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Have you wondered why Carnatic and Hindustani music sound so different? Though they are both forms of Indian classical music, there is a world of difference between them. In this video we explore some key differences that will help you understand both the styles better.
0:48 World of Gamakas
2:08 The Language
2:50 Compositions vs. Ragas
3:32 Themes and moods
4:40 How you can get started

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  • @rebelxyz2077
    @rebelxyz2077 Жыл бұрын

    Here in Karnataka, we love both carnatic as well as Hindustani music.

  • @suryakiranss4141

    @suryakiranss4141

    11 ай бұрын

    ok

  • @anantawasthi3900

    @anantawasthi3900

    11 ай бұрын

    Same here in north.

  • @Gdhdjejgfsbh

    @Gdhdjejgfsbh

    11 ай бұрын

    Same man .

  • @user-io7sh7nx7c

    @user-io7sh7nx7c

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm from Bangalore in South Karnataka where Carnatic music is more prevalent with Tyagaraja and Purandaradasa aradhanas every year. In North Karnataka under the rule of Marathas and other Sultans Hindustani became more popular.

  • @PriyaGkrishnaiyer

    @PriyaGkrishnaiyer

    3 ай бұрын

    True

  • @kirchunetwork1986
    @kirchunetwork19863 жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine who is trained Carnatic Singer had this to say as well. Carnatic music evolved in Temples where as Hindustani music evolved in the courts of Rajas and Sultans .

  • @officially_nitin

    @officially_nitin

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, both have originated from Samaveda.

  • @erwinmasusu4342

    @erwinmasusu4342

    3 жыл бұрын

    No. The differences only started around the 11th century when North India was starting to be invaded by outsiders. Up to that point, both used the same important text books such as Bharata's Natya Shastra or the Sangeetha Ratnakara.

  • @kirchunetwork1986

    @kirchunetwork1986

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ho4250 what’s there to claim superiority complex ? Just stating an obvious fact. Not sure if you have listened to Carnatic music. 100% of them are bhakti or devotional.

  • @chaitanyavarada6737

    @chaitanyavarada6737

    3 жыл бұрын

    @HellbrokeL It's called Carnatic because Purandhara Dasa was from Karnataka... If you see most of the Kritis are in Telugu and Sanskrit..

  • @officially_nitin

    @officially_nitin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @HellbrokeL it was there before Islam even came into existence. Btw music is haraam in Islam.

  • @bhavyakumarsaini1639
    @bhavyakumarsaini16393 жыл бұрын

    Ma'am, I have been hearing hindustani music from last 7 years and have always wondered about Carnatic music and the difference between the two. This is a breathtaking attempt to answer my queries. Such videos should come much more in number.🙏

  • @SERJACINESCOPES

    @SERJACINESCOPES

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually you are given reference in the theoretical books in the syllabus that what are the differences between two..

  • @bhavyakumarsaini1639

    @bhavyakumarsaini1639

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SERJACINESCOPES Yes of course but a practical demonstration is much better to understand than reading texts.

  • @SERJACINESCOPES

    @SERJACINESCOPES

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bhavyakumarsaini1639 yep

  • @milinraval4542

    @milinraval4542

    3 жыл бұрын

    @andrei r please go to sentinel Ireland.

  • @anonymousguy329

    @anonymousguy329

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bhavyakumarsaini1639 Bro can you tell mee any good source of learning HC music online for a begginer?! 🙏

  • @mandarkhardenavis857
    @mandarkhardenavis8572 жыл бұрын

    India is the only country which has such a rich culture of music having 'Two Immortal Stream of Classical Music' i.e. 'Hindustani Shastriya Sangeet'(North Indian style) & 'Carnatic Sangeet'(South Indian style)....which reflects the Real Essence of India...I feel very proud to be Indian and a Student of Indian Classical Music as I am born & brought up in a Musical Family.....though I am trained in Hindustani......but I love Carnatic too and I am happy to learn it.....I love to sing songs in Different regional languages.. though my mother tongue is Marathi.....I would like to say that......Every Indian must l learn Indian Classical Music first whether Hindustani of Carnatic ....then other music like western or jazz etc......🎵🎵

  • @zzaynnnn

    @zzaynnnn

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Is't possible to learn hindustani Or carnatic music in the age of 18? I'm very passionate about to lear singing Please reply

  • @Kumarandevasenapathy6715

    @Kumarandevasenapathy6715

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@zzaynnnn Yeah ! Of course you could have study* 🎁

  • @vishnumohan9384

    @vishnumohan9384

    5 ай бұрын

    Hindustani is persian music which blended into sub continent

  • @sankarsankar1865

    @sankarsankar1865

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@vishnumohan9384nope

  • @PriyaGkrishnaiyer

    @PriyaGkrishnaiyer

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh

  • @erwinmasusu4342
    @erwinmasusu43423 жыл бұрын

    You should also add some historical context to the differences. Both systems emanated from the same origins but appears to have deviated around the 11th century, just when India was starting to be invaded by foreign forces. These invasions impacted North India a lot more than the South. In the North, almost all the temples were destroyed. These temples were not just places of worship but important centers for the arts. The lives and livelihoods of the usual patrons of the arts were destroyed. Many of the rulers of the invaders were against art forms such as music. Musicians had nowhere to go and had to closet themselves in close and hidden communities. This is what eventually led to the different gharanas. To earn a living as a musician, you had to please the ruling sultan and this invariably meant switching your religion, except during times of broad and open minded rulers such as Akhbar. So Hindustani musicians had a real tough time. Although some wonderful melodies were brought in from Persia and other places, Hindustani music was somewhat stifled with little opportunity to grow. Contrast this what happened in the south. Yes, the South too underwent tough periods of conquest but generally these were pretty brief. As a result, the great temples, the center for development of so many arts, were largely left untouched. Many of them are still proudly standing today. Much of the time, pockets of the south, such as the Kaveri delta, were agriculturally very rich. Most had enough to eat and there was plenty of time to develop the creative arts, which was encouraged by many local patrons. There was a tremendous growth in compositions, theory and practice. In the 1500s, Purandaradasa, apart from being a prolific composer, laid out the structure for learning CM which is still in use. It was his student, Haridas who migrated to Varnasi and became Tansen's guru. Venkatamakhi and others in the 1600 laid out the melakarta raga classification system (it took another 300 years for HM to come up with a classification system that is still not as comprehensive as the melakarta scheme). This era was followed by a galaxy of composers, Tyagaraja, Dikshitar and Syama Shastry being among the most prolific. So in many ways, CM is much more developed than HM.

  • @abhisheksoni2980

    @abhisheksoni2980

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for such a detailed explanation. As a north Indian, i completely agree that carnatic music is way more detailed, elaborate and comprehensive than HM. But at the same time, the beauty of HM lies in it's heistancy in using only ancient styles and instead coming up with a completely new styles. The isolation indeed pushed for more variations and development of independent styles. I wouldn't give much credit to North Western influence rather innovations like thumri, Gazal etc were purely indigenous. Converting mridang to tabla is one thing we're perticularly proud of.

  • @erwinmasusu4342

    @erwinmasusu4342

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@abhisheksoni2980 No doubt HM has its own areas of strength. However, I want to dispute a commonly held fallacy which is that CM uses "only ancient styles". It is some of the theoretical advances such as the development of the melakarta scheme that opened the way for lots of new ragas to be introduced. In Chemistry, the development of the Periodic Table led to the seeking and discovery of new elements. One can think of the melakarta table as having a similar influence - only it was 250 years earlier.

  • @naginder25

    @naginder25

    3 жыл бұрын

    Brothers me a musically illiterate person has just learned so much from you guys! This is the true essence of comment section where ideas are discussed but without hate and Bias . ♥️ ThankYou

  • @pranjal8912

    @pranjal8912

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hindustani music always had Rajput Patrons. Sitar is Three stringed veena which predates any persian influence. Ragas are from classical indian music only. Apart from urdu & persian songs impact of muslims on hindustani music is limited. Tansen learnt it near a Shiva Temple near Gwalior right next to Akbar (no he didn't convet that's a myth). Baijo Bawara never went to Akbar's court he was a great Hindustani musician he was the court musician of Man Singh Tomar of Gwalior so in a way Gwalior Gharana has nothing to do with Islam or Persia for that matter . Even pandit Ravi Shanka after examining both styles said the same thing. Same thing I find it with Kathak people are quick to jump to point out Salwar in Kathak ( Lucknow gharan) whilst ignoring the purer Benares & Jaipur gharanas.

  • @mei.mei1

    @mei.mei1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Erwin, for such a detailed explanation 🙏 I'm a Taiwanese Canadian trained in Western classical music, but love and appreciate global music. CM and HM are so soothing for me to listen to, and I'll listen while working, studying, or driving. It's just so beautiful and unique. The history gives the music so much meaning, so thank you again 🙏❤️🇨🇦🇹🇼

  • @manimee1313
    @manimee13132 жыл бұрын

    Mem.. i m from Assam.. i clear my visharad in hindustani music.. and now I want to learn carnatic music...

  • @rangachariv8992
    @rangachariv89923 жыл бұрын

    Prathiba you are an excellent Guru and Rasika. Kids who choose you as guru are fortunate. God Bless You. Your voice is unique.

  • @byron-ih2ge
    @byron-ih2ge3 жыл бұрын

    in short carnatic music still holds true to its vedic origins while hindustani music has a lot of persian , turkic and arabic influences on it and is secular in nature

  • @srikanthsidd9959

    @srikanthsidd9959

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! Carnatic Music is from the Sama Veda.

  • @annantporwal4970

    @annantporwal4970

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL who told you that it has a lot of arabic and Turkish influence? There is but not a lot of. However before the 13 century, India had only one classical music prevalent in the entire country

  • @byron-ih2ge

    @byron-ih2ge

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@annantporwal4970 sitar , tabla ,sarangi, santoor all are a result of mixing ancient indian culture with turko- persian culture. Hindustani music was more about celebration while carnatic is more about devotion.the ancient indian version( carnatic version) of tabla is mridangam and sitar is veena but ya this doesnt mean carnatic is 100 percent pure ancient indian classical music, carnatic does have foreign influences but they r very few and r majority from the west like violen is used in place of sarangi in carnatic music

  • @byron-ih2ge

    @byron-ih2ge

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@annantporwal4970 thats basically whats makes hindustani culture, hindustani culture( the Culture of north India and pakistan) , its ancient indian culture mixed with the turko persian influences brought by the sultans

  • @sudharshanasharma3144

    @sudharshanasharma3144

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mr Byron you are 💯 right sir thank you for your truthful words

  • @evolve2510
    @evolve25103 жыл бұрын

    You made my Indian culture subject easy and intresting. Thank you

  • @muldur5955
    @muldur59553 жыл бұрын

    as someone who is a fan of indian classical music but doesn't understand much about the theory, i appreciate this explanation. i was curious about this topic and you made it easy to understand :)

  • @anonymousguy329

    @anonymousguy329

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @sirtorchington
    @sirtorchington3 жыл бұрын

    I love how enthusiastic Pratibha is about teaching this stuff. great lessons 👌

  • @chensavi1169
    @chensavi11693 жыл бұрын

    Very nice explanation. Was looking for a comprehensive crisp video like this before but then I slowly figures these points out by myself by watching many videos and articles. But still this is very nice.

  • @gauthamkumar7538
    @gauthamkumar75383 жыл бұрын

    Super explanation about Carnatic and Hindushtani especially Devotional

  • @soysos.tuffsound
    @soysos.tuffsound3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you as always for your great insights and perspectives of one of the most wonderful musical traditions ever!

  • @aadityakiran_s
    @aadityakiran_s3 жыл бұрын

    You've really come a long way. There's not another person out there who is doing the things that you're doing. Very good that you're using technology to your advantage. I don't really sing but I play the guitar and one day maybe to explore Indian music, I will learn from you. Thanks, For what? For existing I guess....

  • @rathnakararaik324
    @rathnakararaik3243 жыл бұрын

    👌👌👌Very good information about Carnatic music Hindustani music. Thanks.🙏

  • @pallavisreetambraparni6995
    @pallavisreetambraparni6995 Жыл бұрын

    It is wonderful that india has two systems of great shastriya Sangeet : Hindustani shastriya Sangeet of North India and Karnatik Shastriya Sangeetam of South India and produced great artists like bharat Ratna pundit bhimsen Joshi, bharat Ratna MS subbulakshmi, Sangeet martand pundit jasraj, Vidwan Balamuralikrishna, Pundit Ravishankar, etc... And many others... Pranams 🙏🙏🙏

  • @rishiroy4171
    @rishiroy4171 Жыл бұрын

    People say i am a great singer but ur videos shows me more of learning is done specially in carnatic form

  • @AshKhondkar
    @AshKhondkar3 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are do clear and to the point! Thanks. - A music lover from Bangladesh living in Australia, with children learning Hindustani classical music and western classical music.

  • @NK-vd8xi

    @NK-vd8xi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't you have any interest in Bengali folk music?

  • @adityamohan1773
    @adityamohan17733 жыл бұрын

    Hey Prathibha. This was brilliant. There are many videos on youtube that claim to tell the difference between both styles but they fail to tell the differences you site in these videos. Most of them concentrate on swara sthanas and basic differences like the language of the compositions. Your descriptions are good.

  • @infinite5795
    @infinite57952 жыл бұрын

    It was interesting to know this mam. I would urge you to make another video displaying the differences between Odissi music and Hindustani or Carnatic music. Odissi music has some very different ragas as well.

  • @nksuman7
    @nksuman73 жыл бұрын

    Simply soooperb short and sweet information about the both indian classical music forms 🙏🙏🙏

  • @SpaceSoundMedia
    @SpaceSoundMedia3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful! thank you for sharing your insights yet again!

  • @AnanyaGupta
    @AnanyaGupta6 ай бұрын

    Now I have to go and find your classical music performances on KZread to continue listening to your intoxicating voice.

  • @aussiemeditation28268
    @aussiemeditation28268 Жыл бұрын

    4:18 “You should at least be comfortable enough to understand the gist of the compositions so that you can feel more connected to it and express the emotions appropriately.” 😂 True and hilarious! Great advice! Thank you wonderful, knowledgeable and proper instructor. ❤

  • @PujaKumari-tu3ok
    @PujaKumari-tu3ok2 жыл бұрын

    Finally I got the platform with it I can join to learn music undoubtedly

  • @manujshenoi2558
    @manujshenoi25583 жыл бұрын

    This was very much informative and I was searching this defference between hind. And karn.music....thank you very very very very much 🙏

  • @satyanarayandas1158
    @satyanarayandas11583 жыл бұрын

    Ati sundar. Dhanyavad mam

  • @sanjanavittal2588
    @sanjanavittal25882 ай бұрын

    Good info. Thanks.. Came here to know more about the difference to admit my 6 yr old into music classes🎉

  • @janakiwerakone5771
    @janakiwerakone57713 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, very informative,,video..

  • @jamesaron1967
    @jamesaron19674 ай бұрын

    Fascinating. I knew there were significant differences between North and South Indian music styles but wasn't aware of all the nuances. I guess this encompasses the non-vocal instrument performances as well.

  • @drumsoulsrecord1249
    @drumsoulsrecord12493 жыл бұрын

    Intresting and great knowledge you shared Mdm Prathiba thank you god bless u..🙏🙏🙏

  • @mj9765
    @mj97653 жыл бұрын

    A very important point that she makes- when you learn learn the meaning of the song, you will be able to sing it well. I would add that one should learn about the composer as well so one can bring out the right emotions.

  • @rajavishnuvardhana6830
    @rajavishnuvardhana68303 жыл бұрын

    Karnataka is the only state which fallows both the classical musics... Father of Carnatic music (Karnataka shastriya Sangeeta) purandara dasa.. Only Hindustani musician to get Bharata ratna is also from the state of Karnataka (Bhimsen Joshi) Kannada is the only language in which songs can be sang in both the classical music.

  • @user-lehsun-le-garib

    @user-lehsun-le-garib

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @prateekshahasfun1639

    @prateekshahasfun1639

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s awesome I’m a Carnatic singer. And I have learned many purandara data songs !

  • @srinidhi7140

    @srinidhi7140

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@prateekshahasfun1639 purandara dasa

  • @srinidhi7140

    @srinidhi7140

    3 жыл бұрын

    ನಮಸ್ಕಾರ 🙏

  • @BadassBikerOwns

    @BadassBikerOwns

    3 жыл бұрын

    You Kannada people have this Tamil gene where you have to boast about how great your state or language or ethnicity is. How about stating those facts in a non-boastful way?

  • @r.lkalas23
    @r.lkalas233 жыл бұрын

    You hv through knowledge any Carnatic and Hindustani. You hv sweet voice sing so well. I am your online studen and great Fan.l

  • @truthunbiasedunfiltered1428
    @truthunbiasedunfiltered14283 жыл бұрын

    Mam, can u do a vid on differences between Carnatic and Odissi music? As Odisha has recently filed a petition for recognition of Odissi music, which is different frm both Hindustani and Carnatic music, it has it's own ragas as well.

  • @jesiporreca

    @jesiporreca

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am Latin American and I am learning Odissi dance so a video with those differnces would be great!!

  • @amylandry

    @amylandry

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I agree!!

  • @AS-jo8qh

    @AS-jo8qh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @ayya11790
    @ayya117903 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful tutorial. Thank you.

  • @hectorrajclaudius2562
    @hectorrajclaudius25629 ай бұрын

    Excellent exposition. Very educative and very informative..

  • @lakshmi2707
    @lakshmi27073 жыл бұрын

    Scientific Expalanation. The best explanation so far

  • @bhawanibalasubramanian8230
    @bhawanibalasubramanian82303 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.Conveyed the differences clearly.

  • @yadneshchaudhari4208
    @yadneshchaudhari420821 күн бұрын

    Maharashtra is probably the only state that follows both the Hindustani and Carnatic tradition of shastriya sangeet. Marathi as a language also has a huge pool of vocabulary to choose from, it can be from Sanskrit, can be from Kannada or it can be from Persian, so it’s a very friendly language for poets too.

  • @v5bros201
    @v5bros201 Жыл бұрын

    For the music learners , i suggest you to listen to these Ar Rahman songs to find the difference between hindustani and carnatic music Sunn bhavara - Hindustani Malargal ketten - Carnatic

  • @kannan3209

    @kannan3209

    Жыл бұрын

    Amazing suggestion!

  • @moitrimukerrji5396
    @moitrimukerrji53963 жыл бұрын

    Very useful information...thank you.. wishes 🙏

  • @AnanyaGupta
    @AnanyaGupta6 ай бұрын

    This is so well explained. Thank you.

  • @user-pr8sj7ug6d
    @user-pr8sj7ug6d3 жыл бұрын

    Коротко и по делу.информативно,спасибо

  • @keerthana7514
    @keerthana75143 жыл бұрын

    I have started learning hindustani music recently. Could you please give tips and ways to improve musical knowledge and also to strengthen vocal fluency

  • @achyutmurari1218
    @achyutmurari12183 жыл бұрын

    This was sooooooooo informative!!! Thank you!!😌😌😌😌

  • @tejaswinijayashanker5348
    @tejaswinijayashanker53486 ай бұрын

    Simple and yet beautifully explained.

  • @SRD975
    @SRD9753 жыл бұрын

    Helpful for us.Thank you mam.

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger13423 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. A must see video for everyone interested in world music.

  • @JustFiddler

    @JustFiddler

    3 жыл бұрын

    indeed

  • @AntonySahayarajantonysahad
    @AntonySahayarajantonysahad3 жыл бұрын

    It's Really Good Madam... Thank You for the Explanation...

  • @sumanhv6149
    @sumanhv614921 күн бұрын

    Very good explanation!

  • @user-jq9fl3iz9c
    @user-jq9fl3iz9cАй бұрын

    Thanks for the information guru 😌 namaskar

  • @adityaranjanbiswal4044
    @adityaranjanbiswal40443 жыл бұрын

    You should have also mentioned about the odissi classical music of odisha

  • @sushmasanghi
    @sushmasanghi3 жыл бұрын

    Extremely beautiful explanation...

  • @lucyheartfilia8214
    @lucyheartfilia82145 ай бұрын

    Thank you! This was very helpful 😄

  • @usharani1770
    @usharani17703 ай бұрын

    Super madam..very simple and clear in presentation ❤❤❤

  • @velaudhanthampi3104
    @velaudhanthampi31043 жыл бұрын

    Excellent preparation and presentation

  • @shunyabhai
    @shunyabhai3 жыл бұрын

    Dhrupad, from the Hindustani tradition, has a huge focus on spiritual compositions...

  • @sruthisubramaniam913
    @sruthisubramaniam9133 жыл бұрын

    Please do more vdeos on info hindustani music mam please🙏

  • @jaden7790
    @jaden7790 Жыл бұрын

    saved my english presentation about indian music ❤

  • @sanandanacm7934
    @sanandanacm79343 жыл бұрын

    Lovely graphics as always!

  • @mohammadnajeeb2011
    @mohammadnajeeb20113 жыл бұрын

    Madam pls give a class about improvisation. How to improvise melody 🙏

  • @shantiglam
    @shantiglam3 жыл бұрын

    This was brilliant. I think that instruments do play a major role also : harmonium and tabla for hindustani and violin and mridunga for carnatic right ?

  • @aditidump

    @aditidump

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tala (rhythm or beat) is expressed in different ways in both carnatic and Hindustani. In carnatic, we express tala using the hands, while in Hindustani, it is expressed by the tabla.. also, harmonium is used in carnatic music, mostly in devotional songs.. again, violin can be used in Hindustani as well... mridanga is specific to carnatic..

  • @TheOpusTVG

    @TheOpusTVG

    3 жыл бұрын

    @andrei r I request you to not spread religion on a video dedicated to something different

  • @AA-eh5xm

    @AA-eh5xm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes and also, in Carnatic it's Ri and in Hindustani it's Re. Also Sitar and veena and Sarangi and Violin.

  • @sohumchaudhary7968

    @sohumchaudhary7968

    3 жыл бұрын

    @andrei r Where is Jesus' address? I wanna say wassup

  • @sreelekshmi7636

    @sreelekshmi7636

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not only violin but veena tamburu etc

  • @binocular5950
    @binocular5950 Жыл бұрын

    lovely explanation. Short and sweet

  • @bluedefence6065
    @bluedefence606510 ай бұрын

    Thankyou so much for the explanation❤

  • @Prajanajoshi209
    @Prajanajoshi209 Жыл бұрын

    hey I am learning carnatic and got this question in my mind and it is answered correctly from you

  • @eduardoespinosq8897
    @eduardoespinosq889710 ай бұрын

    What an amazing Chanel, thank you very much ❤

  • @saraswathivasudevan3868
    @saraswathivasudevan38682 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much 🙏🏽Wonderful

  • @aneebkhan2969
    @aneebkhan2969 Жыл бұрын

    I'm urdu speaking guy and i used to listen Hindustani classical music since my childhood...but i find more variety in carnatic music.

  • @iammovingtokorea
    @iammovingtokoreaАй бұрын

    Great video!

  • @vidyamirji2941
    @vidyamirji29413 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Want to learn

  • @parjanyashukla176
    @parjanyashukla1763 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining the difference. To a musically illiterate person like me, it was really helpful.

  • @keepyourbeat3207
    @keepyourbeat32073 жыл бұрын

    Super mam, really so helpful for me 🙏

  • @saimogalla9786
    @saimogalla97863 жыл бұрын

    Thank you madam. Great explanation.

  • @mohanapriya1601
    @mohanapriya16012 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much ma'am. This doubt was killing me from many years ago I got clarity now ma'am 😍❤🙏 I want to learn Hindustani classical

  • @balapurva
    @balapurva2 жыл бұрын

    Very informative one. Pls tell if there is any equivalent to dhaqt in carnatic music. Thanks

  • @ditscreation
    @ditscreation2 жыл бұрын

    Make a video about Both classical and Western classical

  • @poornakamalaprairial920
    @poornakamalaprairial920 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for teaching. 🙏🪷

  • @gayathri633
    @gayathri6333 жыл бұрын

    Maam Can you take a video of difference Between Carnatic and western????

  • @narayanaswamy1188

    @narayanaswamy1188

    3 жыл бұрын

    Both are same but interpretation is different

  • @jayanthbharadwaj9490

    @jayanthbharadwaj9490

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@narayanaswamy1188 dude ssly? That's the only word I can say for your statement ? They both are same ? Ssly dude ?

  • @narayanaswamy1188

    @narayanaswamy1188

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jayanthbharadwaj9490 hello Mr I respect carnatic, Hindusthani, and western also, I know carnatic notes ,Hindusthani notes and also I known western staff line notes . Music is same learning methods are different.

  • @narayanaswamy1188

    @narayanaswamy1188

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jayanthbharadwaj9490 in carnatic 72 melakartha ragas but in HINDUSTHANI ONLY 10 MELAKARTHA RAGAS. ULTIMATELY BOTH ARE THE MUSIC

  • @narayanaswamy1188

    @narayanaswamy1188

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jayanthbharadwaj9490 are you know about western music notes fully.

  • @thekaidmusic
    @thekaidmusic3 жыл бұрын

    great video for singing learners like me

  • @ztube2k
    @ztube2k3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful explanation

  • @keerthanacv539
    @keerthanacv5393 жыл бұрын

    Please update new content on VoxGuru!! There was a module 3 in Carnatic music...now I see it's removed...y? Few other modules are removed too...

  • @swarsur
    @swarsur3 жыл бұрын

    I have spent an enormous part of my life listening to the music of Mali, Bala Murali, MS Gopalakrishnan, Nedunuri, MS, Mandolin Srinivas et al before moving on to Bhimsen Joshi, Hari Prasad Chaurasia, Jasraj, Nikhil Banerjee, Amir Khan, Bismiallah Khan et al... I still love Carnatic music (CM), but... 1) Gamakam: I recently watched Dr. TS Saytavati's lecdem on "Musical Excellence in the compositions of Dikshitar" where she demonstrates that the beauty and genius of his compostions are influenced by the Hindustani style vilambit sancharas (meend?), lamenting at the excessive use of gamakas and speed in CM... 2) Language/compositions: If sahityam is so important in CM, why is that pronunciation, accent and articulation (of other languages) routinely sacrificed ? 3) Theme: Given the predominantly divine/devotional nature of compositions in CM, can an atheist be a true Carnatic musician/listener? I used to complain to my CM friend "there is only so much devotion I can muster".... 4) Carnatic music concerts: After listening to a month long Ram Navami series of CM concerts recently, I find technical gimmickry (gamackry, if I may say so), one-upmanship, speed take precedence over aesthetics and musicality... Your thoughts?

  • @amrita5988

    @amrita5988

    3 жыл бұрын

    From my (very) limited knowledge, putting my thoughts.... 1)The first thing that a learner learns while using gamakams is that they are "embellishments" only to be used when required along with a warning not to use them excessively.To very experienced "enjoyers" , the variety of gamakams brings them ecstasy, maybe not so much to others.Its a personal choice, on what to listen, and what to sing.The Dr you had mentioned is no different.Another person excelled in gamakams would definitely have a different take on the same kritis of Dikshitar. Appreciating both, without lament seems like a wise way to proceed, unless one has an agenda. 2)The pronounciations , acccents and articulations are not meant to be sacrificed.And a lot of people , do correct the juniors when they try to sacrifice those, imitating the ones who does.The ones who sacrifice them are either too proud (fame does that to most), or just simply too immersed in the music to a point that the sahithyam means no more.When one is one with the one,what more is there than one?It happens with the hindustani people too. 3)Again, the devotion in these is not he same as religion.This has been a culture that always accepted.Even atheism is a part of Sanathana Dharma.When you say Krishna, it isnt a person thats signified, its what that word means to one,maybe love, maybe adoration...A reason why there are so many Kritis...The same reason there are so many gods, when all of them say they are the same as you.Its to understand that concept, the path of devotion is used. 4)Sadly, thats true...Also in the case of any other music.The technical gimmickry(Gamackry) is what that draws a lot of people in, even though its to satisfy their ego.Maybe money is factor?Maybe pride is?But yes, its prevalent in all music, Even Hindustani. I listen to both Hindustani and Carnatic as well, But I dare not judge any with the flaws that few people creates.The same singer.Some one had told me Carnatic music is Focused on Bhakthi rasa, Whereas Hindustani is on Prema rasa.I do believe they both are one and the same.

  • @swarsur

    @swarsur

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amrita5988 Thanks for your thoughts. You do make some very valid points, but: 1. Agenda: Dr. Satyavati is a eminent musicologist, a performer and a Sanskrit scholar who has also done sessions of "Musical Excellence in the compositions" of Thyagaraja, Swati Tirunal, Muthiah Bhagavathar et al... Notwithstanding all that, I am not quite certain she has an anti-gamakam agenda... However, I will admit I have an agenda... Gamak and gimmick for all I care, but not at the cost of musicality and service of the raga... The avirbhava and rasa anubhava are paramount... 2. You said it well 'When one is one with the one, what more is there than one?'. In all my years of listening to Carnatic and Hindustani music, I have never paid reasonable attention to the lyrics, language and the sahityam of a composition... It is as if the krithi requires a raga, not the other way round... 3. Like I said in my first comment, I spent a whole month listening to Ram Navami concerts mostly featuring Carnatic music... Much as I tried to appreciate it, they neither evoked devotion nor had compelling raagdaari... They would sing krithi after krithi, but the divine seemed to be 'missing in action' and the melodic appeal questionable ;-) The beautiful 'Bantu reethi' was briefly played in passing and the wonderful 'Rama Bhakthi Samraajya' wasn't even mentioned by any of them... :( Instead, one of them was peddling the superiority of Vaishnavism using the Ajamila anecdote :( Rama, Rama... ;-) 4. Many a prominent Carnatic musician profess, and often express the view that 'if you know carnatic music well, you can play anything'.. Dr. N. Rajam said it candidly in an interview: 'even with the best of techniques from the south, I was not able to reproduce vocal rendering of Hindustani music the way it ought to have been done'... I like carnatic music, but listen to a Hamsadhwani rendered by Pt. Hariprasad Chaurasia, a Charukeshi played by Nikhil Banerjee, a Saraswati delivered by Pt.. Manilal Nag or Pt. Ram Narayan or a Kalavati sung by Dr. Prabha Atre... All allegedly Carnatic ragas, but what a true delight when presented in Hindustani style... I have known the magic of Mali's flute, beauty/bhava of Bala Murali's voice, impeccable precision of MS. Gopalakrishnan's violin... And yet, miss the serenity, the synergy and the spirit of jugalbandhi... Apologies for the longish response...

  • @amrita5988

    @amrita5988

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@swarsur Thanks for the response! Simply put..One enjoys What they understands. Bias exists where there is lack of Knowledge, maybe in lack of Experience. Doesnt the same words invoke different levels of experience with different people, or the same person in a different time? Maybe DR Rajam wasnt able to render music in the way he wanted, But that doesnt mean there are no people who can. The serenity, the synergy and the spirit is present in Music, either Hindustani or Carnatic.Its our state of mind at that time, that renders us incapable to understand the intricacies of any music

  • @swarsur

    @swarsur

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amrita5988 I have no need to 'understand' music... I don't listen to the words, lyrics and language... “Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent" said Victor Hugo... An American friend once asked me if I meditate and I replied "No, I listen to music"... I hope you get my drift... Dr. N. Rajam isn't a he... If you don't know who she is, check out her musical pedigree... Music, I think should elevate and exalt... not belittle us with its "oh, so complex, complete and comprehensive that we are incapable to cope with its intricacies" kind of schlep ;-)

  • @srivathsannadathur9452

    @srivathsannadathur9452

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what differentiates good musicians from the rest. Did the musician bring out the essence of the song as envisioned by its creator? The combination of sahityam and sangeetham in my opinion the most powerful communication medium. You convey the message, mood, rasa, urgency, etc etc using this combination. Losing sight of this and in the name of creativity showing off Isa great disservice to the creator of that krithi.

  • @nspireranny3284
    @nspireranny32843 жыл бұрын

    Your class is so useful and you are GREAT🌹🌹🌸

  • @Nikilpattar
    @Nikilpattar Жыл бұрын

    Beautifully explained

  • @psychiatrist123
    @psychiatrist1239 ай бұрын

    Madam I have grip of basic Brighaas. But could you please do a you tube on complex long Brighas and fast phrases. Thank you madam

  • @Prakash-rw8eh
    @Prakash-rw8eh3 жыл бұрын

    I like your video , My daughter wants to learn vocal singing foundation course

  • @ninasaligman4762
    @ninasaligman4762 Жыл бұрын

    So helpful!!!

  • @9848002155
    @98480021553 жыл бұрын

    Pl tell how to make a tune of a song for a lyric. In a song between lyrics How is music made on same raga or different raga

  • @learnenglishbytelugu7999
    @learnenglishbytelugu79993 жыл бұрын

    Mam, sorry to say this, many times I think that I don't want to say this, but my mind can't, So I AM LOVING YOU as per musically & educatedly.

  • @leecorbeu7284
    @leecorbeu72842 жыл бұрын

    So interesting I'm from ga in the united states amd I'm seeking inspiration from music 5hat is not commonly used or heard I'm in a band and what to draw inspiration and use it to create an new brand of music in the united states that will spotlight culture and the sounds of the ancient people of the world.

  • @padmashreekulkarni6284
    @padmashreekulkarni6284 Жыл бұрын

    Since very long i had this doubt. Today it has cleared

  • @lmclrain
    @lmclrain3 жыл бұрын

    Please try to show us more examples in the future, like making lists of songs that we can find here on KZread. Thanks for the video

  • @himanshuv30
    @himanshuv302 жыл бұрын

    Hi , is it possible to figure out the music type with generic wordings . I looking for an song / album … which was realized 2003-04 The wording was like tak dheeme na … and was happy song . Can’t remember he album name , can you help with few suggestions please

  • @ramasawmysokanaden4298
    @ramasawmysokanaden4298 Жыл бұрын

    Could u tell me why in carnatic music the sa could be situated in any starting note of any scale of the keyboard as for me that does not make sense

  • @kitchens222
    @kitchens2223 жыл бұрын

    Carnatic is best.....❤️ So divine......

  • @JustFiddler
    @JustFiddler3 жыл бұрын

    aku jadi mengerti. matur suksma

  • @abinashmishra8630
    @abinashmishra8630 Жыл бұрын

    Please make a video on Odissi classical music as well...

  • @m.alt_music9977
    @m.alt_music9977 Жыл бұрын

    very well explained!

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