Did This Roman Emperor Make Christianity More Pagan? | Secrets Of Christianity | Odyssey
Constantine is famous as the Roman Emperor who converted to Christianity and greatly helped its spread across Europe and beyond. But in reality did Constantine end up altering the young religion, making it more pagan?
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Mithraism has its roots in ancient Persia, not the Mediterranean basin.
Constantine aligned Christianity of the 4th century, which had already and continued to root itself into a Greek philosophical school, with the notion of empire and administration. Not sure if this shift was necessarily inevitable. Christianity certainly lost its sense of history as defined by the prophets of Israel. The power of the empire and Platonic and Aristotelian thought created a unique social institution within and part of the power of the Empire.
@joeychicago6322
2 ай бұрын
Those care old tests ment who agent a part of the new church of Jesus by his blood sacrifice for all of our hope. Their have been new saints who actually bled for the Catholic faith and holy mother church. Have u not read up on the t first thousand yrs of the church? How r we even having this conversation? Please pray on this and for Israel and Rome, the to top targets of satan...
Pagan is most likely from the word Pakan (Persian) the cleansed ones which later became redefined as vilified to serve a purpose. Contantine's heart never changed but his mind knew what moves to make. The Nordics probably have similar belief toward their gods and so the Galics.
@joeychicago6322
2 ай бұрын
Probably? U must b careful on words especially dealing with holy history. No Constantine like his mother threw the wars fought for Christianity and the Holy lands and so on the the truth. The fruits r abundant can't yet u speak in maybes? Pray for insight my friend!
Lads, Maxentius built the arch and Constantine just added to it.
This is such an amazing documentary.
Ultimately, Constantine was a shrewd politician. He aligned himself with the cult of Sol Invictus (or Apollo) because it was a generic enough form of worship in the classical world to form a basis for a single homogenous religion across the empire. The documentary is right to show that his objective was to create a state religion venerating the Roman emperor and using symbols from Christianity, Mithraism and paganism to do so.
@joeychicago6322
2 ай бұрын
No proof of that historically. Do not b fooled my friend by smeer videos like this who do not actually show proof but only hear say ! Please pray on this truth and pray for Rome and Isreal, the two main targets of satan!!
He was baptised just before is death, but some years before, in 325, he promoted and presided among the bishop of Cordoba, the Nicean Council, where they fought doctrines that were not friendly to them, calling them heresy
@-kepha8828
19 күн бұрын
There is no recording anywhere during his time claiming he was baptized. The Catholic church invented this long after his death.
This is a theological question too. About commitment to Christ, which is not the same as a social institution called (more or less accurately) Christianity. The Christian scriptures validate incarnation and show the first generation's battle with following Christ in their context. Put another way 'pagan' and 'Christian' can be difficult to sort out. It seems likely that both Jesus and also Paul and the other writers regarded themselves as faithful Jews.
@tgbluewolf
9 ай бұрын
Where do Christian scriptures validate incarnation??
@evanhadkins5532
9 ай бұрын
@@tgbluewolf Jn.1:1ff and many other places.
He’s so funny. Builds a statue, regardless who the statue is of he sticks his own face on it 😂 Takes over and makes a new town, names it after himself 😂😂
Wikipedia: Mithra (Avestan: 𐬨𐬌𐬚𐬭𐬀 Miθra, Old Persian: 𐎷𐎰𐎼 Miça), commonly known as Mehr or Mithras among Romans,[1] is an ancient Iranian deity of covenants, light, oath, justice, the sun,[2] contracts, and friendship.[3]
@j.adickey2002
6 ай бұрын
the MEHR of the empire of Cyrus the Great has to have changed greatly in order to be the MITHRAS that some of Aurelian's troops worshipped.
@MondoProducer
6 ай бұрын
@@j.adickey2002 Intriguing! How so and why?
@j.adickey2002
6 ай бұрын
@@MondoProducer ---- There is a shrine to Mithras at one of the outposts along Hadrian's Wall in the U.K ..... Julius Caesar admired Alexander the Great however he was HIGH JOVE. Cyrus the Great is also known for being tolerant of many religions but had his mystical insights. I think MITHRAS is a composite morph God bearing an overlap set with Apollo.... however MEHR might be an entity that is closer to the mysticism of the historic courts of the Persian Empire. JOVE is and isn't ZEUS or the planet Jupiter but each name might indicate a metaphysical manifestation of the godhead demi-urge. Constantine i believe was Greek on his mother's side, and his father was the son of Claudius II ...as a young man, he tried to be as christian as his mother Helena but he was exposed to HIGH JOVE.... the traditions passed down from Rome's power elite circa the time of Caesar Augustus. His "Christian" rebirth when he became an Imperator in full was deliberate.
@j.adickey2002
6 ай бұрын
Correct me if i am wrong.... there are four bronze horses in Venice. Constantine's arch had a bronze chariot and 4 horses on it, and a man holding the reins. Nero's old palace had been torn down by Vespasian. There was also a statue to Apollo, who the Greeks would see as being akin to Alexander the Great. Constantine semi-looted panels for his arch. DUDE had an EGO. Put it together.... half Christian, half Roman.... troops from the Rhine area, Neo-Platonism. A captive time in Diocletian's palace so his father does not go into open rebellion, and a possibility of being somebody important eventually. GOOGLE Zenobia. GOOGLE Palmyra. GOOGLE Aurelian. Like CYRUS THE GREAT.... the intent of the EDICT of MILAN was toleration...
@j.adickey2002
6 ай бұрын
If you see Apollo above the charioteer on Constantine's arch when down the road a ways, but as you get closer to where Nero's house/palace had been.... the "dude" holding the reins of the SUN CHARIOT rises above....Apollo. THINK like a Neo-Platonist. THINK of the poor city of PALMYRA. Zenobia said her ancestor was Cleopatra and she was of the bloodline of the royal House of Old Persia. Whether we speak of Zoroaster or the other faiths in that empire, Diocletian did have war stories.... and yes, Augustus Caesar was not 10 feet tall but his statues often were, if placed on Rome's roads. Perspective. Constantine was aware of HIGH JOVE.... Augustus the Imperator was Rome's Pontifex Maximus. www.britannica.com/biography/Zenobia After Palmyra falls, she is in chains... taken to Rome, and marries Diocletian. One of the stories. www.britannica.com/biography/Longinus-Greek-literary-critic This guy was one of Zenobia's courtiers... he took a rhetoric essay circa the time of Augustus Caesar, an imperial essay, and reworked it. He was beheaded after the revolt in the East fails.
Was it christianity that became more pagan? Or was it paganism that became christianity? Either way, there are definitely enough similarities to support the pagan continuity hypothesis.
@JordanWallace-nb4id
9 ай бұрын
The Catholic church is not Christianity
@aijingsukdiamai87
8 ай бұрын
By introducing Sunday and abolished Sabbath is is more pagan, by introducing Christmas, Good Friday, Easter Sunday and abolished Passover it is more pagan
@JordanWallace-nb4id
8 ай бұрын
@@aijingsukdiamai87 that's no true Christianity though, you've been bamboozled
Interesting to see the actual monuments and hear about the connections. But the setup and sound effects, pretending this is news is rather exhausting.
Very interesting and certainly what Constantine did worked for him.
Great leaps to connect Christianity to Mithraism.
Those marks on the stones could be anything. If a building was marked with a cross I think they would do a better job of it than a scratch that is barely visible?
Constantine Romanized Christianity.
@KatyYoder-cq1kc
3 ай бұрын
This is correct.
We call it Constantinian Christianity identified by those celebrating Christmas and Easter, others are calling it Mystery Babylon, and what's really funny is those practicing true Christianity are called cults by them 😂 .
These two just make stuff up or the views.
@josiahbradley1638
9 ай бұрын
What exactly did they make up?
I'm a Christian
Jacobovici makes stuff up as he goes along.
@skepticscircle1497
9 ай бұрын
Tell that to Dr’s Richard Carrier, Robert Price, David Fitzgerald. Christianity in general…MYTH. oh, and Jews for Judaism too. You’d be surprised at what they think.
@bill9989
9 ай бұрын
He's a fraud.
Regensburg lecture.
Christianity, especially Catholicism is built upon the old Roman bureaucracy
I get Constipation in my brains!
Kristian is a pagen religious
In 321 he abolish Sabbath and introduced Sunday, in 325 he abolished Passover. Jesus kept the Sabbath and the Passover.
Short answer, No.
So what was Christianity because the paganism came in?
@Salacious-Crumb
9 ай бұрын
Basically what Jehovahs witnesses believe
@debaprasad9379
9 ай бұрын
A normal cult fighting against local superstitions . Not a religion for sure 🤔
@Salacious-Crumb
9 ай бұрын
@@debaprasad9379 you talking about jahs witnesses because they are an official religion ... 8 million members worldwide and no suicide pacts or anything like that ... don't take my word for it do the research yourself .. I'm not a witness myself I havnt the ability to live up to that beautiful lifestyle...but I won't slag them either
The filmmakers seem hell bent on casting doubt on Jesus Christ and Christianity 😂 😂😂 they have been called out by their own experts that commentary and findings were chopped and screwed to fit a narrative that’s totally false and misleading. Bible Expedition channel
@tessag.1079
9 ай бұрын
That is this guy's purpose. I have watched his other stuff. Very AntiChrist.
@scartenaflor8342
8 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. Wat a twist to sound clever.
American made documentaries always have to be so over the top dramatic with the editing. It's a good documentary, but the dramatic editing as if the world is about to fall makes it almost unbearable to watch.
Change or take that bloody hat off.
In the future,Jesus will turndown to the earth and brake the cross!and get christian to true monoteism
An entire religion based off a painting make 1300 years after the people lived hahaha. People are such suckers. Y’all wanna lend me a few dollars. I swear I’ll pay ya back
Rom+pagen=keristian
Can`t wait for the episode that covers Christianity`s destruction of the classical world.
@InhabitantOfOddworld
9 ай бұрын
They'll never cover that, it would wake up the goyim
@scarling9367
9 ай бұрын
👍
@JordanWallace-nb4id
9 ай бұрын
You mean Catholicism
@travellerstoryteller
9 ай бұрын
It didn't destroyed totally, cause christianity is still a pagan roman religion with several gods, they are called nowadays as saints...
@InhabitantOfOddworld
9 ай бұрын
@@travellerstoryteller It was destroyed, read The Darkening Age by Catherine Nixey
Pagan good Christianity bad
@JordanWallace-nb4id
9 ай бұрын
That's why hell exists for people like you.
@JordanWallace-nb4id
9 ай бұрын
That's why hell exists for people like you.