As a freediving instructor who operates in the same areas where this video was filmed, I'd like to go on record that I condemn publicly advocating freediving in an overhead environment like this. This inspires novices to try it, and there are better, safer places to push yourself in freediving. I hope this individual is prepared to have death on his conscience. Not to mention lights are not permitted in Ginnie caves unless you're a certified cave diver. Bottom line is, sure, he's giving you tips on doing this unsafe activity as safely as possible, BUT, I'd like to hear him explain how he's obeying the most important rule of freediving: never dive alone. Assuming he had one, how will his buddy help him if the buddy has no direct eye-line? He has no chance of being recovered if (when) he gets hit with a blackout. Any experienced instructor will tell you that blackouts will occur unpredictably. I'm not perfect, I have done cave crawling like this when I was a novice, but have since moved on to safer practices. I have seen four die in this way since I started.

@dhead64

2 жыл бұрын

Hey David! David Head here; you just wrote what I was thinking. Especially about sight-line/eye-line. And I have seen those deaths as well.

@alanstevens949

2 жыл бұрын

The comment I was looking for. Thanks.

@charlesg7926

2 жыл бұрын

Free diving is trendy but if you have the desire to go into caves, BECOME A CERTIFIED SCUBA DIVER (AND THEN STUDY CAVE DIVING ONLINE EXTENSIVELY) AT THE VERY FREAKIN’ LEAST! (And yes get certified if you have a week off to do it, and have the money)

@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk

2 жыл бұрын

Rules again…. When will people learn that there are no rules. We have legal legislation and beyond that the rest is just recommendation and common practice . How we ever get to the moon with so many self appointed guardians I just do not know. I have never heard such mighty BS that you can’t free dive in a cave because lights are not allowed. 🤦‍♂️ If people wana push the boundaries and die doing so then it’s their choice. Many might argue that free diving generally is dangerous and that you should not do it yet you do so because you are vested with liberty so don’t judge others less you end up being judged and curtailed yourself.

@davidcobiella6577

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk the freedom / liberty mindset is very ideal. Reality is where dive sites are closed to the public for years due to one person with that mindset biting it, and their family suing the owners of the site.

"10 tips for skinny dipping in a volcano as safely as possible."

10 TIPS FOR FREE DIVING IN CAVES: 1) Don't 2) Just don't 3) seriously...re-think your life 4) make better choices 5) finalize your last will and testament pre-dive 6) dive with lots of glowsticks to assist those looking to find your body 7) learn to accept the certainty of your demise 8) prepare to meet your maker 9) Master a really cool death look...so that your remains don't cause those working to retrieve your body to have a heart attack when they finally find you 10) consider just getting properly trained and equipped for cave diving so you don't become just another fatality statistic and get to enjoy a long career of cave diving and exploration

@darinmuir4008

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@donnakawana

2 жыл бұрын

This made my bloody life at the moment... All perfect tips #5,#6

@brianjensen5661

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao!!

@TheCornDavis

2 жыл бұрын

Number 9 had me wheezing 😂🤣

@Dandeb19

Жыл бұрын

Hysterical

I had a dream recently that I was in a cave with thigh-deep water, checking it out with some other people, and my initial reaction within the dream was "hey guys, this is an overhead environment, we don't have the training or equipment for this, we should leave now." Your lessons apparently have seeped into my subconscious, very nice!

@megami.x

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome lol

@Phoenixhunter157

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂👏👏👏

@TheCornDavis

2 жыл бұрын

I have been having Dive Talk dreams too 😂 it’s like when you’re allergic to some type of food irl and your brain won’t let you eat it even in a dream. You’re brain is like “nope! You know better! Dream or not” lol

@Monsterkiku

Жыл бұрын

Same here 😂 because of those guys my first diving lesson ever is going to be next monday 😂😂.

@Nate_Higgins

Жыл бұрын

Would you consider that a wet dream?

1. The only people who are allowed to have lights in the devils system at Ginnie are full cave divers…so this guy is already breaking the rules. 2. Last time I was in the ballroom, two divers started (slowly) going out just after a free diver went in. Trying to exit he was trapped behind them while they had no idea he was there. By the time he had room to get around them he was almost in full panic! Going into an enclosed overhead environment on a breath hold is just dumb!

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

AGREED!

@TheBen9701

2 жыл бұрын

The light rule is maybe the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I understand that if you don’t have a light you won’t dive as far (probably) But if I’m going to dive a cave I’m not supposed to be in anyway of course I’m going to bring a light to increase my chance of survival! Banning lights is completely dangerous for those who wish to live their life accordingly

@richardkilburn2253

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBen9701 Perhaps, but I am certain it has more to do with liability and a little to do with the ability to remove individuals breaking this rule. IF the spring watchers (those who work for Ginnie and look for armbands at the springs) see you with a light and no cave armband, they have the right to remove you. They also can avoid being sued if you take a light into the cave without training. If you drown, they can show that you signed that you would not do such a thing.

@TheBen9701

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardkilburn2253 that makes alot of sense

@richardkilburn2253

2 жыл бұрын

@Jane Smith In what case? I could not get to the free diver before they were able to get around the divers and leave the cave. In general, I would always offer someone a regulator before I let them drown. However, as I understand it, free divers know little of lung over expansion. If I ever offer a reg to a non-diver, I am grabbing on to them TIGHTLY so we can ascend together.

As a freediving instructor I know, not one of the big organizations is teaching cave freediving. There is not much room for error, if that would be a real course, it's just a matter of time until someone is going to die - way too dangerous.

I think you can make a video called 'top tips for safely cave diving'. Make a 4 hour video of the both of you sitting there repeating "get cave certified"

@benjie128

2 жыл бұрын

Could literally just do a montage of clips where they've said exactly that.

@tomdeu79

2 жыл бұрын

I think the first cave diver in history did not have a certificate! Think about it! With the words of Arnold Schwarzenegger: Screw your Certificate :-)

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewr2349 I just want to make sure you guys understand that cave diving and freediving is NOT the same thing. Just like we have rules for driving a motorcycle that don't apply to riding a bycicle. The activities might be similar, and some things do apply to both, but they are not the same thing.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly Gus. Seems they missed that big time. Big difference and what I said was I’m not really experienced enough in free diving to critique it properly. Zero to do with cave dive training.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewr2349 this is Woody. Faking? I’m confused on your comment but nevertheless this is free diving which I said I wasn’t qualified to properly critique on what he said. Zero to do with cave diving for scuba divers and the fact that all cave divers should be cave certified. Two totally different things. Not sure what or how free divers train for caves. A free diving instructor would need to comment on that .

I love how Woody is always trying to get Gus to do stuff and Gus is just like, no xD

@mattk8810

2 жыл бұрын

They must go gold diving though lol

@BluTheMermaid

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattk8810 agreed haha

@xenostim

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like Gus eventually gives in though. I imagine 30yrs ago... Woody: "Gus, we are going to learn how to scuba dive." Gus: "no" Woody: "yes" And the rest was history.

Not once did he mention the number 1 rule of freediving. Never dive alone.

@skepticmoderate5790

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like he be diving alone all the time.

@Kratos-eg7ez

9 ай бұрын

I mean IF this video is for experts only, he'd probably assume you already know that. Also how many free divers are experts enough to do what he's doing and going that far? I wouldn't bring a novice or even intermediate level free diver that's for damn sure. Idk I think free diving caves is very dumb, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt for super expert free divers. Like I can't hold my breath for 5+ minutes, I've never even tried basic free diving either. He made good points, and if these experts are gonna do it I think it's a good video. Still dumb tho

There needs to be a Dive Talk shirt with "That's bananas" on it.

@kat-nd3un

2 жыл бұрын

PLEASE!!

@NATTOP

2 жыл бұрын

@@kat-nd3un aswell as "Stay on the line" or "Get certified"

@Spinikar

2 жыл бұрын

I'd buy that

@afwaller

2 жыл бұрын

This shit is BANANAS B A N A N A S

There's no SAFE way to free dive in an overhead environment. There's no redundancy... Free diving that deep at all is scary, if anything goes wrong you just die. With scuba we always try to have a backup plan for everything that could go wrong. This guy is amazing but he is taking HUGE risks with his life.

@jtcustomknives

9 ай бұрын

Are you a free diver that specializes in caves? If not then you can’t say it is or isn’t. Just like non cave divers can’t pass judgment on cave divers because thy think it’s dangerous and shouldn’t done. I would say free diving has less overall risk as there is zero reliance on equipment. It’s all you and if you know your limits then that’s your guide.

@penguin12902

9 ай бұрын

@jtcustomknives I didn't say people shouldn't do it. I just said there's no safe way to do so. Think about it logically and you'll see there's no secondary safety mechanism. You said yourself it's all on you.

This is like free-soloing. It can be done, but it should only be done by someone who is entirely aware of the consequences (and not just for themselves)

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

I would happily take the criticism too and be on the safe side. Just don't do it. This guy should take his video down in all honesty. I can understand his intent to try and be helpful, but the path to hell is paved with good intentions. You guys are absolutely taking the right stance by refusing to encourage this. This is one of those hobbies/sports that 100% requires careful training to go ahead with - and a youtube video is not the place to learn those skills.

Top 5 tips for cave diving. 1) Become trained in all equipment needed for cave diving 2)Train some more with all equipment necessary for cave diving 3) GET TRAINED ON HOW TO DIVE IN CAVES FROM A CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR!!!!! 4) Dive with experienced cave divers 5)Get more training!!!!!! 6) (Bonus) STAY THE HECK OUT OF CAVES UNTIL PROPERLY TRAINED!

@xPlaguefearx

2 жыл бұрын

There might be a thousand people on earth who can hold their breath long enough to penetrate that deep into

Imagine STARTING a cave dive in an out-of-air scenario! Find your thrills somewhere else lol

Lol you can tell just how stressed out Gus is watching this guy. As if cave diving with all the right equipment and training isn't dangerous enough, free diving a cave is next-level insanity.

@Narusasu98

2 жыл бұрын

To me it seems like a lot of free divers like to tease death to prove something to others, or themselves

video: [starts] gus: [immediate giggling] woody: [smashing spacebar] it wont p a u s e

There have been so many deaths from divers who arent cave trained and "just want to go in a little bit." They end up getting turned around and lost. This just seems bananas to me, and so incredibly dangerous. I fully agree with woody in saying the "how to" videos are a hazard because people will think they can KZread it and then jump in. Let's face it, there are a lot of stupid people out there. We have common sense so it's hard to wrap your head around those who don't, but they are out there in abundance. There definitely will be that section of people that will look up a how to video to cave dive and just go for it.

@gnarthdarkanen7464

Жыл бұрын

I've seen Scuba gear at the flea markets, estate sales, and liquidations of everything from pool supply to pawn shops... I can admit there was a certain itch when I was admiring the fins, tanks, masks... As far as I knew at the time "all the kit you need to get started"... AND I could have laid down 500 bucks cash and owned it... ALL of it... Mix that potential temptation with a YT video TEACHING about this kind of thing... and the next thing you know, there's somebody with more money than brains on a half a tank of air jumping into the figurative "deep end" and very quickly getting into trouble they can't possibly handle... regardless of dive plan or lack thereof. I bought a motorcycle instead, since I actually KNOW SOMETHING about those. I think I made the wiser decision, all things considered. ;o)

He gives a lot of advices. But in the end It feels like no one should EVER do what he does, except for top of the top professionals, as you both Said.

@ts552

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a cave diver but 7 minutes into the video, I found myself saying "are you guys really gonna play this ? This is bullshit."

@megami.x

2 жыл бұрын

Even if you’re a “professional” at whatever this is, you’re not immune to drowning. He has no back up plan.

@andrewr2349

2 жыл бұрын

@@ts552 not only do they play it but they endorse it. They completely disregard the 5 rules they used to talk about. This guy went into caves and didn’t follow even 1 rule and woody saying he wants to try it. This episode was irresponsible in so many ways

@LATERZA00

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewr2349 I guess there are people out there doing this kind of thing. If so, the guy is giving advices about It. It is something we don't do but I guess for some few guys It is a sport.

@LATERZA00

2 жыл бұрын

@@megami.x Good point. I guess the people that do this kind of thing can hold their breath for a really long time so It is legit, not fantasy. Dangerous? Fucking yes. WOULD NOT RECOMMEND buuut for those who do this the guy is actually giving good advice. Not for everyone tho

I'm scuba diver and a freediver. I NEVER go in ship wrecks underwater caves and basicly I never go inside something underwater. Bad things hapens very fast and we only have one life. Be safe and use your brain. Love how Woody said : "Don't, don't go into the cave when you freedive. That's my tip Nr.1". Keep the good work.

I'm glad you aren't giving regular public ideas on how to cave dive. Saving yourself from that liability from whoever hurts themselves or worse following your advice. I'm so glad you guys are so conscious of the publics safety. Thanks for caring about us guys!!!

Freediving into a cave? Jesus no. I almost bought scuba gear to retreive a toy from the deep end of our pool.

25:21 Yeah he's very impressive. I just wish he'd emphasize the difficulty of what he's doing. Being humble is great, but he's making it seem like something anyone can do with a little practice.

@penguin12902

2 жыл бұрын

And the danger. Literally ANYTHING goes wrong and he dies. There's zero redundancy.

I thought he was nuts before, and I still think he is nuts after watching it. So much can go wrong, and as a free diver you are operating with much less time to figure out a solution to any problems that come up. Learning to recognize the rocks to find your way back out sounds like total insanity.

I love how Gus uses "bananas" instead of "crazy"

@petrapedia

2 жыл бұрын

I love that it's more inclusive of those with mental illness/personality disorders. Implies poor judgment rather than mental defect.

Pulling on rocks etc seems crazy dangerous to a layman like me. Silting, possibly causing a path to get blocked by a dislodged log etc or even destabilising/weakening the supportive rock structure. It certainly seems like he is not emphasising the dangers or prior experience/training needed to be able todo such free dives. Because of that it wouldn’t surprise me if ppl see his video and try it, as the wording etc is all very casual.

7:52 I respect your hesitation to criticize, but if someone is skilled and experienced enough to freedive into a cave they're not watching KZread for these basic tips. That's for people who are new to the activity, people who absolutely shouldn't enter an underwater cave, especially without any gear.

I feel by the tone of the comments here, you guys should do a whole episode about freediving with someone who does It and has done for a long time. 😁✨

@kyleburlette2196

2 жыл бұрын

Best comment I have seen by far... You are on point my boy...

@25mand57

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

I am not a diver of any kind but I love all your vids. Keep it going guys. Your personalities and chemistry are brilliant

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

Cool! Please do more of such reaction with no preparations. It looks very natural. I think that disagreement between two of you in such reactions is not a bad thing eather. Just live reactions of two experienced divers. Good job!

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Noted!

Don’t overthink it. This guy’s “advice” is bananas.

@digitalproductions4758

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, agreed. It's as if his video is some sort of "supplement" for those who are already experienced and yet he's presenting like it's "just for anyone".

@Strype13

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like bananas should have gotten the quotes, there.

@vell0cet517

2 жыл бұрын

Playing Russian Roulette seem like a safer hobby. This is madness wrapped in bananas….

@Strype13

2 жыл бұрын

@@vell0cet517 Definitely shouldn't be playing Russian Roulette unless you have a decent grasp on statistical analysis...

@mikewilliams235

2 жыл бұрын

Explain to me why it's 'bananas'? You seem disconnected from the realities of your own species.

My fear of not being able to find my way to the surface precludes me getting any sort of enjoyment from the scenery........which is absolutely beautiful while watching these videos safely in my room!! Of course I'm not, nor will I ever be anything close to being a diver. But I love watching these, Woody and Gus!

He may never get hurt. Maybe, he's that good at it. BUT, his video giving tips may encourage others that aren't so good at it to emulate him and that may not be a good thing. 14 tips is not a curriculum; is not a course; and shouldn't even be a video IMO. You won't find this as a course within any reputable training agency. Too many dangers including ones that weren't in his 14 tips.

@_e5598

2 жыл бұрын

what would you think about free-soloing tips?

@diveguy7123

2 жыл бұрын

@@_e5598 I would have a similar attitude; however, free-soloing is a super elite area that far fewer novice people could even overcome their own fears to try. Free diving on the other hand lends itself to a larger audience of attempts IMO. Therefore, if Alex Honnold were giving tips on how to free solo; I think far fewer people would be likely to try any of those tips at all as compared to say if Herbert Nitsch were giving tips on free diving in caves. All absurd, to be sure. Free Solo is supported by a community of people that do it. Is it dangerous? Yes. Are novices likely to attempt it? No, I don't think so. That can't be said for freediving in caves. The dangers there are not so obvious. Way more could happen than a novice would ever even realize by listening to "tips". Having been in many caves myself (on scuba), I have a healthy respect for that environment. People don't belong there period without proper training and equipment. If this gentleman wants to found an educational curriculum for free diving in caves, I think he'd have an impossible task ahead of him. This nor free solo is something you'd take a class on anyway. I wouldn't certify you even if it were a thing. Too much possibility of you dying. These activities may benefit more from a mentor/apprentice relationship. That is the kind of care and attention that would be required.

@_e5598

2 жыл бұрын

@@diveguy7123 I understand the accessibility aspect, but I think in that way a lot of what you said about cave diving is still true for free soloing. Turns out this guy knew what he was talking about. I think your familiarity with caves means you know the dangers and thus take your perspective. You are right about people's natural fear of heights keeping them off the wall, but the statement "People don't belong there period without proper training and equipment" is true for even standing at the base. My equivalent hobby is back country ski touring. If you follow the rules, you can massively mitigate risk; if you don't have gear (let alone training) there is not much we can do for you if something DOES go wrong (if you are buried without a beacon, you die) Does that mean that I would automatically say that you can't go anywhere near the snow without gear? Depends, as it did in this video. I agree with you that this video makes it seem extremely accessible, but I don't think your avg breath holder is finding themselves poking around caves much either. People ought to have more respect for water in general

I enjoyed the point he made about air pockets being an unknown variable, just because you took just a s big of a breath as you normally would, doesn't mean you got the same amount of air as you normally would. Never really took time to think of it like that, but then again never been in a cave at all lol..

Long time fan of Dive Talk!!! I love this comment section too. Almost always civil, open minded and almost never controversial. This video seems to strike a nerve however and is an outlier. I do think that is for a reason. I mean this as respectfully as possible but I think there is a disconnect on what you are saying and what people are hearing. Something you can’t explain in a comment section. What people heard on this video was a deviation from the usual safety always first. Free diving is not as safe as scuba diving, I think people can agree. It’s an extreme sport meant for the top 1%. When you add caves into the mix, all it does is make a bad situation worse. I think we can agree that parallels between diving and free diving. So I believe where people are coming from is you failed to recognize that parallel well enough, it happens. I had the same thoughts as many of these people questioning why this was talked about without some sort of disclosure of never doing this. You are not our mom its not your job to tell us what’s safe and people should recognize that too. I think a great idea would be to honestly do research and make a comparison video. What it takes to do both. What caves add to each of these. Last thing I want to mention and you may want to keep in mind as your channel grows because I know for a fact you’ll be at 1,000,000 subs if you keep it up. You are filling arenas with some videos. You are filling stadiums with others. You owe no one your attention. Community engagement is amazing for a channel it gives people and attachment to it. However Beyoncé is not expected to meet all 250,000 people in attendance at the Super Bowl when she performs in half time and you aren’t expected to explain yourself to each of your viewers. Hope the best for you two. Go Dawgs.

I've watched enough dive talk to shout "don't freedive in the cave!!" Facepalm, hard facepalm.

@victoriacorrao4355

2 жыл бұрын

Haha me too

Jumped to this video off of the Audrey Mestre react. Had to decompress from that heart-wrenching watch, and this was exactly what I needed! Right off, Woody's cute head scarf already made me smile. 😊 I love the lightness of this video from a year ago. Thanks, Woody and Gus!! 💕 🤍 💗

You guys were the last push I needed to finally go get certified, thank you so much!

Its so hard for me to believe hes doing all this without air... he seems so calm and to just be enjoying the dive looking around... gotta be a guiness record breath hold... it seems so impossible for many reasons... that being said, I really enjoyed his video and how beautiful the caves are. lol ill shut up now 😄 I keep having things to say.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, there’s a group of guys doing this, he’s not the only one

"Hyperventilating causes shallow water blackouts" I'll take credit for that. Left that comment awhile ago. Just kidding. Seriously though great content. I love how you guys learn and keep an open mind about things. I'll never consider myself an expert at anything. That's when you stop learning and accidents happen.

@richardbuse228

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't hyperventilating basically what a free diver does before every dive?

@cjmeyers2926

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardbuse228 the body's compensation for decreased CO2 is to go nighty night. It slows the breathing down increasing the CO2. Pretty harmless on land but deadly in the water.

@803F

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjmeyers2926 It's not so much your body compensating for decreased CO2 that makes you lose consciousness. The CO2 concentration would be lowest just as a freediver takes their last breath and goes under. It's the lack of CO2 signalling that it is time to breathe that makes someone stay under and run out of oxygen without seeing it coming.

I'm not a water person, I can swim, but I don't. I don't do pools, lakes, ponds, and definitely not oceans. I'm not afraid of water but I do have a lot of respect for water. However, I find this podcast absolutely fascinating and I'm living vicariously through you guys, thanks for the entertainment.

I see you guys are getting a lot of flack for this one. I’ve been binge watching your videos for 3 days straight. I have no interest in ever even Scuba diving. I know I would panic. But anyway, it’s very clear that cave diving and free diving at caverns and caves are two totally different things, I still Think it’s super dangerous and I don’t see the allure to free dive even a second into a cave but like you’ve said, you can’t apply all the same rules here because it’s two totally different ball games! Good work as always guys! Love every video and love the way you too interact. A perfect duo!!

Thank you for doing this and for warning freedivers to avoid caves. I live in Newberry and am an experienced freediver who is at Ginnie a lot and never would I venture into a cave-ever. Once while at Ginnie a teenage boy around 14 came up out of Little Devil and nearly blacked out. If kids like that see the video you've reviewed, the video only encourages them that what they are doing is not foolhardy but something they can do fine with a few tips.

@squarecracker

Жыл бұрын

People freedive those systems LITERALLY every day of the year. I'm in gville and have been probably 30 times this year, met other freedivers in the caves every single time. IDK why people act like you watch a video then somehow don't lose the urge to breathe or get absolutely PANIC as you are swimming into the darkness. Little Devil isn't even overhead for gosh sakes. The same thing could happen in a swimming pool. The real risk is going into a tight cave where you can't turn around, like Dogwood. Ginnie Cavern you have a much greater risk of somoene dropping a rock on you or getting stabbed by a drunk than you do accidently going to far and running out of air.

i would like to say thank you to gus and woody, as of watching you guys made want to try scuba. I just pass my open water. thank you so much for that much love to you two.

Sorry to get technical but took a course in College called Soils. And there is a difference between silt, clay and sand. You don't call sand silt just because its in a cave. Silt is silt and sand is sand. Clay is the smallest particle size, silt is the next biggest particle and sand is the largest. And in water they settle in this in layers usually sand on the bottom silt on top of that and clay on the top. They settle this way because the sand sinks to the bottom the fastest while the clay and the silt stay suspended in the water silt being heavier sinks next then the clay settle on top. This is why in caves with a high flow in them there will be less silt and clay and more sand, the clay and silt get blown away by the rushing water leaving the heavier sand. And in low flow/stagnant cave there will be more silt and clay covering up the sand. By the way all 3 of these particles are made up of the same thing broken down rocks.

Half the sites in this video absolutely prohibit free diving in overhead environments. For that I fault him. Encouraging dangerous activity is one thing, risking a site getting closed to EVERYONE, since its already closed to free diving... is stupid.

The extent of my freediving is me holding my breathe swimming underwater but I sure as hell would never swim in a cave and see how long I can hold my breathe but I noticed there's channels that react badly to other peoples bad comments and will turn off the comments just because of a few people I wouldn't worry about them because most of us agree with you.

@yojayoung

Жыл бұрын

The extent of my freediving is holding my breath in the bath lol

Basically he's saying "If you are going to take this risk, here is how to minimize the chances of something going wrong."

I really found this one thought provoking. Freediving starts with a different premise - you only explore and return on one lungful of air, no back up, no equipment - free. The dangers it seems would be overestimating how far a lungful of air will take you and getting stuck (same for scuba). A buddy wouldn't do you any good because they wouldn't have spare air and the effort of dragging you out unconscious would over extend them. They could get help though but it would be too late for you. Mmm .... dangerous but fascinating and even amazing. I liked one comment comparing it to wingsuits (same differences between parachutes and all the rules and equipment and wingsuit 'flying'). I think its really about our need to challenge ourselves - like mountain climbers, or even astronauts. Getting up Everest with or without oxygen, diving - free or otherwise. Putting ourselves into alien environments and conquering our fears, overcoming challenges and pushing ourselves to the limits seems to be part of human nature. What one person sees as extreme and dangerous (that would be 'bananas' Woody) another sees as an invitation. I love your channel by the way

What happened to “never go into a cave without a line”? This is incredibly stupid. I don’t care how good of a free driver you are. One mistake and you’re dead.

I love seeing everyone literally at each others throats in the comments over this video. If anything I think Woody and Gus kinda held their tongues and took a different approach to this seeing as it was Free Diving and not Cave Diving with gear. I think maybe you guys could have been a little harder on this guy though… although you assumed this is for just the more advanced free divers he never once mentioned that or had any kind of disclaimer besides his basically making a joke out of the overall danger of cave diving. The fact he put this out there and it’s readily available to anyone means it’s inevitable that it’s going to be attempted now by people who are far underprepared and overconfident because they watched his video and think they have it all figured out now.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said and constructive point. We agree and appreciate these types of constructive comments. Thank you!

@aarondillon5986

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIVETALK no no no! Thank YOU! Both Gus AND Woody! If not for you two… I’d not even have any interest in these topics, let alone have the sense/knowledge now, to even realize just how dangerous this stuff can be. Only a couple months ago I knew absolutely nothing about diving, cave diving, rebreathers, etc. Etc. Now I’m just eager to learn more and it’s all because of this channel.

Not even a diver, but I watch everything you put out because I love the little nuggets of information dropped by people who are so passionate about doing their hobby safely. I will never not be grateful for the times you warn about hyperventhilating and shallow water blackout. Thank you. -FG (For Gabriel)

"test it little by little. When you drown, that's when you'll know you've gone too far."

Well what a nice surprise. Was just watching some of your other videos and this pops up :) keep up the great content. I have never been diving but really enjoy learning about all the different stuff.

Experience or not this just seems insanely dangerous, what if he silts out a cave can he use a line to get out? If one thing goes wrong he's toast. He's not dumb but I still think he has more balls than brains.

I always love watching you guys. I thank you for all the incredible research and information. It helped me connect better with my brother in law who was rebreather trained in the military. I can't thank you enough for such a great show and such interesting topics.

Love the difference in perspectives between you two!! Such a great and informative video!

Just found this channel and I'm loving this content. You guys really rock and are very entertaining to watch.

Being an experienced freediver, let me confirm, diving into caves is NOT something we are recommended to do, or train specifically to do. I have been in deep swim-throughs, but there is so much safety, studying the exits and entrances, plotting the route, and communication with my buddy and the surface involved ahead of those dives... He didn't mention a buddy once, though, did he? I really hope that freediving novices won't think that this is safe to do.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you posted this. Thanks

Should've added the tip, "If lost find the line!" Or the importance of the line in general. Think that would've been a great tip but overall impressed. I wouldn't dare tho

The guy might know what he is doing, and has obviously been doing it a long time (and not died). But it seems incredibly dangerous to format his video in a set of 'easy to follow in order to not die tips.' If he had made the video purely for experts in the field, then I think he would have stated at the start. Honestly the entire thing came off to me as a testosterone fueled 'look at all the dangerous stuff I can do' video.

Great reaction guys ! Thanks for the upload !!

Hey guys! Few months ago I started to think about scuba diving. I did some research about this sport and found your channel and Jonathan's Blue World channel, since then I've gotten fascinated about going under water. That's Dive Talk that really tought me a how to respect and approach diving safely. At first I had a plan to attend a scuba trip in some warm water place like Grece or Egipt. But after watching a lot of your content, the first thing I did, was getting certified for OWD at harsh Polish lake environment where visibility is poor, water cold, and silt is easily agitated, to be prepared even for simple shallow scuba diving elsewhere. This is the start of a diving jurney for me. Thank you for putting the awareness about diving safety here on KZread.

as someone who has been SCUBA diving a total of 1 times, who isnt much of a fan of swimming (love fishing and being on the water though), i find your videos excellent. informative. instructional. engaging. fun. it makes me want to learn how to dive, one day. love your honesty and focus on critical thinking and the importance of doing things the right way, instructing the right way. hope you guys keep it coming!!

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Keep up the great work woody and gus...been loving all the content!

Great Video, I was creased at Gus laughing at the beginning XD This video did not turn out like I thought it was going to! I thought the same as you guys that he was going to be dangerous, but I agree he had some very good points!

I love how Woody's advice often just boils down to "DON'T" xD

@jeski82

Жыл бұрын

and then later he's been converted by this guy xD P.S. I'm a recent subscriber, I'm not a diver but I love watching your videos while doing my 3D work. Lots of great visual references for an environment artist! Thanks guys :D

BANANAS....thought the vid was literally called that and thought"mmmn how appropriate".and you are so modest Woody,saying you're both newbie divers.Goodman...cant wait for this!!!can hear the giggling"Silence at the back,Gus!"!!!

If I were a free diver I still wouldnt be free diving into a cave. It just seems like a food way to get yourself killed.

Thank you so much for all of the content!

As someone who has gone freediving into some of the caverns shown in this guy's video, and someone who long ago watched this guy's video looking for tips to make these dives more safely, I appreciate DiveTalk's reaction to this video. To non-freedivers, I understand how insane the idea of cavern/cave freediving sounds. As a scuba diver myself, I understand the danger that caverns and caves pose to divers, the respect they deserve, and the training required to explore them safely. But I think it's important to understand that to a freediver experienced in gauging their own breath-holding capacity and maintaining utmost relaxation during a dive, swimming into a cavern is not a frantic dash into death's jaws-it's a peaceful, incremental, and disciplined venture into a beautiful environment. Limited by the constraints of a lungful of air, freedivers don't have to worry (generally speaking) about some of the concerns critical to cave divers because they can't venture nearly as far into the caverns/caves they visit, they can't stage bottles or lay lines, they don't have to plan decompression profiles, they have lower risk of gear snags/entanglements, etc. The cavern/cave risks which do apply to freedivers (such as silt-outs, navigation challenges, not breathing air pockets, etc.) are well addressed by the guy who made the original video. Woody and Gus, I appreciate that you guys didn't just write this guy off as entirely crazy. As you note, his safety advice is on point. Freediving into caverns is an activity that can be undertaken incrementally, going only into spaces and to depths where the diver feels comfortable. The guy in the original video went into some places where I wouldn't, but I assume he did so according to his own experience level and appetite for risk. Cave divers also make similar considerations when they plan their dives, since cave dives are not all created equal in terms of difficulty and potential danger.

Love your reactions... Gus laughing made me bust out laughing too 🤣🤣🤣

This is where I grew up and had been going in all the cave in north Florida for years but one thing they should never have is a light. doing this is what made me get into full cave diving when there was very few doing it

I have no idea how this guy can enjoy the cave. There would only be one thing on my mind the whole time I was down there.😂

Best video from you guys, loved every second Gus were laughing ✌️😋 more of those insane videos with double live reactions please 🌞🌍

That freediver hasn't uploaded anything in 5 years....he probably drowned doing what he loved.

Hey guys, it’s me and I know I’m late to this party, but I just wanted to say that freediving Florida spring caves is a new sport and I’m one of the trailblazers. I’ve noticed it growing in popularity over the years and I see too many yahoos freediving these caverns with little common sense. Instead of condemning them, I want to educate them. I used to be like them and had too many close calls. Since this is new, there isn’t any official training for it. And unfortunately too many scuba divers criticize it with the lens of cave scuba diving. It’s a different sport with different rules. My video was intended for everyone, novices and experts. Knowledge should be shared with all, thus growing a novice into an expert. It’s taken me years to advance to this level of freediving. Also, thanks for being understanding with my video.

I have a few points to make. All the rock grabbing could damage the cave and could throw up silt, with free diving fins you can only flutter kick causing a higher risk for silt, and how would you test a restriction to see if you would be able to turn around in it without going in it? Also y'all's point about how it seems it's directed towards anyone, professional or otherwise

@un_civilized

2 жыл бұрын

Although if you're just going down caverns and hi flow caves none of these may even be an issue. P.S. please don't try this one woody

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Not one I want to try, no worries!

Respect to the commenters for their objective discussions progressing more through the video and the original video poster for clearly having skill and an experienced outlook on performing this kind of free diving. Agreed on the fact that the video in discussion is most certainly taylored to very VERY experienced and capable freedivers. Nice video.

Awesome reactions, Dive Talk!

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Man get this guy for interview, this shit is crazy bad ass.

I'm a bit shocked how many people went to the OG video and went: "Heard about you on Dive Talk, Amazing stuff dude". This is not amazing, that's one of the dumbest thing's I've ever seen. Scary stuff. Glad you two focus on safety. Sorry, but even if the video is intended for super experienced free divers, a lot of divers without experience will think "I can do this"

Love your videos have learned so much and i don't dive I have very bad anxiety and panic attacks so i prob will never dive but i tell everyone i hear say they want to learn to watch you guys

Even though this guy is "experienced" as a free-diver, he's really just gotten this far by luck alone. Sure, most of his tips are good (assuming you're highly experienced). But it only takes one unexpected thing/something to go wrong and now your "plan" while in there on one breath is changed. I still think it's not a good idea. If you're also sharing a dive space with other people, what happens when someone gets in your way on your way out? Or you run into something or someone? Drop your flashlight? So many variables that as long as everything goes just right, you may be okay but if you run into a problem, you've now put yourself into unnecessary danger.

theres no margin for error how would you prepare for something to go wrong if you have no means at all things only gotta go wrong once having no room to make a mistake at all is scary

Hahaha woody literally every video: “this is so dangerous guys…” And then Gus cracking up on the other side of the screen, priceless! 😂

You pair of mad lads, diving in a cave. That's the stuff of nightmares for me.

"i've seen people go in without flashlights, and that's just crazy" i feel like there could be a matryoshka doll of react videos of ppl calling each other crazy for increasingly crazy activities lmao

@katamine11

2 ай бұрын

Lmao you’re absolutely right 😂 well put

forget woody and buzz, its all about woody and gus

@hkmrsrg1367

2 жыл бұрын

Gus Lightyear to the rescue!

nothing to add nor to change, you are as always legit! keep it up, we need more. :)

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

Love your videos guys really wish I could get into diving unfortunately no good water near me but atleast your videos help me get that fix lol keep it up guys wish i could dive with ya

A lot of people find a lot of negative with what he is doing, and from what i can see hes just a random dude, perfectly comfortable with taking the risk, perfectly in sync with his body and its capabilities. This is by far not the longest or the farthest someone has gone in the water without any gear on. I think it is it is admirable, the only objection i have is that the start of the video doesn't have a disclaimer saying that only experienced people should even consider this. From what i judge this is a "guide" for everyone. I personally have nothing against him diving caves. After all i completely understand how he feels inside water and that is that u were born to be in it. Me and this dude are on same wavelength.

@neues3691

2 жыл бұрын

It's just absurdly reckless, with such a limited "supply" of air and time there is no margin for error so he is screwed if something unforseen happens

@FannyPackMan100

2 жыл бұрын

The problem with his video is that it encourages other people to make the same needless risk. People who especially may not be as experienced or capable as him.

@chileo1

2 жыл бұрын

@@neues3691 Well its his life and his choice to risk it and possibly die

I absolutely love you guys and your channel. Not a diver, never have been probably never will be but, I will sure be asking people I see with gear if they’re freaking certified. Lol

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

if people with air tanks and all the flashy gear can die easily down there id imagine free divers are at a 100x risk of dying.

Gotta go with Gus here. You nicely summed up why this guys video is overall pretty harmful as its packaged up. There aren't enough disclaimers about who this is for, or serious no nonsense warnings considering how acceptable and normal hes making this all sound. To the curious and under informed he might be all the confirmation they needed to "test it" lol. Glad woody took a contrasting stance though thats a totally reasonable position to take when you arent totally sure. Great video!

Gus when you laugh doesn't matter what it's about I'm laughing not with you but at you You're laugh is so giggly and infectious I've had face ache and chinese eyes with the odd happy tear!!!!!! I'm no diver but I never miss a video

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Awe thank you

I love thoose reaction videos! DiveTalk is the best. Where is the reaction video that should be up last week btw? (( The longest and sadest )) Love you guys!🤿

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Monday...we've moved it a couple of times...can't really find the right time to release it because we know it will run everyone's day and that goes against what we like to do which is bring people entertainment and happiness, but sometimes we have to talk about these tough subjects and we understand that in some cases people won't like us because of it. Anyway, it's coming out on Monday.

@ChargedDualtron

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIVETALK No worrys! Just asking. Some cases is not easy to talk about.. But their names should be remembed! 🤿 Everything you guys upload is a out of my mind level of great! If it is what im thinking it is, you guys should be telling the story. Dive safe!

New to ur channel but i find this stuff very fascinating n ive watched a few vids n yall def say to bring a back up to ur back up light, 11:35 this dude said hes seen people go into a cave WITHOUT a light...What?!?!?!

Edgy stuff but not so uncommon. Human venture is next level on so many fronts.. Though not sure where your definition of cave is derived from. A cave is not a void without light by definition. Cave, cavity, concave are rooted from the word Cavus. Means hollow. Any cave without light might be called subterranean, hidden or something else yet no matter what you have read or been told a cave is not related to light other than by implication and expectation…

PLEASE GUS AND WOODY THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION!>> If a free diver swims past, why isn't it customary to extend an octo for a quick breath in case they need it. Im sure free divers that are in caves or deep depths understand the physics in ascending after taking a breath from octo, before ascending.

@DIVETALK

2 жыл бұрын

Because they would be taking a breathe of your compressed air and therefore when they ascend holding their breath they would very likely get a serious lung over expansion injury likely resulting in death.