dude, if I follow recommend service intervals from KTM I would be bankrupt long time ago...

@michaelmacdonald329

4 жыл бұрын

KTM....Keep throwing money

@Danman1972

3 жыл бұрын

Its pretty much that way with most dirt bikes.

@archetypex65

3 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely true Wild. When I was road racing I figured that if I maintained my bike as fast as I could I could extend service interval hours I do the same now with my mountain bike suspension and drivetrain components and I'm able to double the recommended service intervals without any detrimental outcomes.

I watched probably 50 fork service vids and this guy is the only one that is a "true craftsman" for sure. The others, even guys that own shops, were doing things very sloppy, cutting corners and contaminating the systems. Great work, this guy is the only guy, besides me, that can work on my bikes.

Great information I really like how your videos break the process down and give an explanation of what and why you should do this especially for those of us who aren’t mechanically inclined lol

Got to keep the suspension fresh. Good info brother.

Suspension was the first mod I did to my CR500. Not only serviced, but revalved and resprung for my weight & riding style

Cool video , defiantly a art to a major service on forks

Great information and well presented video. Cheers

Suspension maintenance isn't talked about enough. When I get a used bike, whether to flip or build up, that is usually the first thing I check. Linkage bearings are usually a good indicator. If they are toast, the rest of the suspension has been neglected as well. Like the bloopers Kyle.

@archetypex65

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on mountain. 👍 all you have to do is look at MotoGP or World Superbikes garages on a race weekend and see the maintenance they do in between every practice session and every race. same goes for mxgp or supermotos

@ilovecheesecake516

2 жыл бұрын

Do I get my suspension checked if my front forks are leaking a tiny bit of oil?

Great info thanks for sharing.... We service our forks and shocks at home pretty regularly. Dirty oil is a definite sign of future damage to upper cylinders!!! And yes you need all the right tools but when you have 10+ bikes it's more affordable to get the tools and learn to do it yourself!!! Thank you so much for sharing 👊😎

@A1soldiersaint

4 жыл бұрын

Any suggestions on valving and parts sources for a do-it-yourselfer?

@kevinegbert1251

4 жыл бұрын

2016KTM450 you’d be surprised at how much individual shims cost. The reason Suspension tuners and companies like Race Tech charge what they do is because of the cost of R&D required to develop a good setting for all of the different suspension designs, riding disciplines, skill levels, etc. You’re not just paying for parts.

@A1soldiersaint

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinegbert1251 understood, figured that was a given. Im just shopping around for good prices and asking others where they source their suspension parts. Where do you buy your suspension parts?

Great video Kile. .... I service my forks every 70hrs and the fork oil comes out quite clean though... unlesss i have a seal damage 30/40 hrs interval is a bit too much.

Glad you did this vid. So many guys spend top dollar for the latest bike for the latest technology but that's all for nothing if you dont service it properly. 👍😁

That hill climb at the end is death defying

Awesome video! I had no idea the suspension is so complex! Thanks for the basic lesson and great video!

Bloopers were great!

Love the ending of the video

great content but love the bloopers at the end!!!!

Great info thank you.

I think an important component that has been left out is maintenance in between service intervals. If you clean the fork stanchions and seals and shock piston and seals off after every ride and use the Seal Mate or a similar tool you will potentially extend the life of the seals and reduce the amount of dirt being pushed into the suspension oil. Instead of a 30 hour service interval you may extend that to 40 or even 50 hours, of course this will depend on the type of riding you do and the environment you ride in.

I have the kyb inserts on my ktm and after about 10hrs they start getting a little softer. I then JUST change the oil ( inner & outer chambers ) and back to the firmer yet plush feeling I like.

I heard a good bit of advice towards the end that i too like to pass along to customers when.i can. Use the off season to have your service work performed. The shop won't be busy so the bike wont be at the shop as long and i can say for certain that the bikes i work on this time of year typically recieve a little extra attention. Not that techs in the summer cut corners its just reality that a tech will put out better quality work with more attention to details when they have the time and are not in a rush.

I own the fork tools. I do seals and swap oil in the forks. Shocks....I've not ventured into that yet. I know you can certainly, dissemble the shock, inspect and replace parts, reassemble and refill with oil in your garage. You just need to take care to bleed the oil. Its recommended you use a vacuum pump, but you really don't need one from my understanding. You can take it to a suspension shop or dealer that has the fill gauged to recharge the shock with nitrogen. I usually just farm the shock work out.

I like the bloopers at the end.

@DirtBikeChannel

4 жыл бұрын

It was fun editing that. I'm pretty sure I laughed more than anyone else will!

MotoXperts, re-valved and did a complete fork and shock service on my KTM that was two clicks away from perfect.

@kevinegbert1251

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Potempa glad you’re loving it! ❤️

Great video!

I always laugh when you say winter is your down time for riding . Out here in Cali we right mostly fall to spring time and lay off in the summer due to the heat .

Hello, Please tell me which oil will be better? if factory oil is not so good. Motul SEA 5W ?

Hello , I'd like to ask how much oil measure lowring 5 cm up side down wp xc 2013 and how much oil does not use lowring. I hope you can help me. thank you very much.

A suspension guy in Australia that works for a lot of pro MX/sx riders told me 20 hrs for the shock and 30to40hrs for forks

Kile... have one question you may be able to help me. I have 350 EXCF Six Days and did my WP Xplor forks today and when disassembling that usual white washer was not there (both sides), so the spring sita directly to that plastic part. This is normal?

I got about 24 hours on my 2019 yz450f and I think I’m gonna have a suspension tuneup pretty quick.

I do my suspension fluids every 30 hours, I put together my own nitrogen filling kit the average person doesn't need a fancy filler tool I purchased one and found that with a good regulator it's not needed you can set the pressure on the regulator and use a regular chuck or no loss chuck if your worried. Or get a regulator for 40 bucks on Amazon an HVAC hose 25ish no loss chuck with gauge 80ish ebay and then find a tank of your choice. My local shop wanted 40 dollars to fill a shock with nitrogen I think it's worth investing in a nitrogen setup and proper tools i also do all my friends suspension. It's worth looking into for sure. If you can do a 2 stroke top end you can do fork seals and rebuild a shock it's really easy once you do it I can rebuild my rear shock in under an hour start to finish.

@forreststrong797

4 жыл бұрын

I repurposed a tank I had laying around and exchanged it for a nitrogen tank so if you have any tanks laying around bring it to your local welding supply store and see if you can exchange it for a nitrogen tank it cost me 13 bucks. Nitrogen is cheap! Now that I have nitrogen I can fill my tires or do whatever I want with it.

@A1soldiersaint

4 жыл бұрын

​@@forreststrong797 DUDE!! Thanks for the info. Do you need any nitrogen for the forks (i.e. closed cartridge KYB)? I am planning to use Race tech shim stack and gold valve but even their do-it-yourself kits are kinda pricey and for a bit more you can just pay someone else to do it so... Any suggestions on valving and parts sources?

@MichaelAbramo

4 жыл бұрын

@@A1soldiersaint No nitrogen for KYB forks. Only the shock.

Very useful 🔥

I need to do this just hit 75hrs 😅

Do a blooper real that was great hahahaha

mine in now being done strange timing on the video , but 45 hours i do mine

Hello good i like to ask regarding on oil bleeder where can i buy that tool

Hello, what is the name of the suspension grease?

Yea I bought wieseco pistons, had a guy replace them, years later I mean years later I go to take it apart and found stock pistons in my bike. Not the ones I bought. Not the ones I asked bro to put in. He took them, pocketed them and his shop has been gone since . I hate letting people work on my stuff trust matters a lot

@luket1017

27 күн бұрын

Damn that sucks worst thing is not really being able to do anything about it since it’s been so long and he’s gone. If tools were cheaper and I had more time I would just do all this stuff my self. Unfortunately it’s way more practical for me to take my bike to a shop for the more extensive maintenance. I agree though it’s hard to find a shop you can really trust.

5:11 HAHAHA!

Looks like you ended up wearing a little of that shock fluid..😂

@DirtBikeChannel

4 жыл бұрын

Me and my camera rig. Never been so happy to have a UV filter on a $2400 lens in my life!

@utdesertghost199

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtBikeChannel Haha, for sure. I'm just learning how expensive some of that equipment is with my son and his new photography business.

@kevinegbert1251

4 жыл бұрын

That was my bad! We were super bummed because we didn’t think the camera was rolling when he got sprayed. If you think the camera got it bad you should’ve seen his khakis! 😂

@utdesertghost199

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinegbert1251 Im glad it made it in video, it was a cool shot. It was funny because I could see it coming..At least you didn't tip the drain pan on yourself like I did with two forks worth of fluid. I hit a whole new level of clumsy and stupid lol 🤣.

Is there a difference in maintenance between an open cartridge and close cartridge fork?

@tomthebattleaxe

4 жыл бұрын

Erik Krantz yes, closed chambers require a separate step of bleeding and setting the oil in the inner chamber

KNIPEX for life!

@kevinegbert1251

4 жыл бұрын

Aaron Grutzmacher #notachannellock Knipex is one of my favorite tools for sure!

Ya you get them people that just are BS, Hey i work on my own stuff....People dont even grease their Ujoints...Crazy to me...lol

Kevin is a good guy! check him out.

Did you really say to take your shocks apart for inspection every 30-40 hours of riding???

At 7:11 someone needs a new smoke detector battery

Me thinking it’s been 25 years since the forks have been oiled which was from stock

I got 3 bikes that all need the forks gone thru

@MotoFamMayhem

4 жыл бұрын

It will certainly be cheaper to get all the specialized tools needed than taking in 3 sets of suspension to have serviced. Get the tools and get your hands dirty 👊😎

@camaronclark9738

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Ben, Camaron here with the MotoXperts. We would be more than happy to run through and service your those forks for you. Feel free to call anytime with questions (801) 318-6213

shim stacks accumulate dirt? news to me

@kevinegbert1251

4 жыл бұрын

Nick Bryan it should come as no surprise that dust, dirt, moisture finds its way into the the forks via fork seals and button bleeders (when used). In these open chamber forks, all that sediment finds its way down into the base valve assembly at the very bottom of the forks. Gets into the shims and ports of the piston and affects your damping.

Damn... my suspension never got serviced xD

@kevinegbert1251

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Groß never too late 😉

Beta race next video?

That dude sure is low key. Wake up man!

I appreciate all the videos but 30hrs is like 5 rides - me personally im not servicing my suspension this frequent that's crazy - ill go 80ish hrs never had an issue - maybe I'm a Neanderthal.

30 hours? LOL just changed after 400 hours cause of leaking.

Need a new PIPE...(clown n here GREAT CHANNEL THANKS !)

Absolutely not doing that.