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@everydaydre1185

Жыл бұрын

Did you write the song if you own 20%

Thats why the days of selling actual CDs will always be king.

The math works. The math ain't the problem, it's the business that's f'd up. 💯

@John-ls3we

Жыл бұрын

Idk how math work.. 20% of 200,000 is 40,000… that be a giant percentage to get only 1,500 lol

@sd8484

Жыл бұрын

​@@John-ls3we he got robbed

@Topher_1551

Жыл бұрын

Exaclty

@Charlesmarcel-ee4ke

Жыл бұрын

That’s life🤷🏻‍♀️

@haloed-hero

Жыл бұрын

He’ll Naw

If “FUCKED UP” was an employer🤬🤬🤬

@chrisjoseph6491

Жыл бұрын

It’s fair it’s jus math is what u niggas don’t understand

Saint Jhn is a highly underrated artist

@lilsmuggy4236

Жыл бұрын

I realized being a dope artist dnt guarantee you the GOAT..... metaphors, flow and beat has be there but there are like some hidden factors that play for an artist to be that guy ...

@warrengordon6823

11 ай бұрын

Real talk

@zoewolff1804

10 ай бұрын

Very underrated

@DariosLetsTutorial

9 ай бұрын

@@lilsmuggy4236like rylo and cap

@timcrook4908

9 ай бұрын

Facts

It’s amazing that rappers will go at each other at the drop of a hat but they speak so softly of the individuals who rob them blind,right in front of their faces! Can’t stop, won’t stop! Brilliant! Cheers mates!!

@TSims873

Жыл бұрын

If they spoke out, it would be considered anti-Semitism. Kanye is a prime example.

It is in their best interest to keep the artist poor and starving. Meanwhile they own and use the artist to provide generational wealth for ONLY THEIR FAMILIES.

@seyhe

Жыл бұрын

By there you mean the Jewish that own the music industry.

@mongrelgtv

Жыл бұрын

tru dat but they keep it in storage so it can listened to for decades so i can go listen to a song 50 - 60 yrs old if the artist was in charge we're talking millions of artist who's gonna keep the song available 1record co might have 100 artist and prolly 200-400 songs who's gonna maintain aka preserve all those songs for multiple decades

@patrickdupiton8953

Жыл бұрын

Own ur publishing

@tedtalour6414

Жыл бұрын

No, it wasn't like this before free music on the internet, people used to have to buy the music to hear it

@atownish1488hh

Жыл бұрын

That's what they are supposed to do its capitalism

There's no reason to allow this to happen again, now that you understand how it works.

@devingeary455

Жыл бұрын

How do you change it? When you don't own your masters, don't own your publishing, don't have the marketing budget of a major record label and the streaming services control the contracts and determine how the money is split

@ltwadley7619

Жыл бұрын

​@@devingeary455 hopefully, the Hawks will defeat the Celtics tonight. The score is Bos 27 - Atl 23 Q1 3:28

@brianmorrison9441

11 ай бұрын

That's why you own your own masters . ray Charles and several other people in the industry knew that 😮😮😮😮

@brotherLee340

10 ай бұрын

​@brianmorrison9441 the biggest issue is that streams just don't pay that much. He only owned 20% of the song. So at most he would only get around 20k.

Michael Vick has reincarnated himself without even dying! 😂😂😂

@donteoliver8947

Жыл бұрын

He do look like Vick bro😅😅😅

This is why I stopped using Spotify and went back to buying albums

@JuancoPRoFlow

Жыл бұрын

Doesnt matter, they still get robbed, sadly.

@Ayushmanz

11 ай бұрын

I would rather the artist lose money than myself tbh

@mypubsonyoheadson

10 ай бұрын

Wow you make a big difference lmao

@mypubsonyoheadson

10 ай бұрын

You should suck yourself as a reward

@vakejargas

10 ай бұрын

@@mypubsonyoheadson I can tell you don’t 😂

Robbing without a gun 😫😫😭😭😠😠✌✌

Saint is the most talented artist we have today. This is ridiculous 💯

@roycejay6723

Жыл бұрын

Facts, FR , FR.

@wetwork5103

Жыл бұрын

When I discovered Ghetto Lenny Love I was sold, I was like who is this dude!

@wildstyle203

Жыл бұрын

I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF HIM B4 LOL

I just had a local kid sign a record deal two days ago. I wished him the best and also told him that you come first and you never ever give up what you wrote and produced. Also when you guys get other material from ghost writers, change a few lines in the material so you can get a percentage of the cut directly to you.

@jackblack7797

9 ай бұрын

Thats how the labels get em ita sad they make em sign away there publishing and get the mastets so the artist does all work and they get a very small percentage of all profits

thats why they wanted to get away from making cds, so they can manipulate how much the artists make. Back then we didnt have to worry bout streams, just actual album sales!

@inthestreetsofb.r.990

Жыл бұрын

Then it was even worse

@jhonram2496

Жыл бұрын

​@@inthestreetsofb.r.990not nessicarly. You could actually make more money off a physical album back then if you owned all your stuff,plus tour money and merchandise even commercials. Today is different the reason why vinyls are so expensive is beacuse people aren't buying physical copies like that anymore.

@syncerecredentials

11 ай бұрын

And remember singles came with a remix and instrumental or uncut version that would be sold too

@brotherLee340

10 ай бұрын

​@@KILLAONEALexactly. You had dudes making good money selling actual cds. You could be a local artist and sell as little as 10k real cds and possibly make 6 figures. Streaming kinda killed the independent hustle.

Too many hands in the pot!

You'd think artist would figure it out after all these decades. Either demand more from the gatekeepers or don't give them your art.

@ra2186

Жыл бұрын

@@toneotone4813 Tell us you're a child without telling us you're a child. Smh

@ra2186

Жыл бұрын

@@toneotone4813 See, this is why I called you a child. You don't understand that streaming is just a new platform, not new business. Just stop and save yourself further embarrassment.

Everybody else got paid more than the writer for his work 😢

@TruthfullySpeaking500

Жыл бұрын

This is the streaming shit Snoop was talking about just recently. It’s true. You can get a billion streams but not a million dollars.

@elsancho-mx7om

Жыл бұрын

That's what happens when they take cash over points.

@elsancho-mx7om

Жыл бұрын

​@@TruthfullySpeaking500 it's the artists fault......

@brotherLee340

10 ай бұрын

​@@elsancho-mx7omits bigger than that. Streams just don't pay that much.

@elsancho-mx7om

9 ай бұрын

@brotherLee340 no its not..... the artist who believed in themselves like 50 take points over cash up front. Ignorant greedy artists who have no business sense are the ones who sign these garbage contracts. BTW at least streaming pays something, artists don't get shit from radio stations.....

Loving saint jhn brilliant artist...

Shit I'm good with my 107K a year truck job

If artists would be strong enough to stop signing deals and refuse to upload to streaming services . They would fix the problem real quick but they know artists won’t stick together

@anthonyramos9846

Жыл бұрын

Where would you expect artists to upload their song?

Thank God all the music I need has already been released in the 90s, the music business doesn't look good for future generations

Producers and artists must learn to build their own servers.

@kurtbrown5560

Жыл бұрын

I emphasize this thought on a dialy you notice the talk about owning masters is not being thrown around so often anymore 😂😂 cause even if they own thier masters they dont own the streaming platform 😂😂😂 they still have to pay publishers

@EvidenceBasedMedsin

11 ай бұрын

@@kurtbrown5560 brother, keep telling the young your thoughts!! Plant that seed and everything will be on the one…soon

He should've got about 30k

This is why nft albums will be the future so the artist can take back control.

@eliyarrows2456

Жыл бұрын

🤦🤦🤦 do you even know what an nft is? Like the picture of the nft isn’t what you own, the picture is just in the blockchain and online for anyone to see. What you own is a specific link that brings you to that picture on the block chain. Other people can obtain those links and sell them again to other people. And when you own a bored ape, that ape is available for anyone to use in any way. Basically this would make the albums free 😂 Just release a record independently, that’s how artists take back control 😂

@juhgfdsapiyhhnnxc3517

Жыл бұрын

And you know who did it first? Tory lanezzzz and look where he is

@rickrubin8049

Жыл бұрын

@@eliyarrows2456 rubbish. When u own an nft u own the rights also along with the royalties. So fans who invest can also get money from their share of the album. Also reselling it

@rickrubin8049

Жыл бұрын

@@juhgfdsapiyhhnnxc3517 they cant stop everyone tho an Tory lanez has made everyone curious about nft album which is great

@Gamer420life

Жыл бұрын

You dumb afffffffff

Upload it to a distributor yourself, every musical art owner regardless of percentage can even republish it and still upload in its entirety whilst onky paid for their solid percentage

If each stream is worth 3,000 and you made 70 million streams in total and he gets 20% his share was $4,666.66667 not $1500. Now if the total sales from song was just $210,000 and you said 20% of the song is yours then you get $42,000 or $8,400 or $1680 depending on what level you at. I understand the music industry now you gotta understand what level you on so your 20% matters.

I love that he knows the workings of it, would love to see the whole clip

That math ain’t mathing if he is claiming 20-25%.

@allidoiswin9891

Жыл бұрын

Y'all have no comprehension, he just said it had to be bussed down, meaning split up

Broke all the Way down; that's y they say do what you love

I still can’t believe how messed up this industry still is.😮

Now look into who owns all the companies & that will tell why the business is so bad...

Crazy that workers are fucked over in EVERY aspect of life and we still haven't had a general strike. We just accept it bc " that's how it's always been" We deserve better.

People dont understand what streaming is still. Streaming is just a new version of radio plays . Artist didnt get paid back in the day when their music was on the airways. Streaming is not the same as buying the album or single.

I wanna hear how that math added up in that manner

Sounds like KZread Shorts 😅

Dayum ‼️😳

Companies basically rip everyone off in every industry every profession

That is why people need to get themselves a lawyer and accountant as friends or if not get them to do the paperwork for you because their costs are tax deductible... glad to be an accountant - we study contract law as part of our course so have basic idea and can tell you when to go to a lawyer. For such a business always use a lawyer because it will pay off.

That's why u need to know what game u playing so u know the rules. When to take upfront money, points or publishing.

It's Usher's song Seduction and he wrote rivals featuring future

All artists and musicians should take a page out of Prince the artist formerly known as book. Once you own and control your work/creation and you are talented and put in work . Then you get rich and get to move your own way . Never have to bow down or sell out . There's levels to this shit. Price and Michael Jackson were trying to expose the industry for using artists as puppets to brainwash our youth. It's embarrassing as a human race that we literally brainwash negative and destructive behavior and we see the effects of it in society now. How can musicians makes songs saying shit they would not want their own children or loved ones to Experience or mimic . That garbage as shit they call music is a cancer infecting our youth.

Who wrote up those contracts like that? Who controls the record industry? Whoever they are, avoid doing business with them at any cost!

They are still a step ahead of the creators

That’s a pay check in da warehouse

I wish people stop putting these shorts up without links to the full post

Which song?

He’s right! Glad I’m independent and all money comes straight to me! Don’t want a certain level of fame just the fortune

You have to put yourself in everybody’s shoes. If you are the owner of a music studio and production. You want to get pay: you have to pay employees; pay for the expensive music equipment and a lot more expenses. If musicians want to make more money they have to do more.

You get what you signed for. People just think it’ll be more.

Usher has finessed more than we know

Been listening to this dude for a while. Been wondering when his music was gonna pop off.

We need new music from this cat... He's left us hanging...

ahhh saint Jhn my Guyanese brotha

That’s crazy ! They don’t pay these industry people nothing that was cold af

This is disrespectful to a real one😢 yet he has the right head on his shoilders

Everyone thought Prince was crazy. Now y’all understand why Prince said he was a slave to the Music industry until he won his case against Sony.

If those people listening to the song are not alone, then this dude paid 200K to reach 200M peoples ears. He paid 10 cents a person for marketing. Not bad to get next 5 years fully booked concerts for a few million each. Great campaign. Well done!

I thought that was AB😂😂

Digital streaming gift and curse. Better selling cds out the trunk

@brotherLee340

10 ай бұрын

Yep. My uncle was a local rapper in the 90s. He was selling about 25k cds a year for a few years. Damn near became a millionaire and never left the state lol. Those days are long gone.

That's that funny math. Heads I win. Tails you lose.

Look, all of you are getting mad but how many of you pay Spotify or Apple Music to stream? Answer honestly. Here’s the solve: BUY the song. Pay the damn $1.29, that way the artist then makes 60-70 cents when you purchase it on iTunes. If you like the song enough, support the artist. Don’t sit here and start blaming Spotify, they aren’t making much money as a company (yes, google it). If you’re going to blame anyone, blame yourself for streaming your music.

The investments and work put into that song being made into music and being shown as public as it was far outweigh the effort put into writing a song

Usher been burning people I see smh that’s crazy

Damn he should have got a lawyer.🤦🏻‍♂️

Streaming is basically legal theft. If you like an artist. Find out how they get paid. Either concerts, merchandise or whatever. And then look at what they don't get paid for. Streaming or albums or whatever. Then put your money where the artist gets it. You wouldn't want to do a job and have your paycheck sent to someone else. That's basically what the music industry does to artists

It’s over! Been over for years. We are still living in the Napster era without realizing it. As long as theirs no hard copy in the game, streaming can’t pay you. $3000 per million streams? Better find a better way to hustle them catalogs. Problem is poor people may all this music! Poor = desperate! Desperate people can’t make good deals. Example (and I know it was back in the CD era but the principal is still the same) The Fugees turned down their advance! They took about 10gs for miscellaneous. 6 months after the album dropped they we’re recouping ridiculous checks. The record company was paid back in 6 months and the Fugees were in the black. Big tours AND big record company checks poppin off. Big Pub too. All because they were not desperate. Rule number uno…. Do not enter into any agreement on any level if you’re the desperate party. If you’re starving starve a little longer. Buy your floss on the NEXT project! Skip all that on the first or you enter the game in the red and you’ll never catch up. Artist need to FORCE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT on the music industry otherwise…….☹️ Chuck Schumer is the best senator you will ever have for issues like this. Or… be desperate and take short money! And shut up!

70 million streams and out of $210,000.00 you only got $1500.00. These platforms are created for the owners of the platforms to make the money off your work. Why would you put your product on that platform. There's got to be another way to get exposure for your business/ work.

They only made money, when they use to sell albums. There's no more money in music since the internet 👎

Get your 20% publishing/ become a publisher as well. That will solve your issue... Own more than the song writer %

DAT HURTS. 😢

$1500 on $210k... But he made connections and was doing what he loved; to rise above, the bs... Steve Harvey said, "it's not what you earn, it's what you learn," (when you doing what you love).

They keep telling me that Ye is crazy

Artist don’t have the magic of these business men that know how to generate billions of dollars selling musical sounds. Really think about that.

The thing is you really don’t know what the song is going to do and neither do they, they gambling just like you. He NOW has leverage to negotiate future percentages etc

SMFH 🤦🏾💯 They ripped this man off

Makes sense always wondered why rappers always talking about selling drugs because they have to

This is why you shouldn't get involved with labels and stuff, I'd always recommend that rappers and singers learn to produce their own music rather than have a writer, a producer and a label all taking a cut from one project, you should at the very least after dealing with a music publishing company be getting 90% of the profits and if you get to more of a profitable stage in your career you should be contacting these music platforms like Spotify, Apple music, KZread music etc. So you can build your own relationships with them and you'll come across more as a businessman than an actual artist, this is what you need to do if you wanna take your career into your own hands.

Omg😮that is ridiculous 😳 all that money they took

That's why you only do that one are two times. Then you go independent if you can.

But he agreed to the contract and he also got the notoriety because he wrote a song for an r&B goat. But this is the same thing left eye explained why TLC went bankrupt

publishing is where the money 🤑 is

Its a racket the streaming companies and masters of music industry have cooked up. And it wont get better until the artists and songwriters band together and fight.

You da man St JhN

Yup ans that’s truly some BS

Usher,Spotify,and the publishers, would be writing there own damn songs😂

@brotherLee340

10 ай бұрын

Well Usher really ain't make that much either. Streams just don't pay much. Just think about how easy it is to get free music nowadays . Unfortunately this is just a bad time to be an artist.

Sorry bruh but you forget Usher’s voice , fame, dance moves , legacy , music video promotion and others also shot the record to that 7mil. If you had written and given the song to any normal artist or underground artist would the record have hit that hard. You knew what you were getting into before you started. Can we stop biting ourselves. The Business side is the problem. I feel Usher’s artistry shot the whole record into fame. What is Writing without Sound vocals, productn, amazing video , choreography and promotion…

I really thought for a second this was antonio brown saying he wrote for usher 😂😂

It's a dirty game it's a dirty game

this guy looks just like Michael Vick with Sun glasses on🏈

Two thumbs down 👎👎 that's not how the math works, it's how he got worked. Why. Because of a lack of preparation, which we all know is the best application, for any situation. 😎

You are a musical genius

The slaves can not escape their masters. Even if they think they are free

The spirit of Left Eye has entered the room! Peace!

That's so wrong, that's robbery.

That crazy! Wow!

When the add up ain't adding up 😂😂😂😂

He came up😮

Thanks for the information. The job is now on us to cancel Spotify and their associates till they realise who they're messing with.

@jayokay8569

Жыл бұрын

It’s the same thing with most if not all music streaming services. That’s why it works so well in the companies favor. If you try to cancel Spotify, that won’t stop Apple or Amazon music from doing similar things and no one is going boycott all music streaming services and give up convenience to help artists make more money.

Thought that was Mike Vick for a sec lol

The math was right, the reading was wrong.