Tory Lanez talked the most sense on this , the OG wanted to sound like the YNs but the YNs wanna hear the OG do that OG rnb sound, but I’ll say this Capella Grey is bringing a lot of that back, plus Tory Lanez is a creative genius when it comes to bringing back a sound without destroying the core value, hence the TPAIN remix. I think it’s coming Capella Grey needs to take this giant opportunity and shift in music with everything he’s got.

Summer has broken records twice and they still cheat her out of certain awards

@capricornman89

Жыл бұрын

Becauae she doesn’t kiss butt or play those industry games. She’s strictly talented and can’t be muzzled.

But Diddy has to accept his part in the demise of R&B… he had talented artists signed to Bad Boy (Faith, Carl Thomas, 112, Total) and he didn’t push them to their full capabilities….and he very well could have… so I agree with what he’s saying but again he needs to take accountability as he had a hand in the demise…

@christianjames92

Жыл бұрын

What you mean? All of them had hits.

@clarkkent502

Жыл бұрын

@@christianjames92 what I mean is their careers (Faith, Carl Thomas, 112, and Total) could have been longer they had the potential to last well into the 2000s.

I really want her to do something like last day of summer again . That was the album that made me pay attention to summer .The upbeat stuff is where it’s at its cool . But her true peak is soul music 😭💕

Great conversation, this need to bleed back to hip hop... nas and Jay need to this 💯

I just love King Usher Raymond 👑👑. ♥️♥️♥️ he switched it up with live instruments a couple of months ago. He reminded me of black people's connection to muzique ♥️♥️♥️.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

People forgot the gospel was birth of r&b

@wingirl9333

Жыл бұрын

GOSPEL yes 👃🏾💜❤️💘

Melodic Rap killed R&B. It’s the most popular music in the world and R&B artist comprised their authenticity to fit the narrative. Rappers haven’t rapped since Ye, Wayne, and 50 start harmonizing Ari Lennox, Jasmine Sullivan, Tory when he wants, DVSN, Lucky Daye, Summer Walker, etc Those are the names that come to mind when I think of pure quality R&B

@jessicat2304

Жыл бұрын

Pj Morton

@ummah26

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I think Soulja boy changed hiphop and I think drake actually changed rnb. He showed male singers that being a below avg vocalist and be successful. As long as he has been singing, he hasn't tried to become a better singer

@Stress7820

Жыл бұрын

@@ummah26 I totally agree with u. 2008 was the last year for RNB IMO. The Guys running the airwaves during that time was Neyo, Akon , and Usher they all had a hit during that year .. then after that Drake pops up sometime later laid this whole singing rapping Blueprint that mostly all artists today do the copy and paste syndrome and call it rnb ...RNB is damn mess SMH

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

​@@Stress7820yup that definitely killed

Awesome stuff

Traditional or more pure R&B isn’t played because Pop R&B or this artificial formulaic type R&B has flooded the radio so much that the original R&B died out

Sevyn Streeter is definitely R&b that girl sings and has range. Write good music that women can relate too…

Church comment by J.D. was 🎯

Sounds like she proved exactly what puffy is saying

There's a new "Urban Alternative" radio format. It's the black version of the "AAA" format. There's 6 stations in the country so far: Vocalo (Chicago), Hyfin (Milwaukee), The Drop (Denver), The Vibe (Houston), Carbon Sound (Twin Cities) and Hot 91 (Norfolk). Alternative Hip Hop and R&B, mainstream Hip Hop and R&B that fits the format, 80s 90s 00s 10s and 20s....major hits, moderate hits and album cuts from all types of artists. You know those artists who have a large following but get no play on the radio? (Denzel Curry, Joey Badass, Vince Staples, Doechii, Big Krit, etc...) Those artists get played right along with mainstream artists. These are all live stations with DJs who take suggestions from the audience. They even play some House, Dance, Afrobeat and Jazz tracks. It takes about 10 minutes to realize that it's better than commercial urban radio has been over the last 20 years. It already has a strong grassroots following and can really blow up if the people support it.

Don’t retire Summer

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

I keep telling people gospel music and the church was the birth of r&b it need that church feel back again

JD was spitting facts on Usher. Saw him in Vegas….amazing,

Can't help but feel like Diddy is just in some serious pain. Projecting he needs love.

@kyshac81

Жыл бұрын

He’s a music producer. Has nothing to do with pain. This is his lane.

@DonnellByrd74

Жыл бұрын

Your probably right, I think he's just getting everyone attention, because he's battling JD in verse.

I agree with Diddy for once. I wanna feel the emotions again and the love connections in music videos. That's what today's R&B music is missing.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

That's because these singer's don't have that church vibe energy & singing like they did in the 90s R&b had a spirit to it in the 90s

"I'm not a human, I'm a Frequency..."

We as fans don't support true R&B we love bi-product of this great genre.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

R&b just became very raunchy aswell even when they use to sing about sex in r&b back then it wasn't so raunchy they use to use big words that you had to catch

So many ways you can break this shit down. From the way this shit is structured how it sounds how it’s pushed from the “machines” because since 2010 we been in popcorn mode. Only few timeless records in a decade. But the main #1 problem with this shit is like everything else that got watered down in life. T H E INTERNET….

It's funny that Diddy says this because I remember around the time when I wanted to be a producer and the black eyed peas boom boom song took over the radio, I said nah this shit is dead

JD and B. Cox spoke truth. The real death of R&B is when all these singers who didn’t grow up singing in church started coming in the game. R&B lost the feeling it used to have because majority of the successful artists learned how to convey emotion and sing from being in church. Faith Evans, Kelly Price, Usher, Brandy, Monica, Toni Braxton, Whitney Houston, SWV (Coko), Xscape, R. Kelly, Carl Thomas, etc. They were all church kids. 💯

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

Boyz to men , jodeci , shai , silk , a whole alot of others r&b dosen't have that church feel anymore like it use to at all

Love that he had Tory on here

Real Good R&B songs get into your soul, you can feel that ish. When you come out of that 80s-90s-00s music era, this R&B nowadays is just in the toilet. Jazmine Sullivan, Muni Long, and Ari Lennox are good singers, but in my opinion they need better songwriting, and better production. Their music is still not measuring up to where R&B was even in the early 2000s. A lot of these people out now can barely sing, the song writing is horrible, and the production is subpar. Too many trap producers call themselves producing R&B. And a lot of these producers nowadays are just beat makers, they are not real producers. Summer Walker’s music is horrible, I don’t care what anyone says. Her and SZA are mumbling singers, the music sounds horrible. The songwriting for them is horrible. Summer Walker can be much better, she needs better song writing and she needs a real producer. Khelani straddles the fence, she has better songs than most of these chics. But her songs could be better. Ella Mai in my opinion has the best production and songs. H.E.R music is good, but it’s too dark, and her singing is OK. She’s a musician not so much of a singer, similar to Alicia Keys. H.E.R. should probably be more so a producer/songwriter. The male R&B singers besides Bruno Mars and Anderson.Paak…I don’t even know what they are doing.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

But people keep forgetting like Jermaine Dupri said the church and gospel was the birth of r&b r&b doesn't have that spirit of GOD and singing playing instruments Boyz to men came from choir school we need thos choir men back again

@kyshac81

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc I agree. That’s why Diddy said there should be a measure. If you can’t sing you shouldn’t be in it. But even if the singer isn’t that strong of a singer, the songwriting is key. The production is apart of the song writing. That’s why the R&B of the past was so good because of the songwriting & production matched with the singer’s level of talent. Like Janet Jackson wasn’t the best singer, but she worked with a production team Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, who were phenomenal producers and songwriters. That matters.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

@@kyshac81 facts I agreeand we need to bring dancing back it's all part of music not just twerking but actually choreography back with steps No autoune we need that back

@kyshac81

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc I was just thinking that. Yes, definitely there should be Dancing and choreography back in there.

@kyshac81

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc Bruno Mars and Anderson.Paak are singing, songwriting and producing 80s and 90s style, and look how they are blowing everybody out the water.

I agree with Tory Lanez that the OGs should’ve made sure these people were making quality songs. That’s an opportunity for the OGs to song write and produce. And I’ve noticed that bridges and rifts are not in the music, that’s why the songs and production are so poor quality. it’s laziness in production.

God damn summer is beautiful

Congratulations to my man Usher Raymond

The 1st time I actually heard Tory Lanez was on Mario's song "Main One"... Ikr. 1st time I seen or heard Summer was on an award show looking lost. Still don't what song she sung.

We need videos like BET and MTV back

@khrisbreezy3406

Жыл бұрын

You mean the old bet and mtv, the current one is trash

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

​@@khrisbreezy3406it's not gonna work because of the internet , it worked back then because we had to watch this show's to watch are favorite artists now we don't thank's to KZread & all this technology

Amen

Didn't nobody mention Fantasia😒

The ALGORITHM killed music and probably erything else.

"(In My HUMBLE OPINION)If A MUSIC FAN has A "LOST SOUL" It Can Be A HUGE CHALLENGE for Him/Her 2 Connect To An "R&B" Song/Soloist..., Thus He/She Wants ONLY 2 Hear+Listen 2 The POPpin' HITs" #SOUL #wHEreIStheLOVEthouGh

.... Where is the conversation of Luke James. Forget everybody else is talkin bout.

Love is missing cuz God missing 🎯🎯🎯

@ShaunOneLove

Жыл бұрын

Facts

What was the first R&B song that he played at the beginning of this live stream @JayIII?

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

Gospel is the birth of r&b Jermaine Dupri is right that's where all the singer's are from

8:20 No. Radio should play Summer entire catalog. Whoever in charge of radio need to be fired. Let me DJ.

Diddy is one of the people who was / is instrumental in murdering R & B ! Duh 🙄😐!

I don’t agree with hitmaker the best song on The Games new album is “Universal Love” that is literally r&b and the title says it all

Drake killed it 🤣🤣🤣 he the only one who ever be out

All it take is one major r&b artist with a different style to sell alot of records and streams. Then watch the whole industry dub the formula. That's how we got too this point. T Pain was major. Artist like him and Kanye West's 808 and heartbreak literally shaped the modern Era. Also as much as I respect these Ogs the new wave will not come from them. It will be up and coming artists and producers. They might fund them. But I hope love music returns. 🎶 usher is great but so is Chris Brown. And they canceled R.kelly 😆.

I agree with Tory lanez

I feel like Diddy only wanted current R&B singers when he needed to bring in some old school people too not just Producers JD and BCox

@Flack0-Flacko

Жыл бұрын

He…he did this his second one you late brodie

Too much drill smh 🤦the same repetitive beat over and over 😤worst thing everrrrrrrrr

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

That trap drill sound ruined r&b

@benja303

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc Man R&B was dead before drill even gained traction

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

@@benja303 that is also very true your right about that but that drill sound may it much worser

Not a human 😱😭😜😝😛😳😲🥵!

Blxst all day…… Tory for baccup But u spot on

Tory must be taking about himself because Jacquees got records with legends

Summer is hurt.

Jessie reyez brings it r&b

Didn't help mixed R&B together..

Coming home soon fuk MIT Mr Combs Love always

@michaelriviezzo1678

Жыл бұрын

Me not MIT

Drake killed r&b yeah I said it

Chris Brown is the King of RnB /Pop❤️

BCox

Usher is king

@guwapdcfinest5868

Жыл бұрын

Lol Shutup he never was over r Kelly

@the1mica276

Жыл бұрын

Definitely R Kelly despite his screwed up ways….

@jessicat2304

Жыл бұрын

@@guwapdcfinest5868 Bobby

@jaykristian745

Жыл бұрын

Period!