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@100Servings

2 жыл бұрын

Currently at the end of DDS1 on my PS3. Can't wait to get into the second.

@Seb_No.13

2 жыл бұрын

There was a part of the game you didn't mention. Sometimes, when your solar noise reaches max, your characters may enter a berserk mode, where they can kill enemies instantly, but can be one shot themselves. May I know your opinions on it?

@vierco1005

2 жыл бұрын

I am working on remaster of these games

@100Servings

2 жыл бұрын

@@vierco1005 For Atlus or just privately?

@t_bone2145

10 ай бұрын

Idk what you’re talking about dds 2 is much harder than dds 1 imo

DDS2 is a massive improvment. I've always said that DDS2 feels like the actual story with DDS1 being a prequel.

@hoangthemanh4072

2 жыл бұрын

Someone said that the first minute of DDS2 have more info than the whole DDS1 combined lmao

@Fermin-hw5pd

2 жыл бұрын

@@hoangthemanh4072 They aren't wrong though

@hoangthemanh4072

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fermin-hw5pd I know, I already played both of them

@HercahyoAdiSaputro

2 жыл бұрын

True. DDS2 story is good that it is my top 3 megaten in term of story

@shawklan27

2 жыл бұрын

@@hoangthemanh4072 kinda wished I digged into the sequel first

This game needs to get a re-release where they give you both games straight up as a package deal. A very intriguing story, and an incredible music score.

@Fermin-hw5pd

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wouldn't say a remake because I love the (bad by now, for some people) graohics SMT ps2 games have, a remaster with the duology on the same game would be good, this game needs to be on shelves again

@yuukisama2001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fermin-hw5pd Yeah, I wouldn't touch it. But usually they do sometimes update it a bit. But I would leave it the way it is and make it a 2 for 1 deal on any of the platforms. Because the game does deserve a visit.

@sickrandy2946

Жыл бұрын

@@Fermin-hw5pd these games look incredible for the PS2. they wouldn't need much to look good in a remaster.

@maccamachine

11 ай бұрын

@@Fermin-hw5pdthe ps2 style shin megami graphics are still pretty great I like it

@mianlo2624

7 ай бұрын

They should Remake/Remaster it PS4, PS5, Xbone, XSX, Switch, & PC.

My reasons for loving this duology is more to do with how it portrays Hinduism and its concepts, such as Atman, Karma, the three worlds, and the concept of Brahman. I love this game because it highlights the parts of Hinduism I identify with, not the mythology itself, but the abstract and spiritual aspects of it.

Such a great story, I really like how they integrate the spiritual and religious themes in this one. Also this game makes me want to adopt a cat and name it Schrödinger

@jmarra07

2 жыл бұрын

So you can keep it in a box and theorize on whether it's dead or alive? That would be very neglectful of you. You should be ashamed.

@snailthelostcow63

Жыл бұрын

It's a pretty interesting take for SMT as well with how "ONE MORE GOD REJECTED" is engrained on the series

I feel the reason DDS2 isn't talk about as much is that half the time people talk about "DDS" they are talking about both games as a single whole.

@smergthedargon8974

6 ай бұрын

Very much agree - 1 is just incomplete without its sequel. It's not a 4 and 4A situation where you can just ignore 4A and enjoy 4 as a complete package.

@moister3727

3 ай бұрын

It sucks that both games have strengths and weakneses alike, both complement each other. DDS2 has boring long dungeons, DDS1 has interesting fun dungeons. DDS2 goes aabsolutely hogwild deep into the story, DDS just goes forward. And I could go on forever. Sad it is so split.

Wow it’s crazy that you are already reviewing this, only one week after the DDS1 video, so dope!

@Terranigma23

2 жыл бұрын

The DSS1 video was not 1 year ago ? 😅

@Fermin-hw5pd

2 жыл бұрын

@@Terranigma23 R wOoOsH

I just like that the game has the balls to remove characters from your party in favor of the plot, you never see dying main characters in other rpgs so frequently

@snailthelostcow63

6 ай бұрын

This is like if the team didn't stop Kitase to kill more than just Aerith in FF7 lol

I didn't care for DDS1 too much for a story, but MAN. I utterly adore DDS2 so much, I finished it like a few months ago. I don't think you need an awfully in-depth understanding of Hinduism to appreciate the story of DDS2 though personally speaking, because I think there's a constant and compelling theme of atonement/redemption and beauty amongst tragedy that REALLY works to hit on the thinking level. I think Roland, Heat, and Serph all are great examples of the major theme of atonement since each character in some way atones for the failures of their past, you already stated Roland's stuff in your video BUT... I think the entire arc of Heat creating complications in the group, "killing" Serph, and his death, and the possibility of him working with the group during the last Dungeon does a great job of giving Heat an underlying arc of atoning for the sins he committed against the group throughout the main plot of the game. Juxtapose that against Serph and how his character throughout DDS2 cleans up the mess that his previous life imposed on the world around him, and Serph coming to confront who he once was and learning to move forwards and embracing the person he become and the way he has atoned for his personal struggles he has inflicted on Sera with a refined sense of compassion rather than envy, serving as her support system through the rest of the game as things get rather dire. I think all 3 characters do a great job of showing how we can grow as people and atone for our mistakes. I think again this blends well with how the overarching story deals with how the characters manage to deal with tragedy by presenting beauty and hope. Argillia manages to get over her personal biases over Roland and how he used them and sacrifices her life alongside Roland as an act of compassion and humanity, Gale's death is a beautiful moment of raw compassion as he gives Angel partial forgiveness for her crimes while giving her compassion and warmth even if she strayed far from what David wanted. Cielo goes out of his way sacrificing his life for the comrades that he cared for and the bonds they help. Then there's Sera taking the mantle of trying to save the world around her even though everyone she knows, and loves keeps dying, having an unyielding want to mend the wounds that she inflicted against her will due to OG Serph, with her and Serph sacrificing their lives so humanity can have another chance to embrace their life. Their tragedy ultimately creates hope and they're able to fight back and give humanity a second chance at life, a possibility to atone for the failings of what preceding them. I think these two major overarching themes are utterly fantastic in this context. I think an understanding of Hinduism does give more appreciation to the major theme of atonement, buttttt as someone who really doesn't have much interest in the topic and only took a vague reading into it just so I could like the ending more, BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT I think there is a lot of thematic meat asides from that which makes the story incredibly engaging to think about. I also just think the ways the characters are handled also makes the emotional aspect of DDS2 hit even if at first you're taking out of the game by the ending, like I was originally.

@toooydoeur

Жыл бұрын

1>2

I've always held DDS 2 in such high regard ever since I played it upon its release. Watching your (incredibly well-made) video reminded me exactly why. This level of story-telling and strong plot is rarely seen in gaming or media in general, no wonder why it left such an imprint on my psyche.

DDS1 and 2 together make up my favorite gaming experience of all time. These games mean so much to me, and I can’t thank you enough for putting into words the way 2 handles it’s characters and themes so beautifully. Very glad this video exists, the work you put into really shows!

For PS2 the cinematography is excellent. I understand it was mostly a stylistic and cost effective choice to omit it in games like P3 an 4, but after Nocturne I always missed this in the following Persona titles. (The comparison coming from chronology in the PS2 era, and the fact I like SMT Nocturne more in general.)

DDS2 is a game that the story really makes me happy and ends up making me want to cry because of the involvement I felt with the characters and the universe, I can say that I love this game

15:12 I actually suffered from the exact same thing in the first time I beated, but it was actually a bit worse. Mainly used Serph Gale and Argila in the beginning, then switched Gale to Roland, then after some time, BAM, Argilla's dead, and now I have to grind Gale into a acceptable level, then BAM, another character I was using dies too, so now I have to grind the OTHER underdeveloped character to an acceptable level again, and then BAM, the SAME THING happens for the third time

@ovensmuggler5207

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the exp share is pretty much obligatory if you don't want to suffer too much

@DragonKingX78

Жыл бұрын

It's one of the reasons I like the first one better...other reasons...I don't like your final demon form, that factory/jail dungeon, no null all ability(except a single karma ring), and a massive final dungeon you can't leave.

To this day, Digital Devil Saga 2 has some of the best bosses in the entire franchise, i had to make different save files before all of them since there wasn't a boss rush mode. My second favorite megaten game

@jojonta2119

2 жыл бұрын

What's the first

@rhinelladiptycha3513

2 жыл бұрын

@@jojonta2119 Nocturne, it's not only my favorite megaten game, it's my favorite game period. I can play it any day and i'll aways end the session with a smile on my face

@simonwilson2413

2 жыл бұрын

@@rhinelladiptycha3513 only issue I have with the bosses is that the final boss of the game is a bit easy.

Im still a firm believer that the DDS Duology is almost, if not the best SMT has ever been.

@DragonKingX78

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@backupschmliff1156

Жыл бұрын

No way lmao

@thatman5628

Жыл бұрын

i agree

@smergthedargon8974

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Of the SMT I've played, it's by far my favorite.

Ever since the first DDS video I have first of all been very consistently watching your content since I just started at first with the P4G video and the wait for this video was so worth it. Along the way I’ve discovered some really interesting games cause of this channel and I’m really happy with how it turned out and it turned out to be as interesting as I thought it would be. As for the next video anything sounds interesting to me but I guess another DMC video would be my pick since the first one I enjoyed a good bit

This game is special for me, because it was the first series i stumbled over after getting into SMT through Persona 4. Got DDS 2 for cheap while browsing games at a Gamestop, took it with me because it had the SMT subtitle. Here i am now years later, still loving the games and holding DDS2 in a special place in my heart.

@DragonKingX78

Жыл бұрын

Did you ever play the first DDS game?

Digital Devil Saga remains my favorite megaten game, outdoing even nocturne. Great, oldschool gameplay plus actual plot and characters. Match made in heaven. ANOTHA WOOOORLD!

One of my favorites! If you filled out the mantra grid in DDS 1 you could get an extra section in 2, fun fun game

Thank you for this! I didnt know if it was my own lazy googling or a real thing... but I was disappointed after DDS2 that I didnt find a lot of online posts or videos or discussions like I did with DDS1... so thanks for making this video! really excited to watch

Hopefully with Atlus' Soul Hacker 2 announcement this inspires them to rerelease their PS2 era games in a Legacy Collection of some sort. But DDS 3? NOPE! The story ended definitively with 2 but if they were to perhaps make a new game based on DDS' original script which was adapted into the Quantum Devil Saga novels that could perhaps work. But that's just wishful thinking on my end. Though the idea of a Devil Summoner Legacy collection sound pretty nice.

I just ended the first video and wondered where was the sequel, and then I got your discord notification. Talk about perfect timing.

The ending I think is beautiful it's very hopeful and the ost is sooo good

The DDS games are my fav games from the smt/persona series, glad to see them getting some much needed love. Great Vid

@DragonKingX78

Жыл бұрын

I agree, we need HD remasters, maybe a sequel as well.

"We're not playing games this time... DO YOU HEAR ME, SERPH?"

I have been so excited for this video and its finally here

Thanks to this video and this awesome creator, I’ve played both DDS games. These spin-offs are severely underrated.

strange journey and dmc2 are my picks for your next vids. thanks for this one

Thanks the analysis of DDS2. I really needed a review on it. Hopefully we get a review of the Devil Dummoner or the Majin Tensei series. Hopefully Devil Survivor gets on eventually

My memory of the story is very fuzzy but I remember the whole game was a massive improvement in story and gameplay pacing, I was stuck with Roland at the end thinking I made the wrong choice during the selection Serph vs Heat. Thanks for jogging my memory and clearing up the story. It's been about 15 years since I last played it.

Great video! The DDS games are my favorite non Persona 3 SMT games lol. Might have to give them a replay one of these days

Good video and commentary on my favorite smt games.

Wow awesome game and awesome video Nam

I don’t see this game getting enough love in the Megaten community, so this video is greatly appreciated. DDS2’s story gripped me harder than any other SMT/Persona game, mainly due to its characters. The revelation that Serph was a total piece of shit in the real world shocked me, and seeing how he deals with that knowledge going forward was one of my favorite parts of the game. Gameplay wise, it’s a huge improvement. To be honest I found this game a lot harder than the first for whatever reason, and I think that was because the party kept getting switched around. I liked this because it added a lot more weight to character deaths. Losing Argilla was really rough not only because I really liked her, but because she was my best healer.

This video was worth the wait. Its amazing through and through, although I've got 1 question; what song did you use in the outro?

Man, I remember grinding out my Mantra in the end-game area back in 2020 so I could have my perfect skill loadout for everyone before the final boss... At the time it felt like a drag, but looking back, I miss it. This kinda makes me want to replay it now. Great vid btw!

I have been waiting for this!

I enjoyed watching this video and it made me miss the DDS games. Based on my experience, I really enjoyed both games and I would have to agree that the second game was improved from the first. Sometimes I want to revisit these games, but the 1st one felt like it took forever just to beat it and get all the amazing skills. These games got a very proper closure and while I was vaguely familiar with the theme going on. I understood it for what it was and that it was a really cool idea. Wonderful music and amazing characters. It was a really fun experience for me.

Man i hope this duology will be remastered next for modern consoles and pc

I love both games, I hope both games get an HD remaster.

I feel like people don't talk about it as much for the simple reason is that I'd bet most just think of Digital Devil Saga as a singular game instead of separate ones given how direct of a sequel it is. 1 is incomplete without it.

15:00 damn that was one insane out of left field spoiler, was just looking about info on the optional content. FML

Man you ain’t wrong. I’ve always known about this game but never officially played it but I’ve been kicking myself for never having the chance to lol. Great video btw

It's wild that people didn't like this game's ending when it came out. I think it's really unique and well written, and perfectly encapsulates the theme of the duology. Playing through 1 again after beating 2 really makes alot of moments feel way more impactful too.

I played it, and I think it's safe to say that little of 1's story actually makes sense without it; 1 basically poses most of the questions, while 2 poses even more and does its best to answer them all.

There is one thing they never covered in DDS2 that kinda surprised me: the potential for someone to be born with an immunity to the stone virus. Someone like that could’ve not only threatened the Karma Society’s goals and giving them a new target/meal to hunt, but also could’ve had an unusual interaction with the Atma virus. I came up with a game idea based on that, the people who are born the with this immunity rebuild society though it does go the wrong way eventually. When some of the new generation of the DDS1 tribes get infected with the Atma virus, they find that the results are vastly different. For starters, no more needing to eat each other, some mantras are inaccessible to some people while others are not, and while they do seem weaker compared to the OG these new ones can evolve their Atma Avatars if they get strong enough. The Mac I created, Arc Seraphim, is a direct descendant of Serph and Sera (it may be impossible with how they ended DDS2, but please just go with it) and is the only one with the ability to use Hunt skills due to the dormant version of the virus in his DNA (he doesn’t eat people, he drains the mantra point from his foes like a vampire except way cooler) and can access all mantras!

@liamzakhaev

2 жыл бұрын

oc don't steal type of shit here

@snailthelostcow63

Жыл бұрын

Well that's just Atma virus without consequences. Hell, there's probably someone who's born with stone virus immunity but they're already devoured and didn't manage to join the resistance

@liamzakhaev

Жыл бұрын

@@snailthelostcow63 Op's comment has the inherent problem of breaking established in-universe rules by trying to create characters who are affected by a plot element in ways that don't fit with the universe they are in.

DDS 2 is such an improvement from the first game. Both in narrative and gameplay. It easily has some of the best bosses in the entire franchise and the duology as a whole sets a president on how a duology story should be done. Easily my 2nd favourite SMT game behind Nocturne with DDS 1 coming in third. As unlikely as it is to happen, im really hoping DDS gets a modern remaster so more people can experience this beauty of a duology

Another great review! DDS duology they really are something and still my fav game, and of course the soundtrack.... Oooh BANGER!!! Personally i like DDS soundtrack more compared to Nocturne. Thank You Shoji Meguro.

i love it when youtube when recommend a new channel

Damn and I JUST finished watching the DDS video earlier. Perfecto.

13:50 I actually don't recommend doing this because you get the Berserk Ring and the Human Form skill on new game plus Equipping the Berserk Ring essentially gives you a 100% run rate when you normally can't run away from anything on hard mode Human Form skill has a use against the Seth fight on new game plus

This two games are the only ones I have played from all SMT, loved them both

Great video! I'm really happy to see this game get the acknowledgement it deserves. While DDS2 isn't one of my personal favorite entries in the series, I've always found it to be such a shame how criminally overlooked it is, especially compared to the first game. The amount of customization options you have for building your party members in these games is great, I'm an absolute sucker for skill tree/grid systems in JRPGs

Still holding out hope this duology gets a modern remaster. It's been few years since I've played both so they'll feel almost new again.

DDS2 might be my fav SMT game next to Lucifer's Call (Nocturne in US).

Great video! Even if i have major gripes with DDS1, and because of those gripes i cannot recommend the series to friends, but it is such a shame though, exactly because of how great, imo, dds2 is!

Also, the main ost *ALIVE* is a banger ✌

I played it a couple months ago, and I loved it, but that music is just perfection.

I'm not the only who thinks this duology reminds me of Digimon frontier with The tamers becoming the digimon, right? btw I love both of these series.

Nuts just beat seth and realized how much I love these boss fights a lot of diversity with how you handle the fights.

BULL! I bought it as soon as I finished the 1st part. I would absolutely love a remaster with quality of life adjustments. Some things probably don't hold up real well but I LOVED the story. Definitely in my top 5

I never checked the numbers personally, but IIRC, hard mode makes you deal more damage when you hit an enemy weakness. As the game uses press turns, it's always really been about tipping the scale in your direction Hard mode is a bigger weight against you, but it lets you push down even harder on the scale relative to the additional weight and so might even be easier than normal mode if it means it lets you kill stuff that would get a chance to attack in normal mode. 50% more damage of 0 is still 0.

Hell yeah a new vid

This was a really good video. I feel like I could really appreciate what this game was going for thanks to you going over the mythological references and inspirations. It all sounds really interesting. As for the possible next video I'd personally love to see a KH2 next. It could even coincide with the series 20th anniversary coming up soon.

Can't wait for the combined remake Digital Devil Saga: Saga

Nam, what are thoughts about Raidou Kuzunoha series?

Damn, bro, you don't need to scream at us! Gave me a heart attack when the video started lol

Still holds up 'til this day.

Its still on my to play list after having finished the first one two motnh ago

I cried to this game for the first time, especially reaching the final dungeon, you know who that is.

I really should replay both of the digital devil saga games because i totally missed literally all the optional content in both games

I’m at the point where you know what happens, and I feel gutted going through the next dungeon….

Literally beat this game right as you uploaded it lol. Great game, ending is a little strange but overall really great games, DDS1&2 are must plays, especially for SMT fans. Inspired me to try Tokyo Mirage Sessions because I hear it’s got similar gameplay/mantra system and I’m a FE fan anyways.

@DragonKingX78

Жыл бұрын

Still my favorite SMT related games.

I fell into the trap of not using Cielo and Gale, and oh boy, was that a bitter pill to swallow. I had to try and level grind in the next dungeon with them being around lvl 14, and I think Serah was late 30s early 40s. It was almost a game ender for me, but I stuck with it and made it through. It was worth it.

Weird that it took KZread took a while to even give me anything of anyone talking about Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 in the first place. I came to be introduced to a games when a Game Stop employee gave told me that the game was weird, Good but weird during the PS3 era. I picked up the second game when I saw the ending of the first and *really* wanted to play more of it. And the second game did not disappoint me. But what's funny is that I now have a friend who saw the Sun dungeon part of the game and it stuck with her for years since then. So much so that she's like "I want to watch you stream this, because I want to know wtf caused you to be in the sun." It was the Second game that got my friend intrested, and in a way I hold both games precious to me due to that small bonding moment. Not just that but also the second game had probably the most harrowing Horror elements when you're really thinking about it (that damn chase scene scared the living shit out of me because I wasn't prepared to fight that dude *again*). While I loved the first game, that second game had more the impression honestly probably for the same reasons you pointed out. And it's why I really wished they would do the rerelease for the PS4/PS5 like they were doing for other games like Persona 4 or even Cathern.

On god i only know of dds2 because of it's banger ost and opening. Hopefully they remaster the dds duology like nocturne

I loved this game with my soul

Finally! The video is now available for us, peasants. (A full year and 1 day)

As always, amazing. I want to try know, but damn it is hard to find a way to play Ps2 games nowadays

i recently bought both for ps2 and going to play after im done with smt iv! (new to the series) sadly the ps2 looks awful on my tv so i gotta figure that out but i cant wait to play these games, the art style is so unique

The thing I remember most about this game is how it ripped my favorite characters out of my party, one at a time. Ultimately making the gameplay much harder and more unpleasant because my party was underdeveloped

Tbh I still vibe with Roland more than Heat. It makes no sense considering we only get 1 game with him, but no matter how emotional he was being, his decisions always felt far more "adult" and understandable than Heat constantly flying off the handle. Maybe I just tolerate the "middle-aged alcoholic nursing his failures" trope more than the "overprotective edgy hothead" trope. Idk

@kichiroumitsurugi4363

10 ай бұрын

And Roland just overall has better stats than Heat, a better starting skillset, and, most of all, his shotgun behaves exactly like Heat's grenade launcher

0:30 you could have said this video is to celebrate you 1 year aniversary of the DDS 1 video ;)

its actually incredible how good looking DDS looks to this day, Kazuma Kaneko art style is ageless and i cant stand that we dont have it anymore in the franchise

I read a ton of Hindu and Buddhist scriptures the past winter and they are some of the most philosophical books I read in a long time. The games do capture a lot of what's written in the Hindu vedas and Buddhist canon. Seeing Shiva as a bad guy will always be funny to me because he is literally one of the most human like Gods. Man has a happy family, chills out with his friends and followers and is an overall very nice God.

I love this game duology so much

Playing DDS2 after DDS was one of my best decisions this year. I really enjoyed the games!

This is the third entry i've ever played in the SMT serie, so i like it very much (Nocturne, then DDS then this)... It just.dawned on me the joke Serph Sheffield = Sir Sheffield, from Fran Drescher's The Nanny... 😱😱😱🤣🤣🤣

Roland such a badass character

The memory of this game will never be forgotten by us true fans

I really love these kinds of stories where things are barely hidden under a pretty small surface layer that requires very little independent work to scratch through because the writers trust the public to be able to figure it out. The public then always shows them how wrong they are by being confused and bitching about lazy and stupid they are

What's the name of the music in the begining of the video ?

Nam are you planning on covering FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTERGRADE EPISODE INTERMISSION?

@NamsCompendium

2 жыл бұрын

I actually still haven’t played Intergrade tbh. Just haven’t had the time to.

I remember the first time I beat this game and saved on time right before entering the final dungeon and after I beat the final boss I looked at my save time to see that approximately a fourth of my fuckin entire playhrough was spent in that final dungeon

Did you change the tittle and thumbnail?

Man I played through all of DDS 1 and got to the final boss of 2 and shut the game off after it destroyed me a bunch. That was a few years ago. Should probably go back and beat it lol.

"A Forgotten Sequel" is kinda wrong, tho. Literally everyone that is a DDS fan always imply that 2 is THE apex of niche JRPGS, even inside the SMT franchise. It's not forgotten at all.

@NamsCompendium

2 жыл бұрын

You’d be surprised how many people play only the first game, really enjoyed it, and never touch the second one. It’s frustratingly high, especially since DDS2 does a lot of stuff better imo

@serphgaming8069

2 жыл бұрын

@@NamsCompendium really? Everyone I've seen so far (in various megaten groups) played the two, that's why I said this

@toooydoeur

2 жыл бұрын

@TBN won't pop I've played both and I still favor the 1st one

I played 2! Loved both games

A side note to DDS1/2: The game was originally supposed to be a single game (according to what I've read), hence why the story seems divided. Personally DDS 1 did seem a bit short (story line wise).

@DragonKingX78

Жыл бұрын

Yeah first game has less story but I find it more fun to play.

@lordhighbinary2006

Жыл бұрын

@@DragonKingX78 Well I did finally beat the game twice so I could max everything out and beat the Demi-Fiend. Need to take a break from it for a bit, but looking to start DDS2 for the first time with all possible unlocks from DDS1. Wish me luck!