▶ Check out my Disgaea 4 Complete+ review here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dX-AyaWporDKfLg.html ◀ In this review I said "well-done port" when I should have said "well-optimized port", especially considering I was only discussing the technical aspects of the port. While I do not agree with NISA's decision to remove features from the port (something I did not know until it was announced yesterday), I wanted to clear up that I was specifically talking about the technical aspects when I discussed the port in the review.

The thing about the story is most disgaea games parody the cheesy tropes of jrpgs, anime, and really any trope they can make a good joke out of really. Typically there is good underlying story in disgaea especially once you get around to the final chapters. All the disgaea games I've finished (123&4) have had great stories. But to each his own though.

@sailent7756

5 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree. The parody is amazing and once they slap us all in the face with it they give us a solid story. I will respect anyone's opinion on what is good story telling, but will argue against it. Disgaea series does have amazing stories.

I actually liked the story line D: You should give it more of a chance It's just nice to get a break after almost dying 3 times lmfao

Actually has customizable party members lol. The majority of Modern "RPGS" are basically seething they can never get this good.

I'm definitely a fan. Started from Disgea 2 in PS2 and transitioned to Disgea 2 Hour of Darkness PSP edition. Disgea 5 is outi in steam with a whooping sale! It's time to grind again!

I never grind in the entire game or post game. There ways to cut things fast the only two grinds i find is item world but each stage last one turn and stats growth from overlord training.

8:15 To the people who said he never mentioned forced grinding! This was a good review and sparked my interest, it only got so much hate because people don't have enough patience to stick around and watch till the end and seem to have all been looking for that point to have been made early on or something.

That's why its good to figure out the game work's it really don't take that long to figure out the combat style now when you start to figure out the stat's and weapons, some quest and unlocking some of the things in the dark asmbaly, and finding ledendary's incence's are a bit where it starts to get touchy.

my friend grinded so much in one of the earlier disgaea games and ascended so many times he could one shot the secret boss at a very low level

@azurekite3870

10 ай бұрын

wow good for him

Those Nis/Atlus rpg games are the best. Love them all. Been playing since PS2. Makai Kingdom and Disgaea series are the best of all.

if u can play a slime it's a good game

sorry, the scenes are not force on the player, you can click Y or triangle to skip them from the level menu. yup, you do not even need to start to watch it.

you didn't even touch into reincarnations, and grinding up to level 9999, then starting back at level 1 with bonus stats, plus item world inhabitants, kind of completely missed the mark on the soul of what disgaea's about. It's rpg crack for those who love grindfests.

@1MantisPhoenix

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks you PTSD Rabbit, would you say 2 is still the best:? PC is all im getting this on. Should I get 5? i started 2 last night and got two hours in without even looking :D i love it; and what about number 1/?

@Bjorick

5 жыл бұрын

@@1MantisPhoenix#1 has a better story, #2 has better gameplay. haven't played 5, thinking of buying it but wondering if they fixed the bugs that were added in d3/d4 honestly

@sagalian

5 жыл бұрын

PTSD RABBIT I have a question: do you know why my stats stay the same after a certain level while getting a character to level 9999? For instance: my sage’s INT stops growing after level 6000

@Iby00

5 жыл бұрын

i have 100hrs of gameplay on 2 and highest guy is only 1200 admittedly the swap from adell to axel cycle hurst leveling up but to get to 9999 would be mad and would take him an insane amount of time. but yeah he did forget to metnion the main love of the game for some

@holydezmondgamez1728

3 жыл бұрын

I started with the first on ps4 and it you ignore the stuff like armsmaster and statition it does make the grinding a long drag.

Don t know why everybody hates disgea 5 story... I found it really nice for the game style and also really funny....is not like FFNTASY or XenoBlade but...I like it cuz is different

@Monday566

4 жыл бұрын

How can you say something so controversial yet so brave :v

@Sp4mMe

4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely hate it. The problem isn't the Disgaea wackiness - all previous games had it too. But they did enough to make you appreciate characters; at least some of them. And that's vaguely important if you are supposed to spend the next 200h with them. This one was just boring and stupid and a bunch of other things ... made the game a complete failure for me.

@chessnoob99

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sp4mMe I'm here for the gameplay and grind, really. I never mainly play something for it's story sooo I'm playing it... and I'm on that grind 😎

I hope they add in the features later down the line

I liked Disgaea because of the huge numbers... level 9999 with billions of stats

Grinding is not bad, I like grinding, but only if is done with a sense of progression. I love the old Final Fantasy grinding, because you level up fast and u get awesome items or abilities if u want to be a god in the next boss fight.

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

I also liked the progression in the early Final Fantasy games, they managed to balance their grinding well.

perhaps this is just me, but your voice is like from the dude from brackeys channel.. lol

That's what this game is all about dude lol

Actually I enjoy item wolrd it's good place to kill time and easy way to hit 9999 as well o.o so can't say that there is THAT much grind involved least im sure any old disgaea player know what I mean.

@chessnoob99

3 жыл бұрын

if you say that there isnt that much grind- you need to grind everywhere tho

@wlianetaalfa4377

3 жыл бұрын

@@chessnoob99 i know but I just feel its more easy than in older games is all.

Aaah, I remember the first time I played a Disgaea title... it was Disgaea DS and my butt was crushed by the first boss... Yeah... Midboss beated my ass pretty hard...

@azurekite3870

10 ай бұрын

yea and for the first you should. destoryed the triangle that mage qnd archer where standing on right away cuz it letted them attack one of your characters twice in a row.

Woah this comment section makes Disgaea fans look bad. Shaming a newcomer to the series with an air of superiority saying you need another 200hours game time to appreciate the game or that you don't understand what makes a JRPG. You triggered some of them as far as to attack you personally targeting your voice. I for one liked the review and got the information that I came for as a fellow newcomer to the series while understanding that people can also have their own opinion about what makes a game good. I might pick it up in steam sales because the battle system looks fun. I'm also not a fan of grinding a lot in JRPS shame on me !!

@kageraavarrthun

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a disgaea fan and everything he said is valid. I agree with all of it.

@Scitch-et4vk

2 жыл бұрын

Nah the guy is just clueless and blaming the game for his inexperience . You don't jump in to the fifth game in a series and moan it isn't for newcomers lmao

I’m having a very bad time right now with the pc port, all the terrain keeps flickering in and out too distracting to play even tbh, gonna refund soon but I hope to fix this problem before that happens

Forced grinding? That's pretty much the point of the whole game... Have you played any disgaea games before this?

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

No, I mentioned in the review this was my first. I expected grinding, but was not a fan of the way the game went about doing so.

@awakenedsoul2638

5 жыл бұрын

cublikefoot Forced grinding is wrong to say. Every RPG has grinding that is how you level up, getting stronger to face stronger enemies. If you are not a fan of grinding. Do not play RPGs this game genre is not for you.

@NoblesseOblige-17

5 жыл бұрын

Great Asian, Whether and/or how much of the grinding is necessary depends on the specific RPG. Not all require it.

@awakenedsoul2638

5 жыл бұрын

Noblesse Oblige Looks like you are missing the meaning of RPG. With your reason looks like you are referring to games that have RPG elements which does not require a lot of grinding. These games are not real RPG. Or maybe you said not all require it because you are playing the game easy so playing it easy you will not do a lot of grinding. A pure RPG game RPG simulation, ARPG, JRPG, Turn Base RPG and MMORPG these kinds of RPG requires a lot of grinding. Playing every RPG I like requires grinding. It is up to you how much grinding you want to do. I know what I am talking about. I do not understand why this review is complaining a lot about grinding things you should not complain about because you are playing an RPG. If you do not like this way of playing then go play other genres.

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

RPG is one of my favorite genres and several do it right without grinding. For example, this year I reviewed Dragon Quest XI, Ys VIII, Sorcery Saga, and Omega Quintet (to name a few) and all of these I was able to go through with little to no grinding.

the voice acting in this game was actually surprisingly good. It was one of the main draws to keep me engaged in the story. I do wish they would just make a Disgaea with a fully serious/ dark story though. it really is the only glaring negative of the whole series. Also, your comment on the "forced grinding" is ridiculous. let me explain why. To start Disgaea is a game all about leveling up your characters. Did you think a game that allows you to level characters all the way to 9999 was going to have little to no grind? Plus not all grind is bad, and that is especially true for the Disgaea series. They literally give you so many options when it comes to grinding. And it's very much like Pokemon where you want to level up your characters to obtain new moves, unlock new versions, etc. And the Item world? You realize that is one of the biggest draws of the game. People spend so so much time in the item world and enjoy it. When you enter the item world its awesome because of the one you can level up your characters a ton, but then you have the added benefit of getting a big power boost which can then be given to any character in your party. Two birds with one stone. And that doesn't even mention capturing the innocence in items which can then be transferred to any other item for stat bonuses. Then, of course, you can also level up the innocence. not to mention on top of all this you can reincarnate characters back to level 1 but they will keep all their abilities and a percentage of their stats from before the reincarnation, so a level 1 character might actually be as powerful as a level 50 character. The point is there are so many systems in Disgaea to have fun with and all of them result in making you stronger. I actually need to go to the cheat shop and artificially make the enemies harder so that I don't steamroll them in the story mode. If you really had your characters so low that the story mode was too hard without purposefully making an effort to grind then you simply took little to no advantage of all the tools the game provides you. Take this analogy as an example. You're playing a jrpg and you learn new spells from vendors in town, Armor and weapons from entering tournaments, and party members from capturing enemies. However, you never take the time to explore or use the tools the game provides and instead only use the basic slash ability to kill the enemies. Well at some point your going to become underpowered and need to grind to become strong enough to kill them with a slash ability. But if you complain about that in a review nobody is going to take you seriously. The game literally gives you so many alternate routes to simply have fun on top of becoming stronger. The point is they are tools. And it's not just that they are begrudgingly necessary if you want to progress in the game because they make you stronger. They add to the games fun factor giving you new things to do as well as make you stronger. anyways I sincerely hope you give the game another shot because you seem to of completely missed many of the aspects that make it so great.

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

You are right in that the game provides several methods to get stronger. I actually ended up powering through the story with an extremely overleveled healer (that could one-shot most enemies) due to the unique evilities granted to that class. It allowed me to get through most of the game without grinding too much. However, I tried to explain in another comment that I was not criticizing the game for having grinding in the first place, but rather that the grinding was forced on the player and felt like it was taking the place of actual game content. Instead of providing new, unique, and fun levels, stories, and other content, the game instead encourages the player to grind to fill that void (something perfectly demonstrated through the inclusion of an endless item world). I much prefer when a game can continuously provide new and interesting experiences without resorting to endless repetition (something that Dragon Quest XI did really well this year). As such, I stopped playing shortly after beating the main storyline. It is definitely more of a personal preference, but bothered me enough to warrant inclusion in the review. As for giving the game another shot, I do want to try playing through the other games in the series to see how they compare. Although I did like this game (a 7/10 is definitely a good score from me), I have heard good things about some of the predecessors (especially story-wise).

The d-pad only moves the cursor in cardinal directions. You could use that instead of left stick on narrow bridges. Also, if you require grinding to beat the game, it's very likely that your battle tactics aren't perfect. My brother also grinds in disgaea, but i can go through the games without it. It's a matter of character placement, luring tactics, bottlenecking, and using the throw mechanics. I've based this info off of previous disgaea titles, but i'm pretty sure it's the same for D5.

"Brief delay" "worth it" "fuck off" Two of these words were said by you and one was said by the collective.

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

I'd rather have a delayed product than a broken one!

i change voice acting to japanese and read english titles :) EZ":learning;

Found you on the steam page, good review

sounds for the most part like a standard Disgaea game when it comes to the cons, except perhaps the story, some of the stories in the Disgaea are pretty good from what I've heard(only played Disgaea 1 and 2).

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

I do plan on trying Disgaea 1, so hopefully that is the case

@zong2360

5 жыл бұрын

The grind is a norm/standard for a Disgaea game too :)

@dynastystar5515

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, thats what I was saying was that typically, alot of people play Disgaea because it makes grinding fun.

@yakanamu

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure about Disgaea 5, but on Disgaea 1, remember you can play as two main character Laharl or Etna (to start as Etna requires some hidden command). This will result having two different story lines (it's been so long, i don't remember if two endings were same or not)

@dynastystar5515

5 жыл бұрын

You start with Etna and Laharl in Disgaea 1. I can't speak of the hidden command because I never got Etna's story completed from reading her journal so I don't know how her story plays out.

You dont have to grind to beat the main story, even if the enemy are higher level than you you can still beat it with strategy, i currently on chapter 13 and my level are always lower than the enemy, but i think it's well balanced

"grinding " is a bad way to put it, its current set up is better than most games where you stay perfectly sync with enemies and never have to play higher lvl NPC's, this offers the fun "under dog" feel where you play until you have to do some "side battles , item world ect." I think the "bad story " is a parody of how a game that is following 4 other titles can not take it to seriously and focus on the amazing combat and party and skill tree systems. I think coming from playing other games the idea of having to "grind a bit" to win makes that hard fight that mush more epic to win in a way. I understand there is a balance to this trade off, but I think as well its a way this kinda game shows the player that there was a Much better way to complete battles and test new strats/ synergies of the crazy amount of options given. SOme modern RPG's a player only hangs out at a lvl for so sort of time before shooting into some higher teir that the tiers themselves are hollow of the joy of obtaining them.

to beat the story mode... you had to grind(not including the learning item world)...???

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, excluding the item world introduction I did have to grind for a bit in order to get my party's levels back up. I did this a couple times throughout the story mode.

@trowabarden

5 жыл бұрын

thats rough i havent had the problem on both the switch and ps4 ... then that might be just experience from playing the other titles

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this was my first one, so I was still learning all of the mechanics and such.

@samlouix5587

5 жыл бұрын

It's because he doesn't know or care about Disgaea haha

@jonathangoodwin5609

4 жыл бұрын

@@samlouix5587 what do you mean he doesn't care? He gave it a fairly good score.

Great game loveit from the #1st i wish they rework the pixel a bit

i dont think the voice acting in disgaea 5 is decent. I believe it is very good considering it is a smaller publisher . Nis America games really have good English voices

It's definitely a grindfest but that's the game in general. Actually I think that's most ALL tactical RPGs in general. Even XCOMs requires a level of grinding. Disgaea just has the super grind option if you want to go that deep into. That's true for the characters or combat too. You can beat the game with the bare minimum of knowledge. Now if you want the high rewards, strongest versions of each class and all the legendary variants of things, then yes, it's a steep curve. But you can definitely beat the game just using the most basic approaches in combat. It's why the story is relatively short and new games plus with multiple endings a standard for the series. Also the english is probably the worst part of the series... A lot of the charm and humor comes from the Japanese VAs.

LOL That voice, I didn't know Yogi Bear does game reviews on KZread.

@cub

4 жыл бұрын

Haven't heard that one before!

You definitely did something wrong along the way. I never had to grind a single time to beat this game.

should i refund it? i've just installed it and i'm already getting doubts.

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

It is a pretty fun game, even if the story was not all that great. If you are not too keen on grinding, I would wait for a deeper discount, but if you like that kind of gameplay, then give it a shot. If you are doubting the game due to its cut content, that is understandable too, as NISA messed up pretty badly there (and a lot of people refunding it may just be the message they need...).

@oxidonitroso88

5 жыл бұрын

yeah the content cut threw me off... not because of the lack of network play but because they kept that info until the game was out. I've already played other disgaea games and liked the gameplay (the story not so much) but that move pissed me off, selling a inCOMPLETE version.

@awakenedsoul2638

5 жыл бұрын

oxidonitroso88 If it is a real complete game and the company did not rip off its customers will you feel the same?

@jonathangoodwin5609

4 жыл бұрын

@@oxidonitroso88 all the complete version does(to my knowledge) is add the dlc, though.

@oxidonitroso88

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathangoodwin5609 i've already ended that game, yes it adds the dlc, the thing was, prebuying the game thinking that it would have the dlc + all the content of ps4 version (being able to play with other people characters, worlds etc), but it came without network content. and they sold it as the COMPLETE version, when actually was butchered some game content... It's still a good game and i'm over it now, but back then i was pissed off

I cannot imagine how Disgaea looks, feels, and plays to newcomers. Watching DSP play Disgaea 4 & 5 is perhaps the best gauge for a veteran Disgaea player to see newcomers play. A review about a Disgaea game that only talks about the story and bemoans grinding will always miss the potential of the game. The Disgaea series has never taken the story too seriously. It feels like they want the player to know that the story is absurd so as not to get in the way of where the focus should lie. The series focus is on optimization. If a player is into games for nice graphics, a speedy playthrough with a compelling story, and the ability to defeat enemies based on player skill alone without any character requirements, Disgaea is absolutely not for you. Maybe God of War, Fallout 4, or GTA are for you. If a player is into playing games to figure out how to optimize their character, if for no other reason to optimize their character or to take down the optional big bad after fighting 5 big bads beforehand and pumping the final big bad to the max, then Disgaea might be for you. There will definitely be skipping story scenes and grinding if you fall into the latter. Check out Cool Ghosts review for a different perspective on a newcomers experience with the game.

@VedNyrva

4 жыл бұрын

Finally someone understanding what disgaea is all about. For me, it's the best kind of srpg you can find : beginner friendly but deep to a point you can't imagine if you're new to the series. Now for the story : saying it's bad is completely missing the point. It's all about fun. It never takes itself seriously. It's made to make you laugh and that's what I love about this game. Music : same here, in 5 you clearly recognize themes from earlier disgaea games plus new ones and music alone makes the game memorable. The whole game is a fun package. You want to have a good time, look no further. If you want 'the last of us' kind of scenario, just looking at the art style is enough to know what it's all about, so clearly joke is on you.

Nonsense

$16 today on steam after tax

The game made his popularity thanks to the possibility to level up all of your infinite characters to level 9999. You can't say that the actual selling point of this game is a bad thing, this is exactly what players are looking for in a Disgaea game. I can understand that as your first, you might have been disapointed, but come on, this is a subjective point of view.

@dakotakade3547

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, reviews of the game are subjective. He doesn't like grinding. Therefore, he doesn't like Disgaea. But he STILL gave it a 7/10, despite disliking the main feature and appeal of the game and it's entire story.

@awakenedsoul2638

4 жыл бұрын

Hyon D For me about grinding it is not actually subjective when reviewing game. Because if you reviewed this game and that is the point of game it has a lot of grinding which is not forced then he does not have the right to say that the grinding in any RPG is con. That is the reality of playing RPG grinding is needed whether it is forced or not. He needs to improve the way he review games. If he does not like grinding he better stay away from RPG. Its like saying he does not like Disgaea for that feature.

@awakenedsoul2638

4 жыл бұрын

@@dakotakade3547 He should consider playing other game genres.

@dakotakade3547

4 жыл бұрын

@@awakenedsoul2638 He's free to play, review, and have an opinion on whatever game or genre he wants. Don't like it? Go watch a different review.

@awakenedsoul2638

4 жыл бұрын

@@dakotakade3547 Passing back my comment to me. Look at the dislikes it is proof that he does not know how to do reviews. I will watch whatever I want to watch. How can I make a good comment if I will not watch his video are you that stupid? Yes there are many things that is subjective but you have to review it right. I know you will not agree because you are egoistic. He has his own opinion but his review is not good because of the things he said lots of people disagree and I agree with them.

Who the fuck buys a JRPG and gets mad that you have to Grind

the biggest fault in D5 is seraphina....

"Forced grinding"??? D5 is the easiest of all the games, and requires no grinding at all. I put it up to 20 star difficulty the second it was possible, and still quickly outpaced the content in terms of power. With all the systems in D5, you can literally get away with using only the main character from beginning to end, and finishing it with insane amount of power without grinding once. Capture + Extract = Crazy OP.

port is NOT well done

@FirdausIsmail1

5 жыл бұрын

really bro? whats wrong with the it? any major bugs or glitches

@maosama3695

5 жыл бұрын

@@FirdausIsmail1 people are just overreacting and jumping in the bandwagon... most of those features that got removed are basically useless though NISA should have properly disclosed the changes even if it's minor detail.

This is a really bad review for anyone who likes Disgaea. 'Forced grinding?' 10 levels through the item world is not forced grinding!!!!!!!!! ahahaha

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

My main point with that being that the game has me grinding to level up characters just to complete the main storyline. In the post-game, that's fine, but so early on? That's a nope from me, it just felt like a lazy attempt to pad the story length.

@awakenedsoul2638

5 жыл бұрын

Sam louix I never expected someone will comment when reviewing an RPG that grinding is being forced to the player while on the other hand grinding is natural to an RPG it is up to you how much you like to do it.

@jonathangoodwin5609

4 жыл бұрын

@@cub just a minor nitpick, but there is an easy workaround for the grinding in this game. You know the research squad in the game? Characters working in that gain exp. So all you really need to do is put the lower level characters there for a few levels. When I did that, it didn't take long for research squad characters to out level the ones I was using. This way you only need to focus on leveling a few characters directly, and others level themselves. Doesn't completely remove the grinding, but it does lessen and speed it up somewhat.

@Sp4mMe

4 жыл бұрын

And 10 levels is nothing. What matters is stuff like elementary affinity, good positioning and so on. You can wipe most maps with levels a fraction of that of the enemies. Essentially, you can either puzzle out how to solve the story maps - or grind and win that way. If you don't like grinding, well, don't do it. But you might have to actual stop and think about what you are doing instead then ...

Lol.... grinding....

You don't like grinding and you bought a JPRG? What are you doing with your money?

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

Not all JRPGs resort to grinding to inflate their playtimes, there have been several released in this year alone that show that you do not need grinding to make a good (and long) JRPG. Dragon Quest XI, Ys VIII, Cyberdimension Neptunia 4, and Memories of Celceta are just a few examples of such that I reviewed this year.

This was reviewed by someone who absolutely does not understand what the Disagea series is about. It's like a sports fan reviewing food for a cooking channel.

@Mephil

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. Listing grinding as a con is proof that this guy has no business playing this game, let alone reviewing it.

good game for ps4 comunitz,pc sux...

The comments on this video are a true example of the dangers of reviewing a long running series with a cult fanbase. Guys, it doesn't matter that we're used to these traits in the Disgaea series. The fact we're accustomed to them doesn't make them any less true. If you already know you want Disgaea 5 and you already feel like you know everything there is to know about it - including quality of port, don't watch a bloody review on it you nitwits.

@sagalian

5 жыл бұрын

Rethice I have a question: do you know why my stats stay the same after a certain level while getting a character to level 9999? For instance: my sage’s INT stops growing after level 6000

@theprogenitor951

5 жыл бұрын

I double dipped. I got it for PS4 and the PC.

One complaint I have of the game is the really lackluster English voice-acting. it just sounds like people reading off of a script and putting no emotion or effort into the characters.

lol This guy used dlc characters at the begging instead of waiting and enjoying the game. I did the same and just restated the game.

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the DLC characters fell off eventually. I would have been stuck had I not been leveling the other characters at the same time.

@jonathangoodwin5609

4 жыл бұрын

The dlc characters are good, though.

@chessnoob99

3 жыл бұрын

Nisa is go to if you've never played any other of the games, shes strong but wont one-shot everyone.

"Port is really well done". No it isn't, please stop lying. Or do your research before making such statements. For starters, character sprites and text do not scale to higher resolutions well, and it makes everything look terrible, even on 1080p it looks off but ifyou go to 2k and higher it's abysmal. Secondly, they completely removed one of the fan favourite features of disagea: custom maps. You can no longer create custom maps and share them with others, share items with others, send messages etc. There is zero interactivity with others while playing the game which will sucks for a lot of us. Lastly, game's performance is all over the place. Shouldn't be a problem with if you have a good CPU, but those on the lower end can have problems because their CPU will throttle the performance. I will also mention multiple people complaining they can't start the game at all, although I didn't have this issue. The PS4 and Switch versions are SUPERIOR in every way: they have better performance, they have more content, and they actually look better for crying out loud. This is not a good port, this is a disgrace, I am very disappointed this fantastic game was butcher so much, Disgaea deserves better.

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, for what I was talking about I should have said "well-optimized" port rather than "well-done" port. I'm going to add a stickied comment to clear that up.

@thefool8224

5 жыл бұрын

"The following network items are not available on the Steam version of Disgaea 5 Complete: Data Shop • Everybody’s NW, Someone’s Records Netherworld Edit Shop • Netherworld Network, User Netherworld Map Edit Shop • Facility Removed Settings • User Netherworld, User News Strategy Assembly • Spread News to Everyone!, Give Item to a Friend! Netherworld Hub • Map Edit Shop NPC" SOURCE - ( nisamerica.com/blog/notes-steam-version-disgaea-5-complete )

@cesars.9912

5 жыл бұрын

@@thefool8224 why the fuck tho

@1MantisPhoenix

5 жыл бұрын

you get filters to make it look as best you can with aliasing over the sprites. I feel raw pixels are the best. Trixels for life.

only the first game is good

I would buy the pc version but.....some content is missing. I’m not going to buy a game with less content than a console version. I’ll just buy the switch version as PlayStation is now run by puritans and there HQ in California...

@elbattarijamil7781

5 жыл бұрын

Just pirate it if you still want to try it but afraid of losing 30 bucks

@onup1475

5 жыл бұрын

Jadjad Dark I've decided to buy the switch version as it's portable.

Funny how most of your cons is what actually makes a disgaea game a disgaea game. So prob a 8 or 9 game for me seeing that I loved disgaea 4

LOL i turned it off when you said "i dont like grinding in JRPG".... dont buy them then because thats what most of them are about /facepalm

@tomready9015

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it got me like what? yeah it kind of comes with the territory in A JRPG. Though Some JRPG's I think don't really even require grinding if your good enough. But I would think any RPG or JRPG were generally meant for grinding. Or any game with a high level system. Grinding to me is earning your right to become over powered. Which is why I like to play them sure it's the same for some others as well.

I dunno, I kinda like the story. Other than that, it's a good review.

what you talk about here is because you have never played a Disgaea game before, and as i do believe they have a mediocre way for teaching out the mechanics, it is by no means intended for new players to the series, and i would agree that it's the worst story of the 6 main games, the grinding is a key essential part of the game that is shown off since Disgaea 1, i know that you don't get it but those who have played since the first will agree that while tedious is fun to travel and battle through the item world and the outmatched level difficulty also show the point that you are not meant to go enter the item world without a good strategy, sometimes when i played the older ones skipped sometimes by running out trough the gates to reach a room i can exit or call a Mr. Gency's Exit, i agree about the camera but we are already accustomed to it also this wasn't that big of a problem in older Disgaeas and even a pro sometimes

I just bought this game, couple days ago and i must say, that yeah, story is most weak/generic thing, in this game.

5:40 ... I take it you never played a Disgaea game before Disgaea 5 if you didn't expect grinding.I mean your talking about a game where the soft level cap is 9,999 and the hard level cap is 195,999 if you include reincarnation levels. 6:43... Eh, I wouldn't use the item world to grind them out, then again I am use to D1 and D2 item worlds where you can easily get stuck from bad RNG on level generation quit often where a enemy is behind a wall that is way to tall to get past or over a gap way to far to throw over. Best way to grind those up is to unlock Cheat mode in the assembaly and then crank up the level of the enemies and go into world 1-1 and just keep one shotting the enemies fairly quickly, I got things like my Fighter from not having one at all to 4 stars out of 5 in a matter of about 10 minutes slaughtering level 14 Prinnies. The game also isn't meant to be played like a regular TRPG, the entire series started as a spoof on the TRPG genre, you are meant to do stupid stuff and get way OP, like I said earlier the level cap is almost 200,000.

Disliked: It is a Turn-Based Strategy Game, but you keep calling it a JRPG.

@cub

4 жыл бұрын

It is a TRPG from Japan, so yes it is a JRPG.

It sucks cuz I ignored this game because it had so many negative reviews... but they are all based on something that's NOT in the game... can people just focus on what IS in the game? Like I don't give a fuck about features that I've never even heard about. Jesus weebs are toxic

The problem with Disgaea 5 story is that it is much worse than Disgaea 2, which also is not tha great, so ye... completed the game year ago, but still remember being unsatisfying with it. The gameplay is okay though.

“Another problem is the forced grinding” ahhh there’s the problem, it’s not for everyone but this game is all about tweaking numbers to your hearts content

Lol worst review I bet you didn't even come close to beating it at all

@cub

5 жыл бұрын

I beat the game before reviewing it and had 79 hours total.

@sunnyrachelsson3169

5 жыл бұрын

@@cub I put 350hr into disgaea 3 and still didn't beat it all and I had everyone lv 9999 and the best weapons

@chessnoob99

3 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyrachelsson3169 he probably didnt grind and stayed balanced levels

@sunnyrachelsson3169

3 жыл бұрын

@@chessnoob99 you don't actually finish disgaea till you beat all the big bosses lol

"grinding is not something im particulary fond of when playing j-rpg's" wow

Imagine whining about grinding in a jrpg...