Disney Can't Fix Dinoland, so I Did It for Them

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Animal Kingdom has a problem and most people would tell you that it's Dinoland USA. I disagree, the problem is actually the creative bankruptcy of Disney leadership and their inability to do anything other than propose terrible IP replacements for this aging land that they've let fall into a state of disrepair. It's one of Disney's most unique areas and is home to Dinosaur, one of the most interesting dark rides ever created. Instead of letting Disney executives do the "creative" thinking, I've decided to instead pitch my own idea for a way to revive the land by building a time-traveling dinosaur rollercoaster. Please forgive the less than stellar visuals, but at the very least, I think I can illustrate my idea convincingly enough.
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  • @NathanSpies
    @NathanSpies9 ай бұрын

    It seems Disney wants universal to get all the dinosaur money now. Also someone should send this to Disney

  • @PrimeStone

    @PrimeStone

    9 ай бұрын

    Hey Nathan Spies You Watch Poseidon Entertainment Too

  • @sonofpechoman4261

    @sonofpechoman4261

    9 ай бұрын

    what part of disney?

  • @NathanSpies

    @NathanSpies

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sonofpechoman4261 whatever part is responsible for making and approving new attractions

  • @joncarlos716

    @joncarlos716

    9 ай бұрын

    Be prepared to be let down again in the same area 😅

  • @gaberobison680

    @gaberobison680

    9 ай бұрын

    I prefer universal. They are a bit cheaper, more thrilling rides and slightly less young children. Disney has it place but I’m in my 20’s so Universal is rising

  • @FieryPheonix-pq8sh
    @FieryPheonix-pq8sh9 ай бұрын

    I really hope Disney doesn’t destroy Dinoland with ip. It’s a great land with an interesting story, and I wish they could come up with something more interesting for the area than “Here’s Moana!”

  • @pommau9976
    @pommau99769 ай бұрын

    WDI should be continuing the story of Dinoland, they could very easily play on the time travel theme and create a land with multiple themed areas based on different periods of time. Cambrian age, Ice Age, etc.

  • @kaitlinschwarz3644

    @kaitlinschwarz3644

    9 ай бұрын

    That sounds really cool, better than the video even. It’s to bad that Disney never listens to the ideas from their guests.

  • @CaptainCretaceous91

    @CaptainCretaceous91

    5 ай бұрын

    Maybe they should save that for a future park.

  • @CoreyMarinoGames

    @CoreyMarinoGames

    19 күн бұрын

    @@kaitlinschwarz3644 I do like this idea, but most guest ideas are pretty terrible.

  • @themaxcollective
    @themaxcollective9 ай бұрын

    it is insane, to me, that Disney is STILL so reluctant to properly invest in Imagineering / innovation it would pay off, and then some, if they'd allow some DREAMING

  • @signofmars

    @signofmars

    9 ай бұрын

    ^^^

  • @ukeman1143

    @ukeman1143

    9 ай бұрын

    Exactly. Some IMAGINATION (IMAGINEERING)

  • @ab5olut3zero95

    @ab5olut3zero95

    9 ай бұрын

    True, but that’s not a preexisting IP they can milk.

  • @jenniferhoward3572

    @jenniferhoward3572

    9 ай бұрын

    The irony of the imagineers not imagineering

  • @kaio113

    @kaio113

    9 ай бұрын

    Imagineering made them who they are, money is what they want now

  • @super_succubi
    @super_succubi9 ай бұрын

    Interesting idea. My only gripe is that some of the ideas feel like a rehash of Dinosaur, with both rides involving time travel and both rides involving an escape from a Carnotaurus. Maybe instead of a portable time machine, the device is shot at the fossils, causing them to come alive and emerge from the rock wall. Maybe that'll make the two ideas feel more distinct to me.

  • @hanonondricek411

    @hanonondricek411

    9 ай бұрын

    Same thoughts here: great ideas, but it's CTX with a different ride system. I'd say build the suggested attraction a bit scaled-down as a high-capacity family coaster, then when that opens, immediately shut down Dinosaur to re-theme it similar to Indy, but a non-IP "educational mine and temple exploration in jeeps" as a historical tour and attraction for visitors. "We found no Dinos here, but isn't it cool? Oh that stone with ancient carvings? It's never been fully translated, some nonsense about "all trespassers beware this cursed _living ground_ ..." but _don't worry about that!_ ..." Of course the floor breaks and drops the vehicle into a new cavern with active curses and traps and Dino bones, and then the fossils themselves come to life (via a Mystic Manor style curse) with animatronic Dino _skeletons_ emerging from walls and chasing the vehicles as the threat. (Researcher voice-over "This is like every nightmare I've ever had since I started working here!") The finale is you escape right under a giant slab door that is descending to seal it back off. The researchers are excited you've discovered a new section with a new trench of fossils: "Okay, exit to your left, we've got a lot of work to do on all these new artifacts! (What about the curse? We don't need to credit these people for the discovery right? Nah, they're tourists...)"

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I only used the Carnotaurus as a place holder because it was easy, but yeah, I do agree that a lot of ideas are conceptually similar to Dinosaur.

  • @BigBossMan538

    @BigBossMan538

    9 ай бұрын

    I do like the idea of Carnotaurus being Dinoland's flagship dinosaur. It's a very unique creature in paleontology and loved by many dino fans. It's Disney's T. rex imo @@PoseidonEntertainment

  • @jlwiseman98

    @jlwiseman98

    9 ай бұрын

    Maybe the dinosaurs instead could all be skeletal? Like all of their skeletal remains come to life to attack the car instead? Giving them a creepy vibe.

  • @GrantGraff

    @GrantGraff

    Ай бұрын

    It sounds like a really cool ride except Dinosaur already exists next to it. What if instead they ripped of Universal and did a water ride but in a prehistoric swamp with a spinosaurus hunting you down in a thick bog.

  • @Matto7634
    @Matto76349 ай бұрын

    Modern Disney management is brain dead when it comes to managing and updating their theme parks, and I hope they are able to take some of your advise from your past videos regarding how to better manage their rides and shows. I also think that this is a great idea in helping Animal Kingdom, having a new and innovative ride that people are exited about, rather than just more meet and greets and IP tie in.

  • @benjacobs574
    @benjacobs5749 ай бұрын

    Make the main part of Dinoland a modern Dinosaur Zoo (that doesn’t go wrong), have a boat ride with life-sized animatronics that has a living with the land vibe where you learn about the various dinosaurs and other creatures from the past. Then just keep Dinosaur as is, though do a big refurbishment.

  • @ogrewlayers

    @ogrewlayers

    9 ай бұрын

    thats half of river adventure, why would they do that?

  • @paleozoey

    @paleozoey

    9 ай бұрын

    this is what i always thought was missing from dinoland; a good zoo attraction that focuses on the animals theselves. like maybe an additional wing of the institute, with "enclosures" for different dinosaurs and other creatures. a boat ride maybe, but it's already so similar to JP river adventure and the jungle cruise, so maybe a walking trail with research theming similar to the one in the africa section. it could be pens in the "modern day" with captured dinosaurs like the iguanodon from the ride, or even another time-travel thing where it's a field station somewhere in the mesozoic

  • @SonicSnail95

    @SonicSnail95

    9 ай бұрын

    The trick would be to make it distinct from JP, but a calmer alternative to Dinosaur that treats them as simple animals that we can still learn about feels like a huge missed opportunity for the land.

  • @kaitlinschwarz3644

    @kaitlinschwarz3644

    9 ай бұрын

    @@paleozoeyThat’s a great idea. Then the only other thing Disney would need is a new Dinosaur coaster to replace primeevil whirl.

  • @midnighthope7752

    @midnighthope7752

    9 ай бұрын

    The zoo section could be a combination of dinosaur animatronics and exhibits with real modern birds maybe, since the dinosaurs never truly left

  • @allenmovies
    @allenmovies9 ай бұрын

    As much as I love the new Central America theme they're proposing, I think it's such a missed opportunity that they want to get rid of any dinosaur presence. Dinosaurs are timeless, and Universal shouldnt be the only park they exist in.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it's not like they don't have a ton of room to expand elsewhere. They can still do South America with its own interesting attractions with room for more left over.

  • @lifekeepsflowing
    @lifekeepsflowing9 ай бұрын

    I’m so heartbroken about the news about Dinoland. Their new idea is awful. We need a dinosaur expansion and facelift. This is amazing and would LOVE a land and ride like this. You need to either work for disney or make your own park.

  • @1ronEntertainment

    @1ronEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Don’t worry, Disney’s idea it won’t actually happen

  • @kaitlinschwarz3644

    @kaitlinschwarz3644

    9 ай бұрын

    Don’t worry, I’m pretty sure that is no longer happening. The most recent news I’ve heard is that they’re planning a new ride to replace primeevil whirl, but they won’t reveal what it is yet.

  • @CaptainCretaceous91

    @CaptainCretaceous91

    5 ай бұрын

    I suggest following Don Bluths example and building his own.

  • @potato1094

    @potato1094

    5 ай бұрын

    The only way I will be happy with this referb is if they add a reptile house and or capybaras to the park. Also, if the rumored Indiana jones think is just the one in California again, that is just lazy.

  • @matthewb840
    @matthewb8409 ай бұрын

    I’ll be sad the day they remove Dinosaur, it’s a ride that still gives me chills

  • @HeyItsEstey
    @HeyItsEstey9 ай бұрын

    Babe wake up, A new Poseidon Entertainment video was just uploaded.

  • @RidintheMovies1990

    @RidintheMovies1990

    9 ай бұрын

    I’m up

  • @dylangallardo2630

    @dylangallardo2630

    9 ай бұрын

    🤖

  • @SmokeyChipOatley

    @SmokeyChipOatley

    9 ай бұрын

    @@RidintheMovies1990just letting you know you're not the only one he's been waking up whenever Poseidon posts a new video. It's ok. No need to get upset. I was in your position once before too. This is typical of him. Homeboy goes around charming others acting like a Tron Coaster when in reality he's just a cheating, spinning, low capacity Dumbo flat ride. Yeah I said it! 😈

  • @itouch4mac

    @itouch4mac

    9 ай бұрын

    Literally my thought process every time I see a new Poseidon Entertainment vid

  • @aamiller90
    @aamiller909 ай бұрын

    Once again, people and park goers have better attraction ideas that Disney does.

  • @GLJosh

    @GLJosh

    9 ай бұрын

    We are unbound by fiscal, philosophical, and office politics responsibilities. There are probably quite a few "impressive" ideas floating around in Disney Park and Rec division that will never see the light of day for whatever reason that is baked into the current Disney management structure.

  • @aaronsarchive82

    @aaronsarchive82

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@GLJoshTwo words: Thunder Mesa.

  • @GLJosh

    @GLJosh

    9 ай бұрын

    @@aaronsarchive82 Yes, a cohesive story across numerous rides and Paris's Big Thunder looks incredible!

  • @hillelhalevi

    @hillelhalevi

    9 ай бұрын

    My guess is the Disney Imagineers have amazing ideas, but they are all shot down for one reason or another.

  • @starsbookreviews
    @starsbookreviews9 ай бұрын

    Ah yes! One of my first thoughts after Disney talked Dino Land replacement was how Poseidon Entertainment would respond! I really like Dino Land. Theres a bench between Dinosaur and the restaurant where my sister and I will sit while eating a big cookie as we people watch and discuss what to do next. Its almost always Dinosaur as its one of my sister's favorite rides. Your Idea is awesome by the way!

  • @carminecdinoproductions

    @carminecdinoproductions

    9 ай бұрын

    Dino actually…

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Weird, I always find myself sitting on that bench too lol.

  • @zeroraptor_
    @zeroraptor_9 ай бұрын

    I'd be down for a dinosaur version of Kilimanjaro Safaris. Or some sort of dinosaur Jungle Cruise. The theme of the park is ANIMAL Kingdom, so why not lean into that even if it's animals that are supposed to be extinct? Do a whole What If thing where the dinosaurs never went extinct. It'd also be a great opportunity to do updated dinosaurs with feathers to distinguish Disney dinosaurs from Universal Studios dinosaurs.

  • @samusmp1_4

    @samusmp1_4

    9 ай бұрын

    If Pixar's The Good Dinosaur hadn't flopped, a third of the new Dinoland would have practically built itself. The movie is even set in an alternate timeline where the extinction-causing asteroid never impacted Earth.

  • @paleozoey
    @paleozoey9 ай бұрын

    instead of a carnotaurus i'd use something else like an allosaurus; it's native to the american west (which the area is themed on; carnotaurus is argentinian), and is still recognizeable animal while also being distinct in both appearance and time period. other animals in the jungle section could be well-known and obscure jurassic dinosaurs: stegosaurus, brontosaurus, brachiosaurus, and maybe some smaller ankylosaurs and ornithopods from that time and place. personally i always wanted a slow ride or walking trail where one could encounter dinosaurs and other animals. maybe a "cretaceous field station" as part of the dino institute. orlando is already in the perfect hardiness spot for having the right mix of plants- too far north and there's no tropical palms and cycads, too far south and its too hot for the sycamores and magnolias that dominated the swamps of those times. using a good mix of prehistoric plants and low rock-work, plus some field equipment and notes and stuff like on the african trails, mixed with the established theming, could prove to be a really good immersive and educational exhibit- and allow for more interactivity and thrills that you can't get with real animals. animal kingdom's advantage over universal is that its dinosaurs aren't strictly tied to any one IP and location holding them back. to stand out, they could emphasize that their dinosaurs are "real" and accurate, as opposed to the "theme park monsters" stuck in the 1990s with jurassic park. but that'd be too good of an idea.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I like your dinosaur choices. The Carnotaurus was really just a place holder but your ideas make more sense.

  • @chandlerhale7592
    @chandlerhale75929 ай бұрын

    This is an awesome idea, it feels very Eisner era with the story of dinoland. The only issue I have is that having 2 rides in the same land where you go back in time might be a bit redundant. I would instead have the coaster's story focus on accidently bringing a dinosaur to the present and having it wreak havoc in the digsite. I also think it would be interesting to theme the facade to Badlands National Park in South Dakota. It looks different enough from Monument Valley and Everest to still be unique, and it ties in with the digsite theme, as the Badlands are a famous digsite in the real world.

  • @ninabeena83

    @ninabeena83

    9 ай бұрын

    This video and comments are such perfection 😍 Great idea since Dino Sue’s origins (the real fossil specimen, not Dinoland’s re-creation) is from Black Hills, SD.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree that a lot of this idea is similar to Dinosaur, although I kind of see the time traveling aspect as something that could distinguish Dinoland from Jurassic Park, only reinforced by this coaster. I can see why anyone might have reservations against that though.

  • @dangflabbit4829
    @dangflabbit48299 ай бұрын

    I would absolutely love to see a South American region added ELSEWHERE in the park. Though I feel like it shouldn’t be modeled after the animated town of Encanto but make it akin to the rest of Animal Kingdom, which feels very authentic and lived in. Maybe host an Encanto meet and greet there but have the focus of the land be the region and native animals themselves, plus a new original non-IP ride.

  • @coolioam8137
    @coolioam81379 ай бұрын

    I always loved Dinoland USA, and thought it was heavily misunderstood by the majority of guests. Animal Kingdom is one of the only remaining parks not truly taken over by IP, and Dinoland fits much better than Encanto or Indiana Jones (although I do think Indy could make appearances at a dig site for meet and greets). This was super well done, and your ideas here are simply genius. I also love the use of classic RCT2 lol.

  • @coolioam8137

    @coolioam8137

    9 ай бұрын

    @@LynCubed Thats how I am with it. At least Indy you can kinda stretch that into a theme that fits with the park. Encanto is just there because it is the only major hit for Disney in a while.

  • @topheradkins2275
    @topheradkins22759 ай бұрын

    I like the ride concept and keeping Dinoland. I'm fascinated to know what has happened with Disney upper brass? Is it Bob Iger? Is it Josh D'Amaro? Is it the fight with DeSantis? That was the worst D23 I've ever seen and it seems like many of the "announcements" weren't even blue sky but hints of blue sky. They never actually said Indian Jones the band just played the theme song as a goof? Last year was bad, they had a full year to come out and say something has been green lit. Considering it takes Disney 5-6 years to get any construction project finished, its likely going to be at least a decade before anything exciting happens at WDW. It's depressing.

  • @dont-hurt-me2519
    @dont-hurt-me25199 ай бұрын

    First let me start off by saying, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!! It's very reassuring that I'm not the only one who believes that Disney doesn't need to consider replacing Dinoland USA with South America in order to "improve" Disney's Animal Kingdom. There's even a free area of land located in between Asia & Rafiki's Planet Watch that would be a more suitable area for construction a section of the park based on Central/South America?!?! I really enjoyed your video! I agree with you that the aesthetics of the Dino-Rama subsection of Dinoland USA don't really fit with the aesthetics of the other parts of the land & can be remedied with a new attraction(s). Your idea of resurrecting the scrapped "Excavator" Roller Coaster concept was interesting. I'd like to share with you a few of ideas of mine on how I'd possibly improve Dinoland USA: 1) Replacing the Dino-Rama Area with an Attraction(s) based on the Ice Age Franchise - I understand that this is going into IP territory. The Mesozoic Era/Age of Reptiles was only one part of Earth's Ancient Past & with the Paleozoic Era not having much notoriety, why not also focus of the Cenozoic Era/Age of Mammals. This can be achieved through Disney's acquisition of 20th Century Fox, Blue Sky Studios & the Ice Age Franchise. It even fits with DAK's theme of conservation; many of the creatures of the cenozoic became extinct due to climate change, habitat loss, human interaction, etc. (factors that are even affecting animals in the present). As for the attraction itself; I was thinking of a Water/Log Flume (think Splash Mountain) Ride based primarily on the first three films (maybe with some references to the last three?) & it would feature audio animatronics of the characters/creatures that were also featured in the film (ranging from Ice Age Creatures to Dinosaurs). Given that Disney's Animal Kingdom is also located in Orlando, Florida (which is extremely hot & humid during the summers); the park could really benefit from another water-based attraction (the only other one I could think of is Kali River Rapids in Asia). I was also thinking about re-theming the "Triceratops Spin" to the Ice Age Franchise as well. It would still be a Dumbo-esque type of ride but instead of just Triceratops Carts (which would be redesigned to resemble the ones in Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs); the ride would also feature Carts based on other creatures (i.e. Moeritherium, Doedicurus, etc.). Or maybe the attraction could be replaced with a Double-Decker (Prehistoric/Extinct-Themed) Carousel with "Horses" that are Prehistoric/Extinct Animals? If neither of these attractions are ideal, then that just leaves more construction space for the Water/Log-Flume Ride. 2) Interactive Dinosaur Encounters - Dinoland USA could really benefit if guests had an up-close/interactive experience with dinosaurs. One of Disney's earlier attempts was with Lucky the Dinosaur; a Segnosaurus that would walk around Dinoland & interact with guess. I'd like to bring back Lucky, maybe with an more up-to-date appearance with feathers, to interact with guest. However, Lucky wouldn't be the only dinosaur that guests would get to interact with. For Larger Dinosaurs, I looked at Walking with Dinosaurs: The Live Experience/Arena Spectacular & the Jurassic World: Live Tour. Both shows utilize a vehicle system to bring their larger creatures to life. I'd like to utilize the same system to make Aladar the Iguanodon (from Dinosaur) an interactive character. I also had the idea for a remote controlled, life-size Pterosaur Ornithopter (Pteranodon? Quetzalcoatlus?) based on the one made by Paul MacCready in the 1980's. The pterosaur would fly over Dinoland for guests to see. So far, these are the only creatures I had in mind for guest interactions but other creatures (from Fantasia, Dinosaur, Ice Age, The Good Dinosaur, etc.) might also be considered? 3) New Shows for the Theater in the Wild - While I do like "Finding Nemo: The Musical", the show doesn't really fit the with Prehistoric/Extinct-aesthetics of Dinoland USA. A few new shows/musicals (obviously in rotation) that I had in mind are based on the following films: -The Rite of Spring from Disney's Fantasia -Disney's Dinosaur -Ice Age -The Good Dinosaur Much like "Finding Nemo: The Musical," the dinosaurs & other extinct creatures would be brought to life through puppets/actors in costume (some would actually feature human actors). A Rite of Spring show could be executed just through the acting of the puppets & the orchestral music (much like the original segment). These shows/musical might also include material that got cut from the original films (i.e. The Ice Age segment from The Rite of Spring). Of these options, I feel like a Good Dinosaur Musical would be best options. This newer/musical version of The Good Dinosaur would obviously feature songs & possibly creatures that got cut from the film (i.e. Triceratops, Stegosaurus, Ankylosaurus, Dimetrodon, Archaeopteryx, Brachiosaurus, Deinosuchus, etc.). Side Note: Since the Theater in the Wild is located near the Dinoland entrance to Asia, if they went with The Good Dinosaur Musical, Expedition Everest (at least from Dinoland's perspective) could be seen as Clawtooth Mountain? 4) Changing the Cretaceous Trail - Currently, the Cretaceous Trail is an area of land located between Dino-Rama & Dinosaur. It features various plant life from the mesozoic (cycads, ferns, etc.) & dinosaur sculptures (Ornithomimus, Corythosaurus, Pachyrhinosaurus, Dromaeosaurus & Albertosaurus). My idea is to turn the area into a series of enclosures that feature animals that are considered "living fossils." Dinoland already has a few enclosures that feature the American Crocodile, Abdim's Stork & Asian Brown Tortoise. However, this new Cretaceous Trail would feature even more animals (depending on their availability) such as: -Invertabrates (Horseshoe Crab, Chambered Nautilus, South American Giant Cockroach, Millipedes, Giant Centipedes, etc.) -Fish (Lungfish, Gar, Sturgeon, Paddlefish, Hagfish, Lamprey, etc.) -Amphibians (Siren, Amphiuma, Caecilian, Axolotl, Mudpuppy, Hellbender, Giant Salamander, etc.) -Reptiles (Tuatara, Monitor Lizards, Turtles, Tortoises, Legless Lizards, Snakes, Tomistomas, Gharials, Alligators, Caiman, etc.) -Birds (Magpie Goose, Screamer, Tinamou, Seriema, Rhea, Emu, Cassowary etc.) -Mammals (Tree Shrew, Elephant Shrew, Oppossum, Lemur, etc.) This new Cretaceous Trail would still include the Mesozoic plant life & the Dinosaur sculptures (I'd love to bring back/relocate the original Styracosaurus statue that was located outside of Dinosaur to this new Cretaceous Trail)

  • @SuperRedtiger1

    @SuperRedtiger1

    9 ай бұрын

    Awesome idea. When it comes to imagineering, you’ll be perfect for the job

  • @disneysydneyresortvirtual9264
    @disneysydneyresortvirtual92649 ай бұрын

    Awesome,Poseidon Entertainment always delievers,unlike the Disney Company these days.

  • @lalalol36

    @lalalol36

    9 ай бұрын

    Honestly Disney still delivers. It just costs. Lol I went to universal studios 2 weeks ago and honestly I was so disappointed. I wanted to believe they were a real competitor to Disney but I left very disappointed. Waterworld holds up though!

  • @ryanleeuwis1602

    @ryanleeuwis1602

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@lalalol36disney delivers something but not to the same level as the 90's

  • @lalalol36

    @lalalol36

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ryanleeuwis1602 yeah but the 90s were awesome. Lol. We just got old. 😂

  • @ryanleeuwis1602

    @ryanleeuwis1602

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@lalalol36😂

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    @@lalalol36 Ehh, Universal Hollywood is just kind of okay, even though I like the park well enough. I definitely prefer Disneyland. In Florida, Universal is by far the better resort though.

  • @m1lk0meda
    @m1lk0meda9 ай бұрын

    Not a bad idea, but with Everest just steps away, this seems like a similar enough attraction that the experience is just a copy of what is, IMO, a stronger overall concept. I don't hate the idea of an indiana jones ride overlay replacing CTX but they could make it fit with a dinosaur theme and a time travel artifact in a south american temple, if that IS the direction they are heading with the area. As long as the area is kept region specific like the rest of the park, any IPs they use to tell more general stories I don't have a problem with. The theme of AK (animals of the past, present and imagined) is still hanging on while there's a lot of exotic and mysterious stories to tell in that region of the world. I still have hope that Australia comes through someday but I doubt it with current leadership, terrified of anything even remotely new or risky.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I don't agree at all. I don't think IP should ever have to be justified as fitting into an area, because if that's the case, then it never made sense to begin with. Disney has been successful with original ideas in the past, including Countdown to Extinction (I don't really consider it an IP tie-in with Dinosaur the film), so why not continue doing it?

  • @m1lk0meda

    @m1lk0meda

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@PoseidonEntertainment Pandora was "justified" by saying the values aligned with the park. Did it make sense? Not really, but it fit with conservation and imaginary animals. I'm sure that dinosaurs will stay in some form or another with an Indiana Jones reskin since they're just too profitable a concept and many archeological and fossil dig-sites are in that area of the world. Encanto could build a dark ride around Antonio showcasing and speaking to local animals, coco I guess could be a show based around mythical land of the dead animals. Disney is just unfortunately creatively bankrupt now and we can't change the new business model of the parks being IP showcases to sell merchandise and other services. If IP is what it takes to get Disney leadership to put a south/meso-america section into AK then I'm not going to complain too much.

  • @kaiknehans7022

    @kaiknehans7022

    9 ай бұрын

    Completely disagree, can never have to many roller coasters

  • @JLWhiteHorse
    @JLWhiteHorse9 ай бұрын

    As someone working on theme park attraction designs (to which details cannot be divulged... and no, not Disney), I must say I'm impressed with the thought and care taken for this idea. Well done!

  • @j-toki_1262
    @j-toki_12629 ай бұрын

    As a coaster enthusiast and RCT user since the beginning, I approve this message.

  • @sunnydaze2712
    @sunnydaze27129 ай бұрын

    I don’t want Disney Dinos to go extinct 😢 Adding that Disney is all about IP IP IP. There is no IP in Dinoland. So I propose a new movie accompanies the revamped Dinoland. So Disney still gets it’s IP fix.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Dinosaur is technically IP, although it definitely feels original because its ties to the film are so minimal.

  • @hayala0
    @hayala09 ай бұрын

    NGL, that is a fantastic idea. I got chills thinking about the time travel activating and revealing the live Carnotaurus. You should be an Imagineer.

  • @justinkerley1407
    @justinkerley14079 ай бұрын

    Best Poseidon video ever. Really appreciate the thought you put into this. Would love to see these types of "re-imagining" videos in the future

  • @jakedizzle
    @jakedizzle9 ай бұрын

    Everyone thumbs up the video to help Mr. Poseidon!

  • @ryanleeuwis1602
    @ryanleeuwis16029 ай бұрын

    I love these kind of bluesky emaginering videos you really should do more of that

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo9 ай бұрын

    An easy way to fix it is to make the cancelled digsite coaster, but now you can add in Indiana Jones. Add a meet and greet with Indy in the base camp, and add American birds and reptiles to that area.

  • @CADENAONLINE

    @CADENAONLINE

    9 ай бұрын

    Mixing Indy and dinosaurs would be a pretty interesting idea

  • @ninabeena83
    @ninabeena839 ай бұрын

    The Excavator would’ve been a really cool idea, especially if had been delivered as as a wooden coaster with the cobbled together mechanical Dinos. Those mock-ups are really neat 😎 I do really like this idea you present though. Having worked in Dinoland myself, I’d be really sad to see the whole area razed as it does have some of the best land theming in the parks imho, albeit somewhat subtle and/or requiring a knowledgeable person to point out those smaller details to the average passing guest. That being said, working DinoRama was the bane of my experience, and I’m sure most cast that worked there are inclined to agree lol. I’d definitely love for TSpin to go the way of Prime Hurl, and the games area 😤😤😤 I’m a Carni kid but ughhhhhhh. It was the worst addition to a Disney park, ever, lol. Getting rid of that whole area (and the cast buildings behind the berm you pointed out) would be a great way to update and invigorate the area and the Dinosaur concept i general, because it IS very popular, especially with the little kids (boys AND girls, whereas I wonder if Encanto is that universally appealing)

  • @MCLegoboy
    @MCLegoboy9 ай бұрын

    If this were to be a thing, I could see it actually being the replacement for Dinosaur. The ride you've pitched has too many similar elements to the story of Dinosaur, but I do like it. What you've pitched sounds like what could be Dinsey's answer to Universal's Revenge of the Mummy and Island of Adventure's Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure. There's a story to it, some changes in track dynamics, there's stuff that happens in the dark, like, it would be Disney's version of both those rides. However, although Dinosaur is a fun ride, it's also been there for over 20 years, and with a bit too many overlapping similarities with the story, I can't see both rides existing at the same time. If you were to go back to back, even though the ride mechanics are different, it kind of feels redundant. Go back to get this thing in time all the while you're being chased by Carnotaurs. The theme of the area is dinosaurs, that kind of feels like the extent of where similarities should begin and end among the rides. Now perhaps you could have it be some sort of Journey to the Center of the Earth or Hollow Earth Theory type situation where part of the mineshaft collapses and you find yourself in an untamed world, maybe the scientists and interns don't believe what you've seen despite having time travel technology, I don't know, but something needs to change. What if it's just a general tour of the dig site to help drum up money to keep it going, and then you have a cave-in that redirects everyone and we discover something even better than just bones? You did mention that you wanted something more tame to Everest and Dinosaur despite your ride sounding more or less on par with them in terms of intensity. Perhaps you go more Jurassic Park River Adventure with it, but then hit everyone with some more intense roller coaster moments than just one drop. You can have it be designed a bit more like it's in a bowl to hide this secret world from the rest of the park. The tour starts off indoors, and if there's some way to do it, disguise the whole indoor section as the lift hill, and then when you actually get to the part where the cave in happens, riders are surprised to see that they drop on outside where there are dinosaurs in a hollow part of the Earth. A few ups and downs and banks, a few jumpscares from carnivores, everyone's trapped, but then your guide notices that the cave-in opened up a new hole to the original caverns you were in before and that's how you can get back home (narrowly escaping one last chomp from a big carnivore of course). It's almost kind of a reverse Everest where all the fun stuff actually takes place outside. With a few well covered animatronics among more static dinosaurs out in the open, and with proper landscaping and painting on some walls, you could make the area of this "underground world" look bigger than it actually is and survive the Florida weather.

  • @BladeHobo
    @BladeHobo9 ай бұрын

    This is really well thought out. It's a good use of what's already there too so it's fairly realistic if we had a Disney that wanted to innovate. I'm more of a fan of a more in-depth retheme. Going to the original idea of Beasts of Today, Yesterday, and of Imagination, I really wish Dinoland USA had animals other than dinosaurs. Terrorbirds, Trilobytes, etc. While kind of obscure to the general public, I think trying to use those is a good way for Disney to set its ancient animals land apart from Jurassic Park

  • @officialmonarchmusic
    @officialmonarchmusic9 ай бұрын

    15:20 I love how the interns are more relieved that you got their time machine than that you escaped a Carnotaurus

  • @rockonnotman1699
    @rockonnotman16999 ай бұрын

    Loved this video format and would love to see more of this style come with other lands

  • @angelal8829
    @angelal88299 ай бұрын

    So here for the amount of shade leveled at Disney in this video.

  • @wil.d_sage
    @wil.d_sage9 ай бұрын

    Dinosaur was and still is one of my favorite Disney movies. I’m kinda glad they forgot about it

  • @WiiIsTom
    @WiiIsTom9 ай бұрын

    I wish they would do something like this but it seems like management refuses to let imagineering do anything new without including IP these days. What's the last non-IP attraction/land we've gotten? There's plenty of room for it in the parks but it seems like they want to replace everything original with well known characters instead of coming up with new ideas.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    The new Test Track is surprising, but I only think it's because of GM.

  • @stephenraeburn3263
    @stephenraeburn32639 ай бұрын

    I love this pitch and I think a classic family wooden/steel coaster would be a smash success in a Florida theme park. There are a few in Orlando at the Fun Spot centers, but none in any major parks. However, I do have to admit I was very excited about a potential new continent with animals from that region if Disney decides to go forward with Central/Tropical America, at least much more excited than a Moana & Zootopia mashed together quisi-lands. Disney's main problem right now is that they're pumping IP into everything, and with time IP becomes irrelevant and out-dated. Think about all of the classic attractions that are the most revered: Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, Space Mountain, it's a small world, Thunder Mountain... none of these include any recognizable IP and those are the attractions that bring people into the parks. I've heard no one ever say that they were going to the Magic Kingdom to ride the Little Mermaid dark ride - of course they do it - but that's not why they went. Sorry for the rant!

  • @BigHotGarbage
    @BigHotGarbage9 ай бұрын

    Just subbed to your channel cus I’ve been on a massive Epcot binge recently to experience what I missed, but now I’ve been checking out your other videos and they’re great! Keep it up brother and maybe someday Disney will get better

  • @ChrisandToryTVandYoshiitoo
    @ChrisandToryTVandYoshiitoo9 ай бұрын

    I would personally love to see the land of Thunder Mesa Put Into The Beyond Big Thunder Concept. This Land was always meant to be apart of the park and I believe it would make a perfect fit to expand frontierland. With Thunder Mesa Going Beyond Big Thunder They Could Have It That The Original Frontierland Is Renamed To A New Orleans Area And Hear Me Out, Now Where Thunder Mesa And Big Thunder Are They Could Make A New Frontier Land And Make It Better Than What It Is Now!!

  • @capcaw
    @capcaw9 ай бұрын

    Only channel I have notifications turned on for. Great vid as always.

  • @Elmerstudd007
    @Elmerstudd0079 ай бұрын

    Who do we send this to! This needs to be seen by disney imagineering like...now. At first I was skeptical but the further into the video the more i was on board. Bravo

  • @kevinfraser7815
    @kevinfraser78159 ай бұрын

    I need to turn on notification. This channel got me hooked during pandemic and I never turned back

  • @DeanGilberryCrunch
    @DeanGilberryCrunch9 ай бұрын

    I love the this idea a lot. The only question I think I have is the logic of the mine track being placed in the prehistoric parts of the ride, as I’m unsure how the track would end up there. I’m sure there’s some way to logic it out. Regardless it has more heart than almost anything Disney has done in the past several years.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I thought about it, but I realized that people are often willing to overlook details like that if the ride is interesting or fun enough. I considered putting a purple light under the tracks as if they were glowing, being placed in front of the train. It still doesn't make sense, but in the general thrill of the moment, I think people would be willing to forgive or not even notice a detail like that.

  • @ryankinseth5715
    @ryankinseth57159 ай бұрын

    This sounds like Dinosaur... I am in the small majority of people who actually love Dinoland USA in all its glory, that includes Chester and Hester's DinoRama. I really wanted them to replace Primeval Whirl with a family "wooden" coaster themed to excavating much like an original concept you mentioned. Also I could see a dinosaur themed carousel working in this area too.

  • @CADENAONLINE
    @CADENAONLINE9 ай бұрын

    The Dino Institute concept is fantastic, i always thought that another two attractions could be made here. A roller coaster like this video explains and a walkthrough ride with top animatronics. Zoo's keep having dinosaur animatronics and people loves to visit those attractions. Why not making it here? Its a shame none of the Disney executives saw this as an opportunity to make money and entertain park visitors.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I don't think an animatronic dinosaur zoo can really work as anything other than a ride. Conceptually, I think people like the idea of a walk-through, but if Island's Triceratops Encounter is any indication, it's not something that people really do more than once. I do think that reviving the river idea would work well though. I don't think that Universe of Energy was torn down because people lost interest, so much as Disney just never bothered to update it. A new, slow moving dinosaur ride would be popular I think.

  • @BlakeJonesyREAL
    @BlakeJonesyREAL9 ай бұрын

    Love your videos. Appreciate all the work you put into them. Super awesome stuff! Keep em coming bro!!! Also, have you been to all the Disney parks? I’m amazed how you know so much about them all.

  • @newdelhiman3083
    @newdelhiman30839 ай бұрын

    Please do something like this/the new fantasyland video more often, I'm a really big fan of your videos and would be interested in how you would potentially redevelop the disney/universal parks and why you'd make certain decisions

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I've considered doing a "Fixing Epcot" series where I look at each attraction/World Showcase pavilion and offer up ideas to either fix or add something. The issue is that it's difficult to visually represent what I mean, especially since I'm no artist.

  • @simonfrost7094

    @simonfrost7094

    9 ай бұрын

    @@PoseidonEntertainment Surely that's where AI comes in? You just describe what you want and it generates it for you.

  • @jackob.graphic5143
    @jackob.graphic51439 ай бұрын

    This is just Dinosaur. Negligent scientists send you to get something for them, you go back in time, have some run-ins with the scary carnivore, then you come back safely. I think that South America has a ton of potential in DAK and I’m excited to experience it. (If it ever gets built).

  • @danieldietrich9969
    @danieldietrich99699 ай бұрын

    That backstage building you want to demolish is a Cast memeber breakroom, office space and character greenroom. But in the way to that building is merch/food&bev storage space, and a custodial supply shed. Just to give some idea about the difficulty in moving that structure you suggest. Not that it can't be done.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree that it's not necessarily practical, but Disney of the past isn't known for being cheap and not doing something because they have to move some buildings. If anything, it seems like an opportunity to improve these facilities, though I doubt current Disney would ever do anything other than the bare minimum.

  • @ToshisGarden
    @ToshisGarden9 ай бұрын

    Just wanted to say, excited for you to hit your 100k, man! You've been working hard for it, and you deserve to be up there! Only 900 subs to go! Keep up the good work!

  • @Robbie_Ukule_Lee
    @Robbie_Ukule_Lee9 ай бұрын

    You had me at ZION and TRIVIAL INTERN WORK . this MUST happen :)

  • @davidfitzsimmons2451
    @davidfitzsimmons24519 ай бұрын

    If Joe Rhodie was still involved i feel Indiana Jones could 100% work as a full land. I long thought it could work after I saw how he managed to implement Pandora, and kept hoping they would do this until more recent times when its now clear Disney could never out this kinda thought into it anymore. Focus on mythology, ancient cultures and how animals were huge parts and inspirations to the cultures. You could have a trail that goes through some ancient ruins looking structures similar to the Asian trail, but it focuses on animals that have notable palcements of many cultures and you can go into a basic synopsis of each cultures story the animal was part of. And the overall aesthetic of the land could be easily designed to blend and match seamlessly with the rest of the park. So many of the ruins Indy delves into are basically overgrown and 'taken back' by nature, and one could also have some oppurtunity for a bit of educational moments with teaching how the process of ecological secession works. There is plenty of room for Indy to work in Animal Kingdom, but they just dont have the talent to execute it well i feel

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I suppose it could kind of work if you stretch it, but that ultimately tells me that it's still not a good fit. At least with Avatar, messages about destroying the environment were central to its story. I still don't see a reason to remove dinosaurs as a theme of the park either, especially when it needs to expand instead of replacing.

  • @davidfitzsimmons2451

    @davidfitzsimmons2451

    9 ай бұрын

    @@PoseidonEntertainment I do agree I would prefer expanding and giving a proper and long needed refresh and retheme of the dinosaur land as opposed to replacing. I am mostly giving a devils advocate for Indy at the least since it's pretty clear they don't want to do anything with dinosaurs anymore and want to just replace it all. They have long been spitballing for things to replace the land wholesale and Indy was usually a front runner in the rumors of the internal discussions. Zootopia I heard was shot down HARD everytime it came up while Rhodie was still there, but the Indy rumors were more persistent suggesting maybe he saw potential there to not shoot it down as hard as Zootopia. But of course those are rumors and speculations of intent behind rumored actions. So who knows, what does matter is these announcements suck and I only hope it goes the way of the previous batch of announcements for replacing the land. And it's possible, I get a strong feeling they are struggling for cash and don't want to commit to anything that will be too pricey

  • @universaldude3015
    @universaldude30159 ай бұрын

    This is so creative. We all need to band together to get you into imagineering. This is some Joe Rohde level stuff right here!!

  • @SuperRedtiger1

    @SuperRedtiger1

    9 ай бұрын

    You’re right Poseidon Entertainment is perfect for imagineering

  • @holo_nside
    @holo_nside9 ай бұрын

    Love the idea. and how much care and respect it holds to the area's past. Its pretty sad that one guy can come up with ideas for what could be an incredible themed coasters, and a company like disney could not even dream of having a ride with such actually detail, consistent ideas, or care anymore

  • @MrSporeaddict123
    @MrSporeaddict1239 ай бұрын

    Thank god for your timely response to another god awful concept for this area from Disney. I can only hope someone over there will get ahold of this mess, on the parks side, before disney does more irreparable/shoddy/nonsensical rethemes. AK and Dinosaur are my last major pulls to WDW and if they really half-ass some replacement with some irrelevant theme im not sure why id be returning any time soon. Love the concept and videos as always.

  • @leanen6424
    @leanen64249 ай бұрын

    I really feel your appreciation for Dinoland! I also think that Dinosaur can be an excellent ride if it is maintained well! Indiana Jones has an amazing queue, loading station, set design and final scene, but theres no great animatronics and at some point it seems like you're going through a parking garage. And Dinosaur has arguiably one of the most iconic pre-shows! I think the existing roadside-theme is excellent and a nice contrast to the tropical themes throughout the park. However, I did not like your proposed attraction. It seems to me as a mix of Everest and Dinosaur and not something that the park really needs. I like the idea of another rollercoaster tho, I just wish they would go for something entirely different. Disney has a long history of working with vekoma. And they have a really exiting new model that they opened at a themepark called Phantasialand in Germany. Their highly themed ride which consists of a small darkride section, seperate load and unload stations and a long ride with two launches would fit almost twice on the available land. Their ride has inversions, this one would'nt have to. It's a flying coaster with relatively mild launches (def less forceful than Rock n Rollercoaster) and could be a themed to a Pteranodon. I could see this as being relatively family friendly, but maybe a bit more thrilling as Everest because of the seating position. Vekoma's new loading mechanism for flying coasters is far superior of the one that is being used on Manta at Sea World, so the Capacity would match Disneys needs as well.

  • @AmusementVision
    @AmusementVision9 ай бұрын

    Honestly if it were up to me, I would have made the Chester and Hester area more like the Dino Institute side of Dinoland. I think the Latin America part should be an expansion to the park in a new plot of land for the park. I also think they could use the ride system used in Shanghai Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean to make a Prehistoric Sea themed attraction where Primeval Whirl used to be. I've never been a big fan of the DinoRama Area, but I don't think the rethemes there coming up with fit any better. Lastly if they clear out the trees by the Nemo side, they could copy and paste the Indiana Jones coaster layout in Paris and make it themed to an excavation sight.

  • @SuperRedtiger1

    @SuperRedtiger1

    9 ай бұрын

    Awesome idea

  • @STSGuitar16
    @STSGuitar169 ай бұрын

    I'd love to see more videos like this about how you'd "fix" other disney attractions. Lord knows there is a seemingly endless number of attractions that could use a good Poseidon treatment like this lmao. Maybe even seeing you lay out your 100% ideal Poseidon Park might be a cool idea as well. Good stuff man!

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I've been thinking about an extensive "Fixing Epcot" series, but I wanted to see how a video like this would do first.

  • @STSGuitar16

    @STSGuitar16

    9 ай бұрын

    @@PoseidonEntertainment awesome. Yeah, fixing Epcot would be epic for sure. I’m having a field day just going through all of the possibilities for that park right now in my head lol. It’s my favorite park and could honestly probably be the best Disney park in the world if it had a zero or extremely high budget like at Tokyo Disneyland and Disney Sea, so I’d love to see your thoughts on it. Actually, that gives me another idea. Seeing you cover more of the international Disney parks would be really cool as well. I know you’ve done stuff like Efteling before, so it might be cool to see you compare that (or other international theme parks) to the international Disney parks. I know I give you a lot of unsolicited video ideas but I just can’t help it lol. You’re one of the few creators who regularly engages with the comments, and I just love letting my thoughts flow and writing about the sort of things you cover, so I hope it’s not too overbearing or anything lol. But yeah, a Fixing Epcot series would be incredible!

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    @@STSGuitar16 I don't really plan to talk about the international parks until I actually visit them, but some also interest me less than others. I'm planning DLP for 2025 and probably TDR as part of a Japan trip in 2026 or later. Hong Kong and Shanghai are lower on my priority list because they're less interesting to me, even if they have some unique attractions, though I'm sure I'll get to them eventually. Still, Fantasy Springs is going to be really interesting because it looks like it's going to be such a ridiculous caliber of quality. I'll probably be interested in discussing that when it opens.

  • @STSGuitar16

    @STSGuitar16

    9 ай бұрын

    @@PoseidonEntertainment this is the first I’ve ever even heard about Fantasy Springs, so needless to say, I’d love to see you cover that for sure. I enjoy seeing stuff and learning about the smaller, highly-detailed international parks like Efteling and what I assume Fantasy Springs will be. It’s always just interesting to me to mentally evaluate/compare parks like those to the top well-known parks in the world like Disney and Universal. Pretty cool to see the care that goes into creating the smaller parks and the clear passion that their creators have for making top notch, high quality theme parks. It definitely opens my eyes even more to the fact that Disney aren’t the only ones who can create super high-quality parks these days.

  • @galaga2x808
    @galaga2x8089 ай бұрын

    god your content is among the freshest and best in the genre

  • @officialmonarchmusic
    @officialmonarchmusic9 ай бұрын

    I think that your best bet for the dinosaur villain is to make it a flying Dinasaur, (pterodactyl was my first thought, but it might be too small to be threatening) separating it from other rides and genuinely giving a vibe that you are being hunted down from above (Than again, I just thought of this, might not be logistical)

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah, the Carnotaurus is just a place holder, although I think that a flying reptile would be a bit too difficult to portray effectively. Someone else suggested a confused but dangerous herbivore and I think that's a good idea too.

  • @KC-Mitch
    @KC-Mitch9 ай бұрын

    To be fair, Disney might've ripped off a dinosaur land to compete with JP at Islands (in good ol' Eisner fashion), but Universal got the last laugh since Lost Continent was built using the Beastly Kingdom Imagineers that were laid off from DAK budgets cuts during construction.

  • @kalzium8857
    @kalzium88579 ай бұрын

    I think it would be a mistake to abandon the dinosaur theme. Dinosaurs are a timeless ip and will be relevant even in hundred years. It will never be outdated. Disney want to replace this with an ip. Indiana jones is a bad idea. I mean the last movie didn't do well. Encanto and Moana may probably boost the merchandise short term but won't have the timeless character of dinosaurs.

  • @Greystar2426
    @Greystar24268 ай бұрын

    for an old club project back in uni, I had proposed using space northwest of everest to make a jeep-based thrill attraction based around youkai legends and how humans perceived those stories and the animals they relate to.

  • @shaneblackburn8321
    @shaneblackburn83219 ай бұрын

    I really love your ideas and I hope I will go and ride Disney Dinosaur Ride one last time 😢.

  • @tedsowards
    @tedsowards9 ай бұрын

    How to make a droll Monday exciting?! Poseidon Entertainment posts a video!!!

  • @meganruchwatercolors7186
    @meganruchwatercolors71869 ай бұрын

    I just love all your videos and commentary! You nail every single time, and I agree with everything you always say! I am am a successful artist, and I have to say, I am impressed you did a fabulous job with the coaster and how you would put it all together in Dinoland. I think you are better than Disney 's imagineers. I have some great ideas as well to make Disney bring back the magic!

  • @kevinbhieey9188
    @kevinbhieey91889 ай бұрын

    Interesting idea, but it banks on a faulty supposition, that "these plans are not going to happen". Oh, one of them is going to happen, and it's going to happen soon. Why? 1) Animal Kingdom is next. It's now not only the worst-performing park at WDW, but it's #6 in Orlando and it's going to be #7 after Epic Universe opens if they don't do something. 2) This is now the THIRD plan for Dinoland, though the first plan also involved an Indy retheme. In the past decade we have not heard of something being built between Asia and Africa, or anything along that boring train route. It's been all about Dinoland. Every. Single. Time. Why? 3) Because that's how Bob Iger operates. He's not interested in building new lands unless the park is hemorrhaging guests. Cars Land and Pandora were aberrations that had money thrown at them only because Disney couldn't afford to annoy the people connected to them: John Lasseter and James Cameron, and these two parks were desperate. Otherwise, "new" lands just replace old lands. See Pixar Pier, Galaxy's Edge (Florida edition), Toy Story Land, San Fransokyo, Cosmic Rewind, Avengers Campus, other Avengers Campus. If they have nothing to retheme, then they just go cheap, like Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland or one-ride Arendelle in Paris. (Need further proof? Hong Kong Disneyland is 52% owned by the government; it's getting two rides and one is not a clone!) Dinoland is in play because all three ideas involve retheming rides. The last two both include TriceraTop Spin rethemes. 4) IPs. Iger is simply not going to build anything that isn't an IP. They couldn't even build a water play area without playing Moana all over it. That's why Dinosaur has gone back and forth between Indy and Zootopia. Yes, Indy is old and performed poorly this year, but the Indians Jones Adventure rides are evergreen at this point. And Indy will sell merch, at least moreso than Dinosaur. Encanto, on the other hand, THAT will get people into the park. THAT can go on billboards and commercials. It'll be "We Don't Talk About Bruno" for two years straight! 5) Speaking of Bruno-no-no-no, they need to make Lin-Manuel Miranda happy. He has threatened - publicly - to take his talents elsewhere if he doesn't see some Encanto happening in the parks. That's why it's popped up in TWO different concept art pieces. Miranda has done more for the studio than any other creative lately and they can't afford to lose him. (Another reason Moana got made while Mary Poppins did not.) 6) But, also they need characters of color in the parks. Almost every rumor we've been hearing lately involves a brown character: more Moana, Encanto, Coco, Black Panther. Disney is getting trashed over the coals for how lily white the parks are. Tiana is not enough to make this go away. They need diversity in EVERY park. 7) I think we've gone back to the original Indy idea because the original plan was to create a South America plan. So that "tropical Americas" line is important. There are no tall pyramids in South America, but there are in Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras and Southern Mexico - aka "tropical North America". This tells me they did their research since the last rumor. They did A LOT of research as they painted the Indy temple red, which is what the Mayans did. This has moved beyond Blue Sky stage. 8) I think there are going to be animals. That was the biggest complaint about Moana. No animals. South America was originally chosen because people want to continue the continental theme. The concept art for the Encanto version has all kinds of pathways hidden amongst a large number of trees. I think we're getting animals! 9) They've been trying to find a way to clone Mystic Manor since that thing opened. Casa Madrigal is a MAGICAL MANOR. Not only will that theme allow them the easiest transformation, but they're also looking at being able to clone it, if it's done right. Could it be done cheaply? Of course it could. But I still think it's going to get did.

  • @spaceemperorspar4791
    @spaceemperorspar47919 ай бұрын

    The minute the news came out, I knew the #1 Dinoland Defender would rise to the challenge

  • @acas1731
    @acas17316 ай бұрын

    I went to Animal Kingdom in 2018 for the first time, we walked by Dino-rama and thought it was stupid. So we completely skipped Dino Land. I feel like I missed out now.

  • @camdasherr
    @camdasherr9 ай бұрын

    would be so cool if the first cavern moment featured a drop track section too because disney hasn't implemented that in any of their rides yet! thrills, but also accessible for families. btw love your use of og roller coaster tycoon to map to evoke the vibe of like 90s college dorm intern vibes. your detail is awesome!!!! loved this.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    While it makes sense for the story, I think a drop track is more intense than what I had in mind for this coaster (somewhere around a Space Mountain level). I think Hagrid's falls into a gray area straddling between a family coaster and a true thrill coaster because of that drop track which I think works for them, but not necessarily for Animal Kingdom. Part of what I wanted with this coaster was more accessibility for older people and young children.

  • @dennisd9804
    @dennisd98049 ай бұрын

    I can definitely see this coaster idea coming to fruition, but I’m obviously skeptical that Disney will choose such an elaborate option. They could easily recycle ideas from the former Universe of Energy, the dinosaur scenes from the Disneyland Railroad, etc, but I don’t think that they are looking for non-IP options for the area (or at least not old IP).

  • @SkaLuke99
    @SkaLuke999 ай бұрын

    As long as the entire Disney company stays intact and they don’t break up the parks and media branches, IP’s seem to be a prerequisite for any parks expansion/overhaul budgets. They don’t trust WDI to do anything original on a large scale and find it to be too risky. What executives constantly underestimate is the amount of Disney parks fans that don’t care for modern IPs and want to see original concepts. This part of the reason why they use events that used to promote new parks expansions as focus groups to bounce ideas off of. Taking the customers for granted will backfire in the next decade as Universal surpasses them

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Almost everything they do receives tons of push back and negative resentment and I think they've just brushed it off as a negative community, never occurring to them that they themselves might be the problem.

  • @GoetiaTV
    @GoetiaTV9 ай бұрын

    Love the idea! I’d be so disappointed if they got rid of Dinosaur. Personally I think it’s a better experience than Indiana Jones.

  • @peppermint23
    @peppermint237 ай бұрын

    I'll never forget riding Dinosaur (back when it was iconically titled Countdown to Extinction) as a kid with my dad. So thrilling, so immersive and SO fun! The land has TONS of potential. The kitsch/novelty (not cheesy cartoony kids stuff) and storytelling elements are the strongest parts of the park for me.

  • @michaelfaussett6508
    @michaelfaussett65089 ай бұрын

    I love the layout of your roller coaster you should send this video to Disney imagineers and have them look at it because I would love to ride it.

  • @giannabruce7174
    @giannabruce71749 ай бұрын

    As someone who hopes to one day design for theme parks and also lacks artistic talent haha I think it's honestly amazing and inspiring how clearly and completely you were able to lay out your idea for this ride. From the simple drawings, to the sound effects, to your use of rollercoaster tycoon I admire the ingenuity you applied in designing this attraction!!

  • @STSGuitar16
    @STSGuitar169 ай бұрын

    I get that Dinoland can feel kinda cheap in comparison to other lands, but I have always really loved that section of the park. Some of my very earliest Disney memories are of eating at the Donald Duck sit-down breakfast in Dino land during our first few trips to the parks with my parents and siblings (along with my aunt, uncle, and cousins who are all similarly aged to my siblings and I). Those early memories of Dinoland and experiencing that magic as a kid remain some of my most fond memories ever at WDW. I find the little shops there to be some of the most well-themed at all of WDW in terms of details and making it feel like a real-life place with all of props and visual gags they have incorporated. Tons of fun little details to discover, so I always make sure to stop and take a look around at all the small things that they have incorporated into that land that so many people won't even consider because they believe Dinoland to be inherently lesser than other lands. Idk, I am almost certainly in the minority with this take, bit I have truly always loved the vibe of Dinoland. There is obvious room for improvement, but surely I'm not the only one who actually enjoyed Chester and Hester's Dino-rama and Primeval Whirl, right? It does feel a bit out of place, but that isn't because of poor theming. Like I said, there are plenty of details in the theming that get overlooked there, but when you stop to take it in and consider all of the little details, it actually is just as heavily themed as the rest of the park. It actually does feel like a real roadside carnival at times, which is exactly what the theming aims to do there. The argument really just comes down to whether or not that sort of "roadside attraction" type of land belongs in AK, which is a point that I can understand both sides of the argument. It will definitely be interesting to see where they actually end up taking the land, but I would be a liar if I said I won't miss Dinoland, warts and all.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    For being a cheap addition, Dino-rama really justifies its existence with its story and theming in how it's incorporated into the overall land. Also, I'm also a fan of a good wild mouse coaster, so I never hated it like everyone else pretended to do. I get why it people don't understand it, but I also think that its time is long past and something more exciting should take its place.

  • @STSGuitar16

    @STSGuitar16

    9 ай бұрын

    @@PoseidonEntertainment oh yeah, a good wild mouse is good, clean fun. We always loved that one. To this very day my siblings and I will STILL say “Please stand before exiting. Bye Bye!” to each other in that southern voice at the end of Primeval Whirl every once in a while lmao. We have always loved that one. I don’t really get why they demolished it when they did without having anything planned to take it’s place considering that little lot has been needlessly sitting empty for a few years now. Actually, I think I remember reading something about them no longer being able to find replacement parts for the ride vehicles so I guess that’s why they tore it down early. Tis a shame. People can hate on wild mouse coasters all they want but I guarantee they have a good time on the ride. Obviously it’s not a great original attraction, but the theme and spinning cars always made it a fun little aside during a day at AK, imo.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    @@STSGuitar16 Yeah, I also heard it had to do with maintenance. Granted its capacity wasn't great, but it did always seem to have a decently long line and I wouldn't consider it unpopular.

  • @DinkyKnag
    @DinkyKnagАй бұрын

    You had me halfway with you for about half of the video, but when the Roller Coaster Tycoon portion came on, you had a vice grip on my attention and fully in favor of this idea.

  • @erinskai4973
    @erinskai49739 ай бұрын

    Love the use of roller coaster tycoon to showcase your idea!

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Given more time, I probably would have developed the whole ride for the video but I have a busy month. It might be worth completing the theming in the track and uploading it though.

  • @EagleRyan14
    @EagleRyan149 ай бұрын

    This is a really great idea! I’d much prefer improving Dinoland to replacing it with IP that don’t fit well thematically. The only thing I’d change about your coaster concept would be to ensure that the track before and after the show building is fully covered to that the ride can operate in inclement weather. Since 90% of the ride is indoors, it would be a shame to lose it in a Florida thunderstorm, especially when Everest has to be closed as well during those times.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    You make a good point, although I think it loses its impressive facade in that case. Still, Animal Kingdom should be built out in other areas and include more indoor dark rides, not only for capacity, but to mitigate the thunder storm problem.

  • @EagleRyan14

    @EagleRyan14

    9 ай бұрын

    @@PoseidonEntertainment I was thinking you could still have the impressive rockwork facade, but the coaster could go directly into the mountain, similar to how Big Thunder Mountain leaves the station and goes into the first tunnel.

  • @GFHGGDJHJHJ

    @GFHGGDJHJHJ

    9 ай бұрын

    Why couldn't the replacement land be a Zootopia land? That IP would have made sense.

  • @user-er3tr4dt5h
    @user-er3tr4dt5h9 ай бұрын

    I think your idea, while better than Disney's replacements, is too similar to Countdown To Extinction story wise. I feel a more interesting concept for a new attraction the land could revolve around other extinct animals beside dinosaurs.

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree that it is quite similar in some areas, though I personally see it as distinctly different enough to stand out. I can understand disagreement to that though.

  • @CoolBoy-hs5rq
    @CoolBoy-hs5rq3 ай бұрын

    This has inspired me to recreate this in tpt2 or nl2

  • @dynamo_danamo
    @dynamo_danamo9 ай бұрын

    Oh wow, I like this speculative, workshopping video 😮❤

  • @SliceOfRandom
    @SliceOfRandom9 ай бұрын

    I love this idea! I'd plan a whole dinosaur disney vacation for an actual rollercoaster like this! Top notch theming is supposed to be disney's forte, and if applied correctly, could save the entirety of Dinoland for the new generations 💜 hope the executives are taking notes 👀

  • @denisemcgilvrey3966
    @denisemcgilvrey39669 ай бұрын

    Kids are fascinated with dinosaurs. There is so much potential to do this right without losing it all.

  • @catpella
    @catpella7 ай бұрын

    Dinosaur is my favorite ride at Animal Kingdom because it's dinosaur themed and neat, so I fully support your idea of getting rid of other things to make way for a coaster. I also like how well you illustrated the ride and queue. On a personal level I would like to have it be a little more open air, or at minimum not have as much of the flashing/strobing as you're depicting in here - the simple selfish reason being that my absence seizures have gotten far worse over time but I still want to go on this. I get needing some kind of lighting effect for time travel but I'd rather see like light rising around you and a single bright flash to reflect the time travel then the pulsating patterns.

  • @deadpoolrlz9685
    @deadpoolrlz96858 ай бұрын

    They should update dinoland but more scientific accurate with feathered dinosaurs

  • @neyshagonzalez3866
    @neyshagonzalez38669 ай бұрын

    I’d love more videos like these of rides that you think could & should be renovated with a new & themed concept!

  • @andreamaitner862
    @andreamaitner8629 ай бұрын

    I love this idea!!!! Well thought out and seems doable

  • @Shoulderpads-mcgee
    @Shoulderpads-mcgee9 ай бұрын

    Back when universe of energy closed, I was desperately hoping that the animatronics would be recycled in Dinoland to create a more family friendly dinosaur attraction for those who don’t want to be in dark places with scary dinosaurs over on dinosaur. I had no idea something like that was in the original plan for the land! And I like your concept, a time traveling rollercoaster sounds really cool and you could definitely accomplish some cool portal effects using tech similar to escape from gringotts like when the dragon seems to take you through the screen. But I do think the idea of being perused by a carnotaurus and some of the story beats too similar to dinosaur next door. I think you could tweak this to maybe show case the dangers of herbivores since they can be a threat too. Maybe getting caught up in a stampede of triceratopses or stegosauruses could be fun. But of course this doesn’t need tweaks anyway because Disney would probably never do something this interesting or not IP driven :(

  • @GLJosh
    @GLJosh9 ай бұрын

    Dinosaur themed Jungle Cruise sounded pretty cool and would work thematically with the "college intern" vibe of the land.

  • @felixcortes1685
    @felixcortes16859 ай бұрын

    love the idea.... dinoland has so much potential with the magic bands. also society of explorers and adventures

  • @hidden4846
    @hidden48465 ай бұрын

    if you ever want to build a roller coaster theirs's a game called planet coaster on steam is worth the 40 - 50$

  • @Baller462

    @Baller462

    Ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @mjl11
    @mjl119 ай бұрын

    Maybe Indy could go to this temple and in the temple there are still dinosaurs alive. I mean the dude has seen Aliens, so living dinosaurs in a cave isnt that far fetched.

  • @zigywig1711
    @zigywig17119 ай бұрын

    I don’t know, Dinoland U.S.A. just felt like it was doomed to fail from the start. I mean what we’re they thinking putting a tacky carnival-style area with cheap aesthetics in arguably one of the most beautifully-exotic themed parks in the world? I like Dinosaur a lot too but this change was inevitable unfortunately. I’d say I have faith Disney will make better changes following D23 but who the heck knows at this point 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @PoseidonEntertainment

    @PoseidonEntertainment

    9 ай бұрын

    Chester and Hester's wasn't original though. That space used to be occupied by a small attraction that was essentially a tent with dinosaur bones.

  • @Mylhibug
    @Mylhibug9 ай бұрын

    This is way more creative than ANYTHING coming out of Disney right now.

  • @ronaldoakes7139
    @ronaldoakes71399 ай бұрын

    Disney definitely seems to be a bit stuck on the idea that (almost) everything they do - and everything that they put into the parks - has to be tied to preexisting IP. Not that Comcast/Universal is much better about that. I definitely think that this idea has some legs, and a solid (or another solid) E-Ticket might actually make me venture into Dino-land next time I am willing to venture into Florida. I will admit that in all 4 of my visits to Animal Kingdom, it is the one land I've never managed to visit. Even with my strong dislike for James Cameron's overrated 3D effects demo reel, I have been to the World of Pandora and rode Flight of Passage *once*. Personally, as a fan of classic high fantasy, a player of fantasy tabletop roleplaying games (Pathfinder, D&D), and an unpublished writer of one fantasy novel, I would love to see the Beastly Kingdom make a return. I would also like to see the lake area beyond Dinoland, or another similar area, used for an expansion where aquatic and semi-aquatic birds, reptiles, and mammals (maybe mostly from the Americas) could be featured. Animal Kingdom can always use more living animals. And with the amount of open water available on Walt Disney World property, there is no reason not to take advantage of it for Animal Kingdom and habitats - especially since Disney's Animal Kingdom is also a responsible member of the Association of Zoos and Aquariums and participates in their species conservation programs.

  • @yousaysilver
    @yousaysilver9 ай бұрын

    the things i would do for this to be real

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