So glad to see a upload from you and so glad yall are ok!

I bet they will work out the few bugs after it's been out for a little bit, it looks like any faults are strictly in the software side of it. It would be interesting to repeat the test a few updates later. Thanks Dustin great job as usual

Thanks for posting great content!! Your channel, along with a few others, is definitely the reason I have enjoyed the rc & drone hobby over the past 6 years. You have a great channel here, and I'll be watching!!

Thank you for your honesty. Great product review ❤

Good to see your ok and your wonderful family as well

These trees are looking lush. In my experiences, and what I’ve seen from other videos, the Mavic 3 does best when the trees look like this. The thin sticks and branches with sparse leaves gave it the most trouble.

Bro the Best video I've seen on active track efficiency! A harsh environment but at some point we will find ourselves in one and we need to know how it reacts. 👍👍👍

Now this is the testing I know you for. Like your new place but I’m sure you miss Hawaii a lot. Awesome job

You make the best reviews…. I watch your reviews even if I have no interest in the product…… cuz I know ur gonna put it through the gauntlet…. Thanks keep it up

I live in Chicago and I also have the air 3 but I love your videos I've seen all of them 😊 my best drone reviewer

Hey Dustin. In tighter environments like the road out from your place, it might have have been ideal to track in parallel mode. Still available if you slide left from center of direction compass. Thanks for the test. I am also finding Air 3 sensors are sensitive to bright sun. 1pm in the Soutwest is damn bright - try it after 5 pm i guarantee you will get a better result. From Air 3 and Mavic 3 documentation: Do not use Focus Track when: The lighting is extremely dark (10,000 lux)

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Yep, we can talk about ideal environments and situations catering to DJI's capabilities all day but everyone just wants a drone that you can put up in the air and not have to worry about all the shortcomings. I think this is a reasonable country road test environment that many will want to track in. I'm just surprised certain tech like OA & tracking aren't working much better by now. I'll try and do another tracking test on a different vehicle using the other lens etc. I'm just honestly worried it won't survive 🍻

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Good point

Hello Dustin..Greetings from Ireland. Just heard about your channel from Windswept Robert so decided to see what all the praise was about..subscribed and i will enjoy an honest mans videos....i own the Mavic 3 Classic and Mini 3 Pro and have no intention of monetising my channel , i just have one so i can watch on a 65 inch 4 k TV and for my daughter to see my hobby (she is overseas). All the best and i am looking forward to your content.

Thanks Dustin for the real-time review. Man, two crashes on the same day and the same tree! Not too good! I'm sure DJI will probably get complaints about the trustworthiness of the obstacle avoidance. Still, this is my preferred drone to get over the Mini 4 Pro. They did not do enough with it to merit dumping my Mini 3 Pro. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Dustin. I've watched this video a few times and started watching it again tonight. I just got this drone as my first DJI Drone on Tuesday. What an amazing drone it is compared to the Autel Evo Lite Plus. Anyways, in the beginning of your video you said you were recording in 4k 60fps. I'm wondering if that had any affect on the tracking capabilities at all? Maybe in a lower resolution it would track better. Dunno. Just a thought. 🤔

Appreciate the honest review of tracking. I'm in an area with a lot of power lines, so I've been hesitant to test. Now I know to be very cautious around trees. Wish others were as straight forward. Did you try tracking with the 3X camera? Some seem to have found that it keeps track of you better with the 70mm lens.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I haven't tried with the other cam. Thinking of doing a follow up review with the 3X cam and a bit more features 🍻

Hi Dustin, great review very honest and detailed review, do you share your review with DJI and if you do. Do they ever get back to you about all this issues?

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I can ask if they know what may have happened here 🍻

Nice video, but could you do one explaining how avoidances sensor works? We see its flaws but why...

Very good test Dustin! For the sake of active tracking, stay humanoid 😂❤

Brilliant glad you are ok 👍👍👍

Respect, hope you and your family are ok

The way he cleans the obstacle avoidance lens is probably the reason why it falls. Look at 26:24

@rayduck6300

7 ай бұрын

This is how he rolls. Many of us watch for the laugh.

great videos

How does it know where is the front? If you tell it to track from the front when it is started behind you, why would it move to the front of you? Maybe it assumes it’s already in front of you? So, from its perspective, when you move forward, it thinks you’re backing away. Maybe you have to manually put it in front of you before.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Because programming algorithms account only for direction of movement. Ie: once it detects you are moving in a direction it will always try to use that direction as "front" in all tracking options. 🍻

I actually just watched the video with your 1.5 year old son... that was precious! The comments are turned off though. I sort of can understand why, sad to say. But, it was so cool to watch. 1 and a half years old! Wow are you having fun or what? I'm now with my six year old grandson, and he's a handful. But I do love it. I didn't think I would, but I do. Anyway I'm glad I'm a subscriber to your channel. I hope to see many more videos with him growing older. You stay young though, o.k. ?

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Thank you. KZread apparently shuts off comments when you select a video as "made for kids" 🍻

Like the hat ! The Air3 Active Track definitely leaves alot to be desired…. Glad to see you releasing content!! God Bless!!

I think that tracking from the front was the problem for the drone. It goes passed the corner you turned at, (not knowing you were going to turn) then having to speed up to get around to back in front of you and with the sudden speed up could no avoid the crash in time. So I would think following would be best option. Also when you changed from rear to front there wasn't enough space for the drone to get past you and it was doing best at avoiding the trees at that point. None the less, very interesting.

@gregausit

4 ай бұрын

That is what it will be, due to the trees, it is trying hard to get to the front and there is no way it can with trees so close, and then is moving too quick to stop in time when going sideways...

@DustinDunnill

3 ай бұрын

Yet the Skydio 2 has never hit this tree doing the same maneuver at faster speeds. Always room for improvement 🍻

You should use that dope electric chopper to track!

I think you’ll see different tracking behaviors at different altitudes. My Mini 3 will reduce speed automatically at lower altitudes when obstacle detection is on and then increase speed automatically when flying over 20-30 feet. It’s like the drone is programmed to go slower at lower altitudes to allow its processor time to analyze its environment. I’ve seen the obstacle detection work, but I don’t trust it nears trees and power lines.

Glad you’re apparently ok dude

finally someone took the gimble cover off right

Appreciate your honest review. Looks like DJI still needs work on obstacle avoidance. I'm really shocked that they'd put this new drone out, but the dam thing still crashes. I ordered the drone expecting that it would not crash. Many thanks for not BS'ing us and giving us a "real" review. And shame on those other reviewers for not giving the drone a thorough review.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

It will likely perform differently in different environment situations. This is how it performed for me and I've thoroughly Tested many. Main thing as I mentioned, keep it in rear track for any slightly technical situations or you may have these results 🍻

@mateidji

10 ай бұрын

​@@DustinDunnillDji needs to fix it asap. Even the Mini 3 Pro did a better job, and that is a cheaper drone

Dji Need a beacon like now, whats the hold up.

Which drone did u have following your daughter, she was riding a board or something??? Can't remember the drone or find the video

I’m wondering did the recent firmware update improve the tracking performance?

Years and years later and Skydio 2 is still by far the best. Man I wish Dji would copy Skydio or Skydio releases a new consumer drone.

Hi Dustin that was some good testing but now sure how in other reviewers video all the tracking features seems to be working fine Billy Kyle is one of them please check his video of tracking. May be some updates here and there will work. Take care buddy

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Likely a premium environment for DJI's OA with less obstacles or they just don't want to show the reality of the situation? My review is just me being honest on how it worked for me in this environment 🍻

@26punu

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill yes true I agree it could be the case

I think tracking may need to be done in open spaces, I tried mini 4 doing similar to this and from the front is very dicey if trees are around.. I would bet that the speed and side sensing just cannot keep up properly, I brought it down and will only be using in wide open space.......also, it is human tracking, no e bike or e skateboard which is making it fly way to fast compared to walking or jogging. If doing a specific scene, may be better to pre set with waypoints.

Come on, kudos to it, trying to track from the front with how many obstacles?

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Now you know 🍻

Tbf.. ur asking it to track you extremely close to trees. I think it does an incredible job given the surroundings. Using tracking in less busy surroundings gives amazing results from my own testing. However I have found that it won't track as low to the ground as I would like really. Parallel tracking is pretty awesome though!

@flaviamendes6211

10 ай бұрын

Exactly! A ridiculous comparison! I'm sure with any other drone would not cope with this bull💩comparison

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Other drones have coped. This is how it performed in this environment 🍻

@abellau4105

10 ай бұрын

@@flaviamendes6211tell me you’re a fanboy without saying you’re a fanboy.

@flaviamendes6211

10 ай бұрын

​@@abellau4105🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You got me fanboy!! 👌👍👆🤙

You should make a video with the mini 3 Pro doing the exact same tracking you did with the Air 3. Dying to see the outcome of both!

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

It would need to be a rear track only comparison since the Mini 3P can't do the others 🍻

@alldroneYT

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill please do someday the same test with mini 3 Pro... possibly with other drones too. I remember testing activetrack for the first time on my back then brand new Mini 3 Pro, I was walking in our local park, it followed me nicely over the entire park. And when I was planning to end the test, it suddenly went into few branches and then fell down. :D till that time I never used active track. I always do everything manually.

Looks like you live in a GREAT private location. NICE!!

Dji on tracking are not there yet

I think raising the air 3 above the trees would have given it a better shot of moving to the front. I'm not certain it is designed to climb suddenly by ten to twenty meters to keep in touch with the subject.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I'm going to do a test where it's above trees and using the 3X lense to track. The wide angle lens seems to lose track around 50ish feet away🍻

LETS HOPE DJI SEES THIS & UPDATES THE FIRMWARE & SOFTWARE

I can’t wait to have enough saved for the DJI air 3 but for now my mini 2 is good enough 😊love the vid Dustin 🎉

No doubt this is a disappointment in terms of tracking, but also, if you actually got your drone license to fly above 249g drones, you should know that you're the one responsible for the drone and how it flies, not to rely on automated systems, and to work on your own manual flying skills.. Absolutely good video and test that needs to be tested. But you get my point. Given how excellent the drone is in every other respect, this failure in tracking really doesnt mean anything to me. I dont buy a drone to expect it to be 100% automated and hands-off. I buy it to fly it, to feel it, to become a good pilot with it. Not to put it in auto mode and forget about it. But that said, some people DO buy drones for that, and yep, they will have a bad surprise once it crashes. Obstacle avoidance as it is now, is mostly for really obvious surfaces like buildings or hills. At that, it's very good. It's mostly for when its returning to home after having lost signal, so it at least has a CHANCE to try to avoid stuff on the way home by itself. It's not for automatic flying. And your drone licence education taught you that as well.. Fly your drones manually folks, that's what they're made for. Thats what you pay for. And for gods sakes folks, put prop guards on it if you really want to have it be automated. You wont notice the 100 grams extra, nor the -0.5m/s speed you lose due to the aerodynamics.

@DustinDunnill

3 ай бұрын

I unbiasedly test the products and the features of the products claimed by the brands...period. This was specifically a tracking and avoidance test not a fly your done manually test (I show manual flight in my initial flight and other reviews). Some DJI fanboys get angry their favorite brand was put through this scenario and could have really done much better. This is how tech is improved. 🍻 **Edited because I sounded way to harsh on this kid**

@robskyful

2 ай бұрын

Too harsh .The sadness and disappointment in your voice was cool ..

I was more worried about you ridding with your kickstand down!

@rayduck6300

7 ай бұрын

I thought I was the only one who noticed it!

Hi host how are you, hope your ok about the news at hawai maui wildfire.

This surprised me. Think I'll just stick with my Air 2s for now! Great video 📹 👍

Trees are drone´s nemesis

That’s totally tour fault….if you understand what it is that tracking is capable of and that it’s not meant to try and do obstacle avoidance when it shows you right on the screen the circle that starts turning red when you aren’t giving the drone the space it needs

@Spolt_main

10 ай бұрын

This was a test of what the drone was capable of, and he demonstrated what it was capable of.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I'm not sure you understand how obstacle avoidance works...or is supposed to work. The red indicators are a visual representation of the obstacles the drone is seeing...which it is supposed to avoid 🍻

Thank you for being real!

One other feature that seems obvious to me but i cant seem to find, which is Stationery Tracking... As in, i fly my drone up to say 60ft, aim the camera down to the ground and say highlight my friend walking or biking around in a big circle in the area. Why cant i draw a box over the person and have the drone without moving forward, back, up, or down. Follow and Record the person by Yawing the drone left and right as necessary within limits, and have the gimbal follow up or down as the person moves from the bottom of the videos frame out of view to the top, and the camera tilts up smoothly to follow them as you were doing that. Like following a dog thats running around from up above, it doesnt need to move forward, if it can zoom maybe that could be a settings option, but just keep the Subject in the camera frame by only moving the drone and gimbal, but not actually having the drone move from its spot. That way you can kind of capture the same thing but from various viewpoints, various distance, and various heights where the subject moves and the Drone doesnt... Unless this is actually already a feature then maybe someone can let me know how to activate it, but i dont see it anywhere it the Menus, on my newer DJI drones like the Air2s and Mini 3 Pro..

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

That would be the tripod mode which is active as soon as you select an object without pressing anything else. The "eye" symbol is active on bottom. It does what you described above unless tracking loses the subject. 60 feet might be on the edge of its ability to keep locked 🍻

@mxracingunlimitedltd7784

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill thanks im going to try it. So i do it just from the main screen or from the Active Track menu? Yeah I actually do it from like 30ft now that im thinking about it actually, so yeah 60ft would probably be too high to track it

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

From main fpv view. Draw a box around a person. It will stay stationary and track. It should keep tracking as you move the drone manually as well 🍻

I wouldn't wipe the sensors with your shirt. I would use camera cleaning gear like a microfiber cloth. For me, every time I wipe my reading glasses with my clothes, it still leaves smudges on the lens and sometimes fine scratches. Maybe that can be the problem of it not doing too well. IDK, just my two cents. Thank you for your work on this video.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I wouldn't wipe them with anything but a very clean soft cloth or shirt. Perhaps Dji should include a small cleaning cloth if this could be an issue. I've always been able to clean very well. I'd imagine it will not cause issues if you are careful 🍻

Got dji and autel drones, the best of both worlds🛸🚀😂🤣😂🤙

Try doing front tracking with the 3x cam

@DustinDunnill

9 ай бұрын

Planning to 🍻

I have the same bike you do but I ride with the kickstand UP. What was with that? I even heard it scrap when you turned around. PLUS I would be concerned with the warning you were getting. Wonder if the electric bike is causing interference!.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

You should try with the kickstand down some time. Really a great experience. Especially when you forget to put it up 😘🍻

@RobertMacCready

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill That was too funny. Hey, if you balance the kickstand just right you can make an amazing 180 turn. And I must admit I've left it down a few times. Duh!!!

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

😂

@Digitalfiendscom

10 ай бұрын

Environmental interference wasn't caused by bike if that is what you're referring to. The drone was indicating that objects in the environment were preventing it from following in the requested facing. The drone would have had to swing around, likely into some trees, to get infront as requested and it was basically just refusing. 😄

Perhaps a brighter object, a florescent vest or target or a larger object, a golf cart or car will get better results. Try it out.

@BlairAir

10 ай бұрын

Shouldn't have to do any of that fie good results. People going to bring construction vests on holiday? That said Air 3 suffers in very bright light in my testing.

I just noticed the obstacle warnings showing up in the attitude indicator on the bottom left. Is that unique to the Air 3?

@mxracingunlimitedltd7784

10 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely Air 3 only thing, and possibly Mavic 3 Pro but i dont think so..

@abellau4105

10 ай бұрын

@@mxracingunlimitedltd7784 I figured it out on Mavic 3, while the attitude sensor is displayed you can toggle it on or off. I’m assuming it should be the same for the other M3 models.

@mxracingunlimitedltd7784

10 ай бұрын

@@abellau4105 Nice. Ill have to try it for my 2 drones. Air2s & Mini 3 Pro. Never know I guess. I dont have a Mavic 3 though. I went with a DJI Avata with Goggles & Controller, instead of a Mavic, and i love it!

Agreed

Hi friend I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A PERSONAL FAVOUR: can you make a camparative between the Aiir 3 and Skydio 2+ ? In particular I would like your comparison: A) between the Motion Track from Skydio and the Active Track 5.O from DJI Air 3 and Mavic 3 Pro in order to know if Skydio retires as the Floyd Mayweather from tracking drones (unbeateable) or overpassed by the last tecnology from DJI Active Track. B) Comparative between Key Frames From Skydio and Way Points from DJI Mavic 3 and Air 3. I will try to enjoy my Skydio2+ as much as I can 😢. I will try to be very carefull since Skydio Care warranty is not valid in Argentina 🇦🇷 and their sunset

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I can tell you the Skydio does not crash in THIS same environment location route but the video is slightly less smooth as Dji. There is a trade off🍻

you can see on your screen record that the air 3 does pick up the tree but for some reason doesn't want to go around it. I hope DJI comes out with some sort of GPS tracker. You could also use the 3x zoom camera for the tracking.

With a drone that doesn't have to stay below 250 grams I don't understand why DJI doesn't just have sensors that are dedicated to sideways obstructions like with the Autel EVO 2 or the likes. With a drone of this size or the size of the Mavic series, adding two more sensors (one on each side) wouldn't add enough weight to noticeably reduce flight time and should eliminate sideways blind spots. That's the direction Autel went with their larger camera drones and it makes sense to me. If you're a crash test dummy this is the drone for you. 😁

in minute 31:50 why when the drone passes over the power line is there interference in the video and not only in the transmitter?

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I don't see any interference 🍻

Wouldn't it be better to (aditionally/optionally) follow the RC (by GPS)? Even some Drones from 2015 could already do that (Follow-me-Mode). How big is the chance, that dji is gonna fix this in future updates?

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

You would think it would be built in by now as tracking redundancy

@bsk-quadkopter

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill it depends! Sometimes you want the drone to follow another object and sometimes you want the drone to follow yourself! For this case, following the RC would be perfect! (This should be switchable!) Does it make sense to write a mail to dji?

Hello! I have been in the world of drones and recording videos with them for a few months and I wanted to tell you about something that has happened to me since I bought my first drone (DJI Mini 3 Pro) until now the drone that I use regularly (DJI Air 3). My problem is that when it comes to recording videos (Especially at 4K 60 FPS), it is noticeable at certain times that the video gives important and appreciable jerks and it is something that in post-production ends up being a bit ugly. I have tried practically everything that has occurred to me, get micro sd cards with more writing bitrate, record automatically, manually, normal color profile, dlog profile and nothing, I have not been able to prevent the video from jerks at certain times when I recorded it I wanted to know if this has happened to you and if you have any ideas on how to fix it. Ty.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

If you have the best memory card and you've ruled that out as the problem, I'd try to get DJI to replace it. Is it happening on both drones?

@BlairAir

10 ай бұрын

Get a faster computer or stop recording in H265. That is almost assuredly your issue. If you don't have a dedicated GPU, H265 is too demanding as it is tge most demanding codec. It's not your drone or your microsd if you are using g a v30 card.

@Jougito

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill Yeah! That is why I rule out that it is not a thing of the drone. Because it would be bad luck if the same thing happens to me in both. Maybe some configuration that I have in the drone can affect it, I don't know.

@Jougito

10 ай бұрын

@@BlairAir Hi, thanks for the answer! Currently I record in H265 because 4K 60 FPS recordings directly force it to be that codec and not H264. I use a V90 UHS-II micro sd card, which in theory should be enough for a drone. But the practice is that despite having that card I still appreciate those jerks. As for the dedicated GPU, I have an RTX 3080, which I don't think is the problem. Ty.

Drone newbie here. Is the Mavic pro 3 any better at this sort of stuff or are they all the same system. Also is there a Mavic pro 4 in the pipeline?

@DustinDunnill

7 ай бұрын

I haven't tested the Mavic 3 Pro like this (too expensive 💸). I'd wager there will always be a new Mavic in the pipeline 🍻

@jamesburne3893

7 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill Thanks for the reply.

I think it does well with obstacle avoidance...... the problem is it isn't very good at obstacle(s) avoidance(s)!!! meaning when you are out flying you run into an obstacle every now and then and it does very well. but it gets confused when there is nothing but obstacles all around it especially when starting out that way. Think of where's waldo.... it is looking for you surrounded by obstacles everywhere.. but put waldo in a crowd of 10 and waldo can't hide!

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Seems about right. Disclaimer: "warning, this drone may crash randomly or terminate while tracking in all but the most ideal environments, ie: it may crash into trees, structures, etc at any given moment. Every additional obstacle in OA view at the same moment increases the crash rate by 25%". I just made that up 🤷‍♂️

I don't know why, but I keep getting WAY better results with every single one of my DJI drones in tracking, my mavic 3 is pulling "skydios" all the time, the same for the air 2s and the mavic air 2, does anybody have an idea why?

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Perhaps your environment has less obstacles? This is how it did in this country wooded area 🍻

This is what makes Skydio special. DJI's been making drones for so long, but they can't seem to get active track right. I still love the Air 3, but Skydio is just lightyears away.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. I do hope DJI advances their tracking more 🍻

Epic test man. Im not gonna lie flying sideways for any dji drone sounds like risky businuess even of it has omni directional obstacle avoidance😮😮

8:25 did you leave your side stand down?

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Yep, got distracted 🍻

@GrumpyDrone

8 ай бұрын

It was for quick park.😂

Thanks for your honest review. I don’t think dji will send you another drone though.

Teşekkürler, harika bir paylaşım. Bire bir aynı durumu yaşadım. ve sensör açık olduğu halde gidip ağaca çarptı

Hey Dustin..A Question: Is the BOTTOM of the Air 3 ‘polymer’ (Black), or aluminum..like my/the Air 2S? Thanks.. GREAT, but UNFORTUNATE review!

@DustinDunnill

9 ай бұрын

It has a metal bottom. Either aluminum or magnesium used as a heatsink like the others 🍻

I attempted the same test but on an open and clear area next to a canal. Despite there being little to no obstacles the drone completely failed when tracking. I’m hoping new updates could fix that.

Could the color of your hat be part of the tracking problem? If it’s not distinct enough from the surrounding terrain cause it to get confused?

I never understood why you need to fly in the trees....(of course this is a test) the real point of drone and aerial photography is to video from high above! You only have to lift a few feet and it goes nicely over the treetops and is much more interesting.

@mavic6155

10 ай бұрын

Sure, but then you as the user prevent the drone from crashing, while the drone should be able to prevent a crash by itself.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Seems like a narrow minded use for a drone. If you want to use a drone only for over the tree tops, what do you need all the sensor & tracking tech for? This drone can't even track higher than around 50 feet or so. You may as well get a basic drone with a good camera. The entire objective for having these features is for doing what I've done in this review 🍻

@jakabgipsz4788

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill Sure... I understand that. But it is unrealistic to expect the drone to avoid obstacles in quick succession. A few years ago we were happy if it just stopped in front of a solid wall. In my opinion, obstacle avoidance is an evening defence in case something escapes the operator's attention. None of these are suitable for operational use. That's why I said that there are fewer obstacles above the trees, but if there is a taller one, it's easier to avoid. The technology is not yet there to safely avoid bare tree branches, electrical wires, or complicated obstacles that come in quick succession. You can see it in the video here. That's why I don't understand why we want to be followed from 2-3 m (not aerial) by a device designed for aerial photography. A 360 degree camera mounted on a pole will do it and is even cheaper (safer). No drone needed. So I don't understand why a drone should be able to fly low in densely overgrown forest.... (I understand that you are testing this, no need to break mine)

@jakabgipsz4788

10 ай бұрын

@@mavic6155 Avoiding the real obstacle is just a dream. Think about it: since Tesla has been developing intelligent obstacle detection....Ah to avoid obstacles perfectly, you need a very intelligent and very fast system. The technology is not there. Even if they did, we couldn't afford it. Skydio was very advanced in obstacle avoidance, but they were also crashing. I saw a lot of videos like that. They advertise that they can see 360 degrees and avoid obstacles, but what they don't tell you is that it doesn't mean it can operate with lots and lots of obstacle avoidance, but that it can come in handy in the occasional, emergency situation. (if they advertised it that way, far fewer people would buy it).

My active track is not great, but seems to be better than yours. I cant draw a box around me or a car, it just wont register us. But if I turn on that auto subject detect function, I can get it to work. I used it from my car driving along a tree lined coastal road. I put it above the trees and it worked great. lost me once for going too fast, but Once I got the speed right it kept up. I had it in sport mode, but it wont track as fast as it can fly. But it was tracking faster than what you were going. Not great. But am sure for getting my kids at the beach it will be great. I also used it to track me on an open rice field. Couldn`t go fast but worked just fine. In the rice field the drone was lower but not too close. I found it works better from a bit of a distance either away from you or higher up. give it a go.

Why couldn't DJI have active tracking like the Skydio? The DJI RC & RC O4 controller have an android tablet built in there. With the ability to use its internal GPS and other sensors for location, even without internet. Then you could use offline maps for the drone, etc.. But the positioning is even better when you have that plus an internet connection as well. They have both wifi and bluetooth, so you could use your phone to create an internet "hotspot" over wifi to get Online. Then you have some pretty accurate GPS Info for the Drone, to be able to track and follow you/the controller better. Plus the newer drones have wifi-direct and would be able to use that type of connection to share data for the Active Tracking of a moving Subject. If that is how Skydio did it, then DJI could add this pretty easily purely with software. Every DJI controller could technically do the same if not more really. They all have internal GPS or for the N1 external controllers, you'll most likely have a phone connected to it that would have an internal GPS, most wifi tablets dont have a gps chip, but thats besides the point. I heard Skydio recently shut down, which is a shame because they were about the second best drone besides dji for this kind of stuff and was the best for following a moving target, even a fast one.. I remember seeing the skydio footage for the first time and how it worked as well and it was truly amazing. It was like you couldn't lose that thing if you tried as far as a lock, and it seemed to be very good at getting good camera angles while still avoiding things. Idk if you just needed to be in an open area, or if it actually did have obstacle sensors built into it..? The drone or controller can even tell the angle your at when facing the drone, so if you see the arrow pointing away from the drone, you could turn around, and using that arrow line up to be directly pointing the controller at the drone. So therefore you can do the same with drone to the controller or person. If they made a active track mode that just followed the DJI controller and its current location, assuming that would be needed for this level of tracking to work, it could use the current camera data, plus the controller's location data incase it loses the subject for a second or two because of a tree coming in-between the camera shot, and it would make the tracking way more accurate, and allow the drone to focus more on flying around obstacles, instead of constantly trying to use only the camera to follow a moving subject that is changing every second..

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Well said and I agree. There is so much tech onboard this should be doable with programming. Perhaps the reason is part of the generational product release / profitability model 🍻

@mxracingunlimitedltd7784

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill Yea it really does unfortunately.. Almost like how Apple would wait to come out with an Air 3S that had Mavic 3 level of sensors first, instead of actually making the Air3 significantly better.. idk. They will definitely improve it and they are known to come out with new updates even a year later so maybe they just wanted to release it and get it out there and hopefully theyre working to iron out these bugs… Because like you said that’s pretty bad and it’s disappointing really because I thought the Air3 with all the new sensors was the solution for this issue with still a medium and manageable sized drone. Plus smaller and cheaper batteries because of that. Can the Mavic 3 Pro do this kind of tracking or you haven’t tried it? I dont have a Mavic 3.. Ill have to tripod mode yeah I usually go up actually more like 25/30ft and i have the subject scanning option on so i can just draw the green box over someone or something and it locks on but it doesn’t actually follow it if it goes out of frame, it doesn’t try to move the camera gimbal or anything. It works if i put it Active Track on say my Mini 3 Pro which is what id like to use for this because of portability but it only works while using Active Track, same as my Air2s but then it tries to actually move forward and back with it and i cant focus on the controller the whole time to get the good shots at least lol. I have to try it again I guess though thanks

Yeah, gps tracking is probably the only way to solve most the tracking of objects moving faster than 10mph. I also think there is a lot of room for improvement in object detection which is critical for tracking moving objects. Avoiding tree branches is probably difficult for the onboard computer to map the best possible path to keep the up with objects that are moving faster than walking speeds... As far as other YT reviews being able to do better at tracking, I doubt they do any better, they likely record tracking stunts many times, and only include the footage that looks impressive. I bet all the failed attempts in this video could have been done if recorded several times and tweaked to avoid previous mistakes, but that would not have as realistic in terms of performance tracking. Thanks!

I feel like I got better tracking with the mini 3 pro. It might be because of the size difference tho

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

It's likely because the Mini 3 pro can only really do rear OA track. It will always swing back around to the rear which is the safest point. This Air 3 did seem to lose track more easily in some areas though 🤔

@alexvann1448

10 ай бұрын

@@DustinDunnill you probably right about that. I was hoping the air 3 was a little better but I still enjoy flying it

still mad that the new controllers dont work with the older drones :c

@mateidji

10 ай бұрын

True

I keep telling people, the main problem is telling the algorithm that you're a person and then getting on a machine (bike, skate board, one wheel, etc) and traveling 5-10x faster than a person can. Besides, DJI marketing aside, these drones are never going to have Skydio level tracking/ obstacle avoidance just like Skydio will never have DJI level cameras, transmission, flight modes, features, etc. Active Track was originally designed to be an aid to help you keep a subject in frame while flying. Now people expect drones to follow them and get cinematic shots. In my opinion, owning both Skydio and DJI, neither company really accomplish this. Skydio crashes less but the shots are often herkie jerky garbage. DJI gets better, smoother shots but they are way more prone to crashes. I think we all need to just make some friends... Hahaha!

@mxracingunlimitedltd7784

10 ай бұрын

Skydio is shutting down as far as i know, DJI should really consider buying there patents or hiring some developers to add some of these cool features to the DJI drones.. Its about the only thing really missing as far as main features. Active Track never really worked right, not on my Air 2s and not on my Mini 3 Pro either.. I just learned to follow manually while trying to get the smoothest shots but its not as good as AT could do it if it worked properly..

@londenard

10 ай бұрын

@@mxracingunlimitedltd7784 I hear you but the reason Skydio is done in the consumer space is because, as it turns out, most people don't care about Active Track. Trust me, companies don't walk away from profits. If they were cleaning up selling the Skydio 2, there would be a Skydio 3. I've been flying drones since you had to build them from kits. I now use the Mavic 3 primarily but I also have a Skydio 2 collecting dust. The thing that a lot of people miss is that the Skydio 2 has a very expensive processor that allows it to do what it does. DJI could do it BUT then the Air 3, for example would cost another $300-500. The average drone consumer, DJI's bread and butter, won't pay more for a feature most of us don't use regularly, if at all. I can count on one hand the number of times I've used Dynamic Track or Active Track. The fun of drones is flying them. Having the drone do all the work is REALLY boring in my opinion and not really rewarding since you could hardly say that YOU actually did anything. It would be like purchasing a vibrator for your wife and then bragging to all your friends how sexually satisfied she is.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Never is a very finite opinion. Tech changes very quickly under certain circumstances. I think we will have a drone that can do both soon 🍻

@londenard

10 ай бұрын

@DustinDunnill Maybe but will it cover all the bases? Will it get cinematic, autonomous, high-end tracking shots AND be able to fly 5 miles away, when you want to fly the drone yourself? That's the real question. Skydio fails miserably as a "pilot's drone". You don't fly a Skydio 2, you make suggestions. If you fly a Skydio down the same path 10x, you may get 10 different results. DJI fails at autonomous tracking but is awesome to fly. You can fly a DJI with confidence and precision knowing it'll go exactly where you tell it to. It's not as if Skydio can't make a more "DJI like" drone, with better range, flight time, better camera, etc. It's also not like DJI couldn't make a drone that tracks better and has even better Obstacle Avoidance. It's all about the market and customer base in my opinion.

I have trying it with the 3x lens. It is working better, but it is not working good! 😢

Thanks for trying. Now I know what not to try. I was hoping for better results out of this drone.

You should pull out the Evo2 for comparison. You know, old v. new

Did DJI fix this issue I'm nervous I have this drone coming to me?

I think it`s your hay, dude! lol

WHERE IS THE REVIEW FOR THE MAVIC 3 PRO??????

"Strong Environmental Interference" = TREES 🌳 - Active Track is simply informing you that it will TRY to record and fly from the selected position, but may have to default to behind if there are too many obstacles. You completely missed using the 3x tracking when you flew up higher than the trees. It is also hot or miss, but look's amazing! You can also do PARALLEL tracking - as with Mavic 3. Tap the center of the direction compass, and slide left. Viola! Parallel tracking, like previous versions. Your welcome.

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

I'll try the 3X cam in a follow up. When you say parallel... wouldn't that be the same as tapping left or right. I did it once or twice here but even that lost me in the culdesac and nipped a branch.

@BlairAir

10 ай бұрын

@DustinDunnill Nope. Not at all - remember we used to have what they called Trace and Parallel? Trace from behind and yes Parallel from the side, BUT! It doesn't move around behind you or put that "Strong Environmental Interference" thing up. It's probably for open areas, but the drone sticks like glue to the same distance and position - tracking steady without moving around to different quadrants. Just wanted you to know it's available. Tap and hold center of the direction thing, and slide your finger left. Worth checking out. Man! When it crashed into the same tree twice! Thats crazy 🤪

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Ok I'll try that in the follow up. Thanks for letting me know 🍻

Holy smoke ,jumping Jupiter,what the dickens,fiddlesticks ..

Dji fan 100% although active track absolute disappointment. Still gonna buy the air 3 haha

The front tracking is not able to follow above 15km/h so it's useless to try switching from back to front when already going close to maximum followig speed...

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

That's only 9.3 Mph. Much to slow for most tracking situations

I’ll wait for the possibility of an Air 3S. I skipped the Air 2 and very happy I did and I bought 2 Air 2S drones and I have not had any issues with either one. I’ve never had either one crash at all and I actually put them to a really tough test. I bought 2 thinking I would crash one and needed the other while I sent one in for repairs. But I have 6 DJI drones and 1 Autel Lite Plus and out of all of them I have not yet broken any of them. I hope they make an Air 3S. Excited for it.

@flightriot3454

10 ай бұрын

@@markybyeah if you owned the Air 2 and sent it back and got the Air 2S you would definitely understand why people are excited to see an Air 3S. Of course if you haven’t owned multiple drones by DJI then I’m sure you don’t understand. Don’t worry once you learn you will understand why your reply was nonsense.

I had the Autel Xstar Premium in 2017. It didn't have active track but what it did have was Follow Controller. Don't know why they don't incorporate that feature in drones today. Then you don't have to worry about drone losing you.

I Have bought DJI Air3 because i love their products. But they have more research and development before they can get obstacle avoidance working better. Right now i don’t use it.

The active track feels a bit off to be honest. It tends to move too close to me and suddenly back away making the shot seems like the drone is going crazy

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

Hopefully DJI can fix most of this with updates 🤞🍻

It appears to me that it need more space to track from the side or front or poi. It tight spaces like you were doing flying low with trees tracking from the back makes sense. It just can’t get around to transition from the back to front in tight spaces. Higher altitudes above the trees was a bit better but like you said more prone to loosing you. I see improvement over previous dji drones but it is no skydio. Also the skydio is no air 3. It’s sad that skydio has decided to drop consumer drones all together. Thanks for the review it was an excellent series as always. If you have family or friends in Maui still I hope they are ok. 🤙

Dustin you are on DJI's good guy list now. You are NOT allowed to show it failing like this.

@TheBigb1973

10 ай бұрын

For you....27:35 😅

@DustinDunnill

10 ай бұрын

"not allowed to show it failing" was no where in the contract. They contacted me so I'm assuming they are aware of my honesty 🍻