In case you missed the original video, here's a link: ►kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2hrq66YdtvIaKg.html Still on the fence about milling? I hope these videos motivate you to try out this technique. With the addition of the counter-weights, you're almost guaranteed a workable result on your first try. If you've already tried this before, read the description for a few more refinement tips.

@benjaminbrewer2154

3 жыл бұрын

That SEO description is brutal to read. Just checked the description of the 'eight miter' video, looks like I will have to check back later. Thanks for the video and the knowledge. Not sure the chainsaw has paid for itself yet as I still value wood at 50¢-$1 per board foot (green rough sawn) but I could see it easily paying for itself in other circumstances. Glad for the update proving the usefulness of the method.

@homunkoloss6782

3 жыл бұрын

in the last chainsaw milling description you ruled out a counterweight in favor of a pin. did you try out a pin or wheel in the meantime? or was the weight just an easier improvement? *dont even know why i am engaged this much in chainsaw milling xD - the most dangerous tool i have is a coping saw xD - but never the less i like this aproach of yours to these kind of activities, still helps me cultivating better thought patterns in my problem solving :)

I made the same jig yesterday. Tks for sharing. Works great. Going to try find me a huge tree now and mill it where it falls. 😎

Man your awesome I’ve been using your technique for about a month now and cut myself about 20 boards now I was wondering about the weight issue and you just solved it. When I say I’ve been using your method I mean same chainsaw and everything!!! Keep it up!!!

I have a bad case of Pocket83 video addiction! Good stuff!

This immediately made me regret spending money on the little bracket I just bought. Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge mate, I just recently found your channel & it's in a category of its own. Definitely have that independent artist ripping up the contract & stepping on the throat of the major labels kind of vibe!!

If you were milling logs of roughly the same thickness, you could put three paint line on the bar to show you how deep to cut; just another visual cue to help make things easier. Thanks for another great video!

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Great idea.

Some additional pointers for anyone using a set up like this. Most chainsaw mills like this use the saw over the log, not on the side, so the counterweight isn’t used. The tighter tolerances you have on your sliding fixture, the straighter the cuts will be. If you want to avoid the kerf imperfections when moving your end clamp, leave the log 2” longer than you need. Screw a 2 x 4 across the end of the log and then screw the guide board to it from the top. Then cut the remaining 2” off the end of the finished board where the screws were and you won’t have screw holes.

This is a better setup than some of the actual chainsaw mills and probably a lot easier on the saw

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Haha. Depends. There are some dumb ones out there. Everybody's an expert: just edit out the bad boards, right?

Very nice. I’ve never tried to rip logs with a chainsaw but your method seems like a simple yet inexpensive way to occasionally cut a few logs. Thank you for sharing.

This is genius......thanks for sharing

Good time for this considering the price of lumber right now

We watched your first and this update video; got to give it to you. Great video! Love the amount of attention to detail you shared so that others can emulate your work. Thanks a ton.

The counterweight is a beautiful and non-obvious refinement. I have some cedar about 7 inches in diameter. The only chainsaw I have is an old, wall-electric craftsman. I'm gonna give this a go. Thanks again.

@FuseItAll

Жыл бұрын

How did work for you ? What wattage is the electric chain saw you used ?

Very nicely done! Thank you sir for taking the time to make a detailed and informative video. I would love to buy a sawmill right now but they are just not available for months. Im going to try this on our cabin project here in Alaska. All I need to do is flatten 1-2 sides of some spruce perlins and ridge beam. So it should work ok. I have the logs so there's nothing to loose but the time trying it.

Bravo mister!

Great videos! How do you finish cutting the last couple of boards when there is virtually no more log to rest the fence (2x4) on?

Nice setup! Maybe a T slot or a dovetail slot on the underside of the track so you could have a clamp in there out of the way.

Caught your first video. Like the upgrade, makes sense. Once again great idea Bro!

I have just built and used your jig and man it is astonishing! I need to point out that this was my first time I had no milling experience whatsoever but as you mentioned, tenacity was carrying me through the milling. I have just milled my first backyard log BECAUSE of your jig. The value of the jig is that mich greater as it allowed me, a complete roocky, to “feel” the process and beyond that to get 8 astonishing usable walnut boards with jawdropping finish surface! I cannot expess enough my appreciation for your effort of figuring this jig out and sharing it with the rest of us!

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

Walnut on the first try! Nice. Awesome to hear. Thanks.

@dusannikolic8635

2 жыл бұрын

I felt compeled to give you the credits I have actually shared your YT chanel name and links to both videos on fb group. Cheers!

You have access to some nice species of wood and that saw guide is just DIY genius

Seeing the low cutting angle works best. I would lower the saw as low as it can go with the pivot point. I will try your mill ideas, thanks for the post.

hi, nice video. I have a trunk bigger than the chainsaw blade. how would you do it? Thank you

Excellent video, lots of good info....thank you.

Good job man! 👍

I love this. Can't wait to try it. Dam my neighbors are gonna hate me. Thanks for sharing.

Another handy addon might be some sort of locking system for keeping the chainsaw tilted at a certain angle. That way, you can guarantee you're cutting a consistent depth the entire way!

Great video. I look forward to trying this out.

Wow great video and I like how you share your learning curve for making your chainsaw guide . I am in the Philippines now and have a chainsaw and we just ha a SUPER TYPHOON which was the worst storm I have ever experienced. But fallen trees here are practically unlimited. I will be making one of your chainsaw guide because it is portable and makes sense. I have cut freehand and I do not like it. I have to look again to see how you located the drilled whole on the chainsaw bar. The weight idea was great because watching the first video I could see the chainsaw guide was beginning to float.

Excellent video, thanks for sharing! I think i see a patent in the future!

Enjoyed video. Great idea.

Both videos very inspiring, definitely going to build this jig, many thanks for the careful and well put together description.

@pocket83squared

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for reading that. There are lots of tips in the description. Let me know how it goes. Good luck!

i built this mill 2 days ago after seeing your video and used it on my 056, it got a little heavy after a few trees with the 32 inch bar but im going to try this right away! thanks and good timing on the video

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the weights will be a big improvement with a saw like yours. I'm interested to hear how well this setup works with a longer bar. Let me know! Good luck.

Whats the length of your bar? I have 14" . Maybe to small.

Merci pour l'idée 👍j'essayerais de le faire

Ingenuity is timeless. Well done, man.

Hey pocket. Enjoyed this thanks for sharing 👍 looks like you have refined your perfectly effective method. Great for smaller logs and requires very little special kit - I like!

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's low commitment, and it's been great for making 6" boards. My plan for the future is still to build something like yours for the larger stuff, though. Happy spring!

@FloweringElbow

3 жыл бұрын

@@pocket83squared happy spring indeed 😁

good job...I used Izzy Swan's Chain Saw Mill Sled as a inspiration and made my version in 2018. I have been milling my dead trees ever since. I have at least 1200 board feet of white and red oak mostly. I learned and what I do now is good stuff. I mill at 1 1/4 to allow for the drying and planing process. I enjoy a milling day. Opening the logs up is like Christmas morning.

@Truth13157

2 жыл бұрын

About how big is your diamter pine logs you mill. In your opinion can I get 8' 6" easy enough? Thank you so much for a reply brother!!

@tjacksonwoodworker3726

2 жыл бұрын

@@Truth13157, no pine so far. Mostly oak. The biggest I have milled would be close to 20” diameter. Most are around 15”. I debark them which helps keep the chain sharp. I started milling boards at 8’. The trails are 12’. 8.6 wound be near the limit. The key is a sharp chain and a clean air filter. Slabbing is rough in the saw. Hope that answers your question

I like your videos because I like your thinking,,,,you seem to do your own......well filmed and presented....greetings and Merry Christmas from La Grange Texas

& using 3 teeth at a time instead of trying to eat it all with one pass. A finer cut. Man awesome bro. Keep up the great work and videos. Thanks so much for sharing.

Awesome i like that set up

Outstanding videos sir! You just got a new subscriber. Oh and thank you for all your hard work!

Your track could have "teeth" at the end (-12"), the endwood is usually trash anyway so the bites don't matter. Then you can hit it in and the front clamp is probably enough to do the whole board without any reclamping.

Have you made any attempts to sell your lumber? I'm curious if this could be a small side business.

Thanks Pocket!

This is brilliant

AMAZING. Well I know what I'm doing next weekend.

omg..this is awesome..do you have measurements on making the little box. would love to try this

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

Link is in the description.

Really cool simple , out of dozens of designs I like this one . I have recently purchased a piece of land with a lot of trees . I don't even own a chainsaw anymore and have very limited experience with them . I hope to try this design out .video and narration are excellent as well... Thank You !

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch. There's a KZread presenter named Terry Hale. He will really put you on the right path with respect to using a chainsaw. Enjoy life in the woods! Good luck.

@JasonSipe16

3 жыл бұрын

I wasn't going to watch it at first because I was starting to get dead-set on freehanding because the alsakan mills create too much frislction but ended up liking this the best. Reminds me of my track saw! Are you running a ripping chain?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

@@JasonSipe16 Yep. Regular old 30° chain.

@JasonSipe16

3 жыл бұрын

@@pocket83squared I saw you mentioned it in the original video. This is awesome!

Thank you

Great video 👍👍👍👍👍😁

Why not put the motor/weight of the saw over the jig rather than have it float in space? Wouldn't that eliminate the need for the counterweight?

Thank you for the moment of zen

Are you working with wet logs ? If not , are they just air dried ? If so , how long ? And i love your jig ! I'm gonna try it on an ms 290 farm boss. I'm use to the weight of the saw. Thanks for the vid and the link !

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

The Cherry was dropped a month ago. The Maple, two weeks. The ends were painted to slow drying. As for the saw's weight, it doesn't matter if you're strong enough to hold a Farm Boss all day; the weights are for stabilizing the jig, to make it sit flatter, so that you end up with straighter cuts. The weights are highly recommended. Either way, thanks and good luck.

Very good idea I am improving important thing from your video GOD bless you

Thanks Mr. Pocket

the long strand sawdust makes great fire starter especially if it's pine. l use it to fire off my pellet stove ever since the glow plug starter gave up. Faster than alcohol.

Very cool sir!

About how big is your diamter pine logs you mill. In your opinion can I get 8' 6" easy enough? Thank you so much for a reply brother!!

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

Diameter: The logs in this video started at around a 14" diameter or so, but after there are flat spots are on each side, that thickness changes. You want to shoot for around an 8" thick chunk that's flat on both sides. This jig is best for making 8" wide boards. Length: You can use this method for any length you want. 8'6" is about ideal, because your saw will overheat if you're cutting _too_ much length. Just try to find a 9 or 10' guide board that's straight. Pine: Sure, this technique would rip through pine like butter. But I haven't tried it yet. I'm not likely to bother milling unless I'm getting hardwood out of it. If you're going to try this, there are even more tips in the description. Good luck!

Good stuff

You mentioned the smaller chainsaw is ideal, but if the best cut is made with shallow angles, would a longer chainsaw work better? Or did you find the larger/longer chainsaw was less stable, so worse cut anyway?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know. But it's reasonable to suspect that a longer bar will be associated with increased error. The 16" I'm working with now seems to be an appropriate balance between length and error. And since the investment in new bars and chains is so steep, I'm not likely to experiment soon. My advice-if you're using a longer bar-would be to try to tighten up the backlash/slop on all of the jig's parts, and to try and keep a tight rail. Also, try to keep the nose of the saw close to where it exits the log, as you seemed to've suggested. Too much poke-through might cause the cut to 'hug' less and stray laterally, not to mention it's a great way to mill through a few toes.

@ironhead65

3 жыл бұрын

@@pocket83squared fair enough. Thank you for the thoughts on this. It makes sense. Now here is hoping reality agrees!

Question : wouldn't it be lighter on the saw and especially on the chain if you cut 90 degrees the first time? What I mean is when you cut at an apprx 15deg you are using the whole length of the bar (well nearly..in your video-obviously it's a case of the thickness of the lumber and the length of the bar ..haha) ..anyway..If you cut at 90deg then that's the shortest accoros so less strain on the chain.Am I right or there's more to it? Reply here pls hopefully others will find it useful/helpful. Thanks for the uploads very clear and precise.Keep them coming. Best Mick

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

In a word, no. Whether the bar is at an angle or not, both the bar and the chain have a fixed length. In other words, _some_ part of it has to make the cut. If it's the nose that's making the cut, then the bottom part of the bar is just carrying the shavings out. In either case, there is very little resistance being caused by a tooth that has its 'scoop' full. "Strain," as you mention it, is just friction, and as long as your cut is clear and straight, it should be kept at a minimum. The thing that's probably most surprising about the process is that it works _least_ efficiently at 90°. In fact, it seems like it works the best when you make lots of quick, shallow passes; moving over the log really quickly ends up dropping the boards faster and using less gas. This has to do with the log's grain, quickly ejecting chips, and some other stuff. There's lots more in the description if you're in the mood to think/read about it. Thanks.

This is awesome! Rather than freehand the top and bottom, couldn’t you flatten the top off enough for your guide to sit flat, then use the guide to cut the sides off and then flip it 90 degrees? I don’t know if that would be any easier though

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. That's exactly how I started doing it at first. In fact, I'd probably recommend trying that out a few times before using the method I describe here. However, the new way has the benefits of less bark-cutting and more consistent board widths.

Very informative. The only thing I would change is rather than dancing with clamps on the ends, screw sacrificial 2x4s chunks to the ends of the log to screw your guide to. Then the only holes in your work is on the end and can be cut away

Nice.

im gonna try this for sure, win or fail thanks for the idea

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

It'll be alright. Just make light passes, and let the saw do the work. If you use the weights and make ten 1" deep cuts, you're guaranteed to end up with some usable lumber. Remember: don't get greedy with yours cuts; light passes using mostly the tip will cut cleaner, use less gas, and go faster. One more thing: use a guide board that sticks over the end of your log by a foot. You'll need the extra length to run out the jig. Good luck.

will there be a video on stained glass anytime soon?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't played with the stuff in years. Though I've wanted to do a how-to-cut-glass vid for some time. Are you stuck on a project, or is it a new interest?

@homunkoloss6782

3 жыл бұрын

@@pocket83squared a new interest, i saw some in your videos and got curious. do you have any recomendation where i could look further into the topic, apart from typing 'how to make stained glass?' in youtube? :)

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm. Yeah. Beautiful art. But advice? Not really! My experience with the stuff took place before KZread was even a thing. There's probably some great stuff on here for that now. I will say this, though, remember: saving money lets you craft more and fear less. Learning to solder panels is a whole separate art from glass cutting, and both can get expensive. Maybe try out some stepping stone mosaics first to practice your cutting skills, since glass is cheaper than solder. Broken mirror is almost a non-cost, as are concretes in small volume. You can make molds from pie pans. Set a glass image on the bottom, built upside-down, and use Crisco as a release agent. Try experiment with mixing your own concrete formulations. I remember mixing white thin-set (the stuff for ceramic tile) with 'type S' premix mortar, and it made a really nice, strong, smooth finish stone. But how do you hold glass art in place while you're vibrating the concrete?! It's a pickle, no doubt about it. One way is to build your mosaic on clear packing tape, and then tape its top surface again so that you can flip it upside-down, place it in the mold, remove the lower tape, and then cast it. Another way might be to brush a thin slip of watered-down concrete onto the package so that the later hardened disk could be set down into the mold and cast into a larger stone. Years of experiments go by quickly. Just tinker, and keep letting your interests steer you. Good luck, and ask if you get stuck! Just had another thought: since _real_ stained glass is so expensive, why couldn't we just use clear glass that's been painted on one side, instead? Then we scratch off some of the paint in swirls, and paint with another color! lol. Just thinking. Hope that wasn't a waste of your time.

@homunkoloss6782

3 жыл бұрын

@@pocket83squared thank you, i didnt expect a response that goes this much in depth, but it was a very pleasant suprise :) there are many good ideas given, what resonated the most was the part about just tinkering and following my interests. there is a lot of oportunity for what i can do with my spare time and i dont think i will be much better prepared if i wait all day long. also with your aproach of experimenting and keeping costs low at first, i cant really fail because by definition that is part of the plan. thank you again :) ill be off to start now

Great video! Good luck with the bad case of diarrhea.

I have a challenge/“is it possible” for you: can you build a similar rail system with four portable belt sanders to use as a make shift planer?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Belt sanders are probably not the best way to go. It might be more sensible to suspend a router or a portable-planer from rails for that sort of thing. Those tricks are already pretty well-established, but I do have a video about doing something similar with a circular saw: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dI15msSkm7OrZqg.html

Thank you God bless you and your family 💞

Are you using a ripping blade?

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Why is discussed in-depth in the other video.

How do you keep the log steady on the rounds it’s sitting on?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Remember, it also has a flat spot on the bottom. As for whether the log wants to tip to one side: believe it or not, you're stabilizing it with both hands as you move the saw along. After around one-half of the boards are taken away, the balance will have shifted, and so you'll need to re-center the log on the rounds.

@marka9292

3 жыл бұрын

That makes sense. One other thought how much gas did it use to mill those boards?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Tough to tell, because I top-off between boards. Around 1/2 tank per board? Keep in mind that the saw has a very small tank. The actual cost is negligible. One gallon would probably do 20-some logs.

How’s the fern in a bottle?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Quite well.

The counterweights?? Awesome!! Fact is you are using the ROUND tip of the bar versus the flat part of the bar and at the angle, you are hitting the grain......... BUTTER......kinda....LOL

how do you cut the last two boards?

@pocket83squared

4 ай бұрын

That's covered in the fourth part. Here's a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k6B3zrKBgbDLfc4.html

красота

You could add small wheels inside youre mount bracket!

Stihl makes carbide chains that stay sharp much longer that might be better for the mill.

This is insanely simple

So you're saying your jig shouldn't be used on a 40" deep log? My saw has a 24" bar which should give me 18 inch deep cut. 18 and 18 is 36. So I would have a problem cutting through. Humm, bigger chainsaw needed.🤔

Make your first cut from guide screwed to the ends instead of on top.

Getting buff with thos 5 pounders Aya

I did the same thing. I swapped STIHL green chain for yellow and it cuts each pass deeper and mills in half the time.

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

As a rule, don't try to make deeper cuts with each pass. After lots of practice, I've learned that making fast, shallow passes is the more efficient technique. The type of chainsaw you use is mostly incidental; every saw will have a unique feed-rate/cut-depth balance, but they all end up taking around the same time. If you're using this method, watch the follow-up video, and use the counterweights.

The main problem I notice is log's support, in both ends, the other parte is perfect.

@pocket83squared

Жыл бұрын

It's usually more stable than how it looked here. That time I didn't readjust back to the center of the sawhorses. If you do this, recenter your log between cuts. That said, honestly, it doesn't matter all that much. You're going to be stabilizing the whole setup with both hands as you cut. If you allow this setup to tip over, you probably have bigger problems.

I think you should turnaround your chainsaw..so chainsaw is not on the outside ..but over the big piece of wood..then no need for counterbalance

@pocket83squared

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't work like that. Give it some thought, and you'll start to understand why.

What the fuck? Just a couple of days ago I was recommended that video from last season and now you publish this? How?

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Springtime is log season. There's a boom in demand. Also, watch your fucking mouth; you're in public.

Next video - DIY Imodium

11:33 is where i will return :D

With the price of wood now, you could trade that for a used car

@jdniedner

3 жыл бұрын

Had to take out a second mortgage for a 2x8 the other day...

Informative video but talk too much.

@pocket83squared

Жыл бұрын

Go buy the coloring book then, or figure it out for yourself. This process takes a lot of explanation in order to do correctly.

I really like your DIY videos. Even if you don't want to hear it, you owe it to yourself and especially your views, to use proper safety equipment. Chaps, gloves, boots, eye and ear protection, and dust mask are a must with what you are doing. If you continue on this route, you'll unfortunately find that you could have avoided the inevitable life-altering, or life taking accident. If not for you safety, you still owe it to your views. I'd like to see your continued success.

@pocket83squared

Жыл бұрын

Nicely framed nonsense. First of all, viewers: in today's world, safety is a supersaturate. This is so not only in the corporate structure, but also in the culture at large. I challenge you to find a roadside drop that is without guide-rail, or a drainage pond that's not enclosed by a fence. Protective afterthoughts have subsumed the majority of planning & responsibility, and an over-reliance on gear has created a misplaced trust that displaces deliberate thought. I will not participate in the further stupefying of my audience; this channel remains focused on developing problem-solving as part of self-reliance. As for my personal behaviors, you may make one of two assumptions about me: you can consider me either competent or not. If you do, then you might give similar credence to my procedure, and consider that I've made my own cost-benefit considerations about what equipment is "a must." If you do not, then I suggest you go elsewhere for information. In either case, I can do without the polite sanctimony.

@brianm5032

Жыл бұрын

@@pocket83squared wow, your a mean kind of stupid.

@brianm5032

Жыл бұрын

@@pocket83squared forgot to mention thst you are extremely arrogant, as well. You'd do your views a favor, by taking constructive criticism and learning from it. I'll no longer be viewing your channel. You're welcome.

@pocket83squared

Жыл бұрын

@@brianm5032 A thanks is certainly in order; if you don't see my point, I don't want you here. Oh, and don't forget to put on your helmet before you go!

@pocket83squared

Жыл бұрын

Mean _to_ the kind of stupid, you mean.

Whats next.....a tripod over the top to hold up the chainsaw? Dude, you got skill..... just build an effen adjustable jig out of metal. I'm sure you can weld, if not, invent a new way to weld...it just doesn't end, man.

@pocket83squared

3 жыл бұрын

Why? What benefit does a metal one have? If I were to go that far, I'd build a proper 'Alaskan' framed mill. But since I rarely fell material that exceeds a 15" diameter, a low-commitment mill like this one is far more practical. It's just like _Fight Club;_ you determine your own level of involvement. For my part, I'll probably mill around two 8' chunks every season.

:)

No PPE equipment. Good way to lose a large chunk of leg.

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

My inordinately large brain will be my shield. As for you, it's probably best if you keep repeating safety mantra while donning some orange brand-name chaps. Pick up that jaw. You asked for it.

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Where is your safety equipment?

@pocket83squared

2 жыл бұрын

It's with your badge. Show me yours, and I'll show you mine.

I hate the people that only comment on what your not doing and not focusing on what you are

Thanks for movie, thanks that i discover counterbalace "soulutuion" I did that without:)