TF2 lol

@Wild_Rumpus

2 ай бұрын

didnt start out that way but ive definitely drawn some inspiration

You matter

@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate

2 ай бұрын

*>You don't*

What kind of hud do you use?

@Wild_Rumpus

2 ай бұрын

old version of ahud

@gluegunnergaming

2 ай бұрын

@@Wild_Rumpus thanks!

I got trolled so hard

12:56 id like to point out that even though they are the same number, they do not have the same affect. the positive version -25% is surprisingly +33.33...%, for me the easiest way to understand why this is, is to turn it into a fraction. -25% = 3/4 and +25% = 5/4, the way you get an actually equivalent affect between a percentage upside vs a downside is to flip the numerator and the denominator, so the 3/4 would become 4/3. thats how i got +33.33...%, btw the negative version of +25% would be 4/5 which is -20%. if anyone struggles to understand, think of the case of -50%, imagine you do -50% of the number 2, whats 50% of 2? 1 of course, now how much percent of 1 would you need to add to add to itself to get to 2? 100%! so taking 50% away requires adding 100% of the new number to get back to the original number. even though they are actually different, i dont think it would make a ton of difference if you pulled the direct hit up to 33% cause it seems like most thresholds are closer when decreasing rather than increasing, but that could be another case of that unintuitive numerical difference as you get to higher and higher fractions of the hp. someone would have to do the actual math to see what thresholds a +33% rocket launcher would cross.

@maatoangeleri2913

2 ай бұрын

Could a LL with -20% damage finally be meta? I'm guessing it'd have to give up a bit of projectile speed or something else. As for damage bonuses, even tho they may not break thresholds directly, they help increase your consistency in reaching those thresholds at longer ranges, as a damage bonus partially mitigates damage fall-off, and may be able to brush-off other factors like overheal or resistances

@gyroninjamodder

2 ай бұрын

They do have the same affect. From the wiki: Liberty Launcher: 84 (-28 damage) Stock: 112 Direct Hit: 140 (+28 damage) Both effects modify the damage by the same amount.

@maatoangeleri2913

2 ай бұрын

@@gyroninjamodder They add/subtract the same number, but a -25% is still relatively bigger than a +25% when comparing the final result vs the base stock damage. 100% is 1/5th of 125% Meanwhile 100% is 4/3rds of 75% 1/3rd is considerably larger than 1/5th, so the damage gap is significant

@maatoangeleri2913

2 ай бұрын

@@gyroninjamodder Also, don't compare full ramp-up numbers. Many weapons have different ramp-up values; rockets often have 125%, most guns have 150%, and scatterguns have 175%. What you're looking for is the Base Damage, which is 90 for the stock rocket, 112.5 for the Direct Hit, and 68 for the Liberty Launcher.

@cinnamoncat8950

2 ай бұрын

@@gyroninjamodder yes it modified it by the same amount but its not the same amount proportionally

how are you a comp player and the game doesnt look like shit? you dont even use a explosion script where it changes the explosion sprite for a way less lagger one

Wrong disagree I disagree

The liberty launcher also has increased push force, giving you stronger rocket jumps and stronger knockback on players you hit. It really is insane how close this weapon is to being disgustingly overpowered.

@krollic

2 ай бұрын

what. are you sure

@moonmelons

2 ай бұрын

@@krollic It sounded crazy when I first heard it but I tried it myself and it's slight, but noticeable. Really shows how much nobody uses the thing.

@maatoangeleri2913

2 ай бұрын

Tested this out; not true. Make sure you weren't in a rebalance server when testing this, as servers like ctf2w or bad weapon rehab often tinker the LL this way. The LL has less enemy knockback due to lower damage, and it deals the same knockback on user as any other RL