Diocletian and the Politics of the Tetrarchy Ft. Dr Byron Waldron

A discussion with Dr B. Waldron about the subject of his new book 'Dynastic Politics in the Age of Diocletian, AD 284-311'.
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  • @EasternRomanHistory
    @EasternRomanHistory Жыл бұрын

    Extra! Extra! Read All About It! If you would like to buy a copy of Dr Waldron's book, 'Dynastic Politics in the Age of Diocletian, AD 284-311' then you can do so by following this link: edinburghuniversitypress.com/book-dynastic-politics-in-the-age-of-diocletian-ad-284-311.html You can use the Discount Code NEW30 to get 30% off.

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that Diocletian retired like Sulla is in its own right a vindication of the success of the Tetrarchy! Well done!

  • @danielchequer5842

    @danielchequer5842

    Жыл бұрын

    Diocletian is more like a Cincinatus type of guy

  • @Kyle_Schaff

    @Kyle_Schaff

    Жыл бұрын

    A joke, right?

  • @rfkwouldvebeenaok1008

    @rfkwouldvebeenaok1008

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it was more of a nod to the statesman cincinnatus. I believe Sulla did that to try and look like cincinnatus as an attempt to mend his legacy after decades of blatant disregard for the law, and mass purges of people who didn't agree with him. Sulla was nothing more than a power hungry violent narcissist. I don't think he should ever be confused with the humble and virtuous statesman cincinnatus.

  • @rkitchen1967

    @rkitchen1967

    Жыл бұрын

    He lived to regret it.

  • @geordiejones5618

    @geordiejones5618

    Жыл бұрын

    It literally fell apart the moment he stepped down. He set it up to last beyond his lifetime and before he was i n the ground his successors had started killing each other.

  • @danielchequer5842
    @danielchequer5842 Жыл бұрын

    This was great. It's refreshing to have a good academical historian to provide interesting insights on topics that mere enthusiasts like us don't discuss so deeply

  • @kennethknoppik5408
    @kennethknoppik5408 Жыл бұрын

    You mentioned diocletian's Palace in split Croatia. Fun fact they used that as the city of merrine in game of thrones. Emelia Clarke filmed a bunch of scenes there.

  • @EasternRomanHistory

    @EasternRomanHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    It was indeed, just goes to show that the legacy of the Tetrarchy can still be seen and felt to day.

  • @Anatolius1010
    @Anatolius1010 Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for

  • @annjoyce579
    @annjoyce579Ай бұрын

    True, Diocletian started off poorly by price fixing, which resulted in black markets. Diocletian stopped price fixing and focused, successfully, upon tax collection, which worked well.

  • @robertfranklin422
    @robertfranklin422 Жыл бұрын

    Ooh I'm very excited for this!

  • @Fenniks-
    @Fenniks- Жыл бұрын

    I have his book: "Dynastic politics in the age of Diocletian, AD 284-311" it's really good.

  • @Kyle_Schaff

    @Kyle_Schaff

    Жыл бұрын

    Shit, it’s $80+ :(

  • @byronwaldron7933

    @byronwaldron7933

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kyle_Schaff Yeah, unfortunately academic publishing companies charge way too much for the average book buyer. They rely more on university libraries than on individuals buyers to sustain them.

  • @byronwaldron7933

    @byronwaldron7933

    Жыл бұрын

    I keep trying to provide a discount code, but KZread keeps deleting it.

  • @byronwaldron7933

    @byronwaldron7933

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kyle_Schaff NEW30

  • @byronwaldron7933

    @byronwaldron7933

    Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully it's still valid.

  • @johnmars5282
    @johnmars5282 Жыл бұрын

    fascinating subject, I would wager that the politics of the tetrarchy shaped western dynastic politics for the next 1000 years of european history.

  • @EasternRomanHistory

    @EasternRomanHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    Ironically, I think the main legacy of the tetrarchs for the Mediecal era was their persecution of Christianity and being modelled as the arch persecutors along with Nero.

  • @byronwaldron7933

    @byronwaldron7933

    Жыл бұрын

    Their administrative reforms (which were built upon by Constantine) would be preserved in some form or another until the seventh century, so there's that.

  • @MrAwrsomeness
    @MrAwrsomeness Жыл бұрын

    Highly based

  • @KaiLindsay2001
    @KaiLindsay2001 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic vid thoroughly enjoyable

  • @KreigWes
    @KreigWes Жыл бұрын

    My random recommendation never seem to disappoint, great video!

  • @EasternRomanHistory

    @EasternRomanHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    I am glad you liked it.

  • @charleswilson4526
    @charleswilson4526 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great video, thank you! I am very curious about the personalities involved. If you walked into a room with all of these guys in there, there would be a lot of “personality” to say the least. The tetrarchy was group of jerks that dwindled down to the most ruthless of the jerks to put it bluntly.. So I guess my question would be how did the personalities of the tetrarchs influence the course of the system? Could these guys get along or was it always small alliances?

  • @fabioaguilarmontiel5247
    @fabioaguilarmontiel5247 Жыл бұрын

    Will you be reviewing the new Netflix series based on the battle of manzikert?

  • @annjoyce579
    @annjoyce579Ай бұрын

    One famous historical document is by daughter 1 of 3 of Diocletian after he retired to Split, Croatia, he became a Christian. She apologized on his behalf. Notice 12 year roman prisoner queen of syria zenobia ptolemy-epiphanes and Diocletian same time. She converted to Christianity. Historic letter details Diocletian suddenly a Christian and retires. Wife #2 zenobia? History omits her end.

  • @bombombarabom3794

    @bombombarabom3794

    Ай бұрын

    Whats the source?

  • @jamesbay115
    @jamesbay115 Жыл бұрын

    Any comments on the news about Sponsian?

  • @byronwaldron7933

    @byronwaldron7933

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm yet to develop a strong opinion on whether the coins are authentic or not. I see that it has sparked a lot of debate online among numismatists, and I'm yet to fully delve into what everyone is saying in response. But if Sponsian did indeed exist, it adds to what we know of the last decades of the Roman province of Dacia, whose garrison had been halved by Gallienus' reign and whose administrative and military presence was abandoned during that of Aurelian. It reflects a province in crises, facing Gothic, Vandal and perhaps especially Carpic raids.

  • @TonyqTNT
    @TonyqTNT Жыл бұрын

    Wasn't the 4 areas ruled by co emperors as well???

  • @EasternRomanHistory

    @EasternRomanHistory

    Жыл бұрын

    Until 293 only Diocletian and Maximian ruled the empire, in 293 Constantius and Galerius became Caesars and ruled their own domains.

  • @causantinthescot
    @causantinthescot Жыл бұрын

    S*nators like @tap: dIoClEtIaN wAs fAkInG aWeFuL~ Chad Daniel and Bryon: No.

  • @MrAwrsomeness

    @MrAwrsomeness

    Жыл бұрын

    Cucknate fell off hard

  • @cleavlandmingins1861
    @cleavlandmingins1861 Жыл бұрын

    This made me smile! Thanks for sharing!!! Do not waste your time = P r o m o s m.