DiMaggio and Mantle: A Feud That Never Thawed
Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle were two of the greatest athletes of the 20th century and Rally has a lot of objects from and about them in the collection. Though DiMaggio reluctantly passed the Yankees torch to Mantle after the 1951 season, their relationship would remain volatile for the rest of their lives.
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Mantle was a great team mate, 12 players that played with him named their sons after him..from1951 through 1964 nobody was ever better!
@user-me8qj6zk8n
8 күн бұрын
Good 🥧 piece
Met Yogi twice. One of the most important, inspirational and kind people I ever met. I brought his dog home to him in 1977 and again he remembered me in 1980, he said he loved that dog!
I did not know of the animosity between these two greats, but Mickey Mantle was a hero to me as a kid, and I'm a White Sox fan. I had read that he played football in high school and injured his leg and almost lost it, but overcame it and went on to be a great Yankee baseball player. He was an inspiration to me!
@jayclarke9611
8 ай бұрын
There wasn't any animosity.. Just not buddies.. Mick was 19, Dimaggio 36 and Mick was in awe.. Could have Joe D reached out? Yeah he could but it wasn't his way. Never was... Led by example. . Mick knew that's how rookies were treated back in those days . Scooter was brutal on rookies especially if he felt they might take his job. Playing for the Yankees was a pri iledge of the highest. Order
@user-td4zp4gq2p
Ай бұрын
Mickeys injury that kept him out of the Korean war was sustained playing basketball.
Joe's seeming perfection ironically revealed him to be cruely imperfect.
That’s a pretty cold line by Joe at the end there
This is great! I learned many new things!
@jayclarke5466
Жыл бұрын
You ve learned many new things and some of them aren’t factual.Good for you!
I met Joe D. He was an absolute gentleman. How could he not be a team player when he led his team to the WS 10 times and won 9 of them in only 13 seasons? Mick could have been the best ever if he laid off the juice.
@kevmac1230
9 ай бұрын
He had a hell of a lineup around him though.
@jayclarke9611
9 ай бұрын
Mantle s teams had amazing pitching and he played w Berra, Bauer, McDougal, Rizzuto, Mize, Howard, Maris, Boyer, Skowron... Maybe not as gaudy as 36-43 Yankees but pretty damn good
@martincrossed4562
9 ай бұрын
DiMaggio was the leader of that team by example and everyone on the team knew it. Someone asked him once why he always played so hard he said "because there may be someone out there that has never seen him play before."@@kevmac1230
@GeorgeYoung-uh5by
8 ай бұрын
But in those days they had the best team that's why he won all those titles. Now he would win none because there are lots More teams. And Yankees are not the best anymore. 1 player does not win. The team wins
@jayclarke9611
8 ай бұрын
When ur by FAR the Best player on a great team(save 36 n 37) You get all the spoils. Dimaggio was a better ballplayer at BASEBALL than my beloved Mick Mick was physically more gifted, Joe D the better player.
Loved the conversational tone of this video. I didn't know the behind the scenes as I'm not a Yankee fan. But as a baseball history fan, this still came as news to me. Nice video! 😃 Looking forward to more content from this channel.👍
@rally
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
Why blame DiMaggio for Mantle’s injury? I blame the Yankees. Too cheap to get their field into playing condition. Any outfielder, home team or visitor, could have been injured. It was an accident waiting to happen.
@user-yu6mn5jq6h
11 күн бұрын
as the story goes he or the mob paid a grounds keeper to leave the drain cover off because joe was so jealous of mickey and the mob did not want their boy looking bad
In the end, we learned that Mickey was 1,000 times the human being of DiMaggio. Ironic that DiMaggio was part of that era that thought that class was just your persona on television. Mantle was more accepting of Black teammates. DiMaggio's issues with women are pretty famous. Mantle never was divorced. More than anything, Mantle had the one thing that unites all great people. He knew he wasn't perfect, and never seemed to judge anyone. By the numbers, and in class, he was far superior to DiMaggio.
@UFOsAreRealArea51
4 ай бұрын
It's because DiMaggio is Italian and most Italians are racists. They think that they are better than black people. If they are better, then how is it that Black people were the oldest and 1st race on Earth? Put that in your Italian dish and eat it Dimaggio. 💯💯😤😡😆🤣😭
@gracedagostino5231
3 ай бұрын
Lol, Mickey Mantle was a mean nasty bigoted drunk, and to his credit admitted it when he got religion later in life. Joe DiMaggio had his faults, but he was a soft-spoken quiet guy, that was kind to most people he met. As a player Mantle couldn't carry Joe's jock strap, and mantle knew it. Mick struck out over 2,000 times and killed more rallies than any player in history. Mick had a 1 HR to 4 SO ratio, Joe who only struck out 350 times had a HR to SO ratio of 1 to 1. Joe also lost 3 prime playing years serving in the military in WW2. Joe was a veteran where Mantle never saw military service.
@neilm2794
2 ай бұрын
DiMaggio was a far better player than Mantle. You know nothing about either man to be able to judge their character
@bluechip6576
2 ай бұрын
Bullshit. Mantle was an asshole.
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
@@neilm2794 Neil’s is on point. I was a huge fan of the Mick, but Joe was better … and classier
Met Joe D on three occasions always respectful and a gentleman to me . .
Here's one.... in 1969, the first Old Timer's Day Mickey was introduced at following his retirement, he was brought out last, to thunderous ovation, after Joe D's introduction. This infuriated The Yankee Clipper, who swore he would never attend another one. The next year, when DiMaggio was introduced, PA announcer Frank Messer said, somewhat cryptically "For obvious reasons, we save this introduction for last...",and went on to heap tons of praise on him.
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
And rightly so…respect for elders
@Sirharryflash82
8 сағат бұрын
@@jayclarke5466More likely building up a fragile ego.
As a life long Yankees fan, I know that The Mick, was my childhood Hero. Screw dimaggio. I missed his act anyway Greatest living Yankee my ass.
Awesome Stuff.
@rally
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
Both of them were before my time. Mantle was still playing when I started following the game as a kid but he was old and past his prime. I do know Denny McClain, another notorious bad boy and one of my favorite players for a time, grooved a pitch for Mickey so he could hit one out at Tiger Stadium one final time before he retired. That's respect. Mickey admitted his faults, not sure DiMaggio was ever as forthright as that. But Mickey did waste a lot of his talent, and that's too bad. Oh well, Al Kaline was my hero so I don't really have a dog in this hunt. A great truly humble player who never got on anyone's bad side. Interesting video.
I suppose Carl Yastrzemski lucked out by debuting just after Ted Williams retired. At the start of his career Joe DiMaggio had 3 years of overlap with Lou Gehrig. We can assume their relationship was amiable because if there had been any animosity we would have heard about it.
@jayclarke9611
9 ай бұрын
Dimaggio missed 3 years in his very prime(28-31).
@jayclarke9611
8 ай бұрын
That s an interesting question, How Gehrig treated him . Joe D hit like. 329 w like 30 Hrs and 100 plus RBIs so I'm sure Gehrig loved having him... That was a very deep team 36-39 Arguably the greatest Yankee dynasty
@king_supreme1102
8 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611that is actually interesting. I know the 2 overlapped a little bit, but I never really stopped to think that they were both playing great at the same time (for short time). Because you always think of Ruth and Gehrig together, and then DiMaggio leading the way for the next generation. But no, him and Gehrig were definitely a dynamic duo for a short time. How interesting.
@jayclarke9611
8 ай бұрын
@@king_supreme1102 Yes, Dimaggio s first year he had a wonderful rookie season, but Gehrig was League MVP w #s like Mantles '56 Season w slash line.354avg,49 Hr, 130 RBIs which is almost identical to the Micks greatest season in 56. 2nd Year together Dimag had his best statistical season as a Yankee w .346avg .46 HR 164 Rbi s!...Gehrig still hit over .350 and had over 150 RBI but his HR toTAL LOWERED TO 37...i mean after Ruth n Gehrig , that s the best 1-2 combo this side of Manny and Papi
@king_supreme1102
8 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 I was looking at those stats last night. It’s like DiMaggio came in and replaced Babe’s production (kind of).
If Joe had called for the ball when he should have, Mickey would have played his entire career on two good legs.
@jimboscooter432
Жыл бұрын
He was still the best switch hitter of all time
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
Did u see the play? THen how do u know when he called hm off...Maybe if Yankees had safer drainage system Mantle would have been alil less injured,,,a lil CF er us the captain of the outfield. Period.
@jayclarke5466
10 ай бұрын
@@jimboscooter432 Eddie right there w him
@martincrossed4562
7 ай бұрын
Booze destroyed Mantle he could have been the greatest ever.
This is cool!
@rally
Жыл бұрын
Thanks much!
@jayclarke9611
2 ай бұрын
Video s vool... Narrator s an ass
However u try to portray Dimag s personality, you couldn’t be more wrong about Dimag not being a team player.Yogi Scooter Gordon Heinrich Dickey all stated Dimag was the epic leader of Yanks…leader who went 9-1 in WS, like Jeter he led by his playing example. ‘I never saw him make a Mistake on the field’- Yogi Berra. You’ all couldn’t be more wrong, Mantle said it best..’ if you re go to give me a plaque, Joe s gotta have one hanging a lil higher than mine”
@JackCallSports
Жыл бұрын
He may have been a team player but he was an absolute scumbag
@jayclarke5466
Жыл бұрын
@@JackCallSports based upon what? Whose to say u aren’t one yourself
@JackCallSports
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke5466 read the book by Richard Ben Cramer Joe DiMaggio A Hero’s Life Tells you all you need to know
@JackCallSports
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke5466 I might be one to other people but I’m honest about it Joe thought being the center fielder of the New York Yankees was more important in life
@jayclarke5466
10 ай бұрын
@@JackCallSports try reading Joe DiMaggio the Long Vigil: by Joe Charyn and realize Mr Kramer s conclusion can be somewhat faulty.
Dimag and Mantle never had volatile' relationship. They just weren't buddies. Different generational players.
@jayclarke9611
9 ай бұрын
@@NUNYABIZNNAAAZZZ English translation?
@ChrisP-in8qr
6 ай бұрын
100% correct, and Joe was a classy fellow. He always thought you should have your hair combed and always in a suit and tie. I dont think Mantle echoed those same traits and thats okay. both we're great men
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
@@ChrisP-in8qr Id have to agree with you here, but Mantle looked the part, especially in the 50's(well groomed, suit n tie etc)
@babydrippa
2 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611It's not what's on u, it's what's in u. Mick's bum leg and personal belief in "the Mantle curse" led him to jump head first into alcohol; no suit & tie can fix that.
hje requested the number 7 when he came back up dude
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
I think the Yanks wanted him to be off of#6 to lower the pressure of 3,4,5,...
@jayclarke5466
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 Mantle had nothing to do w it.Facts
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke5466 I agree
Paul Simon famously said he only used Joe DiMaggio's name in the song because the syllables fit best LOL Ol' Joey was never the same after Marilyn stepped out. Hurt his ego badly. Insecurity and ego are a poison.
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
Met Joe D at a bus show in Chicago Couldn't have been nicer.. A gentleman Mickey was more 'one of the guys' Doesn't mKe him better Joe D was clearly the more productive player in every way save OBP Loved the Mick but like Mick said in 69 'if your e gonna give me n Joe a plaque, Joe s gotta hang a lil higher...'
@laryjohnson5736
7 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 How many home runs did your dad hit jr?
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
@@laryjohnson5736 Hey Lary, what did u do w the missing R? Mantle hit more HR s than Gehrig too, Mick the better player??
@laryjohnson5736
6 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 Very good question but they played different positions stupid. What did you do stupid to miss that? Mickey didn't bat next to the Babe either.
@laryjohnson5736
6 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 You have to be a little kid to compare players who played different positions in different eras.
Just because Mickey liked to drink that's no reason to label him a troublemaker, he was not. About the play, it's common practice for the centerfielder to be the only outfielder to call a ball, he calls it because he's sure he can get it then the other guy gives way. Likely Mickey made the call but Dimaggio kept coming anyway.
@syourke3
10 ай бұрын
No, Mantle didn’t call it. Joe did, at the last second. Here’s what happened : Prior to the game, Yankee manager Casey Stengel told Mantle, then playing right field, to take anything he could reach because DiMaggio simply couldn’t run anymore. (DiMaggio had suffered from bone spurs on his heel.) So when Mays hit the short fly ball toward right-center, Mantle sprinted after it intending to catch it, but DiMaggio came on and called him off at the last moment, causing Mantle to stop short, and his spikes got stuck in the open drain. This caused terrible injury to his knee from which he never fully recovered. Willie Mays said later that Di Maggio should have called for it earlier and caught the ball coming in instead of getting under it and then calling for it. Basically, Mantle was following Stengel’s pregame instructions. Joe should’ve called him off earlier.
@jayclarke9611
10 ай бұрын
Mantle wasn't a trouble maker, his teammates loved him and he was a great player, but he caroused and was for sure a philander and a drunk. He was also my hero when I was a lil boy
Mantle was the better ball player no question about it,im old enough saw both of them play
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
My Dad saw Gehrig Dimagg and Mantle on a regular basis...He said Mantle was not close...He saw Gehrig and Dimag up close '36-39 WS all home games via Paramount tix I loved Mantle so it hurt me to hear him assess him that way. But Mantle K'd so much and from 30's -60 s to K was an embarrassment
@user-yu6mn5jq6h
11 күн бұрын
me to
Thanks for the video! Maybe consider a pop screen for your mic.
@rally
Жыл бұрын
Are you in our minds? :) Thanks for reaching out and for watching through the poppy ps, too
To me, Mantle is the greatest ball player ever. If the knee injury never happens, I don’t think it’s even a question.
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
Mantle had many injuries, it’s who he was
"I don't really feel sorry for the guy. He did it to himself." These words show that while Joe DiMaggio was a great player and perhaps a nice, kind, inspirational gentleman in many ways, he could have used a little more understanding of human beings and a consequent increased measure of leniency. To put it in a nutshell, causality in human affairs is a complex phenomenon.
@MosDefnIT88
26 күн бұрын
It's wild that I can agree with what you said while also fully agreeing with DiMaggio's on point statement. He did do it to himself. So although it's a statement that's seemingly harsh, it's also the truth (one Mantle agreed with) and the truth doesn't take feelings into account. Even whem the truth lacks all the nuance that comes with life.
DiMaggio was a GREAT LEFT HANDED HITTER WITH A LOT OF FOLKLORE during his playing days, a mention by Paul Simon in song lyric ..... the man could play = HIT WELL in Base Hits and POSTED A MARK FOR HISTORY = 56 Games Hit Streak .... he ran like a gangling bird loping and bouncing without grace ..... he was still a hero ! Now for the BETTER ATHLETE and Very fast (until Joe D. & his ego cut Mick off catching a ball destroying Mantle's knee on hooking foot on sprinkler head stud ....... ... Mickey was Great in running down fly balls, throwing our a try for a double, good glove, phenomenal strength, power / high average FROM *BOTH sides of the plate ..... 565 feet long (still record longest Home Run) homer in Detroit, 536 Homers in a injury shortened career & 18 World Series Home Runs ( still M.L.B. RECORD) Played hurt most of his career, always in pain since his first year in MAJORS ..... and loved by his teammates beyond all others. DiMaggio was an ego maniac and always resented Mantle .... his causing Mantle's injury that denied him an even better career NEVER ADMITTED by the arrogant DiMaggio ...... Ted Williams was better than Joe D. .... that was a sore point for Joe as well. I have been a N.Y.Y. fan for 68 years .... saw them both play ..... Sad that it was not how it turned out .... wickedness and envy is poor excuse for honor. jj
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
Except Joe was a RIGHT handed hitter who missed 3 seasons(the war) and if he had those and was Left handed…he would have 500 Hrs with ease…and Dimagg as a big an ego maniac u…he was a quiet proud man that tried to protect his image. What was Mick s image? A carousing , unfaithful drunk
I knew Mickey and he was humble and fun. DiMaggio maybe not so much.
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
I had a Friend who s Dad owned the Flying Dutchman steak House in the BX near YS where all the players went after games for a great steak. My friend was VERY close w Bill Dickey, Henrich,Mel Allen and many Yanks and Giants players. She said Dimag wanted a table in the back , and wanted a quiet peaceful meal He ate w a friend or a fellow Yankee. She said he was ALWAYS pleasant, well mannered and tipped well As Ive mentioned before, I met him at McCormick Place in Chitown in the 70's at a Business shoe...he was Mr Coffee. Absolutely Bludgeoned by fans well wishing, autograph hunting etc...He was charming and gracious. I understand public life and private life can be reciprocal, but that s what I saw.
DiMaggio was very vain and self-centered, not a team player, not friendly, not popular with his teammates. He was very uptight, arrogant and lonely. Sure he resented Mantle, he didn’t speak to him throughout the entire season in 1951 although his locker was right next to Mickey’s.
@tubaman7205
Жыл бұрын
Truth! I resent DiMaggio to this day for the reasons you stated so well.
@syourke3
Жыл бұрын
@@tubaman7205 If he wasn’t so vain, he would’ve called Mantle off earlier and Mantle wouldn’t have sustained that terrible knee injury in the ‘51 WS that impacted his entire career. You know what I mean?
@tubaman7205
Жыл бұрын
Exactly right!
@JGLeber
Жыл бұрын
Yep, Not a team player. Mickey tried his best and Won Triple Crown Twice and did play with pain all his career.Sae him play in late fifties at old Griffith stadium and even RFK towards his last years.I am sure his pain caused drinking problems but Don't forget teammates like Billy Martin and Hank Bauer introduced him to their bad lifestyle as a young man . Had Mickey been on a team like Boston for example he may have been around people like Williams who would have helped him.N.Y. was not good for his career but he did set records like most HRs in World series. Rest in Peace Mickey.
@syourke3
Жыл бұрын
@@JGLeber correction. He won the Triple Crown only once. In 1956.
DiMaggio was married to another actress prior to Monroe. He was chasing the same thing as Mantle, but on the down-low. Joe wasn't a saint and his WWII record isn't anything to be proud of.
@jayclarke5466
Жыл бұрын
Dimag s record in WWii was controlled by USAS…he wanted to be in the war…they wouldn’t let him..see Joe Louis…
Kind of.. Not quite Babe s production, but 36-39team was loaded offensively.. So Joe D didn't need to be Ruth.. He was pretty spectacular.
Every player on the Yankees always made things tough on every rookie and particularly ones as highly touted as Mantle. His knees are not what happened to his career the drinking and getting absolutely tanked 7 days per week did. He could have been the greatest that ever played.
@user-sz2ri2yb3p
9 ай бұрын
He started drinking away the pain. Ended up a habit
@TheBatugan77
9 ай бұрын
Stop it with your LIES!
My hero was Bobby Murcer. When I asked for his autograph he told me to get lost.. Maybe he was having a bad day? No hard feeling on my part
@TheBatugan77
2 ай бұрын
I talked to Bobby about that. He said you were a potty mouth.
I saw years ago on TV Mantle's wife said that in his rookie season DiMaggio wasn't helpful to him.
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
And was Rizzuto, Berra, and other vets? No!…it was tough love …plus vets were trying to hold on to their careers
One hears of Joe Ds' class.His refusal to take young Mick under his wing is proof of the opposite.
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
Did Mantle take Murcer under his wing? Did he do it w Tresh? No...enough said
He was as great a mentor as he was a father. What a sick human being. Fantastic ballplayer, toxic guy.
@nicholasschroeder3678
Жыл бұрын
To be fair to Mantle, he freely acknowledged his failures later in life, and sincerely I think. If you read Ball Four, you get a good taste of the toxic culture they lived in. The Mick was pretty much a very gifted, but kinda dumb jock, who had unlimited opportunities to party, drink, and screw around. I'm not sure I or many other men would have done that different. Basically, he was like a rock star.
@PabluchoViision
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasschroeder3678 I think you’re right about Mantle. And that few men given a blank check won’t go crazy and abuse it. Btw my bitter comment was about DiMag (and the bitterness is because I grew up worshipping him).
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
@@PabluchoViision u grew up in an age where press elevated stars, now U live in an age where they tear them. Down and Ur disappointed because I spite of their wealth and fame... Their still human
@PabluchoViision
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 I hear you, there’s truth in what you say, but only partially. The press has never torn down the figure of The Great DiMaggio, and it does not tear down certain sacred (money-generating) cows like LeBron James. Just the opposite, announcers are almost 100% silent when LeB screws up, doesn’t get back on D, etc. And if you look at the Orioles/Kevin Brown affair, ownership/league insistence on media cheerleading for team and stars is growing-in some ways a return to the old model.
@PabluchoViision
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 Oh, and I realize athletes are human… but some are more “human” than others, and DiMag was a piece of work. A real monster. Look at how he treated his son, and how the son ended up. Now-as a ballplayer he was beyond great, he was close to perfection.
Yankees! Sheesh!!
@user-ld9xw8ck2r
4 ай бұрын
Being a drunk wreak his careers and not.rehabimg just being a drunk
@user-ld9xw8ck2r
4 ай бұрын
Dimmago took mantle a side. And told him wat Lou gerik told him.act like a yankee.not a hill jack.but psy no mind lm adrunked hill jack
Mickey was an alcoholic, womanizer, just a party guy. Joe wasnt anything but clean cut. Joe was a different breed as was mantle, just two amazing talents who lived totally different lives
@jimmcmahon2603
Жыл бұрын
Joe beat up Marilyn Monroe, he was no angel
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmcmahon2603 Undocumented...hearsay. Mantle was a bum in much of his public life
@JackCallSports
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 read Joe DiMaggio The Hero’s Life by Richard Ben Cramer Don’t take this as changing your opinion with how you feel about Joe but he was an absolute douche The Billy Crystal story with Joe was really bad too Mickey may have been a bum after baseball but he warned people “hey man don’t be like me” He had so much pressure being the next great one and drank because he was scared that he would die young like his father and members of his family
@laryjohnson5736
7 ай бұрын
Tell us more about your daddy?
But Bob Sheppard's favorite was alway the Mick and that counts for something.
I read a lot of these comments about what YOU thought they were like, what they were thinking or anything personal about themselves. Only DiMaggio, Williams, and Mantel know for sure. Not the press nor the people know how they really were. All we really know is they were great baseball playets. So let them rest in peace once and for all.
Joe married Marilyn Monroe. Don't tell me he was squeaky clean.
It wasn't a feud. Joe was a shitbag to Mickey. Mickey did nothing to Joe.
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
Please list all the 'sh*tbag" things Joe did to Mick...they played together alil more than half of one season...I'll wait....
@TheBatugan77
2 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 Wait outside.
@jayclarke9611
2 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 U forgot your bib!
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
@@TheBatugan77 1, 2 …meet me outside, meet me outside
@TheBatugan77
21 күн бұрын
@@jayclarke5466 3,4...Shut up, shut up.
to bad joe bad joe d was so bitter
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
Joe D wasnt a bitter guy, he was quiet , reserved and old school proud. Mantle was more the partier, womanizer, drunk...but his teammates loved him , especially the ones who caroused w him. Mantle had exceptional G d given talent, but Joe was the better player...Sorry
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
Met him (Joe D)in 1976, a nice friendly bloke...maybe ur the bitter one...whats ur excuse?
Joe D was a great player but in my view he was a self center jerk. If Mickey would have taken care of himself he would have been much greater than the jerk.I personally think Mantle was better despite his injuries.
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
But instead Mantle was the jerk…and Joe stayed the better player.
I lost a lot of respect after hearing all that DiMaggio said
Mantle was twice the ball player Joe D was. Not even close!
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
Ahh…no! Joe was the leader of his Yanks era 9-1 in WS(Mick 7-5) Joe hit .325 lifetime, Mantle wasn’t even a .300 hitter Joe avg 140 RB I a season, far more productive Mantle acknowledged Joe was vastly superior CFer Mick had him beat w HR s and OBP…but Mick struck out over 1700 times, Joe 367!!! Joe DiMaggio missed over 3 seasons(2.5 w War, 1 w injury) ,Micks played more years but his career was basically over after 1964.
Publicly The Mick. Carried himself in the Yankee way, He wore suits everywhere and was polite in TV interviews. His teammates loved him cause he Was one of the guys... Dimaggio was more aloof.. Kinda like Jeter.. But in a much less publicized era. Whatever faults Joe had, Mick. More than matched him
If Mickey had Two Wheels, Mickey Would have set records unbelievable . DiMaggio Was from forties and thirties.He ignored Mickey Dom DiMaggio was outgoing and a good personality.But only Mickeys drinking woman chasing and of coarse his Bad legs hurt his career. He admitted it.Loved Mickeys courage. Screw Joes Lack of humanity!
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
Screw your closed minded subjective opinion.. There
@jayclarke5466
Жыл бұрын
Mantle would have been better…if Mantle took better care of himself…He s stated it many times. He s never mentioned ‘51 WS Dimag was the more complete and productive player…period…Mickey would agree…he s said as so much
@jayclarke9611
10 ай бұрын
Mantle might have had a fewmore incredible seasons, but he was never Joe w a Bat...and the Mick would be the first to tell ya that. If Joe D played for the Redsox and didnt lose 2.5 years w the war and in '49 injured...he'd have easily hit more HR s than Mantle. a Righty had a harder time hitting HR s in Orignal YS where Left Center was 457. If Judge played in THAT YS , he NEVER hits 62.
Mickey played his whole career after fifty-one either drunk or hung over! He mistreated his wife and kids! Small wonder someone like DiMaggio would dislike him. But if Joe had let Mantle catch that ball in the field, chances are Mickey would not have been drinking to handle the pain and effects of the accident! He had already had knee problems thanks to an accident when he was a kid!
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
So u blame the gun... Not the shooter Yanks placed a drain in a bad place and Mantle got hurt but U blame the CF who is the captain in the Of and calls all balls in air Cmon
@annettemalaski1967
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 Joe's own teammates blamed him. The ball was Mickey's to handle.
@georgesouthwick7000
Жыл бұрын
He did not have knee problems. Mickey was diagnosed with osteomyelitis of his lower leg due to a football injury at age 14. The infection was cleared up with antibiotics and he had 2 good legs when he came to the Yankees.
@annettemalaski1967
Жыл бұрын
@@georgesouthwick7000 Mickey himself declared that his knees were not a good as they should be!
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
@@annettemalaski1967 name the teammates who said it.. Never seen that
Dimaggio Didn't Attend Mantle's Funeral
@laryjohnson5736
7 ай бұрын
classy
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
@@laryjohnson5736 I didnt attend my Uncle s ...there are reasons.
@laryjohnson5736
6 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 because your mummy changed your diaper when it happened.
@jayclarke9611
6 ай бұрын
Which Dr did u pick for your labatomy?
@laryjohnson5736
6 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 Is that the best you can do little joy? What grade are you in? When you aren't lying for your grandpa; you try to be funny.
Ridiculous post. Always amazes me that someone could go back 70+ years and act like they knew what people were thinking back then, especially when everyone involved is dead. Two great ballplayers, that’s really all we know, and all we need to know. Want to add in flawed human beings? Gee , what a surprise. Who isn’t? They gave us a lot, let them rest in peace.
DiMiaggio was jealous of Mantle.
Mantle was *twice* the player Dimaggio was. Maybe 3X.
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
Not never not no how… Dimag a MUCH better hitter…and a far superior CF er. If Joe D had been LH…he would have hit 50+ Hr s a couple of times
So it is very hard to get 1 base hit for 60 something games in a row? That should not be hard at all. These mlb players are majorly slacking if this is the case. SMH
@LaMostraVia
2 ай бұрын
Can you do it?
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
Forget,about UFO.He s an idiot. Why , since 1941…only one person came even reasonably close…and that was the MLB lifetime hit leader
This really is a bad look for DiMaggio.
Mantle played as hard as anyone. The problem was that he partied hard too!
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Performed for over 150k in my. Life.. U?
Joe DiMaggio was an absolutely awful human being Read the book “Joe DiMaggio The Hero’s Life.” Tells you everything you need to know of how douchey he was
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
Not true
@JackCallSports
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 more than true bud lmfao
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
One take on it... I'd prefer to go by people I knew that knew Joe D.. I met Joe D as did my friends. Hitting a man when he s dead... Shameful DIMAG wasn't the model human specimen... Are U?
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
@@JackCallSports the Torah teaches us not to delve in gossip about another person that can't defend themselves Here s Rizzuto on Dimag 'There was an aura about him (Joe DiMaggio). He walked like no one else walked. He did things so easily. He was immaculate in everything he did. Kings of State wanted to meet him and be with him. He carried himself so well. He could fit in any place in the world.' Sorry bud...
@JackCallSports
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 fuck no I’m not a model human specimen But I’d rather be on my deathbed realizing I was a good friend, father, husband than I was the center fielder for the New York Yankees and everybody hates me
Imagine how many records mantle would have broken if he hadnt hurt his knee in that drainage ditch, when dimaggio refused to be callwd off a poo fly when the ball was clearly mantles to catch
This video Is toxic.. I can only assume the author if this vid has a silly vendetta against DIMAG... This is not a criminal.. He was our parents Gen... Maybe that's it.. Author hates the WWii Gen.
Dimaggio shouldnt have won the MVP in 1941
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
He (Joe D)was the Most Valuable Player even though Ted won Triple Crown....Yanks went all the way w Dimag have a great season ...Ted was the Best hitter...no doubt
@user-jd9zm4jf3t
Жыл бұрын
@@jayclarke9611 Correct
@nicholasschroeder3678
Жыл бұрын
Lucidrous giving it to DiMaggio. Williams had the far better season, even hit better during D's overhyped streak. He arguably had the best season ever
@user-jd9zm4jf3t
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasschroeder3678 Do you know what the most unbreakable record is? Dimaggio's streak? Bonds? NO!! Most consecutive No-Hitters. Vandermeer pitched TWO consecutive. If someone breaks the record they would have to TRIPLE the #3 mark for consecutive no hitters
@nicholasschroeder3678
Жыл бұрын
@@user-jd9zm4jf3t But it's a relatively meaningless record--kind of a stunt. Sure, only a very good hitter could do it, but a hit in each game doesn't necessarily impact the outcome of the game--a single here or there in a game can be meaningless. But I feel this way about all streaks in general, like the consecutive games one, for instance. What would it have really mattered had Gehrig or Ripkin sat out the rare game because they had the flu or had a funeral to attend. Most tellingly, Williams bated better than DiMaggio during his streak. Not by a lot, but still. I'm not a New Yorker or Yankee fan, so I don't really fall into the mystique. I wonder if it's a philosophical thing with me: I just think we're human and have off days here and there. I remember in grade school they used to give awards for perfect attendance. I always that it was lame: so they always showed up and did their same mediocre performance? I guess the teachers love it, and I suppose employers and managers also love having someone that reliable. Funny, I don't think I've been late or absent from work in several years. I think my boss likes my reliability a lot, but I just see it as my habit. A good one, I guess, but nothing to make a deal about. That's pretty much how I see hitting streaks: nice and all, and there's suspense in it for the fans, but not inherently all that significant. A guy who wins a game for the team at plate, then goes hitless the next, did a lot more for the team than the guy who got unproductive hits in both games.
Didn't know how to treat women. If Marilyn was here, she'd tell you
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
Yeah and Marilyn was such an upstanding reliable source…
Mantlfe drank but he still was a way better person then Joe was.
Joe dimmago said when mantle die joe I don't feel sorry him. He broth it on himself self🎉
@jayclarke5466
2 ай бұрын
Where is that quoted from? Never ever saw that quote
@imamisfit445
2 ай бұрын
@@jayclarke5466 I think Babe Rutt said that. 😅
DiMaggio was a great ball player but a total jerk. The "Mick" was better, IMO. Joe D. caused endless problems for mickey and Casey. What a whiner in his older age after Baseball!
Oo ko
He wreck mickey carer and never paid a bill
@jayclarke9611
Жыл бұрын
Type in English please
He was to vain joe.nevet talk team mates for 10 years
He always dislike Ted Williams got natting400ave.on 1941 because he want to.bay ,400
@jayclarke9611
9 ай бұрын
In French maybe?