Follow up video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJqEw5Z-gNrHgrA.html

@0623kaboom

3 жыл бұрын

a good idea for the open space at the steep roof angle ... why not put a folding escape ladder there for when power is out or if someone shuts off the breaker on you ... then you just drop the ladder climb down and pull a rope to lift the ladder back up or get a folding attic ladder that you can use for emergency stairs and use that beside the lift in the larger space ... it will fill the space add emergency ladder to your loft and close the loft in for a bit better safety from falls . also if you mount a support to the hoist and mount the fall arrestor to a lag bolt into the beam above and NOT on the channel with the hoist then your fall arrestor will be able to actually do its job ... and your hoist wont torque the channel it is mounted on taking out some the bounce in your lift

@charmainecollins8515

3 жыл бұрын

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As a union elevator constructor, this was a super fun video to watch. You have great ideas and great execution. May I suggest not putting your wench and "safety" on the same piece of the strut? As well I would encourage you to find something stronger to mount these to as I have always been taught to make sure your safety line is attached to something that can take a 5,000 lb load/ force.

@isaacandrade3783

2 жыл бұрын

His barn beams might not even take that load. No I beams or glue lambs.

@ccjohncc1

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

@hughbegg274

Жыл бұрын

Union guy/gal is right. Separate safety anchor point NOT to unistrut. It needs 5000# capacity

@SPUDWRENCH

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love that BG stick huh? But yeah…that safety chain is uhhh suspended from same member that supports the wench motor. Oops!

I need to add a second story to my shop just to have one of these! Cool project, Jay :)

@Wordsnwood

3 жыл бұрын

Heck, you could build one into your house to make accessing the basement easier... 😉

@akbychoice

3 жыл бұрын

Go for three.

@isailwind3471

2 жыл бұрын

If you do use a worm gear not a winch, when that f's up and it will, there will be much pain involved.

Super cool! Any plans to add some cheesy 80s soft jazz for elevator music?

@nctplarry

3 жыл бұрын

That cheesy 80's soft jazz would go just great with some outtakes akin to ones provided by Captain Fisher! :-) I totally enjoy both of y'all (unless your schizophrenic, in which case I can say I love ALL Y'ALL).

@finster101

3 жыл бұрын

That's definitely a must! I suggest "The girl from Ipanema" at the very least. Oh and nice build. I really like the "evil twin", double exposure effect thingy in the video too.

@secondwind75

3 жыл бұрын

@@finster101 You took the tune right outta my head! Lol.

@TheducksOrg

3 жыл бұрын

That's more a Wesley Treat thing I think ;)

@markpalmer3071

3 жыл бұрын

...and some flat head screws

Awesome as always. One suggestion, probably nothing you haven’t thought of and decides against, but anyway, your fall arrester could be more useful if it were attached to that 2x12 or whatever it is holding the mini split so in the unlikely case the structure holding the winch fails, the fall arrester is not connected to that same structure making it useless.

@pygar909

3 жыл бұрын

Also, the chain securing the fall arrester should be rated at least twice the maximum weight of the arrester. If the arrester is rated for 500 pounds, you want the chain rated for a minimum of 1,000 pounds.

@wes_d

3 жыл бұрын

What he said... The basic concept is that any protection measure will not be undone by the same failure that you are protecting against. My challenge to you would be to look at other things in that setup for single points of failure and make sure that the protection is independent of that failure. This also includes actions that you mentioned doing as protection measures...like forgetting to turn the breaker off. The trick sometimes is knowing when is it enough or where you say no more needed.

@waynenocton

3 жыл бұрын

@@wes_d but he doesn’t miss much so he may well have a good reason, he usually thinks things through very well. Most wouldn’t have done the fall arrester. I’m not even certain arrester is a word lol. Arrestor? Spelling is hard ha ha.

@rick_.

3 жыл бұрын

Also needs a second strap at the platform end. It is entirely possible the single strap could fail due repeated stress over a small area. You may want to use a piece of pipe or otherwise round over the corners where the stap wraps around the plywood. Although the most likely thing to fail is clutch in the hoist.

@waynenocton

3 жыл бұрын

@@rick_. don’t think there is a clutch in the hoist, I have a couple different ones and mine are all direct coupled, shearing of the woodruff key would have a similar effect tho. But all this is covered by his DIY talk at the beginning, I think he did a great job as always.

Excellent project, one thing though - get a key lock control for the lift, kids are brighter than you think 😀

@matt_s1995

3 жыл бұрын

Any tips for me? I want to adapt a lift system like this but for a bed in a tiny home... so I can amd will have 4 rails, 2 on both ends of the bed.

@maxwellholley8516

3 жыл бұрын

He I think he said he leaves the breaker off which is a pretty good key itself.

@LimonUpii

3 жыл бұрын

@@matt_s1995 I came to this video for exactly the very same purpose of yours. Were you able to get some ideas?

The fall arrester should be affixed to a different point. You still have a single point of failure for both the hoist and the arrester.

@xedasxedas

3 жыл бұрын

That really well observed. Things a safety inspector would verify rogt out of the gate.

@rupe53

3 жыл бұрын

@@xedasxedas ... a real safety inspector would have a problem with there not being enough capacity, especially with people riding on it. The platform, hardware, and a guy already take up 300 out of the possible 500 pound capacity. Then we have pinch points, no hand rails, and no UL listing for passengers.

@davidbanaszak562

3 жыл бұрын

@@rupe53 no osha railing was my fist thought too as a trained safety guy. I think that the 29 and 40 cfr need to be consulted for this lift.

@johnosman8971

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidbanaszak562 Guys, guys, guys, … he is not building this for anyone’s use, except himself, … It is not for the public, or for a business, with employees, or customers, … And it is a D I Y, … maybe permanent, but, maybe not!

@specsix

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnosman8971 thank you for saying this. Holy crap the people on the internet.

cool build. I see now why the lift cable is attached at the bottom of a big cutout on the back

@dennispope8160

3 жыл бұрын

@@StormBurnX your comment is the reason Matthias doesn’t like commenting on others videos. He has brought this up several times. He enjoys the intellectual conversations that could occur but not the “wow you watch this too!” Comments.

@prestonrenify

2 жыл бұрын

Great project, very well done. Only wish I had wherewithal to work at your level. Super looking shop, too! Otoh....Can't help but share several safety concerns: child access when mom/dad not looking or out of house, pinched fingers, and winch noise level. Kudos!

@isailwind3471

2 жыл бұрын

use a worm gear not a winch.

@Engineer9736

2 жыл бұрын

wow you watch this too!

@Engineer9736

2 жыл бұрын

@@dennispope8160 You sound a little bit like a Matthias Wandel simp. Time to man up and have your own opinion instead of following others.

Pretty cool! A little more reliance on wood glue than I'd ever be comfortable with though. If someone asked me to imagine how a cabinet maker would make an elevator, this would be it

@_r.t-

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I personally would have went with a metal frame for the trolley

This is perfect. I have been thinking about a lift in my shop for years, but never really went through with it because I thought it would cost thousands. I love this lift you built! Thanks Jay!

I built an elevator for my dog to get in and out of our house. He was getting too old to climb the 12 steps. I used a similar electric winch for my build. Please make sure and check that the gears have lube. Mine did not when when I checked. There is a lube fitting at the base of the gear housing. When I removed it to check, it was empty. Great job on your build! I didn’t even think of using a fall stop on mine. If I were still using mine it would be a great addition but my boy passed almost 2 years ago.

@95ffd

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry about your boy.

You read my mind Jay, I'd just decided I needed to add a lift to my shop for additional storage in the attic of my shop as part of its remodeled this summer. I think I'll have mine double as a lumber rack so I can load up racks on it to save trips raising and lowering the lift. Great build 👍

What an uplifting post. I feel elevated!

Thanks for solving a problem that has been ruminating in my mind ever since we bought a new townhouse. My disabilities make stairs a nightmare at my age and I wasn't looking forward to trying to convince my son to come over everytime I needed to store things in the attic. Unistrut has got to be one of the most useful materials ever made 😊 After watching the video I only suggest that when you add the 2nd arrestor they should be attached on the trolleys on both sides 😊

Keep a ladder in the attic incase of winch overload tripping the breaker.

@thirstbuster78

3 жыл бұрын

Or power outage!

@stevezhang3646

3 жыл бұрын

Put a UPS should solve the problem

@Helloverlord

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, just cut the strap!

Thanks Jay, I was planning to add something similar when I build out my shop and add a second floor.

A GFCI circuit breaker would also take care of your water concern, without having to flip the breaker all the time.

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I went this route because I had everything on hand to do this and its an added safety of preventing unwanted use.

@NASTYcraftX

3 жыл бұрын

Might as well spend the $20 and GFCI that outlet anyways.

@Wordsnwood

3 жыл бұрын

I think I'd make it a switched outlet to save wear on the breaker.

@patrickhigdon7050

3 жыл бұрын

and a locked switch to the outlet in the shop

@wes_d

3 жыл бұрын

GFCI for the NEC Code win ;-)

Dude this is the kind of stuff I want to see on KZread. Love it man, so original. Please keep it up

have been wanting to do something like this for a long time. This is so simple and straightforward!

That is super cool, Jay! I don't have a second story in my garage, but I could see a modified version of your design working great for attic storage. Right now I have to use a ladder, and it definitely discourages me from using that space effectively. I love how you can store it in the "up" position and have access to the floorspace below. Well done!!

Wow! I had invented this in my mind earlier today and then I came to youtube and here it is. So glad I found this because you did a much better job than I was planning. The superstruts are a game changer! I was going to use 4 pulleys but I like your design much better. Thanks so much for sharing

simply amazing that a person can design and build something like this!

What a video! I have been threatening to get a Harbor freight electric hoist to lift heavy items into my attic through the pull down stairway opening. You have inspired me, now I have to do it. Thanks for your channel.

Ideally the fall arrest system would be rigged to something separate from what the motor is rigged to, but doesn't look like there's anything practical that could work there. Very cool though.

13:10 that's really impressive clearance. Great work

The fall arrester is a great idea. Once the video started I was thinking you needed some sort of finger latch mechanism like a car lift, but this is a waaaay simpler solution!

Awesome idea and execution. I can imagine the great feeling every time you use it 👍🏻

Flip the top strut, much less flex. Or slam a peace of wood in the strut, and put some screws in.

@n8guy

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Wow! great idea well executed. Apologies if this was already mentioned but I would err on the side of over engineering and add a second superstrut above the hoist for add strength and secure the fall arrestor to the top strut and the hoist to the bottom strut. Just an added measure of safety to have them attached to separate struts. Thanks!!

Great idea about the fall arrestor. I built a lift and always worry about a fall due to hoist failure. I’m going to add this to mine. Thanks mate, from Australia.

I have been thinking about making one of those for my shop. Now that I've seen it actually done,Now I definitely want one. Nice build Jay,and thanks for the nudge that I needed.

I'm glad you took my advice (from the part 3 shop part layout video you put out about 1yr ago) on installing an elevator 😬 even better you diy'd it 👌🏻

That’s awesome Jay. It gives that area of your shop a cleaner look to I think. Incredible build.

This is incredible!!! I'm remodeling a very old Fire Station into my home. I can do the steps, but worry about guest. This would solve that problem. Thanks for sharing.

I’m actually going to do this for a 3-story house I’m building, and want to mention I love your large filter modifications for your mini splits

Sitting around board and then I found this. Gotta say, that's one of the most coolest creations I've seen.

Jay, I have 25 yrs plus HVACR experience. As for the drain on the minisplit, if you can access the drain pan, pour one cap full of bleach into the drain pan once per year. This will prevent the algea from growing and clogging the drain.

Love the design jay. For anybody that wants to build one you can get 20 foot sections from Electric supply store

Great job Wish we had that kind of storage space for Christmas items etc.

Awesome build love the idea and how to you make. Someday when I have a house and am not renting this is a project I’m looking forward too. Folding ladder and this!

Although I haven't the physical space ever to need a shop lift, watching the installation and hearing your careful measurements and calculations was very informative. At some point, it would be nice to see your loft loaded.

That's a great idea and video! Wish I had the room to do something like this! Great work.

Love everything about this. Now if I only had ceilings high enough to do this!

This is clever Jay. Never in a million years would I have thought to build my elevator.

Genius,I was looking for this very thing, it's even simpler than I hoped for THANKS

I liked the light switch attachment (bubble level) you used to turn the light off. Thanks really enjoyed the vid. May have to do this to my shop.

I want this for my house attic in the garage. Ugh, such a pain to use an attic ladder and get stuff up there! Great build Jay!

@gardengatesopen

3 жыл бұрын

I want this for my house!!! Inside my house, just used as an elevator!!!! Excellent video! 5 Stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

I knew before clicking on this video that I would never do something like this. But this was a fun video to watch. Thanks Jay.

Great job! I recommend you fix the support for the top strut ... it will stress over time and could fail. Also they sell double struts and I would recommend ones without slots and just drill your own locations where needed for better stability.

I'm 73 now. I need one of these to get me up to my bedroom. ;-)

Looks great!

This is a lovely project, thank you..I really appreciate it. One love.

I just came across this idea last haha. I am tweaking it a bit to make a retractable lumber rack in to my attic space.

you know you have an epic shop when you decide to build an elevator in it lol! super cool!!

Cool idea. I’ve seen a few people build on of these. A few words of advise. I work in the elevator/vertical transportation field and safety is a huge issue. Recalculate your load. You are probably pushing close to the limit. I believe max rating for the winch is when the pull cable is unwrapped all the way and then each layer reduces the actual capacity. Also someone else mentioned it would be a good idea to attach the fall arrester to a separate point. Just in case the support where the winch is attached to fails. Main thing is just watch your kids, would hate them to get pinched on something or the thing fall on them.

Am 73 and built my house when I was 40. Have outside steps and landing down to garage. Been thinking of a lift for my shopping attached to the landing. The steel channel is brilliant. May opt for hand operated boat trailer winch as its outside. When I’m 93 I may opt for electrics.

@gofishglobal7919

2 жыл бұрын

I am looking at building one of these for the same reason.

Nice work Jay I like the fall arestor idea as the emergency brauke smart idea I agree on the electric hoists as I too researched them for another project

Next level storage! 😂 Well done.

ive been watching your videos for 8 years now, you came alone ways, good for you, and keep them videos comeing.

This is one of the coolest builds I have seen on KZread.. Awesome, simply awesome

Absolutely love it. I thought the idea of a DIY elevator is pretty sketchy, but with the added fall arrester, then it should be as safe as any other elevator. However, the fall arrester should be a redundant safety system, so mounting it to the main motor mount isn't really ideal. Is it long enough to be mounted to the roof structure above instead? EDIT: after having a second look at your video, then you should have a separate strap for the platform as well.

This just gave me an idea for a super long custom sit-down/stand-up desk!

Jay, good call-out or the Tractor Supply Store. I get my hardware there whenever I can (as well as a ton of other homestead essentials.) I'm really lucky to have one only 4 miles away.

@thefirebuilds

3 жыл бұрын

The worst thing about moving to the south was losing Farm and Fleet

As usual, great work Jay! I like the added fall arrest yoyo!

I love this. I am looking at building an accessory dwelling unit for myself as I downsize. It will have an outside stairway, but I am considering building an elevator that will mesh with the deck and even the awning could mesh as well. My body is not doing great so this will allow me to have a 3 car garage as well below the unit.

Very ingenious project. I’m a commercial electrician in Chicago. What you refer to as super-strut we call uni-strut. It’s basically our version of lego. We use to hang conduit, boxes, gear, build all sorts of supports and things. It does flex much more than you’d think. For us they do sell a doubled up version that’s a bit stronger if you find that to be an issue. There’s 7/8”, 1 5/8”, 3 1/4”, and 6 1/2” thicknesses. Take care.

Appreciate this video. I've been considering something similar in my house. We have a split-level house so everything heavy, groceries, laundry, tools, boxes, etc., has to go up and down stairs. I want something similar for my gallon of milk. Thank you!

THAT...is an awesome project!!!

Thank you for this I want to build this!!

Your video helped me a lot while setting an affordable lift in my home

Brilliant use of a winch!!

Very cool idea. I was thinking that a double strut at top or a strap to the board above it for added strength. Very handy to have!!

Wow ! you knocked this one out of the park.

Wow Jay this is totally awesome!

Jay, you are one sharp wood worker. I have learned a lot watching you.

Great idea and diy project. Thank you.

Favorite project ever, wish I had a space to put one

This is brilliant.

Great job and well thought out.

Nice job. I think a lot of people can use this. Thanks for sharing

great project sir jay. love it. i want to do this one too in the future. smart idea.

That’s an awesome build!

Very good, thanks for sharing that

Brilliant idea! 👍

Holy crap, that is totally AWESOME! Going to Home Depot tonight! Thanks for the idea

I love it! IDK if this is necessary, but how about adding a trap door to the top/loft area so that when the lift in on the ground level the door swings down, thus preventing anyone from falling through the lift shaft. When the lift goes up it would just push the trap door up as it penetrates the upper floor. Just a thought.

Great out of the box thinking and great execution.

Very nice and simple build ! Thank you

!!!! Jay!!! !!! You have no preload on that cross strut. Look into how metal fatigue works, and how over time repeated stress will cause that strut to become brittle and sheer. I'm not saying it will happen soon, but when it happens, that cross bar will snap in half, and that is what your safety device is attached to!!!! Move your fall arrester so that it is attached to something completely independent from the rest of the support structure (such as the roof for example).

@doubleedgedsword6352

3 жыл бұрын

Other than that, sweet design! Bet you're well happy!

Nice work! I'd probably move the fall arrestor to the 2x12 instead of the superstrut the lift is attached to.

That is really cool, it seemed a little overkill to start but i was absolutely wrong. Well done Jay!

Great job on the elevator Jay! Thanks for sharing the video with us!💖👌👍😎JP

Brilliant! Very nicely done.

Jay...Love this project. Really love the light switch extender you used at the end. I know you wanted the lift on its own electrical circuit but it would be very convenient to power the lights up there on that same breaker or better yet a switch to save on wear and tear of the breaker.

one of the smarter diy projects i have seen in a while ! thank you

Thank you.

Super idea, Jay!

One of the coolest projects really

Excellent idea, Excellent build !!!! thanks

the fall arrest is a nice addition. :)