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  • @AntonelliBaseball
    @AntonelliBaseball Жыл бұрын

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  • @gordygroover
    @gordygroover Жыл бұрын

    I've been force feeding baseball to my wife for 26 years now. She didn't know a foul ball from a pine tar rag in the beginning. This June we will visit our 17th ball park (Detroit) and she's watched hundreds of games on the tube. She can now discuss the hidden things of the game, like this play that make the game so interesting. We had dinner with friends once and one of them said that baseball is so boring. My wife just said "it's only boring if you don't know what you're looking at". I married the right girl.

  • @scottydog1313

    @scottydog1313

    Жыл бұрын

    Same thing with my wife except, it was football. She got into baseball too, but not nearly so much as football. After a few years of watching and learning, she was much more knowledge that 95% of the guys I knew that were fans.

  • @DoritosClipz

    @DoritosClipz

    Жыл бұрын

    Where do I find someone like thus

  • @scottydog1313

    @scottydog1313

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DoritosClipz You get lucky. She was an electronics tech as well. So she was quite aware of the need for good tools. I had pretty much carte blanch to get any tool I needed to get a job done. When the first 18 V cordless tools came along, she told me to upgrade all of my 12 V ones.

  • @pullt

    @pullt

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@scottydog1313 I remember my Dad buying me (and himself) a 14.4 Dewalt Drill/Driver in early 95 right after I graduated high school and started working at his locksmith shop in Houston. I'd went 18v and then 20v over the years and run essentially every option....expensive, cheap, awesome, shitty, you name it. I actually still use that DeWalt my old man gave me for minor stuff around the house, although I can't make myself use his.

  • @richardrmilner1118

    @richardrmilner1118

    Жыл бұрын

    too long make your point!

  • @patdry
    @patdry Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing camera angle for this play, that throw home is a work of art!

  • @bt1235

    @bt1235

    Жыл бұрын

    That entire play by 3B was a work of art

  • @jamesberry3230

    @jamesberry3230

    Жыл бұрын

    runner leaves the base path and is automatically out, no discussion!

  • @bt1235

    @bt1235

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesberry3230 lolll

  • @jeradw7420

    @jeradw7420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesberry3230 Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video. The video explains the rule pretty well.

  • @Kartracer6

    @Kartracer6

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesberry3230 where did he leave the base path?

  • @Boyso5407
    @Boyso5407 Жыл бұрын

    That is such a perfectly executed play by the 3rd baseman. Moves in to get the short hop, great exchange, perfect balance on the wrong foot throw and an absolute dart right at the catchers chest. That’s all in a matter of 3 seconds and done perfectly

  • @chrislukes9037

    @chrislukes9037

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. And this is a great breakdown but Antonelli focuses a lot on the runner hoping to catch the ball in his back; really he’s forcing a tough play that could fail in other ways such as the third baseman’s challenging throw instead sailing right of the catcher to the backstop, or simply blocking the catchers vision of the ball; but well executed by the defense despite all this.

  • @philmiller4961

    @philmiller4961

    Жыл бұрын

    I ALWAYS LIKED PLAYING INFIELD, THINKING IN TERMS OF AN AGGRESSIVE DEFENSIVE MINDSET, AN OFFENSIVE, DEFENSIVE WAY OF THINKING. THAT ALWAYS FOSTERS CONFIDENCE, IN A PLAYER'S DEFENSIVE ABILITIES. ALWAYS PLAY DEFENSE, ON YOUR TOES, NOT YOUR HEELS.

  • @zyglo9826

    @zyglo9826

    11 ай бұрын

    There’s a major league third baseman who knows how to play his position, anticipate possible scenarios, and react instantly and properly to a rapidly developing play. And a smart runner who tried to maximize his advantage.

  • @georgehunt6381

    @georgehunt6381

    10 ай бұрын

    The runner made a mistake, he did not run right at the catcher, to much inside. With the way the catcher is squared up withe third base line and reading his eyes ,(his eyes will go to the ball,) the runner can get an idea of where the fielder is and the direction of the thrown ball. I thought the explanation of the play was excellent. Good job on explaining the runners path to the plate, where he can go and at what time he has to come in line with the base path. Also very good at sharing the contact play used by teams, when and why it might be used. I played all the way up through one year in college. Then, umpired for a few years. A lot of people, for lots of reasons,, do not know the rules or the game. What is incredible is the ridiculous comments made by some thinking they do understand it. Again. If I may, great job here with your explanation in breaking down this play. Enjoyed your presentation.

  • @Geotubest

    @Geotubest

    5 күн бұрын

    A very instinctive play. Well done.

  • @ExEoFN
    @ExEoFN Жыл бұрын

    I’ve played baseball for decades. This was a great breakdown of what is happening. Well done!!!

  • @chuckgrenci6404

    @chuckgrenci6404

    Жыл бұрын

    Terrific analysis of this play, 'covered all the bases' as it were. 👌

  • @brucewallace3860

    @brucewallace3860

    Жыл бұрын

    It seems like a simple play because professional ball players are amazingly good. Likewise, outstanding breakdown. Thanks!

  • @tpstrato2270

    @tpstrato2270

    Жыл бұрын

    same way I teach it

  • @pauls.2308

    @pauls.2308

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@timgriffith9333, I'm torn here. In spirit, I couldn't agree more. When the rubber meets the road, however, It kind of makes me think of war: When you are trying to defeat your enemy, are there really rules? When I started playing hockey goalie, I felt uncomfortable about lying and and telling someone that the puck didn't go in the net when I knew it did on a few occasions. Obviously, my teammates got p***** when I said that it went in because no referee is going to disallow a goal that the goaltender himself says was a goal. I learned to just not speak in those situations to avoid creating bad energy with my own teammates; however, once I started playing for money I knew for a fact that telling the truth in a situation like that would do more than damage my chemistry with my teammates- it would end my career. Just like this play has so much to consider in it's breakdown, so does the consideration of whether or not you should interfere with an opponent's ability to successfully beat you, possibly even in ways that take a chance that you'll get in trouble or that you are knowingly doing something that defies the paper-rules of the game. Again, in spirit, I could not agree more; in a perfect world, you would run straight at the base and shake your opponent's hand if he throws you out! Blessings 🙏🏾

  • @chrislukes9037

    @chrislukes9037

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pauls.2308 but no rules are being broken, the runner isn’t cheating at all! (As explained in the video) this is part of the game! Edit: now he can really shake the opponents’ hands for throwing him out despite his best efforts

  • @tomw485
    @tomw485 Жыл бұрын

    That was a hell of a play by the 3rd baseman to make a good throw on the run with the runner directly in his line of site to the catcher.

  • @beamo1220

    @beamo1220

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah the runner didn't guess to far in, he made the 3rd baseman take step to the right and side arm the throw to get it around him.

  • @udrinkit

    @udrinkit

    13 күн бұрын

    Great play at 3b.

  • @michaelmcadam4363
    @michaelmcadam4363 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic breakdown and rules explanation. Incredible play for all 3 players, truly at the highest level.

  • @BalBurgh
    @BalBurgh Жыл бұрын

    Goes to show how much craft is involved in the game of baseball and how good the professionals can be.

  • @mkwy8782

    @mkwy8782

    11 ай бұрын

    This is standard play that any HS player should know.

  • @jnam23
    @jnam23 Жыл бұрын

    Situation was 1 out with runners on 2nd (McCutchen) and 3rd (Reynolds) with Santana batting.. This occurred on the top of the 4th with the Pirates leading 4-1 over the Reds. Pirates won the game 5-4. Opening day this year (March 30, 2023).

  • @AntonelliBaseball

    @AntonelliBaseball

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!!

  • @user-ld4nm7xo7x

    @user-ld4nm7xo7x

    Жыл бұрын

    With all the information you gave us, I wouldn't call that a good base running because there was a chance to get the base loaded with just one out or if the throw attempted to first base then he could have tried to steal home.

  • @MyBiPolarBearMax

    @MyBiPolarBearMax

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-ld4nm7xo7x i have a friend that works in the analytics department of an MLB team. He once said “if theres a play at the plate, its already the right decision” and thats changed my perspective. Theres probably a 65% chance of executing between the difficult hop, the difficult throw and the difficult tag all applying versus 98% chance out at first and you dont really lose that much. It was good baserunning imo

  • @quigonkenny

    @quigonkenny

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@user-ld4nm7xo7x That might have been a better option in hindsight, but only because the 3B played this literally perfectly. 95 times out of 100, that's a run.

  • @mkwy8782

    @mkwy8782

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this additional information. This clarifies that the runner on third, indeed, made the correct decision. With runners on 2nd and 3rd this is a running on contact play. Here, you make the defense execute a difficult play-if they so choose. And worst case scenario you end up with runners on 1st and 3rd.

  • @stevedietrich8936
    @stevedietrich8936 Жыл бұрын

    The first thing I thought of when I saw the play was how well the 3rd baseman executed the play. He charged the ball, got it cleanly on the short hop (and it almost hit the seam where the grass meets the dirt), and made a quick throw that was right on target. I did learn, though, that the runner can run inside the baseline. I would have guessed that he would have been called out.

  • @dallasmuzikboy

    @dallasmuzikboy

    Жыл бұрын

    same for me, i did not realize the base runner could do so. I just assumed they'd be out because of purposeful running out of the baseline. I'd be curious to know what the actual "out of the baseline" running rule is.

  • @philmiller4961

    @philmiller4961

    Жыл бұрын

    ONLY AT FIRST BASE, IS THE POTENTIAL BASEPATH/BASELINE, CLEARLY ESTABLISHED, AHEAD OF A PLAY. AS A THIRD BASEMAN, YOU SOMETIMES SEE, ESPECIALLY ON MANY OUTFIELD THROWS FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE OUTFIELD, TAKING A THROW WHILE OUT AHEAD OF THE BASE, CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER CHANCE OF TAGGING OUT A BASE RUNNER, TRYING TO SLIDE INTO THIRD BASE. FOR ONE THING, YOU GET THE THROW FROM THE OUTFIELDER, OR CUT-OF-MAN, 1/2 OF A SECOND EARLIER. SECONDLY, SUCH A MOVE MIGHT BE A SURPRISE, A THIRD BASE COACH, OR THE BASERUNNER COMING IN, MAY NOT EXPECT, THIRDLY, IT MAY NEGATE ANY ATTEMPT BY THE BASERUNNER, SLIDING IN, TO "BLOCK" A THROWN BASEBALL, INTERFERRING WITH THE THIRD BASEMAN'S PATH TO CATCHING THE BASEBALL, AND THEN MAKING A CLEAN TAG.

  • @philmiller4961

    @philmiller4961

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dallasmuzikboy THE RULE MAY STILL HOLD FOR 3 FEET, WHEN A BASERUNNER IS TRYING TO AVOID A TAG PLAY, BUT, BUT, IN THE EARLY STAGES OF A PLAY, A BASERUNNER HAS THE RIGHT TO MOVE FURTHER OUT, TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN LINE OF ATTACK, WHEN MOVING TOWARDS A BASE. SAY YOU ARE ON SECOND (NO OUTS, NO ONE ON FIRST BASE), WITH A GOOD LEAD, A BALL IS HIT SHARPLY TO THE SHORTSTOP HOLE, SINCE YOUR BACK IS TO THE PLAY, AS YOU MOVE TO THIRD, MAKE A WIDE OUTSIDE TURN, TO MAYBE GET HIT BY A SHORTSTOP'S THROW TO THIRD, AN "UNINTENTIONAL" BLOCK OF THE BASEBALL, RIGHT? THAT CAN ALSO BLOCK THE THIRD BASEMAN'S SIGHT OF THE BASEBALL THROW, FROM THE SHORTSTOP, ALSO, "UNINTENTIONAL", BY YOU, THE BASERUNNER, BECAUSE, YOUR BACK IS TO THE PLAY. NOW, DO NOT LOOK BACK, OVER YOUR SHOULDER, ON SUCH A PLAY. WHAT YOU CAN NOT SEE, IN BASEBALL, YOU CAN NOT "INTENTIONALLY" BE TRYING TO BLOCK.

  • @alanhess9306

    @alanhess9306

    9 ай бұрын

    @@dallasmuzikboyThe runner's base path is established when a tag is attempted and is a straight line from his position to the base he is headed to. If he deviates more than 3 feet to avoid a tag, he is out. If no tag is being attempted, the runner can run wherever he wishes.

  • @ronpeacock9939
    @ronpeacock9939 Жыл бұрын

    Only thing to add.. for there to be an interference call, you would have to see the runner react to the throw and try to get into the path.. since he can't see the throw.. best he can do it guess... this is legal.. but if he saw where the throw was going and changed his path to intercept.. then you have INT... but since he does have the right to run the bases.. he can run where he maximizes his chances of getting in the way..

  • @oscarwinner2034

    @oscarwinner2034

    Жыл бұрын

    This happens all the time on a bunt and the runner runs inside for the same reason.

  • @ChefDuane
    @ChefDuane Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis from every perspective. What's amazing this that these guys calculate all this in a split second and just do it instinctively. Anyone who has played organized competitive baseball knows that pro baseball players aren't just really good, they are REALLY REEEAALLLYY good!!

  • @robertmaxwell3220

    @robertmaxwell3220

    9 ай бұрын

    Nope,not instinctive.Many hours ,years ,studying situation ball,but always thinking ahead

  • @ChefDuane

    @ChefDuane

    9 ай бұрын

    @@robertmaxwell3220 Lots of athletic instinct involved. Practice, yes. Situational study, yes. But also pure instinct.

  • @brianrheault1104
    @brianrheault11049 ай бұрын

    Another great job Matt of teaching the finer points of the game. The little things MATTER!

  • @tedszweb5268
    @tedszweb5268 Жыл бұрын

    It’s really good that you show a play like this. Showing inside knowledge to average fan. I’ve always coached that little things make a big difference in the end & baserunning is something that gets overlooked a lot . I had a day with Davey Lopes in the mid seventies when I played at Huntington Beach HS. We had an in with them in that Mark Cresse was an assistant coach at our school & he was starting his career with the Dodgers as a bullpen catcher& he would bring guests to our practices, Andy Messerschmidt was another Dodger to show up. I learned more about baserunning that one day than the rest of my time playing combined. 😀

  • @philmiller4961

    @philmiller4961

    Жыл бұрын

    WE KNEW MARK, THROUGH LARRY CAHN, A COACH IN LONG BEACH. WE TALKED TO HIM AT DODGER GAMES, WE SAT AT THE FOUL POLE, NEXT TO THE BULLPEN, IN "BAKERSFIELD" (DUSTY BAKER). I PLAYED SPORTS, AS AN OILER (COACH MOATS), THERE. AS A LITTLE LEAGUER, SEAL BEACH SEALS, MY DAD, OUR COACH, PRACTICED SITUATIONAL BASEBALL. WE HAD VARYING RUNNERS PUT ON VARYING BASES, VARIED THE SCORE, VARIED THE INNING, VARIED THE NUMBER OF OUTS. MY FATHER HIT THE BASEBALL, TO VARIOUS PLACES, ON THE FIELD, THE RUNNERS MOVED (WE KNEW THE FOOT SPEEDS OF ALL OUR RUNNERS), AND US LITTLE LEAUGERS, MADE THE BEST POSSIBLE PLAYS, STRATEGICALLY, WE THOUGHT WOULD BE BEST PLAYS. WE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT THE VARIOUS RULES, STRATEGY, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, THE INNING AND THE SCORE. WE WERE TAUGHT MANY OBSCURE RULES, AS WELL.

  • @daves536
    @daves536 Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown of this play. I know you were doing an "If there were other runners on base scenario".......but, we can easily deduce the bases are not loaded, otherwise the catcher has a force play at home and would not be applying a tag.

  • @jeradw7420

    @jeradw7420

    Жыл бұрын

    You're right in that it probably wasn't a forced out play but that doesn't mean the runner on third couldn't make the run home. There are other "runners on base" scenarios with the current batter lineup where running home makes sense. Also, this could even be a forced out situation given what is on the video. The catcher may have thought he was off the plate and it was quicker to make a tag than it would be to fumble blindly for the foot touch.

  • @dogpatch75
    @dogpatch7510 ай бұрын

    Its great to see this excellent explanation of the runner's base path and how the runner can use the rules to his advantage. It is amazing how many players, coaches, umpires, fans, and sports casters do not know the difference between the terms "base line" and "base path"! I laugh every time I hear someone commenting about a base runner running out of the "base line".

  • @tommygun4788
    @tommygun4788 Жыл бұрын

    These breakdowns are great. So many permutations you have to prepare for as a fielder (and runner) that adds nuance to the game that is easily missed if you only watch at the surface level. Even a routine 5-3 put out can look easy, but when you consider positioning when the balls hit, and that its like a 40 yard throw, and then the fielders throwing off the back foot and across the body, it's so much fun to watch!

  • @davidroman1654

    @davidroman1654

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree with everything you said about the play except this throw is maybe 25 yards since the 3rd baseman is on the infield grass when he throws the ball.

  • @tommygun4788

    @tommygun4788

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidroman1654 Oh I was just talking about a third to first throw. One hop down the line with a back hand snag to turn and throw out the runner is an incredibly athletic play, was using it just for an example. This play here was a another fun play to watch as a fan of course.

  • @TheFishdoctor1952
    @TheFishdoctor195210 ай бұрын

    After another year watching college baseball, it is amazing the difference in knowledge between college and pro ball. In college, the runner usually runs away from the catcher to avoid the tag.

  • @DebraJean196
    @DebraJean196 Жыл бұрын

    Nice in-depth analysis. Amazing how much thinking goes on in such a short period of time by each of the three players involved. Heads up play across the board, but poetry by the third baseman!

  • @taylorreesCA85
    @taylorreesCA85 Жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Antonelli talk baseball all day

  • @rayray4192

    @rayray4192

    Жыл бұрын

    He spouts some error so double check what he says vin regard to rules.

  • @WaxwingJohn
    @WaxwingJohn Жыл бұрын

    Did anyone mention that the catcher, seeing the third baseman moving toward the line, drew the baserunner further into fair territory, AWAY from his glove, creating the throwing lane just outside the foul line.

  • @WaxwingJohn

    @WaxwingJohn

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, I don't think the runner really had a chance unless he blocked the throw. You can see the catcher is standing on the plate, steps forward to catch the ball and then tags the runner well in front of him, probably 4 feet from the plate. The catcher and third baseman deked and worked around him perfectly.

  • @steves8860

    @steves8860

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't see that he ran toward the catcher's glove. Looks like he ran where he thought he'd be in between the fielder and the catcher, making the throw going to the left or right of the runner. I'd think after that was done, then you'd next be looking at his glove to try to get in the line of the throw. Left or right.

  • @kevinhenchy2957
    @kevinhenchy2957Ай бұрын

    Great explanation of the rule regarding the runner’s ‘baseline’ but 9 minutes is about 5 minutes more than you needed

  • @justthinkin5956

    @justthinkin5956

    17 күн бұрын

    Prep should be embarrassed by the length of this video; sounds more like a PVMHS grad.

  • @FunnelCake3348

    @FunnelCake3348

    12 күн бұрын

    Yeah he got better at lowering the time with his newer videos

  • @markburnham7512
    @markburnham7512 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis. I wish my team did things beside try for home runs.

  • @imdeplorable2241
    @imdeplorable22417 күн бұрын

    It had to be a "contact play" when I saw that Reynolds did not look back, but just went straight ahead full speed. Good video and explanation, Matt.👍👏

  • @kevindittler6524
    @kevindittler65244 күн бұрын

    Great breakdown, I was a catcher for many years and those were some of the toughest plays to work with really enjoyed seeing it from both perspectives!!

  • @imdeplorable2241
    @imdeplorable22419 ай бұрын

    An excellent description and diagnosis of that play. Well done, sir.👍

  • @briangreen2689
    @briangreen2689 Жыл бұрын

    Very instructive. Good stuff. Thanks for posting this.

  • @TheTruthseeker707
    @TheTruthseeker707 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. I played baseball until high school and watched a lot of baseball and never ever was I exposed to strategy like this. Looked real simple but way more involved than I expected. Good info man. God bless.

  • @mkwy8782

    @mkwy8782

    11 ай бұрын

    You had bad coaches :)

  • @robertmaxwell3220

    @robertmaxwell3220

    9 ай бұрын

    My best coach,a guy that had played with Manny Sangillian , would.give us an hour of verbal situation baseball after practice and windsprints.We went undefeated that year!😊

  • @cmacdhon
    @cmacdhon Жыл бұрын

    Oh man. I love watching professionals do their thing.

  • @MC-24

    @MC-24

    Жыл бұрын

    Word. Especially when you’re aware of the stratospheric levels above average at which the “average” professional plays. They’re so smooth (like 30,000 rep smooth) we delude ourselves into thinking it’s easy. Then we go out and take a routine two-hopper off our shoe top, wrist, elbow, and chin, then wing the ball 53mph into the parking lot somewhere in the neighboring zip code of 1B.

  • @kevinkirk4285
    @kevinkirk4285 Жыл бұрын

    I love this game. Easy to understand but very difficult to play on a high level. Awesome play.

  • @kenthompson6887

    @kenthompson6887

    Жыл бұрын

    There used to be a series of books called "So you think you know baseball". Almost everyone who read it realized that they did NOT know baseball rules very well. Baseball has by far the most complex set of rules - and less than 1/10 of 1% actually know them. I think the people who did not know this rule just assumed that because there is a running lane going to first, there must be a lane from third to home. This same situation happened on April 12 in the Braves/Reds game. The Braves announcers gave a correct explanation of the rule.

  • @BruceLinderDPT
    @BruceLinderDPT Жыл бұрын

    The third baseman, Steer, did a great job of after fielding the ball, then moving far to his right to open up a throwing lane to the catcher.

  • @DavidStep98
    @DavidStep988 ай бұрын

    This is the first video I've seen from you and you are on top of the whole situation. I played All-Army baseball in the early 90's and have umpired most of the time since then. So many people assume they know the rules of the game when they only know part of a rule. Just as a side note, I played catcher and am always interested in the mechanics of the catchers when I watch a video .

  • @marcstephens2100
    @marcstephens2100 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting topic with clear crisp teaching. Amazing! Subscribed!

  • @perrytilton5221
    @perrytilton5221 Жыл бұрын

    With the newer rule for blocking the plate, what is considered "giving the lane" if the runner is that far in?

  • @oscarwinner2034

    @oscarwinner2034

    Жыл бұрын

    You have to setup basically on the side of the plate then enter the lane when you have the ball. Typically the catcher will go in front of the plate as that's where the throws come from - and give a lane to the back side of the plate to the runner. Most runner who round third swing wide and come at the plate through the batter's box. This situation was different as the runner came so far to the front of the plate. But the runner still had access to the plate as you can see.

  • @truenorth2653
    @truenorth2653 Жыл бұрын

    I think Reynolds made a good call. Maybe cheated too far in, considering the catcher catches left or outside. Great breakdown.

  • @mkwy8782

    @mkwy8782

    11 ай бұрын

    He was supposed to be reading the catchers glove-he could have done better.

  • @user-bs9yr5nl9r
    @user-bs9yr5nl9r Жыл бұрын

    A great explanation of the play. There were multiple points to be made here and you ticked them all - nice job!

  • @phantomf4747
    @phantomf474719 күн бұрын

    Great explanation coach. I coached for 20+ years and didn't realize this.

  • @bucknuts8824
    @bucknuts8824 Жыл бұрын

    Spencer Steer gonna be a solid player in Cincinnati

  • @Joehammy77
    @Joehammy77 Жыл бұрын

    Question regarding plays to 2nd and 3rd..same situation or if bases loaded and it's a force play, does that effect the "base path" rule since there is no "tag" in effect

  • @auzmo

    @auzmo

    Жыл бұрын

    Base path only comes into play once the defender has the ball and is trying to attempt a tag.

  • @teebob21

    @teebob21

    Жыл бұрын

    No. Runners are free to choose their own path to a base until a fielder is in possession of the ball and a tag attempt is imminent. At that point, they are restricted to +/- 3 feet from a direct line from their position to the base.

  • @MikeHart72

    @MikeHart72

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no base path until the defender attempts to make a play on the runner. That’s when it’s created. The runner can go all the way to centre field if he wants if there was no attempt in him.

  • @Joehammy77

    @Joehammy77

    Жыл бұрын

    You are all not seeing what I asked..if no tag on the runner is necessary, i.e. force play, does this still apply

  • @mae2759

    @mae2759

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Joehammy77 No, it does not apply. "Out of the baseline" is only for avoiding a fielder trying to tag you. But remember on force plays, there's usually a force play slide rule you have to adhere to that doesn't exist in MLB. Also the veering into the throwing lane COULD be deemed intentional interference by the umpire, but most likely will not be called.

  • @mitchfelding2661
    @mitchfelding2661 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent comments by Antonelli. He explains this brilliantly for anyone to understand.

  • @mattappleton3399
    @mattappleton3399Ай бұрын

    Can we just acknowledge the greatness of how confident that snag was by the 3rd baseman? That shit was beautiful.

  • @krr104
    @krr104 Жыл бұрын

    This is why baseball is the greatest sport to watch. You spent 9 minutes breaking down a play that took maybe 3 seconds to complete. What seems so simple is actually so complex. The fielders have an endless possibility of scenarios, but have to react instantly and know exactly what to do. There’s no time to survey the field and decide. You can’t choose to give the ball to your best player. You can’t run out the clock. Best sport there is.

  • @yourguidetorights3909
    @yourguidetorights39097 күн бұрын

    Great explanation of this play. Thanks.

  • @garymorris1856
    @garymorris185611 ай бұрын

    You analyzed this play very thoroughly, well done, sir.

  • @SgtJoeSmith
    @SgtJoeSmith Жыл бұрын

    bro wouldve beat throw if he didnt add 3 steps by running to mound 1st.

  • @teebob21
    @teebob21 Жыл бұрын

    The number of baseball fans and former players who STILL do not understand the basepath rule after all these decades is depressing.

  • @DAatDA

    @DAatDA

    Жыл бұрын

    You're such an expert that this is depressing. Must be tough having all your knowledge

  • @emersondeta6804

    @emersondeta6804

    Жыл бұрын

    Y hi is was a very redundant video but I guess it’s toll needed? 😢 oh well moving on

  • @teebob21

    @teebob21

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DAatDA I'm reminded of that "Fools rush in..." proverb. I love how the morons and ignorant people in this site self-identify, so that we don't have to discern how little they know by the context of their commentary.

  • @rayray4192

    @rayray4192

    Жыл бұрын

    @@teebob21 Elvis Presley song. Music by Rube Bloom and lyrics by the great Johnny Mercer. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Ignorant simpletons are intimidated by people with knowledge

  • @rayray4192

    @rayray4192

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DAatDA you are embarrassing yourself.

  • @robertplank6284
    @robertplank62849 ай бұрын

    Wow! More of these breakdowns please! So much I didn't know.

  • @techguy9999
    @techguy99998 ай бұрын

    very well explained sir - thank you

  • @rickjason215
    @rickjason215 Жыл бұрын

    Reynolds ran an extra 3 feet by going so far inside the line. If he stays on the line the catcher has to come out in front of the plate to receive the throw and come back to make the tag. Reynolds is probably safe.

  • @FadkinsDiet

    @FadkinsDiet

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you're right, but Reynolds followed his training and tried to take away the angle. It didn't work out this time, but in many situations it would be better.

  • @MikeDCWeld

    @MikeDCWeld

    Жыл бұрын

    Staying on or just outside the line also increases the chances of being able to sneak a hand or foot in ahead of the tag on the slide.

  • @nicholastrudeau7581

    @nicholastrudeau7581

    Жыл бұрын

    True, it comes down to whether you want to make more work for the fielder or the catcher, and since the fielder made it clear that choosing the former didn't work, then yeah! But hindsight is 20/20.

  • @densnow4816

    @densnow4816

    Жыл бұрын

    Reynolds made a great play. He is out because the hitter hit the ball to absolutely the worst place he could. Just bad luck.

  • @legendhavok1723

    @legendhavok1723

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t think so, when the ball was caught he was still nearly 2 full strides away from home, even straight lining it the whole way wouldn’t account for that

  • @markyuen2312
    @markyuen2312 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Ant. Has anybody told you that you sort of sound like Vin Scully??

  • @emerald3331

    @emerald3331

    Жыл бұрын

    You may need to get your ears checked

  • @zhuzhou

    @zhuzhou

    Жыл бұрын

    I hear it too!

  • @Ybor-ld6uq
    @Ybor-ld6uq Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown of a tough play👍

  • @user-se7lx6cq6m
    @user-se7lx6cq6mАй бұрын

    Thank you. Great explanation.

  • @georgestevens1502
    @georgestevens1502 Жыл бұрын

    The play was very close as is. If he ran straight from contact he might have beat the tag. He took the longest route.

  • @EB-bl6cc

    @EB-bl6cc

    Жыл бұрын

    that's what I was thinking. He was so focused on getting in the way of the throwing path that he increased his route by like 20-30%

  • @michaellee4276
    @michaellee4276 Жыл бұрын

    Reynolds added a lot of distance to his path by curving so far inward. If he had run straight, he would have gotten to the plate sooner.

  • @dirty_mac

    @dirty_mac

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really. He was at most 6 feet from the basepath, so assuming the straight line is 80 feet and using Pythagoras, if you assume he got 6 feet away at the midpoint it adds less than 1 foot of extra distance.

  • @EdwardCurrent

    @EdwardCurrent

    Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps. Let's say he cut inside by 6 feet at the farthest, and (roughly) 15 feet from the plate he cut back in and ran straight for the plate. That's an extra distance of about 1.4 feet, or about 17 inches (calculated by drawing two right triangles and doing the Pythagorean theorem on each). His path will be a bit longer if he takes a more natural curved path, but then again, it looks like he cut inside only about 4 feet, so the true length was probably close to 1.4 feet, or even less. If he's running 20 feet per second, it costs him about 70 milliseconds. If the off-balance throw is 70 mph, the ball passes him about 7 feet farther away from the plate than it would if he ran straight. (Yes, I do have too much free time.)

  • @cesarvargasdesign

    @cesarvargasdesign

    Жыл бұрын

    I hear yall. But in this play, he might have known that he had a better chance of being safe if he crossed over the lane to make the throw more difficult for the 3rd Baseman. But the 3rd baseman made a hell of a throw, so much props for that. I guess its one of those plays where you take the gamble?

  • @wimpymcsteel4458

    @wimpymcsteel4458

    Жыл бұрын

    By a fraction of a second, yes. But by blocking the thrower, he forces the 3rd baseman to alter his throw, which buys him far more time than he loses.

  • @dblair1258
    @dblair1258 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info!

  • @DoahnKea_Tuber
    @DoahnKea_Tuber Жыл бұрын

    Love This! Thank You!!

  • @r3d5ive87
    @r3d5ive87 Жыл бұрын

    This is a lot more effective at creating a fan than a damn pitch clock

  • @unclestinky6388
    @unclestinky6388 Жыл бұрын

    Rule 7.08 says: "Any runner is out when - (b) intentionally interferes with a thrown ball;" One could make the case that the runner intentionally interfered with that throw. I think running that obviously out of a straight line is inviting an interference call. Which is probably worth it on that play since the ball was clearly going to beat the runner. But might not be worth it in a less obvious situation.

  • @teebob21

    @teebob21

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope, not under current interpretations of the definition of interference. Intentional interference requires an act. The runner is free to choose his basepath between bases, provided that there is no fielder in possession of the ball between the runner and the base to which they are advancing.

  • @gscurd75

    @gscurd75

    Жыл бұрын

    @@teebob21 Intentionally running that far out of the shortest path to home could be construed as an act.

  • @teebob21

    @teebob21

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gscurd75 Not by any competent umpire, it wouldn't. The path was chosen before the ball was thrown. The runner committed no intentional act to interfere with the thrown ball itself. You're right that the path to the base was chosen intentionally to make the throw more difficult, but that in itself is not illegal.

  • @williammaddock9179

    @williammaddock9179

    Жыл бұрын

    @@teebob21 The 3rd base umpire signaled the runner out of the lane.

  • @teebob21

    @teebob21

    Жыл бұрын

    @@williammaddock9179 LMAO no he didn't. He signaled a fair ball.

  • @FunnyMoneyMusic1
    @FunnyMoneyMusic1Ай бұрын

    What great commentary. Very educational. Thanks for this super content.

  • @randylevin587
    @randylevin5879 ай бұрын

    Excellent explanation making it easy for even me to understand 👏

  • @berniekirk1397
    @berniekirk139711 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the analysis and rule explanation. I would have thought he was out of the running lane and called him out, you reading the rule changed my mind.

  • @MattsBaseballWorld
    @MattsBaseballWorld Жыл бұрын

    Great description, as always!!

  • @Juice_2288
    @Juice_22882 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the breakdown. Good job as always.

  • @cedricgist7614
    @cedricgist7614Ай бұрын

    As always, good video and great knowledge shared, Matt. Your analysis reminds me of a question posed when I was learning to drive: "Do lines make lanes - or do spaces make lanes?" Of course, the answer is, "Spaces make lanes." Depending on the conditions or situation, you may need to disregard the lane markings to get where you're going - like in snow, or heavy rain with poor visibility, or some obstruction ahead. Didn't mean to give a driving lesson. I didn't play long enough to learn these small details that can mean the difference between winning and losing. Hell, I was just learning positioning for the cut-off man when I was cut for the fourth time trying out for my high school team. I don't follow you as closely as I did a few years ago - yet I'm happy to get your videos in my queue and give you a "like" because your content is outstanding.

  • @mindbomb2000
    @mindbomb2000 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video. I've been playing/watching baseball since I was 5 and didn't fully understand this rule until now.

  • @Kent-gd9gm
    @Kent-gd9gm8 күн бұрын

    Excellent explanation. Love little things that mean so much.

  • @Smithlandia
    @Smithlandia Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic analysis. I love this kind of stuff and it appears so do many others! New subscriber...glad I found your channel.

  • @BobHutton
    @BobHutton2 күн бұрын

    In cricket it's the other way around. The runner is required to run in a straight line unless there is a fielder in their way, although there is no tagging of the runner in cricket. USA is about to host a Cricket World Cup (starting June 2024). You might like to watch a few matches to see the similarities and differences. I said "a" World Cup because, with cricket, there are 3 different types of World Cup. USA is getting the shortest (and arguably moat accessible) version of the game.

  • @Emanemoston
    @Emanemoston Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video.

  • @malcolmfield6677
    @malcolmfield667727 күн бұрын

    Love this discussion!

  • @throne1797
    @throne1797 Жыл бұрын

    THIS is exactly why baseball is such a complex game to play, coach and watch. Any why so many fans have no idea of its complexity.

  • @jjyemg2397
    @jjyemg2397 Жыл бұрын

    Nice job explaining running path rules and you are right on! Gary Cohen during Mets broadcast late April did a nice job explaining it also.

  • @billybot01
    @billybot01Ай бұрын

    I never knew about the running lane starting after tag attempt. That is great information. Good breakout.

  • @alanhess9306

    @alanhess9306

    Ай бұрын

    Not the running lane, the runner's base path is established when a tag is attempted.

  • @johndavidtackett
    @johndavidtackett10 ай бұрын

    So many possibilities as to why you run on this one, was a good risk but 3rd made a great play in order to get this out.

  • @johnivkovich8655
    @johnivkovich8655 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for this explanation

  • @amazinghondo9416
    @amazinghondo9416Ай бұрын

    Excellent analysis. I would add one more. The runner at 3rd appears to have a lead off well short of the distance the 3rd baseman is from the base. Had he maximized his lead off and been leaning toward home at contact (along with an immediate jump) he’d have been safe. I learned this playing for MN State Legion champions alongside HOFer Dave Winfield. Paul Molitor also played for the same coach Billy Peterson. Billy taught us that the little things made the biggest difference in winning close games. I’ll be sending your link and analysis for his review. He’s a very young 83 right now. I’m guessing he would add that the runner could have ran straight to the plate shortening the distance. And that since catchers no longer can block the plate without the ball, a head first slide would also have been best. Your thoughts? Keep up the great work here! PS. Our Legion team was Attucks-Brooks in St Paul, MN. Side note: Winfield, Molitor, Jack Morris and newest HOFer Joe Mauer all grew up within a 4 mile radius. Pretty amazing given the shortness of our baseball seasons.

  • @thomasgorman1535
    @thomasgorman1535Ай бұрын

    Good explanation.

  • @cornflakeusa
    @cornflakeusa Жыл бұрын

    Explained well, good job.

  • @LynnDavidNewton
    @LynnDavidNewton Жыл бұрын

    Informative, didn't know that. Thank you.

  • @verkuilb
    @verkuilbАй бұрын

    @2:02 When you said that if the ball hits the runner in foul territory, it’s a foul ball; but if it hits them in fair territory, they’re out-for any viewer who is unfamiliar with the rule, it would have been helpful to specify that applies to a BATTED ball, not to a THROWN ball.

  • @abrahamornelas160
    @abrahamornelas160 Жыл бұрын

    Throwing at this angle is game played is all the game. Played solid.

  • @timothyodonnell8591
    @timothyodonnell8591 Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown!

  • @rza2385
    @rza2385 Жыл бұрын

    That's great work all around....including the breakdown... I learned from a lotta old school real deal baseball guys... we always put the pressure pm the d.. always looked for tbe extra base...steal all ya could... suicide squeeze.. straight steals at home... good times...an I think without the shift baseball will again have to implement some small bsll... great viddo.

  • @jcarter8765
    @jcarter8765 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic break down.

  • @thomasritter1503
    @thomasritter1503Ай бұрын

    I was taught to follow the fielders glove AND feet, the brain of the player will naturally obscure the throwing lane, forcing the thrower to throw to one side or the other of the fielder. What you're trying to accomplish is not an easy play, a toss to either side means to make the tag the fielder has to "swipe" and this split second may mean the difference between being safe or out on the play.

  • @Daddybernardo
    @Daddybernardo Жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal analysis

  • @brianmccully3040
    @brianmccully3040Ай бұрын

    The art of baseball broken down perfectly.

  • @theathletearchives
    @theathletearchives Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown

  • @martinlynn3699
    @martinlynn3699Ай бұрын

    Friggin' awesome play. Thats real baseball.

  • @danricci7855
    @danricci7855Ай бұрын

    excellent video.

  • @PBLeagues22
    @PBLeagues22 Жыл бұрын

    Great baseball play

  • @wendydelisse9778
    @wendydelisse97782 ай бұрын

    In hindsight, the best path for the runner from 3rd base would have been the actual baseline. The 3rd baseman was throwing right handed, and the catcher's mitt was on the catcher's left hand, bringing the natural throwing path of the baseball in this particular case very close to the baseline, even though the 3rd baseman fielded the ball while positioned about 4 or so feet into fair territory. The baseline running path would have been straighter and slightly shorter for the runner, and the catcher would have had to make a longer swipe to make what could have then been a tag slightly into foul territory from where the catcher positioned himself in fair territory. If the 3rd baseman had fielded the ball while positioned 4 feet further into fair territory, then the runner's path at the 3-foot limit into fair territory would have been the correct path to take from the point of view of attempting to obstruct the 3rd baseman's throw without breaking the baserunning rules. Maybe going to the far left of the 6 foot wide running lane was what some people meant when they said that the baserunner made a "bad read". There are some situations where a straighter path is better for a faster time to reach a base or home plate, and there some other situations where a less straight and therefore usually slightly slower path is better in order to improve the chances of obstructing a throw. Part of the blame might go to the baserunning coaching. It is possible that the baserunning coaching staff on that team mildly overfavored a baserunning approach of running in order to achieve a throw obstruction objective. The baserunning coaching staffs on other teams could potentially use this film for situational training of their baserunners, on how to better read handedness and ball fielding position of the other team in order to determine a best chance running path. The running lane is officially 6 feet wide, and often enough, the actual running path that the baserunner chooses makes the difference between being tagged or forced out versus reaching the next base safely or reaching home plate safely.

  • @Cigarsnguitars
    @Cigarsnguitars10 ай бұрын

    Great explanation of the rule. Runner determines the base path.

  • @krizington85
    @krizington85 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis...gotta love the game. 👍

  • @vitesse_arnhem

    @vitesse_arnhem

    Жыл бұрын

    Manfred is trying his best to ruin the game with Leftist rules like pitch clocks and larger bases

  • @philmiller4961
    @philmiller4961 Жыл бұрын

    I ALWAYS LOVED THE INTRICACIES OF BASBALL. ONCE, WITH BASES LOADED, I WAS AT FIRST BASE, OUR PITCHER MADE A WILD PITCH, SO I PUSHED OFF OF FIRST BASE, TO BACK UP A THROW, IF ONE CAME, TO THE PITCHER, COVERING HOME PLATE, AN OVERTHROW BY THE CATCHER, AT HOME. THERE WAS AN ERRANT THROW, I BACKED UP THE PLAY, GOT THE BASEBALL, WE ALMOST TAGGED OUT THE NEXT RUNNER, AT THIRD, AS HE ROUNDED THIRD BASE, THINKING HE COULD SCORE, ON THAT ERRANT THROW AT HOME. I WAS SO PROUD, I INSTINCTUALLY COVERED THE POSSIBLE POOR PLAY OR POOR THROW AT HOME PLATE.👍

  • @chaosawaits
    @chaosawaits10 ай бұрын

    So many great drills for Little Leaguers from this one play: 1. Running to the glove in tag situations 2. Establishing leads off basepaths in foul territory 3. Running to first base in the runner's lane 4. Catcher set-ups for tags at home 5. Groundball attack by infielders

  • @elementrypenguin3116
    @elementrypenguin3116 Жыл бұрын

    Great observation on a baseball play nobody really breaks down. Very good

  • @jaydlightning2015
    @jaydlightning2015 Жыл бұрын

    This guy knows baseball!

  • @KevinLowe
    @KevinLowe10 ай бұрын

    And, of course, everything in baseball happens so quickly. Split-second decisions. It's a beautiful game.

  • @udrinkit
    @udrinkit13 күн бұрын

    Nice breakdown.

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