DID YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ROGUE FROM X-MEN '97?

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  • @kayboy6055
    @kayboy60552 ай бұрын

    People underestimate how iconic and influential Grace Jones entire persona was back in the day. She literally was the first woman really shaped like a superhero. Like the proportions of a superhero. On a woman.

  • @LuoSon312_G8

    @LuoSon312_G8

    2 ай бұрын

    so, all the haters and "inclusive advocates" are insulting one of the most iconic females in media?

  • @lonew2657

    @lonew2657

    2 ай бұрын

    So you're telling me that Rogue is modeled after a black woman and yet Rogue has no @$$ now.

  • @fufutm2891

    @fufutm2891

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lonew2657i mean blame that on disney plus ,in the og cartoon she did lol

  • @ReviewRoomie

    @ReviewRoomie

    2 ай бұрын

    I grew up watching Grace Jones...she was before her time. Tall, stunning and unapologetically avant-garde. She used to date Dolph Lundgren and they looked beautiful together, even giving him his big break in HER vehicle, A View To A Kill. Edit: Without her, we may never have had our live action He-Man😂

  • @Frimzeey

    @Frimzeey

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@lonew2657 you do realize everything isn't about sexualizing a character, right? Lol, what's wrong with a character just being likable and written well? If you're looking for eye-candy, Google is a free service.

  • @robyeone7976
    @robyeone79762 ай бұрын

    So, Grace Jones was the inspiration for several NON-BLACK X-Men Characters. 😅

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    It's funny how that kept happening 😅

  • @rizzo4d901

    @rizzo4d901

    2 ай бұрын

    Well the civil rights movement inspired the whole thing🤷‍♀️

  • @epcarter6

    @epcarter6

    2 ай бұрын

    You can’t make this up lol

  • @trealsteve

    @trealsteve

    2 ай бұрын

    We’re always inspiring, but never thriving.

  • @blazeazurin

    @blazeazurin

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@trealsteve My guy they're turning almost every original white character black now tf u mean

  • @serenityq26
    @serenityq262 ай бұрын

    All 70s xmen writers love grace jones cause they also wanted dazzler to look like grace jones

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I didn't know that about Dazzler! Another short idea. Thanks!

  • @biguy617

    @biguy617

    2 ай бұрын

    Where are you getting this SJW garbage from?

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    @@biguy617 You need help.

  • @kobi7955

    @kobi7955

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@biguy617You're an odd individual mate

  • @JOVONO

    @JOVONO

    2 ай бұрын

    @@biguy617maybe the creators saying this??

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el2 ай бұрын

    Grace Jones was a badass in the 80s

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed, she was!

  • @Dopecheetah

    @Dopecheetah

    2 ай бұрын

    She still is. She just an old badass now.

  • @leeharrison8222

    @leeharrison8222

    2 ай бұрын

    Honey, Grace Jones is STILL a badass!

  • @tanakinskywalker7089

    @tanakinskywalker7089

    2 ай бұрын

    No she wasnt

  • @justcoolin3384

    @justcoolin3384

    2 ай бұрын

    I always think of her scene in Boomerang at the restaurant when her name is mentioned.😂

  • @ligeiasiren4290
    @ligeiasiren42902 ай бұрын

    IMO Storm's punk look was also inspired by Grace Jones' androgynous look.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I can see that! Storm's punk look is my favorite. I actually did a short on that a week ago.

  • @coolraul07

    @coolraul07

    2 ай бұрын

    Beat me to it...

  • @Haramu-Fal0

    @Haramu-Fal0

    2 ай бұрын

    Her sorceress look is way better IMO

  • @utteero

    @utteero

    2 ай бұрын

    I always hated the punk look. The classic made her look feminine.

  • @Mari_Izu

    @Mari_Izu

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@utteero The punk look is as classic as what you call classic, and she's a super hero, she should look badass, not cater to your medieval beauty standards.

  • @ppinmouth2649
    @ppinmouth26492 ай бұрын

    "But" at the end was nice😂

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you! It makes a nice loop at the end. Need to find more butts for my shorts 😅

  • @GorillaWhale

    @GorillaWhale

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjhermanbutts and shorts are always a winning combination 😅

  • @roadwarrior52

    @roadwarrior52

    2 ай бұрын

    I came to the comments for this comment

  • @brickfilm2103

    @brickfilm2103

    2 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @crnkmnky

    @crnkmnky

    2 ай бұрын

    I completely missed the visual reference for that line, until reading this. 🤦🏿

  • @jravage77
    @jravage772 ай бұрын

    I always figured Grace Jones inspired 80's 90s Storm.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    She did as well.

  • @jravage77

    @jravage77

    2 ай бұрын

    @Ironmaninfinite I said 80s and 90s Storm not 70s.

  • @el-sig2249

    @el-sig2249

    Ай бұрын

    And for the that was the only character that reminded me of Grace Jones.

  • @mianfierro4773

    @mianfierro4773

    Ай бұрын

    Iman looks more like Storm.

  • @tuckerbowen4626
    @tuckerbowen46262 ай бұрын

    Wait, so Rogue AND Dazzler were both modeled after Grace Jones?

  • @PaladinodoCerradooficial

    @PaladinodoCerradooficial

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah! That why both can be blackwoman in movies for me.

  • @BigDapPacino

    @BigDapPacino

    2 ай бұрын

    Dazzler was probably based on Olivia Newton John or one of the female singers from ABBA in my opinion!

  • @Forcopuon

    @Forcopuon

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BigDapPacinoshe was also based off of grace too but her official appearance look probably was based off of them

  • @nadrolobtheorcwench6342

    @nadrolobtheorcwench6342

    2 ай бұрын

    The character ' Huntara" from the original/ authentic/ real , She-Ra princess of Power syndicate was also based on Grace Jones

  • @OpinionParade

    @OpinionParade

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@PaladinodoCerradooficial Congratulations on an incredibly stupid comment/sentiment.

  • @JOVONO
    @JOVONO2 ай бұрын

    Another X-Men that has a odd history with race is Bishop the creator of the character wanted to have him be Filipino because he was however Marvel came to him saying they wanted a new African American character so he made Bishop African American however later it’s implied Bishop is actually Australian Aboriginal with the character Gateway being his great-grandfather however then it’s also been implied that Storm might be his grandmother So he potentially part African part Aboriginal but was originally intended to be Filipino-American

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Wow! Thanks for the information on Bishop. I never knew that. That would be great for a future short!

  • @Elektrikkiss

    @Elektrikkiss

    2 ай бұрын

    Just because his great grandfather is aboriginal doesn't mean he can't be African American lol

  • @genevieve7676

    @genevieve7676

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@ElektrikkissI personally headcanon Bishop as being both African and Aboriginal descent and that Shard, his sister, is blond because some Aboriginal people have blond hair.

  • @massivemedia4138

    @massivemedia4138

    2 ай бұрын

    I actually meet Whilce Portacio as a teen and he never mentioned that Bishop was supposed to be as he is a Filipino American. However he did mention that Bishop was his favorite character that he ever created. He also explained that he thought about Gateway being his family to help explain the time travel but he ultimately said Bishop was supposed to be Onslaught as at the time he was the newest Xman his power allowed him to absorb energy and the energy signature that took out Jean grey in the message was Bishops energy signature.. However same as Cable Bishop just became a popular character so they kept him a good guy.

  • @solblackguy

    @solblackguy

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@genevieve7676 he's basically First Nation Aboriginal

  • @leol2926
    @leol29262 ай бұрын

    Grace Jones was like 60% of all X-Men. Makes sense

  • @aboogie797

    @aboogie797

    2 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @B_addie

    @B_addie

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s such an odd dynamic!!! Like the creators said she was the inspiration, the comics gradually made the characters look less like their original designs, and then the fans took it further by making them look even less like the original designs but then get mad at black cosplayers for actually looking like Grace Jones…

  • @leol2926

    @leol2926

    2 ай бұрын

    @@B_addie I think that is just people being rude to black people for any reason they can think of.

  • @The_Bigot

    @The_Bigot

    Ай бұрын

    @@B_addiedid Stan lee or jack Kirby say that? Because I’m pretty sure they never did and this is all shit that other people are saying that they said.

  • @clickpause8732

    @clickpause8732

    Ай бұрын

    @@The_Bigotusername feels… oddly appropriate here, I just can’t pin down why

  • @elizel90
    @elizel902 ай бұрын

    If only they made Rouge look this strong and badass in the films

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I hope they make her like this when she makes her debut in the MCU

  • @Nula7

    @Nula7

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman i wonder when this day will come!!!

  • @detectivebrown6211

    @detectivebrown6211

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean I wouldn't call that outdated look and funny hair "stong" and "badass." She looks way better now

  • @meccamitchell6481

    @meccamitchell6481

    Ай бұрын

    I know right

  • @Swerv0.

    @Swerv0.

    Ай бұрын

    @@detectivebrown6211sorry but no. Animated rouge is peak rouge. We got enough female heroes with movie rouge mannerisms.

  • @Random-Man1384
    @Random-Man13842 ай бұрын

    Let's all be honest...we had a crush on rogue when we were young😅

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely! 😆

  • @elementalsigil

    @elementalsigil

    2 ай бұрын

    She was my teenage heart throb

  • @jaydubb2092

    @jaydubb2092

    2 ай бұрын

    Hey! Dont speak for me!😂 Storm was my main (shyt, still is!)....Rogue was my side

  • @sneakernickel

    @sneakernickel

    2 ай бұрын

    She had the curves. Her belt hung off of her. She had a sexy raspy voice, and she was horny AF flirting with even bad guys. Made my tummy feel funny when I was littlee

  • @tonyt1680

    @tonyt1680

    2 ай бұрын

    Storm for me!

  • @minicle426
    @minicle4262 ай бұрын

    Fun fact. Rogue's turn towards becoming a hero in the comics was a result of trying to absorb (licensed character) Rom the Spaceknight's powers, gaining some of his personality traits in the process.

  • @bri55118

    @bri55118

    2 ай бұрын

    Rom issue 32. That was a very freaky story.

  • @stevenstygles

    @stevenstygles

    2 ай бұрын

    Rom was the best toy inspired comic book. Would love a movie about the space knight

  • @WannabeWryter

    @WannabeWryter

    2 ай бұрын

    I thought that was ms. marvel's influence on her.

  • @earlr2992

    @earlr2992

    2 ай бұрын

    They failed to mention that Rogue's flight and super strength come form the fact that Rogue absorbed Captain Marvel's powers and put her in a coma. Now Captain Marvel's consciousness is in Rogues mind while Captain Marvel is in the hospital in a coma.

  • @Loralanthalas

    @Loralanthalas

    2 ай бұрын

    I dint remember Rouge being honorable.

  • @anibalsanchez1726
    @anibalsanchez17262 ай бұрын

    That was her signature air roll kick in X- MEN VS. STREET FIGHTER.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    That's right! So glad they included it in the series

  • @PaladinodoCerradooficial

    @PaladinodoCerradooficial

    2 ай бұрын

    Its a Rider Kick from Kamen Rider series.

  • @galactichand551

    @galactichand551

    2 ай бұрын

    Her air-roll kick is included in both the original animated series and this iteration, too.

  • @CHRISFREE84

    @CHRISFREE84

    2 ай бұрын

    Wh​at show @@chrisjherman

  • @NinjaAimless
    @NinjaAimless2 ай бұрын

    Yo I wanna salute whoever was responsible for giving Rogue that Rider Kick 😂. GOD it was Magnificent😌

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    That was such an awesome moment. I had to include it in the short 😃

  • @NinjaAimless

    @NinjaAimless

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman Definitely man!!! That’s was some good stuff.

  • @coolraul07

    @coolraul07

    2 ай бұрын

    DYNAMIC.. ENTRY-YYYYYYYYY!

  • @apollolux

    @apollolux

    2 ай бұрын

    Capcom was responsible. Their Marvel fighting games in the '90s were legendary.

  • @NinjaAimless

    @NinjaAimless

    2 ай бұрын

    @@coolraul07 I’m so upset I didn’t think about that lol 😂

  • @jorgehernandez4098
    @jorgehernandez40982 ай бұрын

    Her original design had Grace Jones haircut too.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I should have included that in the short. Thanks for letting me know!

  • @detectivebrown6211

    @detectivebrown6211

    2 ай бұрын

    "Too" No. The actors style was used as a reference. Not the actor herself. The hair and manish look was THE inspiration taken

  • @keromora

    @keromora

    Ай бұрын

    @@detectivebrown6211they had the same haircut hence she had her haircut. When someone says you have your mothers eyes, they usually don’t mean you physically wrenched them from her body.

  • @themarlboromandalorian
    @themarlboromandalorian2 ай бұрын

    Fun fact. The original rogue from the comics actually has a magnificently proportioned posterior.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I gotta do a short just on comic book butts 😅

  • @themarlboromandalorian

    @themarlboromandalorian

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman I'd watch it. #gotdatwagon

  • @maximilianobartomucci6044

    @maximilianobartomucci6044

    2 ай бұрын

    In her very first appearance in Avengers Annual 10, she looked like an emaciated 50 year old woman, she got some major improvements through the years.

  • @JoshuaJWhiteMusic
    @JoshuaJWhiteMusic2 ай бұрын

    ✊🏾😫I love how these comment sections -i learn so much from the true fans & nerds -XMEN FOR LIFE BABY!

  • @austinkruger290

    @austinkruger290

    Ай бұрын

    In 1977 Jones secured her first record deal resulting in a string of dance-club hits including "I Need A Man"

  • @austinkruger290

    @austinkruger290

    Ай бұрын

    10 years after creation... This is just glazing to try and get more watchers

  • @sergioramirez8781
    @sergioramirez87812 ай бұрын

    Like he says but then show Rouge's butt 😂

  • @meheecan123

    @meheecan123

    2 ай бұрын

    😎

  • @The_Notorious_N.O.E.

    @The_Notorious_N.O.E.

    2 ай бұрын

    🍑 She is a Southern peach after all 😉👍

  • @LeChevalierduLys

    @LeChevalierduLys

    2 ай бұрын

    ROGUE !!!!!!

  • @JoshuaJWhiteMusic

    @JoshuaJWhiteMusic

    2 ай бұрын

    🖐🏾😂I peeped that!

  • @ReparationsNation

    @ReparationsNation

    2 ай бұрын

    @@The_Notorious_N.O.E., southern ain’t got shit to do w it. White woman can have a nice, fat ass but, it’s NO THING compared to that of a Black woman.

  • @Umgumby
    @Umgumby2 ай бұрын

    Lmao “Butt”

  • @jennevailoces5367
    @jennevailoces53672 ай бұрын

    grAce jones shoulda beeen STORM!

  • @cryospiral

    @cryospiral

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely! A young Grace Jones would have been the perfect storm, pun intended.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    That would have been cool!

  • @nullvoid8941

    @nullvoid8941

    2 ай бұрын

    Kiki palmer will rectify this

  • @dominiquedevereux7205

    @dominiquedevereux7205

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@nullvoid8941Actually, last year, people were coming for KeKe on social media cuz she put up pictures of her face over Rogue's body saying she'd love to play her & people *AHEM --- WHITE PEOPLE * accused her of trying to "woke" Rogue up. If they could only see this. I'm sure all you'd hear is 🦗🦗🦗🦗

  • @BCDC123

    @BCDC123

    2 ай бұрын

    Eh, Angela Bassett would have been peak casting.

  • @edward0383
    @edward03832 ай бұрын

    That "BUT..." was timed 👌 in 😂😂😂😂

  • @juggernaut83

    @juggernaut83

    2 ай бұрын

    Timed to perfection whilst showing that Iconic bubble bu** 👏🏾👏🏾😂

  • @thiskid990
    @thiskid990Ай бұрын

    Grace Jones is so iconic as a model. Shes probably the inspiration for a lot of different characters. She totally epitomizes that 80s/90s badass look for me

  • @fabooshka
    @fabooshka2 ай бұрын

    I do like the idea of rogue being a southern black girl raised in a strict no-nonsense family, it just fits. Explains her not fitting in because she wants to explore different desires that are taboo in her culture... But I like her current version just fine

  • @grandinquizitor7412
    @grandinquizitor74122 ай бұрын

    The artists need to give Rogue her voluptuous curves back. She was originally supposed to be irresistibly beautiful and sadly untouchable.

  • @lordterra1377

    @lordterra1377

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank Wokeness and Sweetbaby for that.

  • @RICHbeGROUNDED
    @RICHbeGROUNDED2 ай бұрын

    It's amazing how inspiring and monumental black people have been to sooo many things

  • @adrian_5174
    @adrian_51742 ай бұрын

    Well played ending..."but" 😂

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I need to find more X-Men butts for these endings 😆

  • @larrygraham4875
    @larrygraham48752 ай бұрын

    In 92 i was 12. Dat assss on Rogue. The show was so good ❤❤

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    It's a great show! Check out X-Men 97 when you have the time

  • @waynegruber9122

    @waynegruber9122

    2 ай бұрын

    Gosh the Xmen 92 cartoon on fox kids i was 10 in 92. The Phoenix Saga was my favorite storyline. I cant watch it nowhere unless i get the Disney plus app.

  • @dominiquedevereux7205
    @dominiquedevereux72052 ай бұрын

    And 2 think just last year on Twitter, a certain "group 🙎🏼🙎🏻‍♀️* of people were GOING IN on actress Keke Palmer, accusing her of trying to make Rogue "woke" & ✌🏾stealing✌🏾1 of their beloved icons when she superimposed her face over Rogue's saying she'd love to play her in a movie. The IRONY 😑.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm not a big Keke Palmer fan, but I'm curious who they'll cast for the MCU X-Men

  • @dominiquedevereux7205

    @dominiquedevereux7205

    2 ай бұрын

    @chrisjherman Yeah. I'm not a fan either, but it just tickled me how many "people" of a certain demographic got mad at her even expressing interest in the role as a black woman, not knowing the intended history of the character's creation.

  • @JohnSmith-xg9wx

    @JohnSmith-xg9wx

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@chrisjherman I don't doubt for one second that Keke could bring Rogue's signature sass to life and she looked great in the photoshopped pics as Rogue.

  • @phonicrose8395

    @phonicrose8395

    2 ай бұрын

    Just because her design in concept was inspired by a black woman. Doesn't mean the character should be played by a black woman. Rogue is a white woman, changing her race is racist and woke. Or are you saying any Black Fairy character is not allowed to exist?

  • @coreydorsey4121

    @coreydorsey4121

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@phonicrose8395 Unless along with being played by a black character they also make the focus about black issues, thete is no "woke" really involved. Please learn how to have more nuanced ways of seeing things. Also, to this day I hate how "woke" was hijacked a few years ago. Woke didn't mean being super liberal, feminist, LGBT, or race focused. It really meant people who could see the bigger picture about the world around us or the info most of the masses readily accept. It meant they questioned things, used critical thinking, read between the lines, etc... It had absolutely nothing to do with liberals vs conservatives. In fact, most who would've been considered "woke" in the original context would be those who understand the 2-party system in itself has been detrimental to the public and made the political process much easier to manipulate. And the fact that BOTH parties will protect the wealthy over the 98% when it comes down to it, one party is just more upfront about it.

  • @mrdreloaded4049
    @mrdreloaded40492 ай бұрын

    Dang, good history lesson on Rogue, BUTT....

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! She has a pretty rich history

  • @kjk7611
    @kjk76112 ай бұрын

    I think Storm was supposed to look like Grace Jones, too. But they went with the Emon look, instead.

  • @jasonbaker2198

    @jasonbaker2198

    2 ай бұрын

    Think or Know?

  • @kjk7611

    @kjk7611

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jasonbaker2198 I Think but I'm pretty Sure.

  • @iannis5416
    @iannis5416Ай бұрын

    Thankfully Storm delivered on every aspect of being the embodiment of Grace Jones!!!!

  • @YesThisIsChrissss44
    @YesThisIsChrissss442 ай бұрын

    She definitely is one of my favorites

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    One of my favorites too!

  • @zahidulislamimran5664
    @zahidulislamimran56642 ай бұрын

    she was by far the sexiest X-man character ever drawn, when I was like 5, she was my first crush

  • @theoc511

    @theoc511

    2 ай бұрын

    EXACTLY SAME

  • @jdspetersgaming

    @jdspetersgaming

    2 ай бұрын

    storm though. ororo monroe best girl.

  • @MalBeats
    @MalBeatsАй бұрын

    Artist: "You said her name is Grace right? Say no more fam."

  • @ItsJustBigME.
    @ItsJustBigME.Ай бұрын

    Omg that soundtrack brings back childhood memories ❤

  • @rigolettohooper7319
    @rigolettohooper73192 ай бұрын

    Her drip is crazy❤❤❤

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    She really stood out because of her features

  • @rigolettohooper7319

    @rigolettohooper7319

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman they really took their time with her.

  • @jdspetersgaming

    @jdspetersgaming

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rigolettohooper7319 Cakes do take time in the oven...

  • @bruceleeroy8302
    @bruceleeroy83022 ай бұрын

    I love Rogue and her design in the X-Men cartoon. If she was played by a character that looks like Grace Jones, people would be outraged and call it "woke." Go figure.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I love her design too!

  • @zeken0

    @zeken0

    2 ай бұрын

    Would you have loved her if it was a Grace jones design 🤔... people pick and choose what they want to hate.

  • @firefly44220

    @firefly44220

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @phonicrose8395

    @phonicrose8395

    2 ай бұрын

    Just because Grace inspired her design. Doesn't mean Rouge is a Black character. She was made white. Which makes it woke to change her to be black. Thats like saying a Black person can't be into Fairycore. Smh

  • @gingerdog8203

    @gingerdog8203

    2 ай бұрын

    @@phonicrose8395that last sentence makes no sense with the rest of your comment but i digress, white people have more than 80% of characters in media, they can spare a few iterations to be people of color

  • @devilslayerthesaintofkille1317
    @devilslayerthesaintofkille13172 ай бұрын

    Nice pun at the end.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @maximedastous3359
    @maximedastous33592 ай бұрын

    all the character of rogue is perfect the white streaks hair and her southern accent was on point

  • @bornvet9952
    @bornvet99522 ай бұрын

    Best thing about rogue was when she absorbed captain marvel

  • @austinkruger290

    @austinkruger290

    Ай бұрын

    When captain marvel was still a guy?

  • @triggerfish9967
    @triggerfish99672 ай бұрын

    So Rogue was suppose to be black!?

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup!

  • @OpinionParade

    @OpinionParade

    2 ай бұрын

    No.

  • @OpinionParade

    @OpinionParade

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@chrisjherman uhh, no. That's not even what you said in the video. Elements of Rogue were inspired from several sources, this actress/model being one.

  • @tonyt1680

    @tonyt1680

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@OpinionParade Uhhh, yesss? One of the designers just didn't know who Grace Jones was, so she ended up white. Stop being such a crybaby, you still have your white Rogue

  • @OpinionParade

    @OpinionParade

    2 күн бұрын

    @@triggerfish9967 *UPDATE* The guy who runs this channel is a snake. He deleted his response because he was caught lying and essentially race-baiting people for clicks. What a jackass.

  • @tonikadesouza5428
    @tonikadesouza54282 ай бұрын

    Interesting that you say that, I'm 49 and had original X-Men comics in my teens. Ironically Storm's original look was more like Grace Jones. The whole feel was more dark and grunge, loved it💥!

  • @Shivs628
    @Shivs62823 күн бұрын

    Chris!!! I’ve missed you on DT glad to see you have your own page… I look forward to watching your content 🎉

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    22 күн бұрын

    Welcome! Glad you found my channel. Hope you enjoy the shorts and videos. I typically upload new stuff every day. Feel free to leave feedback too!

  • @israelcortes6714
    @israelcortes67142 ай бұрын

    I rather it be centered around her than Jean

  • @ligeiasiren4290

    @ligeiasiren4290

    2 ай бұрын

    A man of mid, I see.

  • @solblackguy

    @solblackguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ligeiasiren4290 I think we're all burned out from everything being about either Wolverine or Jeanus Christ.

  • @solblackguy

    @solblackguy

    2 ай бұрын

    I think people are mistaking having the spotlight for being centered around.

  • @edgeyberzerker
    @edgeyberzerker2 ай бұрын

    BUT!

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Gotta have a thicc butt for the ending 😆

  • @princemuhammadhassan1507
    @princemuhammadhassan1507Ай бұрын

    I got into so many arguments with people after the who Kiki palmer playing rogue thing. I told them that rogue was inspired from a black woman and all they did was deny deny deny... Im so glad this guy made this.

  • @UnCreativeDeconstructionism
    @UnCreativeDeconstructionism2 ай бұрын

    Zeitgeist was my favorite xmen villain

  • @ryansummer546
    @ryansummer5462 ай бұрын

    That Shade at the end 😂❤

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Not shade at all! Just thicc cheeks 😂

  • @TheAngryAtheist
    @TheAngryAtheist2 ай бұрын

    The popular design of rogue, as shown in the animated series, was created by Jim Lee. Respect on the name please.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    You're a very angry person, aren't you?

  • @TheAngryAtheist

    @TheAngryAtheist

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman not really. Im just saying.

  • @genevieve7676

    @genevieve7676

    2 ай бұрын

    Jim Lee didn't create the character though. He just created her most popular look back in the nineties. Rogue had other designs back in the eighties before Lee.

  • @TheAngryAtheist

    @TheAngryAtheist

    2 ай бұрын

    @@genevieve7676 i mentioned the design

  • @genevieve7676

    @genevieve7676

    2 ай бұрын

    @@romy_edits I think her Outback era look is actually sexier than the Jim Lee look (which looks like a corn husk to me) and I love her Age of Apocalypse hairstyle. One of the things that the nineties cartoon did right was make her jacket green instead of fugly poop brown.

  • @CharlieThunder24
    @CharlieThunder24Ай бұрын

    The actual 90s depiction is rhe main reason why she's a fan favorite. The accent. The spirit. The figure. Mmmm

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    Ай бұрын

    Oh, her 90s animated adaptation is great!

  • @user-os9zo5px2g
    @user-os9zo5px2g2 ай бұрын

    She was always my favorite x- men.❤

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    She's one of my favorites as well!

  • @user-os9zo5px2g

    @user-os9zo5px2g

    2 ай бұрын

    @chrisjherman I should have said. She still my favorite today no matter what.

  • @willcopeland275
    @willcopeland2752 ай бұрын

    He didn’t know who she was, but yet didn’t take the time to find out who she was

  • @charminglady2011

    @charminglady2011

    2 ай бұрын

    Back then, it wasn't easy to just look it up. Internet wasn't around. And Jones is a model and actress.

  • @willcopeland275

    @willcopeland275

    2 ай бұрын

    @@charminglady2011 yes you are correct the phony express that delivered the information and picture of her from the person who sent it to him, but it took too long for him to send a reply back to him right because there was nobody else he could’ve asked out who she was back then the wire tapping was just not fast enough either

  • @lillydee5978
    @lillydee59782 ай бұрын

    Claremont must be getting senile. He often said he wanted STORM to resemble GJ during the 80's. He never said Rogue should until suddenly out of nowhere in 2016.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Or he just wanted to really use Grace Jones as a template for a character

  • @Elektrikkiss

    @Elektrikkiss

    2 ай бұрын

    Get over yourself it's been confirmed

  • @genevieve7676

    @genevieve7676

    2 ай бұрын

    To be fair, early Rogue in the 80s dressed and styled herself closer to Jones than she did in the 90s.

  • @OpinionParade

    @OpinionParade

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Elektrikkiss"get over yourself" Wtf? Do you have worms in your brain or something?

  • @nadjahmiller3977
    @nadjahmiller3977Ай бұрын

    And Storm of X men 97 with whith the white Mohawk was modelled after Grace Jobes

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    Ай бұрын

    You're correct!

  • @Zulu-Lemon
    @Zulu-Lemon2 ай бұрын

    Ironically old school storm looks like Grace Jones.

  • @johnnybarrett9017
    @johnnybarrett90172 ай бұрын

    Gave us great facts and STILL managed to sneak in the iconic "GYATT" of Rogue in the end. You're a true man of culture

  • @txmoney
    @txmoney2 ай бұрын

    Even Golden’s original design for Rogue drastically changed. She went from short-haired and unattractive to the current Rogue we all know.

  • @iknowallthesadsongs2115
    @iknowallthesadsongs21152 ай бұрын

    The worst loss and tragedy that rouge has his her ass

  • @wyldelf2685
    @wyldelf26852 ай бұрын

    🤣😆 "BUTT"😮😂 Chris Clairemount Rocks 🏆👍👍

  • @elvinsolano6177
    @elvinsolano61772 ай бұрын

    I assume the white streak in hair was due to having vitiligo

  • @carlalussini

    @carlalussini

    2 ай бұрын

    WAAAAAAITTTTTTTTT

  • @solblackguy

    @solblackguy

    2 ай бұрын

    Actually it was because she was meant to be middle-aged. Then in other comics that went into her backstory as a child, it showed that she was just inexplicably born with it.

  • @solblackguy

    @solblackguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@romy_edits which finally became canon recently, right? I'm embarrassingly behind in X-Men comics

  • @solblackguy

    @solblackguy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@romy_edits Comic books lol

  • @KingGrizzBadara

    @KingGrizzBadara

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't think anyone got the joke, lol.

  • @a.d.phillips4948
    @a.d.phillips49482 ай бұрын

    I remember reading about this some time ago. I’m glad that they didn’t go with Chris’s initial vision. I enjoy her as is, in the comics, TAS and 97.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Rogue's a great character

  • @a.d.phillips4948

    @a.d.phillips4948

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman absolutely 💯🤝

  • @TheDbduece
    @TheDbduece2 ай бұрын

    Did not know Michael Golden was a part of Rogue. I loved his Micronauts...

  • @PriestForever
    @PriestForeverАй бұрын

    Grace Jones was that woman. I'm actually impressed that Chris Claremont knew who she was!

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    Ай бұрын

    He was a big fan of her and looked at her as a source of inspiration.

  • @biguy617
    @biguy6172 ай бұрын

    Superman is an alien but a human at heart.not in that way! Stan Lee ran out of ideas on how to give people powers. The civil rights stuff came from Chris Claremont not Stan Lee. John Byrne was one of the best comic book writers for the X-men. He knew how to bring a serious edge to them. All this SJW crap came from bad activist writers.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    What short did you watch?

  • @biguy617

    @biguy617

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman I say that because humans raised him.

  • @Mr._Anonymous342

    @Mr._Anonymous342

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@biguy617okay big guy, have a nice day ❤

  • @biguy617

    @biguy617

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Mr._Anonymous342 It is Big Guy. I did a misspell when typing the name

  • @bryce253

    @bryce253

    2 ай бұрын

    Not sure why this is here but Nah... Superman is an alien that is an alien. That's part of the reason I've never liked his butt. He's an alien that has never known human challenges and frailties but has the nerve to try and judge humans on how they should be better humans. Miss me with that.

  • @sergiogarcia7171
    @sergiogarcia71712 ай бұрын

    Keke Palmer needs to be Rogue in the MCU!

  • @lorenzoreynolds2512

    @lorenzoreynolds2512

    2 ай бұрын

    No

  • @KingOfThaDead64

    @KingOfThaDead64

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes yes and yes

  • @zeken0

    @zeken0

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@lorenzoreynolds2512 why no explain

  • @lorenzoreynolds2512

    @lorenzoreynolds2512

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zeken0 because rogue is white southerner not black no hate 4 Keke but get her to play a black character don't blackwash rogue that would be retared there's a lot of white actors out there that look like n sounds like rogue n I'm a black man saying this

  • @OpinionParade

    @OpinionParade

    2 ай бұрын

    Gross. No. Rogue isn't black and was never intended to be black. You seem to have misunderstood what you saw in the video.

  • @superman1081
    @superman10812 ай бұрын

    Originally, she had a short Mullet, which made her look like a stud.

  • @Yoshwayy
    @Yoshwayy2 ай бұрын

    Concept and what she became are Totally different things. People need to stop using this as a reason to want KeKe Palmer as rogue 😂

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm very curious who they'll inevitably cast

  • @lilkenx8039

    @lilkenx8039

    2 ай бұрын

    Right!? X-men in itself is inclusive enough, there's no need to raceswap any character. Maybe Hank McCoy cuz he's blue anyway😂

  • @dominiquedevereux7205

    @dominiquedevereux7205

    2 ай бұрын

    Nobody's saying Rogue's race should be changed. It is what it is now & I love her as she is. The POINT IS the fact so many wyte people get their panties in a bunch when a fictional wyte character is made non-white, when most REAL LIFE HISTORICAL FIGURES that were black were white-washed. So it's a case of, why is it fine for you & not for us. There are MORE than enough wyte characters to represent white culture, but when we get 1 extra, some wyte people have hissy fits, AS IF it's going to take away from their representation. And any1 who denies that fact is just being intellectually dishonest cuz they don't want things any other way than what jibes with THEIR worldview

  • @Pinksugarcandy

    @Pinksugarcandy

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@dominiquedevereux7205said all of this for no one to care. The race of characters should stay as is on every side. okaying it for y’all to race swipe and not okaying it for white people to race swap is just as ignorant as them doing it, period.

  • @Yoshwayy

    @Yoshwayy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman unsure! Pulling for Elizabeth Gillis or Alexandra Daddario

  • @ShadowProject01
    @ShadowProject01Ай бұрын

    God I love that Grace Jones pic you chose. She’s such an icon❤

  • @K1NG931
    @K1NG931Ай бұрын

    I'm glad Rogue doesn't look like Grace Jones

  • @Nunya_Bidness_53
    @Nunya_Bidness_532 ай бұрын

    I always thought Grace Jones inspired Storm... that's how I picture Ororo.

  • @MeDusa_Ri_86
    @MeDusa_Ri_862 ай бұрын

    Rouge has always been my favorite. Her and GAMBIT❤

  • @mAjeStic.716

    @mAjeStic.716

    2 ай бұрын

    Yo me too😂😂 rogue and gambit were everything to me ❤

  • @King7evenTheGod.
    @King7evenTheGod.2 ай бұрын

    That ending tho lmao😅

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Gotta end with a big butt 😂

  • @King7evenTheGod.

    @King7evenTheGod.

    2 ай бұрын

    @@chrisjherman yes

  • @user-ye5ku2ws6s
    @user-ye5ku2ws6s2 ай бұрын

    Did you know that the original Harley Quinn was created from the imagination of actress Arleen Sorkin ( Calliope Jones)? Who first appeared in the soap opera DAYS OF OUR LIVES. She dressed.herself up as a sexy clown , & did a comedic improv calling herself Harley Quinn.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup, I did indeed! She made such an impact on the Batman mythos.

  • @jeanpagette5019
    @jeanpagette50192 ай бұрын

    Last scene shows that rogue cake.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Gotta end the video with a big butt 😂

  • @Ria-sd2ex
    @Ria-sd2ex2 ай бұрын

    I do absolutely LOVE Rogue, but having a character truly influenced after Jones look would have been amazing.

  • @blackknowledgewisdomempowement
    @blackknowledgewisdomempowement2 ай бұрын

    Bet you didn’t know this one: Back in the 80’s at a comic book convention at the then Sheraton Hotel NYC, there was back THEN talks about making a LIVE X-Man movie. They wanted Grace Jones to be the Windrider. They also on the panel talked about who they were who the characters were inspired by.

  • @tdogg65
    @tdogg652 ай бұрын

    Rogue was fine as hell

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh, she's a great chracter!

  • @MindBodyStorm
    @MindBodyStorm2 ай бұрын

    The ending 😆

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Gotta end with a big butt! 🤣

  • @alishaparker315
    @alishaparker3152 ай бұрын

    Rogue was my all time favorite as a kid❤

  • @darrienjones8917
    @darrienjones89172 ай бұрын

    Basically if you were an X-woman in a Chris Clairemont X-Man title. You were probably inspired by Grace Jones

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    You're not wrong!

  • @archangelspardathadon9188
    @archangelspardathadon9188Ай бұрын

    Legendary 💙💯

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed! Thanks for watching too

  • @Shadowrose54321
    @Shadowrose5432129 күн бұрын

    Guy in the studios like: Close enough.

  • @twilightgardenspresentatio6384
    @twilightgardenspresentatio63842 ай бұрын

    I gotta click the thumbs up in time with that gong

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @perfectlyimperfect492
    @perfectlyimperfect492Ай бұрын

    Grace played a super villain but was the best thing in VIEW to a KILL. In CONAN the DESTROYER, she was a scene stealing heroine and too believable in all her roles. She was WILD before wild with her beautifully dark chocolate self. Her shortest funniest role was in Boomerang tho! . .👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 STRANGE'.. gone gurl ! Great singer too. Original groundbreaker, 360°of talent!

  • @SquirrelGamez
    @SquirrelGamez4 күн бұрын

    All the kids loved Wolverine but Rogue was always my favorite. Such a complex character!

  • @zoeyjafferally3475
    @zoeyjafferally34752 ай бұрын

    Rogue is and will always be my favourite X-Men, mutant and superhero period.

  • @macaronnieyatco
    @macaronnieyatco2 ай бұрын

    why did they change her look for the 90s and significantly made her younger- thats what i wanna hear

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    What did they change for the 90s show?

  • @elanalevin6934

    @elanalevin6934

    2 ай бұрын

    When she first appeared in the comics she debuted as a villain. She looked very different from how she looked when they had her join the team. Read the comics!

  • @lolone9663
    @lolone9663Ай бұрын

    Grace Jones would’ve killed it, but for that time- it’s not surprising what they decided to run with…

  • @8LiterallyJustTheNumber8
    @8LiterallyJustTheNumber82 ай бұрын

    She was also the inspiration for Huntara in She Ra

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    I've learned that recently! That's awesome

  • @orlandojohnson5742
    @orlandojohnson57422 ай бұрын

    That was my Saturday morning go to cartoon! Eating cereal 🥣 & getting amped for the day!😅😂😅🤦🏽‍♂️ My 80’s & early 90’s were memorable moments in my life!

  • @KenobiStark1
    @KenobiStark12 ай бұрын

    Grace Jones, I first saw her in Conan The Destroyer, weird movie haha but damn was she fuckin ridiculously beautiful in that.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Definitely a weird movie, but she's perfect for a dark, fantasy epic

  • @kristine3356
    @kristine33562 ай бұрын

    Yes. I credit this series as the beginning of my love of Rogue.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    The same for a lot of people too, I think!

  • @KenMasters.
    @KenMasters.Ай бұрын

    Marvel missed a huge opportunity several decades ago to make a retro live-action X-Men series starring Paul D'Amato as Wolverine, Grace Jones as Storm, Arnold Schwarzenegger as Colossus, etc.

  • @Aidenwilliams007
    @Aidenwilliams00718 күн бұрын

    I love Rogue! She was my like my first and only crush that was animated. Too bad she looks kind of different in X Men '97 tho.

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    18 күн бұрын

    She's one of my favorites too!

  • @codyt.346
    @codyt.3462 ай бұрын

    She’s back! Episode 10

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    The backside is back! 🤣

  • @dbzguy7ify
    @dbzguy7ifyАй бұрын

    Rogue was always my favorite character

  • @MisfitJetta-du8rg
    @MisfitJetta-du8rg2 ай бұрын

    I love this!

  • @chrisjherman

    @chrisjherman

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad you liked the short.

  • @diyproject2656
    @diyproject26562 ай бұрын

    Grace Jones was and still is a beauty today! She's definitely iconic and i always pictured her playing Storm in the movies

  • @Spazout15
    @Spazout152 ай бұрын

    Butt… lol gets me every time 😂😂😂

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