DIY Speaker With Subwoofer Hits Down to 35 Hz! - DINAS - Active Bookshelf Speakers Collab w/ 123Toid

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DIY Speaker With Subwoofer Hits Down to 35 Hz! - DINAS - Active Bookshelf Speakers Collab w/ 123Toid.
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This DIY speaker build was interesting in that we challenged ourselves to try something different. We went with a 3-Way DIY Active Speaker based on another DIY subwoofer called the Voxel by Paul Carmody. The plate amplifiers we used are generally used for a DIY 2.1 speaker system but instead, we decided to use one amp per speaker.
The plans are available on 123Toid's Etsy: bit.ly/DinasBuildPlans
Here are the parts used:
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Lepai LP210PA - bit.ly/LepaiLP210PAJNT
19V 4.74A Power Supply - bit.ly/19voltPSU
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  • @Toid
    @Toid5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Joe! I'm glad you are enjoying the DINAS. Amazing review. it was an honor and a great experience working with you.

  • @GRAAmusic

    @GRAAmusic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a pair more and ship to denmark :)

  • @Toid

    @Toid

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@GRAAmusic haha, I'm not sure that Denmark would be very cost-effective. However I have had a few people buy the plans overseas and they're having other people build the cabinets for them. So that's always an option

  • @GRAAmusic

    @GRAAmusic

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Toid I will do that then. :) love the build.

  • @hennno1136

    @hennno1136

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Can you make a Video how a completely Passive Version Sound Look like? ( the Crossover)

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm not planning on it since this was designed to be active. I'm sure it could be done. Just need to properly crossover the woofer to the full-range driver.

  • @SoonerPride777
    @SoonerPride7775 жыл бұрын

    This looks like such a fun project. I’m already envisioning little tweaks and personalizations I could do, like maybe cutting out a little scoop on top for that tweeter B&W style. Thanks Joe and Toid for contributing something that I’m sure is going to make a lot of people really happy!

  • @blancacontreras6722

    @blancacontreras6722

    5 жыл бұрын

    MARCELA

  • @blancacontreras6722

    @blancacontreras6722

    5 жыл бұрын

    MARCELA JUDITh vdnsdhd

  • @nathanwells3547
    @nathanwells35475 жыл бұрын

    This is Amazing!!! Exactly what I've been looking for and would be nice for a project too.

  • @ChristopherGaul
    @ChristopherGaul5 жыл бұрын

    Nice speakers. Good work guys. Though you have me wondering how they'd do with a chamferred port instead of a slot.

  • @Giblet535
    @Giblet5354 жыл бұрын

    Now I've gotta build these. They look great. As for volume, you could wire a Linkwitz-Riley 3-way active crossover into those amplifiers w/o much work. At 24db/octave rollover, it should reduce the distortion noticeably, but it will cost another $200. It won't be louder, but it will sound louder than they do without the crossovers. I did that with 3-way JBL Pro speakers and a Denon 5803 AVR (6 x 170W MOSFETs), replacing a nightmare passive crossover & a pair of jacked-up and bridged Hafler amps. The max SPL didn't really change: 117db at 1M now, vs 116db with passive, but it sounds a LOT louder, a lot cleaner, w/ a lot of low-end gut-punch.

  • @riteshdhoot7
    @riteshdhoot75 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome. Very very interesting. Amazing job Joe. Thanks for the video, as always. Because of such crazy awesome videos, this is one of my toplist favourite channel on KZread ..

  • @bond4177
    @bond41774 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic job guys!! Reminds my of my Avantone Abbey's, get really really low for their size. Love to see more bookshelf 3 ways.

  • @AMPTechGrade
    @AMPTechGrade2 жыл бұрын

    this is the kinda setup I wanted to build, LOVE IT! Unfortunately I'm stuck in apartment living so I'll be sticking a 6 inch woofer down below, but this just gives me SO MANY Ideas

  • @danaquino7915
    @danaquino79154 жыл бұрын

    With my space and budget constraints, this is exactly what i'm looking for. Even the wood design matches the rest of my house! I love it. Please take my money!

  • @spedracer55
    @spedracer555 жыл бұрын

    I LITERALLY NEED THESE IN MY LIFE

  • @skandiaart
    @skandiaart5 жыл бұрын

    Tang band drivers are underrated as shit. I worked with and listen to a lot of higher end drivers (Seas Excel, Scan-Speak, vifa/peerless, accuton etc) and Tang bands are damn good for their price.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that's good to hear coming from someone who seems to have a good amount of experience with different drivers.

  • @stefanweilhartner4415

    @stefanweilhartner4415

    2 ай бұрын

    wavecor is another company that reaches the quality of seas excel, scan speak but at a lower price point. they also have interesting tweeter with a waveguide which gives you a better time alignment

  • @seangarrison3515
    @seangarrison35155 жыл бұрын

    This is a great job guys. Well done for the use case. Tempted to build for desktop speakers.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I haven't heard anything better at my desk.

  • @tacoman1020
    @tacoman10205 жыл бұрын

    listening to this on my own set of DIY DINAS! I decided to build mine without the tweeter they still sound great.

  • @davido810
    @davido8105 жыл бұрын

    Great looking speakers! I wish I had the means to build these myself! It would be a very fun project.

  • @Nothingtoya

    @Nothingtoya

    5 жыл бұрын

    Follow the links, someone is making the panels, all you have to do is glue it together. $100

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think that's @123toid.

  • @altairfoo1920
    @altairfoo19204 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic build. Love it.

  • @jeffsloane8628
    @jeffsloane86284 жыл бұрын

    Great video Joe. I love the design criteria and execution.

  • @Genius51511
    @Genius515115 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you for this information I've have been wanting too builf some my self Thanks

  • @rationalcapitalist
    @rationalcapitalist5 жыл бұрын

    Cool DIY speakers. If you could review RBH Sound Impression series bookshelves sometime that would be awesome. They're in the price range of the speakers you review and are supposed to be really solid speakers.

  • @BROSANCHEZTVOFFICIAL
    @BROSANCHEZTVOFFICIAL5 жыл бұрын

    Man I wish I could buy these already assembled

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    That would be awesome huh. Maybe one day. @123toid offers a flat pack so you don't need to cut the would. Just glue everything together, paint it and wire it up.

  • @knightrulz2

    @knightrulz2

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joentell I would totally be interested in a flat pack for these? @123toid how do I get ahold of these?

  • @MichaelEvansGeo
    @MichaelEvansGeo5 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a tower version of these.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    🤔🤔🤔

  • @erikkroll2154

    @erikkroll2154

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I was thinking of building a tower with 4 of these in each box. 72 mm xmax and almost the same cone area as a 15".

  • @nikhilsuryawanshi6301

    @nikhilsuryawanshi6301

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joentell how u listen this in stereo mode ....... 2.1 ch in amp in each side ..... Both left and right ch is in same side of each 2.1 ch 😂 .......... Then How u listen in stereo mode ......... I have a solution ...... Each 3.5 mm jack have .. LGR wire .... Provide LG wire only on left side Amp And RG wire only on right side Amp

  • @saqui2323
    @saqui23235 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review because I just ordered some of those subs

  • @tannermeyers
    @tannermeyers5 жыл бұрын

    You’re awesome, Joe! I don’t know how you have the time and ideas for your videos, but I really appreciate them. Thank you!

  • @HEARDIFFERENT
    @HEARDIFFERENT4 жыл бұрын

    My non commercial dream speakers.!!! I would really love to hear the music that upload in those BEASTS.!!! Those speakers include so much passion in them...!!!

  • @riteshdhoot7
    @riteshdhoot75 жыл бұрын

    0:02 - No no no, Joe .. Your sorry is not accepted .. I'm being greedy here .. Post such amazing amazing amazing videos as frequently as possible .. Just kidding, never mind .. But truly, you are doing a great job. And once again thank you and keep posting ..

  • @BusyDadsWorkshop
    @BusyDadsWorkshop5 жыл бұрын

    Nice Collab! I may need to put these on my project list!

  • @Toid

    @Toid

    5 жыл бұрын

    If only you knew the designer...

  • @stevenswall
    @stevenswall5 жыл бұрын

    Makes me want to build a speaker again! Does this hiss at all? (Disconnect your inputs to test to make sure it's not them.)

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very quiet

  • @timothystockman7533
    @timothystockman75335 жыл бұрын

    I built a speaker for use with my Icom IC-7100 radio which uses a Dayton RS100-4. Many ham operators use cheap, 2-way speakers with their radios, but I wanted a single driver which could cover the entire range of the human voice with no crossover. The speaker I built using the RS100-4 is the best sounding communications speaker I've ever heard. It even sounds good with the IC-3100 tuned to FM broadcast! I'm sure the RS100-4 works great in your DINAS, because it keeps the crossover out of the all-important mid-range band.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing that. It seems like a successful project.

  • @trog69
    @trog695 жыл бұрын

    I would have built a pair of these for that wonderful bass, but I got my hands on a pair of ADS L810's that I have on this desktop and they're easily the best-sounding speakers I've ever heard. I was told they were used as monitors back in the day. Same 35htz bottom end, and 3-way. But, slightly more expensive than these DINAS. Great job.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Those are much larger also

  • @feeterican
    @feeterican5 жыл бұрын

    Dude, When I built my first cabinets back in 92' I made them with the slotted port at the bottom. Being I was only 16 at the time I never saw anyone use this method and now I see it a lot. Also, back then people thought I was crazy to use Birch ply for the cabinets and now I see a lot of people doing that as well. I know I didn't start anything but man, it sure feels that way.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! Maybe you have good instincts.

  • @johnbewty

    @johnbewty

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's also soooo much easier to get a decent looking finish with birch instead of MDF.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@johnbewty MDF sucks to finish. You have to seal it really well first. I've done some high gloss finishes, but it took me days.

  • @mariobastidas3102

    @mariobastidas3102

    5 жыл бұрын

    You did it first bro! I believe you!

  • @airgliderz

    @airgliderz

    5 жыл бұрын

    I had birch plyskeamers I made in the early 80s, nothing new.

  • @kimkelvin
    @kimkelvin5 жыл бұрын

    would perfect if this has balanced TRS or XLR

  • @victor2410
    @victor24105 жыл бұрын

    It is good you were able to get the interviews to cushion the blow of less reviews during your move. Good luck with it, hopefully you enjoy the new space you get!!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, exactly. And thank you!

  • @edjackson4389
    @edjackson43893 жыл бұрын

    I'm late getting to this build, but GREAT JOB! I build speakers all the time, and I usually go against the grain with them. Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @WEED-love-444
    @WEED-love-4444 жыл бұрын

    Bell is on 🔔🔔🔔 First I see the "kid rock ct 276" now I think it's better to spend lil bit more money and build your speakers! THX für die Offenbarung 🔊🔊🔊

  • @lilgash7348
    @lilgash73483 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had this polk audio sound bar with what I believe to be a 6” subwoofer. For being such a small driver, this sub really shows out... I’ve had to take pictures, paintings, etc. off of the wall in the room just because of how bad it would rattle. Impressive for a 6 inch subwoofer, yes, but still not comparable to a much larger driver such as a 12”.... the highs and miss of the sound bar are impressive as well, and can get almost too loud, but yet I find it rare to be ear piercing. Nothing but good review for a somewhat inexpensive Polk sound bar and sub. 👌🏻

  • @AudioElectronicsChicago
    @AudioElectronicsChicago4 жыл бұрын

    35hz, impressive

  • @ChrisBucanac
    @ChrisBucanac5 жыл бұрын

    These Speakers look great and seem to be really awesome! Just started looking into DYO speakers. How is the usability as Studio monitors? Do you have a chance to compare them to Adams or Focals? Or would you rate them as Hifi Speaker?

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've rated them for desktop use and for use as bookshelf speakers on my speaker leaderboard. Did you get to see that part of the video? I haven't tested Focals or Adam.

  • @mcjonner
    @mcjonner5 жыл бұрын

    They look great and a nice looking response and I really like the name.

  • @LifeofBliss
    @LifeofBliss5 жыл бұрын

    Those look awesome man! Very cool that you guys ventured into building something from the ground up. Very impressive

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a big compliment from a guy who does his own countertops! Those came out great btw.

  • @LifeofBliss

    @LifeofBliss

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@joentell Ha! Thanks man! DIY stuff is so much fun... I seriously might have to look into building these later this year when I get a few other projects done. I do need some computer speakers... you guys really pulled off a great looking setup. I'm sure they sound awesome

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure those 3 x 24" woofers got you spoiled, but these hit for a desk situation. I'm sure you would appreciate that they do for their size.

  • @lm6036
    @lm60365 жыл бұрын

    have not been online for a while. But damn. Well done guys! Looking insane !

  • @evilwoodchuck
    @evilwoodchuck4 жыл бұрын

    You should really rate the HSU HB1 Mk2 on your leaderboard. I would love to see where they land! Keep in mind they do require some break in, but damn they sound amazing with good power. I use a Bryston 3b with them.

  • @blech71
    @blech714 жыл бұрын

    I still run speedsters by Paul Carmody and I even have run them in MTM T-Lines. I love Paul’s designs. Glad to hear you guys taking it a step further. The drivers are pretty awesome.

  • @vasileiostsalkos6174
    @vasileiostsalkos61745 жыл бұрын

    An excellent build.

  • @OswaldoAgurto
    @OswaldoAgurto5 жыл бұрын

    What a really nice and informative channel i just found! Excellent work Joe. You have the best speaker reviews and comparison I have seen. Very down to earth, enough for us interested in quality, but close enough to what average people like me would understand, not inside the audiophile difficult to understand niche. Have you seen Doug Demuro? you could create a JoeNscore to make your leaderboard a bit more easily comparable when it gets more and more speakers. Greetings from South America!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey thank you! I try my best to make it entertaining and informative. I used to do a weighted rating system, but it took a long time to do. I might bring it back someday.

  • @Fine_art_aerial
    @Fine_art_aerial Жыл бұрын

    Great video!! How do you think these would hold up next to the hivi 3.1 diy kit?? I built a pair a couple years ago and LOVE them!! Looking for something to replace my desktop speakers and thought these would be a good fit

  • @rykerhasyounow
    @rykerhasyounow3 жыл бұрын

    Great build. Fantastic results guys. I think a nice big scallop between the tweeter and the mid might help with increasing listening sweet spot.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea!

  • @chasevineland1508
    @chasevineland15085 жыл бұрын

    Awesome build!!!

  • @Enemji
    @Enemji5 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Jones will be proud of you!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would hope so

  • @Mani-aX
    @Mani-aX5 жыл бұрын

    this is awesome! i'm geeking out!

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix5 жыл бұрын

    My yamaha floorstanders hit to 29Hz, and yes you DO need a tweeter, never rely on a midbass driver to deliver proper treble, its not happening. these lepai plate amps could be the perfect solution to desktop audio though.

  • @TheTechGuyYT

    @TheTechGuyYT

    4 жыл бұрын

    No you don't need a tweeter , a Great full range speaker will do just that Fullrange , Look at Fostex drivers for instance or TangBand .

  • @cekpi7

    @cekpi7

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheTechGuyYT "never rely on midbass driver to deliver proper treble" Midbass drivers rarely go over 5khz, even good fullrange driver like you mentioned start to drop off over 16khz but due to nature of our ears we barely notice it. 2 Way vs full range will always be better.

  • @endall39
    @endall395 жыл бұрын

    What is the response curve without the tweeter? I'm interested in building as a 2-way. Thx!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good question. I don't know. 123Toid would know

  • @dennyblazer1167
    @dennyblazer11675 жыл бұрын

    They look like my powered B&Ws i haven't heard anything like my B&W they are pricey but they sound good.

  • @dnate697
    @dnate6975 жыл бұрын

    This without a doubt your best and most useful videos because I've seen a similar but larger build compared to this. Birch kicks the crap out of MDF because Birch could get it done without bracing. No, that tweeter (I've used in two builds) the screen about even with the front. I didn't nail mine down and moved it around.

  • @dnate697

    @dnate697

    2 жыл бұрын

    @slow mazda Wood does matter and it has NOTHING to do with pores LOL! Again. Hard Woods DO NOT NEED to be BRACED in 90% of their installs or applications. Even Pro Cabinets like Markbass, Orange, Fender, Mesa, Ampeg, and etc. DON'T brace or deaden their enclosures. Yes, I've heard the BS from KEF fanboys.

  • @StanTheObserver-lo8rx
    @StanTheObserver-lo8rx5 жыл бұрын

    Would it be worth it to swap the Altec Lansing 6" subwoofer on my old 2004 MX5021 with tang or even Dayton version? Or is that a can of worms blending it in? I like my old mini system..but that bass could be tighter.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure what the bottleneck is on that system. It could be the amplifier.

  • @petert2922

    @petert2922

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have done just that on my Altec ADA 995 sub. Replaced both drivers with 2x Peerless 830946 drivers. It was good before, now its insane. It doesnt do 35 Hz simply because the ports are not tuned for that, they are tuned for 40 Hz. But it has so much power at that frequency that its making all doors and windows vibrate viciously. The bedroom door I believe it hits its resonant frequency, vibrates louder than the sub is playing, so if I were to play a 40hz tone loud enough for long enough, that door would eventually rip itself off the hinges. In short, stock Altec drivers are nowhere near as good as Tangbands, so upgrading them with something decent, produces a tremendous jump in quality and quantity of bass. DO IT.

  • @MrShadownoise

    @MrShadownoise

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have MX5021 2.1 which I use for TV sound. The built-in amp died (they all do and are impossible to repair due to insane digital tone, balance and volume controls), so I replaced it with one of these 2.1 amps. It is far better than the original Altec Lansing amp - much cleaner, more powerful sound, and surprisingly loses most of the treble harshness. I left the sub and satellite speakers as they were, just removed the old amp and transformer from the sub box, threw away the wired controlled, and fixed the new plate amp in the old hole. Well worth doing.

  • @minkorrh
    @minkorrh4 жыл бұрын

    Dude! You did such a beautiful job on the cabinets and then stuffed a lepai amp into it. Should have put a gainclone kit in it.....maybe a little more work but stellar sound. Nice job regardless.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can't take credit for the woodwork. That's all @123toid

  • @sandman900rr
    @sandman900rr2 жыл бұрын

    Just hit up the whole parts list and build plans thru your links!! Can't wait to get these built.

  • @graphictrance5851
    @graphictrance58514 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see you do a design that uses a passive radiator on top

  • @khorimcdaniel8714
    @khorimcdaniel87144 жыл бұрын

    Hey Joe thanks for the review.....enjoyed it....I would like to make these on a larger scale for recording studio reference speakers. could you point me in the right direction of parts I would need for a similar outcome. Thanks

  • @loominal2009
    @loominal20095 жыл бұрын

    These Speakers are awesome! Toid123 better start taking orders!

  • @Toid

    @Toid

    5 жыл бұрын

    For you, I'll take an order for ;)

  • @skewty
    @skewty4 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a D.I.Y. speaker project with built-in amplification and DSP for correction. Especially with (sub-)woofer protection; louder volumes dial down the bass and low volumes allow accentuation to flatten the frequency response.

  • @LorenzoLiteFlowFurlanetto
    @LorenzoLiteFlowFurlanetto5 жыл бұрын

    "...they're not the flattest sounding speakers in the world..." really?! +/- 5-6dB from 55hz to 20k? I've seen studio monitors with a far nastier response curve honestly! That graph looks great if it's legit! Great job!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    It ain't bad...that's for sure. I tend to play stuff down a bit just because there's always a speaker out there that does something better. Thanks for noticing though.

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher36625 жыл бұрын

    for any Australians, the total cost for the build including shipping comes to $575 Aud

  • @mrinfinitemonkeycage5668

    @mrinfinitemonkeycage5668

    4 жыл бұрын

    Champion....cheers

  • @andrewskaterrr
    @andrewskaterrr5 жыл бұрын

    I really want these but I have an Alesis RA-100 for power. Would be interested in a passive version.

  • @SoonerPride777
    @SoonerPride7775 жыл бұрын

    I’m still not sold on that RS100 for the midrange when you’ve got it sandwiched between a great (sub) woofer and tweeter. I’ve heard it’s a fantastic speaker, but there are tons of great 2-4” options that I think could be a little cheaper and get you a flatter response through the mids. Of course then you’re stuck working out a crossover, which could eat up any money you saved real quick. Hopefully I can build a pair myself soon and do some experimenting! That’s what diy speakers are all about, right?

  • @BogdanSerban

    @BogdanSerban

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can you recommend such alternatives? I'm interested.

  • @vincentkoster6291

    @vincentkoster6291

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. The RS100 is a good fullrange but there are better ones out there. Lately, I feel like it is getting more and more transparant that 123toid is on Parts Express' payroll. Not sure how to feel about that to be honest....

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's not on their payroll! Lol. Some of you jump to these conclusions a bit too fast. He clearly states as I do that we get stuff for free from some of these companies in exchange for a review of that product. We also can set up an account with a 3rd party to receive a TINY commission for each product sold using our affiliate link. We ain't getting rich over here buddy. Speaking for myself, I support the channel more than it supports me. I've worked for free for the first year. If you're enjoying the videos, just enjoy them and don't wrongfully accuse people of being on the "payroll" when they aren't. It's a bit of an insult. I've been my own boss for 15+ years. I am not on anyone's payroll because I don't want anyone telling me what to do. 👊🙏

  • @SoonerPride777

    @SoonerPride777

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bogdan Serban I’d start with the Dayton TCP115 to see how a $10 woofer would compare. If that didn’t work I’d try the DS115, DA115, DS90, or DSA90 if I wanted to stick with Dayton in the $20 range (which I probably would). You could also try the Peerless SLS-85S25CP04-04 or Fountek FW100B, also under $20.

  • @SoonerPride777

    @SoonerPride777

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vincent Koster I mentioned this same point on an earlier video and it was Joe that said he just really liked the look of the RS100, so I’m not sure that was Toid’s doing entirely. And I really like Dayton and Parts Express, for what it’s worth, and they’ve never paid me anything. They’re just easy to work with because they have tons of options, they’re generally well made, and they publish all the specs you could want making them very easy to model. Parts Express has a fantastic website, huge catalogue, and great service. It’s just as likely in my mind that 123toid likes Daytons and Parts Express for the same reasons I like them, and nothing more.

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell4934 жыл бұрын

    Oh great, now I want to make some. Suggestion for a wicked midrange: a full range Faital pro. Just use it as a mid crossed over where you need. Total transparency like a scan speak. Very low cost , especially for how good it is.

  • @kencohagen4967
    @kencohagen49673 жыл бұрын

    Paper speake cones are tough to beat. There have been many different materials used in woofers over the years, but paper is still the top choice of most builders. Now this is kind of an interest design for another reason, besides what the commentator tells us. I have several drivers I’ve bought for other projects, but I never completed them for various reasons. So, I’ve got some Dayton Audio 10” inch woofers. I’ve also got a pair of Silver Flute 6.5” mid woofers I was going to put in my car. But after the original speakers were broken in I didn’t need them fir my car. I can use those down to 50Hz. With the active crossover of this system I can cross them anywhere they sound the best. I’ve lost got a pair of 2” dome midrange made by Peerless in the 80’s, but mine are in great shape and sound awesome. The only thing I don’t have are tweeters. I do have a pair of Peerless rectangle snapped some tweeters that I used with this some mids, but they just don’t have that extra something. I like the tweeters he uses here. So I might use the same drivers h uses here and use the 10” woofers to reinforce the bass of the desk speakers, but that’s something that I’ll have to figure our in the room I’m going to use them in. I could always sell the 10” woofers to help fund this build, so, we’ll see how thing’s pan out, but I could theoretically build a set of four way speakers with these, a pair of towers with labyrinth patrician for the very low frequencies, a pair of silver flats from 100hz to 1000 Hz, the dome mids from 1000 Hz p to where ever the tweeters will come in and then the tweeters. I could save the silver flutes for rear channel surrounds using the same tweeters as the Dinas. Or I could use to hem on top of the dinas to widen the soundstage up front. It could bud a lot of fun to figure out!

  • @AaronAlso
    @AaronAlso4 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the Tang Band W6-1139SI (6.5") paired with the Dayton Audio RS100-4 and Peerless BC25SC06-04. I built them in a D'Appolito configuration with amazing results; no extra subwoofers required.

  • @chickenmcnugget5965
    @chickenmcnugget59655 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this interesting video. 35 Hz is not just a challenge for bookshelf speakers but even for most other speakers in general. However, what means 35 Hz? At what noise level? By the way, the Dynaudio Crafft is still a great sounding benchmark for bookshelf speakers being able to show no significant drop down at 50 Hz

  • @emppu-tech6065

    @emppu-tech6065

    5 жыл бұрын

    -3db.

  • @ronsoloplz
    @ronsoloplz5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Joe! Brilliant collab here, absolutely love it. In fact I was just about to buy a pair of ai60 but I might go with the Dinas instead. One problem though, I'm following all the links to get the parts for this build but I can't find the speaker enclosure. Any help with this?

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    You have to either build it yourself or contact 123Toid on his Etsy. He will be selling pre-cut parts soon.

  • @ronsoloplz

    @ronsoloplz

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@joentell Perfect! My friend and I will be picking up a pair of all the parts for this build. We were hoping you two had plans to sell the enclosure too. Exciting stuff, thanks Joe!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ask 123toid on his Etsy. I know he's been mentioning selling the cut wood also.

  • @Toid

    @Toid

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ronsoloplz. I am not sure if you heard, but the enclosures are for sale on my Etsy TD Audio

  • @Bplems
    @Bplems5 жыл бұрын

    Dope!!!!!!

  • @marruiz
    @marruiz4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Joe! I´m a big fun of your channel, Learning a lot from you.Good stuff !! A question my friend: What do you thing about opposed subwoofer drivers for DINAS? (like the Bearfoot Sound ones). Im planning to build a pair of DINAS with two Tang Bang in each side oppossed in a sealed cabin. Your advice would be great! Cheers Marco

  • @ddlyman
    @ddlyman5 жыл бұрын

    is there a detailed build video for these speakers? they are absolutely amazing

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've seen the plan and they're pretty detailed. Also, @123toid can respond to any of your build questions.

  • @jesseainslie2404
    @jesseainslie24045 жыл бұрын

    Great Job on those bookshelfs 😎👌🏽

  • @droidzhunterz6861
    @droidzhunterz68614 жыл бұрын

    Well done guys. Now on to the mark II

  • @johnbewty
    @johnbewty5 жыл бұрын

    This is cool and I want one. Those TB woofers are beasts! The dual plate amp design makes a ton of sense. I might be able to build these later this year.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure someone will find a reason why using dual plate amps is a "terrible" idea. LOL.

  • @commentcommenter3529

    @commentcommenter3529

    5 жыл бұрын

    Joe N Tell Expense. Thats the reason why its a terrible idea. Other than that, good job

  • @commentcommenter3529

    @commentcommenter3529

    5 жыл бұрын

    Joe N Tell Panalong panalo.

  • @chasevineland1508
    @chasevineland15085 жыл бұрын

    I think this will create a new trend. Bookshelves that can truly hit low.

  • @Toid

    @Toid

    5 жыл бұрын

    I hope so. We need it!

  • @__-fm5qv

    @__-fm5qv

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Toid Made a similar 2 way build with the same woofer and a similar port last summer. So seeing this sorta thing become a trend is really cool imo!

  • @Toid

    @Toid

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@__-fm5qv That is awesome! Glad to see that you thought of it as well!

  • @overnightdelivery
    @overnightdelivery3 жыл бұрын

    Cool idea having a 3 way speaker that reliably handles a full range of frequencies. Is it setup so every driver crosses over and none of the drivers play the same frequency range? Would be a dream speaker for smaller rooms, not needing a sub and having less clutter in an office.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, we made sure the crossover points were smooth and complimentary. The crossover for the woofer is adjustable as is the level.

  • @toopetauno5852
    @toopetauno58525 жыл бұрын

    Hi Joe! Id like to see u make a test video from some Genelec speakers!

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would too!

  • @BrasspineappleProductions
    @BrasspineappleProductions4 жыл бұрын

    I have listened to literally thousands of different speakers over the past 30 years or so, And these are a absolutely stellar! anything else in this realm seldom get lower the 45HZ for woofers.

  • @aug.jam.1

    @aug.jam.1

    Жыл бұрын

    Have you made these too?

  • @BrasspineappleProductions

    @BrasspineappleProductions

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aug.jam.1 I have put together similar versions with comparable hardware, but not these exact builds.

  • @aug.jam.1

    @aug.jam.1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BrasspineappleProductions ok, I was thinking about just that, because I´d actually would like to make similar ones but instead passive speakers as I already have a decent amplifier. Thanks

  • @BrasspineappleProductions

    @BrasspineappleProductions

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aug.jam.1 I would recommend experimental builds to evaluate comparisons.

  • @mymockumentary9716
    @mymockumentary97165 жыл бұрын

    I'm salivating.... audioporn

  • @d3tach3d
    @d3tach3d5 жыл бұрын

    These little things are beasts!

  • @davidhoover2446
    @davidhoover24465 жыл бұрын

    I use the same woofers in my truck. With cabin gain I have them tuned up to go from 0 to -10 DB from 80 to 18 Hertz. My guess was pretty good because they sound awesome and will play any kind of music at a good volume. The drop incredibly low and sound very realistic for such a low price.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap! I also want to use these as subs for my van. How many are you using. I was thinking 5 would do the trick. 😉

  • @PDRIFT86

    @PDRIFT86

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to know more on your setup. I use 2 6.5 TBs in a box in my car. They sound pretty good considering it was just a test box i made. I just like seeing how others are using TBs in their cars.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to know more about your setup! 😊

  • @bobkeller8383
    @bobkeller83834 жыл бұрын

    I would like these in a non powered version and a sealed sub rather than ported

  • @pas0003
    @pas00033 жыл бұрын

    Really cool! Awesome video and build!

  • @DesChew
    @DesChew4 жыл бұрын

    Nice sharing. I wonder if we can have something smaller in size for the overall gadget? Probably compromising sub-woofer with a higher frequency like 40-45Hz? smaller than the 5"1/4" inch that you use. Anyway, it's inspiring to see your video. Good job!

  • @christopherglisson
    @christopherglisson5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome as usual Joe, Redditor u/Darksol503 here, salamat po! on the work, research, build, and review of these. I really enjoyed the video and once I come around to my first DIY bookshelves, I've decide this is the route I am going 100%. I may even hold off on a pair of Ai60 (though I will HAVE TO go white cabinets for my DINAS if I do) that I was planning on picking up because a DIY project sounds like a ton of fun! Thanks again for another great video and review, and I hope your move from retail to full time online presence and KZreadr works out! ✊🏽

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🙏 Please keep me up to date with your build. I love white speakers.

  • @xilebat
    @xilebat5 жыл бұрын

    a build video of these would be awesome.

  • @juicesanchez1
    @juicesanchez14 жыл бұрын

    Awesome build you guys! I purchased the build plans and the parts for it today. Curious to know what's the weight on the speakers?

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not sure exactly. Let me know how you like them once they're finished

  • @PeterTaylorRX
    @PeterTaylorRX5 жыл бұрын

    Great concept and fair quality for the money. I have to admit it is not for the general public since you have to build it yourself + powered (so you most likely you them as monitors speakers) and you need to split the signal for stereo. This is what I think they don't really compare to towers or other bookshelves like the SVS Ultra or Wharfedale because those are mostly meant to be used in living rooms for HiFi or Home Theater listening. I don't really see the DINAS anywhere but a desk.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would say they will work for two-channel audio, but not for a home theater. Most devices have an analog RCA out or a 3.5mm jack which can be converted to RCA. It is typically only video sources that have a signal that needs to be decoded from DTS or Dolby Digital etc. Even then, you could get a $20 optical to RCA converter on Amazon. Some even have remotes. I've even seen HDMI extractors that split the video and audio signal and converts the audio signal to analog.

  • @Toid

    @Toid

    5 жыл бұрын

    They would be really nice for surround sound. Especially if your receiver has a preout. Just hookup the RCA preout straight to the side of the amplifier that you hooked up the speaker to. You will be set. I used it this way in my living room with great success.

  • @RdandTrk1
    @RdandTrk12 жыл бұрын

    For some reason that "Amazing Bass" song killed me. I laughed at that way harder than I probably should have.

  • @datdudeinred
    @datdudeinred4 жыл бұрын

    Probably the cutest little beasts I've seen in speaker game

  • @mdoh8209
    @mdoh82094 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos joe great work love the details and honesty you give your videos hopefully soon u can put these on the market I would buy them 👍

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    4 жыл бұрын

    @123toid sells the plans and flat pack kits. I haven't made anything off these unfortunately. ☺️ Maybe next time.

  • @mdoh8209

    @mdoh8209

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joe N Tell hopefully one day u can have your name on a pair, I would totally invest in some for my support to u great work joe 👌👌👌

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think that can be a reality one day. I have some ideas.

  • @hellobooom
    @hellobooom4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you put a tweeter in as I find the RS100 to sound quite unpleasant up high.

  • @roygriend5143
    @roygriend51435 жыл бұрын

    Why they "only" go down to 50 hz(in flat mode). Is it the amp responce or are these speakers tuned to 50 hz. Good design by the way, I wanted to make a 3 way speaker with the TB but a lot of crossover calculations did make me skip the project. This project is more DIY friendly. Nice Speakers 😃

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think it has more to do with how the speaker itself responds as well as how it's tuned.

  • @pawfan
    @pawfan2 жыл бұрын

    Are you in your new location? Would love to see an official demo in your new place. That would be encouraging. Meanwhile, thanks for the encouragement on using this model plate amp.

  • @danielhernandezdsigner5308
    @danielhernandezdsigner53084 жыл бұрын

    Hey Joe! Just got to your channel and your stuff is amazing specially since I've been tumbling around with audio and all that good stuff !! I also have a question. ¿Could I use this build as a flat response home studio monitor?

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    4 жыл бұрын

    There are more accurate studio monitors, bit this is the most fun. Bass is insane.

  • @vcp93
    @vcp935 жыл бұрын

    "...there's more to a speaker than bass" Does that really require stating? I guess it depends on what music you listen to. I'd be interested in seeing someone who reviews commercially produced speakers compare something like this to some of the more known branded speakers. This idea is definitely "food for thought". Great video, thanks.

  • @attainableaudio4533

    @attainableaudio4533

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm assuming you mean some of the bigger name reviews, as how does do reviews of comercial speakers....

  • @vcp93

    @vcp93

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@attainableaudio4533 Exactly, I didn't phrase it very well, but that's what I was trying to convey.

  • @tedjones112
    @tedjones1125 жыл бұрын

    I'd LOVE to have a pair of these......except I'm too Lazy to Build them.......

  • @caixasgames6691
    @caixasgames66915 жыл бұрын

    Muito belo👏👏👏👏👏

  • @TaxCattle4CorruptDeepState
    @TaxCattle4CorruptDeepState5 жыл бұрын

    What a cool project. Would a non straight or toothed port edge make turbulence and get rid of the chuffing? Would like to see a group delay measurement if someone made one. He should sell the cabinets on Amazon or Ebay.

  • @BrodeyDoverosx
    @BrodeyDoverosx5 жыл бұрын

    My dual W5-1138 subwoofer has a slotted port. I’ve been using slot ports for over 14 years in all of my designs.

  • @joentell

    @joentell

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, slotted ports aren't new. They are just a variation of the port on that Voxel subwoofer we based some of this build on.

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