DIY ROOF: RAFTER'S BIRD MOUTHS
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Possibly the most satisfiying part of the roof yet.... installing the rafters. Due to the width of the roof, we had to use 2 rafters rather than 1. Bottom rafter needed Bird's Mouths cut so as to rest on the wall plate installed way back when. As long as you keep the depth and angle roughly the same throughout, it's fairly simple. Once nailed to the wall plate, we cut off the ugly feet. Once started, these when up really quickly, mostly down to a lot of measuring in earlier stages.
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Your skill and accuracy with the hand saw amazes me.
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Bonsoir les gars ! Je suis du début votre travail de maître ! Tout écrit en Anglais ... Puis j'ai vu l'immatriculation du 4 x 4 dans le 32 !!! Le pays des canards !!! En tout cas , chapeau ! Félicitations d'un admirateur du 38 ! Georges
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Good work father and son combination makes life easier
thank you so much, GREAT TIPS using the mitre saw to cut bird mouths. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful Craftsmanship
Agree with the others. Loving the workmanship and care with quality work
I'm enjoying your videos. It's time for you to make more!
Lovely place you have there, nice project!
Nice work. Looks good.
Nice job on a great old building! I'm wondering if you guys added a second sistered rafter spanner & spacer block for the connection between old work and new?
Use old radial arm saw on edge to cut the Steep angle on the other end. 12" . No guard. Hand saw the remaining depth if required:)
Love the sticky note!! Lol!
@edymolina2801
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
Excellent work.
awesome!!! so nice and clean!!! perfect!
Couldn't you have clamped a few rafters together and done the first cut with a skilsaw perhaps?
I have always liked the idea of notching the beams together. Taking a little notch out of boats beams where ever they cross and banging a nail straight through where they are notched together. Always hated a messy nail in the side
It looks good Carl. I have changed all my joists and after acrow propping the sagging rafters I have been able to insert struts to keep the shape. A lot of that is after watching how you guys have been working.
@carlroge
6 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that Addison! What's next on the agenda?
Happy New year to you too, mate!
Nice work!
Great work. Thank you for sharing.
belo trabalho amigo parabens
Thank you for the video, it helps me a lot!
Very good work
Could you measure the angle of the other cut, use miter instead of hand?
You guys make all of this wood look like it's light af when it really isnt. And i don't mean just in this video. Like even the other vids with the beams an what not
buenos videos construccion work#1
Um Belo trabalho 👏👏👏
Ah, making like Peter Mayle's "Year in Provence" in the Aquitaine?
Great job Carl!!! How long do you think would it take to do this job, if doing it full time?
Nice work.
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
Sempre fico fascinada com trabalhos em madeira.
@johnycharlitte459
10 ай бұрын
Saludo amigita
Your skills, work ethic and energy levels not to mention all the results are very inspiring. Your videos are addictive and very enjoyable. One question :- What wood are you using for the rafters, is it a type of Cedar?
@wordimobi5765
2 жыл бұрын
In France, probably pine.
Thank-you
Using oak for roof structures 👀You won't see much of this nowadays. Also, the thickness of wood used. This roof will outlive everyone who watches this video D:
Great video, thanks
Looks robust! Are you using such timbers to support the clay tile roof?
Genial.¡Gracias por compartir!
Now that's work , I saw a portable band saw that would have made short work out of those beams
@fredgrosso1657
3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I saw a guy on an episode of This Old House using one to cut the designed shapes on the ends of the big beams for a pergola. It worked awesome!
Great video - really enjoyed it and very informative and helpful.
What a surprise to discover your videos about the restoration of our former house! Good job but what a job! Congratulations! Your videos are good too :-). Darees Familly.
@aoibheannnibhroin9951
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, you found a fool who to sell your rotten house to. Now, when he fixed the roof, you are biting your fingers, thinking why you didn't ask cash a little bit more. You sold the house and leave the new owner alone!
Bello lavoro amico.
Beautiful place!! That my kind of architectures!! ;:-)).
Thx for the vid. I think Medieval times if you were a bad boy you were sent to the basement to cut bird mouths...but at least you had a cold beer :)
Your location looks like the set of an old Clint Eastwood western movie.
@romeomartinez685
3 жыл бұрын
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@romeomartinez685
3 жыл бұрын
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Excelent video! Like 👍 from România 😉 🍷
See how Larry Hon makes the house, it shows in detail how quickly and easier to prepare the rafters
@WelshRabbit
4 жыл бұрын
That Larry Haun -- one whack from Larry and the nail disappears into the wood. He was the master of the worm-drive circular saw.
Like the beer
love love, love,the old stone building, and the old beams.!! somewhere in France.??
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, in the Gers region. The house is the old farmhouse in the village - some of it is older than the french revolution believe it or not!
Good work m'y friend
In germany we say kerve for it. We have a machine for the process. Max deep is 3cm. If the roof is flat 2.5cm are enough.
Me encara tu trabajo
real cutting edge stuff here
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
👏🏼
@excelcsllc
5 жыл бұрын
tone brooker Old school yes!!! Cutting edge??? not so much in here!!!
@Acheiropoietos
5 жыл бұрын
I saw what you did there.
@501talon
5 жыл бұрын
Definitely not old school... Ida got kicked off the job real quick if the bossman saw me using a clamp to get a toenail to line up. lol
wow simple business thanks
@a2thee270
5 жыл бұрын
Like alot of the skills. Using it and retaining it come from practice practice practice. I built house with my fathers company since I was knee high. Alot of stuff you can forget. But the key is doing it til it becomes second nature. Dad said he could rebuild the word when that time comes. And I bet he could. Smart man without a high school diploma. Very successful business man
From the look of the construction the roof will last another few hundred years.
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
That's the plan sir!
Interesting nailing technique. Sounds like woodpeckers. Definitely not the Larry Haun style: two-whack (one to set and one to drive home) 16d nails.
I appreciate the work and the detail. The problem is that he didn't explain what's the angle of the bird mouth and how deep should the cut be. Most KZread tutorials explain this detail very quickly while going back and forth measuring with the ruler and the straight edge. By the end of it you end up more confused than at the beginning of it. So I give up on bird mouth online! :) Next time I'll go to a carpenter so he can explain to me the measuring part of it directly. Thanks anyway and happy new year! 👍
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Nice craftsmanship! Equally impressive is the ranch, the structures, and the surrounding landscape. Based on the vehicle's license plate tags, this looks to be in Italy? Very nice, I wish I could retire to a beautiful place like this.
@bpdp379
3 жыл бұрын
I saw in another video they said Southern France.
@mariekefrohn8342
2 жыл бұрын
France, le Gers
How about a simple fixture on your miter saw to make that 2nd cut. Using a handsaw? Seems like a lot of time and effort for a less consistent cut, even with the speed increase in the video...
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Great videos. They're addictive. Are those nails through the birds mouth really sufficient to hold all the downward and outward pressure loads from the heavy tile roof?
@bethmorano1452
9 ай бұрын
I agree.
Beautiful work! Subscribed
Do you just use 2 nails to attach joist to wall plate as in video and what type of nails are used ? Screws be ok to use ? Thanks.
Why did he not mitre cut the other side of the rafter as opposed to using the saw?
How dose your template relate to other roofs or have u worked out hight distance and square the buildings your in seem to be early 1800s?
@barrydewhirst3947
3 жыл бұрын
Please excuse my comment I assumed the rafters were for your place
Привет) твоему трудолюбию и большому количеству полезных навыков можно позавидовать! Great job man!
Just curious you ever sell all those little tool bags? Also do they sell a framing hammer in England? I believe those are ancient DIY hammers for like hanging pictures? I could be wrong? Amazing videos though I am hooked and subscribed!
That birds mouth is in the wrong direction. The hook part is there to prevent the rafter from sliding off the top plate. As shown it is only held on by the screw.
@rtyrtyrtyus
3 жыл бұрын
That's why you have joists.
What hammers do you use? And how long are those nails?
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@bpdp379
3 жыл бұрын
I saw another video that said they are in France.
Can you cut both sides of the Bird Mouth with the Miter Saw?
There’s always someone who thinks they’re a pro in the comments that believes the technique isn’t common practice yet the technique used will have the same effect 😂
@zephyr1408
3 жыл бұрын
Uh. Forget the tech i am a carpenter but just amazed at how they cut and framed that roof (I watched the full monte) with basically Old curved claw hammers with no “Arse , also know as ass” on it to frame with! That’s amazing!
In what year the house was built?
how do you know how much to cut to put the rafters in like you did on the first one when you handed it up to the guy
@olanieznane7208
5 жыл бұрын
ABna ye
Is the building in Italy?
Jeez I wish you’d called me, I’d have lent you a jig saw for that second cut.
Even making sure the rafters are the right way up...
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
Well what rafter would wanna be upside down?! 😱
Beautiful workmanship. The sound effects of the sawing and nailing at high speed are hilarious. Thank you. How much is is a 4"x4"x8' post where you are?
@sebastianstraub8910
4 жыл бұрын
8 Canadian dollars where I come from
so your miter saw cannot cut the beams to that angle? You had to use a manual saw? Or why did you do it that way?
Did I see a bottle of beer sitting on the rafter that were already cut
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
that must've been the cat. damn alcoholic.
Is it treated timber? As it’s a necessity for prevention of insects, worm, carpenter ants etc?
@ambilaevus7607
3 жыл бұрын
Only if it's in contact with the ground is it required. I've been told treated lumber is not ok for interior framing due to off gassing of the chemicals however I've never dug to see if it's true; just been told by a bunch of people on different projects over the decades.
bon travail
Wow, most of the work done by hand. Pneumatic nailers would be beneficial and impact drivers for long timberlock screws. Nice work, very exact
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
But that's the best bit!
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
Also the screws were getting to hot with the driver. Slower was safer
Lots of comments about the 2nd (shallow angle) cuts you did with the handsaw. There is no way to cut these with a mitre or skill saw (to that depth). In Canada pretty well everyone has a chainsaw (and a few know how to use them) I would have done the second cut with the chainsaw.... OR a reciprocating saw with a wide and long coarse blade.
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
yeah nice idea. one thing i like about hand saw is the workout!
@carsongoodman5581
5 жыл бұрын
Sawzall can do it
@mfsolutions
5 жыл бұрын
@@carsongoodman5581 we call sawzalls reciprocating saws because it sounds cool.
@carsongoodman5581
5 жыл бұрын
Gregory Dalton hahah any recip saw is a sawzall and a circular saw is skill saw in my book. Mitre saw is a chop saw😂
Nice video, invest in a paslode!
greetings are you employing the the 10/6 method or the american 12/6 for the rise of the roof ?
@carlroge
5 жыл бұрын
Hey William, we had to follow the rise of the existing roof, so not sure exactly what it was. We ran a line from the apex to the new ring beam and used that as a guide
Nice
I have a top plate with a birdsmouth cut instead of the rafter. I've only found one that way so far. Is the reason pure dipshittery or have I missed something? Too bad it wont let me upload the photo.
@whiteboy32607
3 жыл бұрын
That method you speak of sounds like it Weakens the top plate.
Good
Wonderful! I’m wondering why you chose not to use the Saw for the second cut by changing the angle if it, but rather cut them by hand?
@nathano2778
9 ай бұрын
Assuming the angle was too steep for his saw setup
Hi Carl, what is the reason you use nails instead of screws? Thanks!
@75clarkejones
2 жыл бұрын
I think nails are less likely to snap if stressed.
C'est de la restauration à l'anglaise cela fait peur .( la liaison entre l'alba , le chevron et la panne ).
@christophevaurs3107
5 жыл бұрын
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@MrSammotube
5 жыл бұрын
Vous devriez élaborer ...
....Oettinger war dann doch der entscheidende BÖLKSTOFF? :-)
What is the perfect step height?
Where is that Mafell P1cc super-duper jig saw when you need it? Last month I had to cut 40 rafters. Hand sawing was "not going to cut it" -- literally as well as metaphorically.
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