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@--enyo--

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think the room being changed *necessarily* points at it being for the purpose of assassinating him. It would make sense for them to want him to be in a bugged room regardless. But at the same time there’s all the other stuff.

@user-em4jx2bw6g

Жыл бұрын

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@haidagwaiiintel7696

Жыл бұрын

it took you 10 min to start talking about MLK. Nothing about this was researched properly. bad video

@abstractdaddy1747

11 ай бұрын

​😮

@DARK0073GAMING

10 ай бұрын

I figured MLK stepped on some toes one way or the other. Got in the way of certain people's dirty money as a result of his duty as a civil rights activist more or less.. pissed off some people thats for sure... I have always quoted "it's either what he DID DO, or what he DIDNT DO!"

Simon: "I don't do videos on topics that might get me killed." Also Simon: "Did the FBI kill MLK?"

@winnkey

Жыл бұрын

The courts basically already found them guilty... just no one actually cares.

@a_lost_one

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, anyone involved is probably long dead.

@DragnWolfe

Жыл бұрын

This was my first thought when I saw the title.

@mastpg

Жыл бұрын

The FBI....not the FSB.

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

@@winnkey Responsible, not guilty

The best part of Simon reading historical events is Simon consistently giving advice on how to get away with crimes

@danelynch7171

Жыл бұрын

We just broke the first rule by writing it down!

@patrickday4206

7 ай бұрын

We don't speak about fight club 😂

@greenflagracing7067

5 ай бұрын

here's some advice: never talk to the police

That story about him and his grandmother was so sad to hear. And for someone to try and use it against him, a government organisation no less, is absolutely disgraceful.

@AngryDad.

9 ай бұрын

Lol

@TheDigitalApple

4 ай бұрын

To be fair it is the federal government, they’re whole existence at this point is to just look down upon American citizens.

On the science vs religion in school thing My 11th grade science teacher handled this pretty well. She said “There is the answer you believe and the answer we are looking for. You can believe whatever you want but on tests and homework, the answer is what I teach you in class.” I’m paraphrasing but I thought that was a really clever way of getting around the issue. And this was in the late 90’s.

@user-fn2mx6dd5k

11 ай бұрын

Any teacher that spouts bible bullshit outside religious or cultural topics should be barred from education

@charless1145

3 ай бұрын

People literally died to get religion out of public schools, because it doesn't belong there. The pledge of allegiance is bad enough, but actual religion in school? Gtfo. That's a hill I'll die on, not because I think god as a construct is stupid and ignorant, but because my child should have the right to not have that bullcrap be part of the standard lesson structure.

I suffered some pretty bad malpractice at a military hospital in the 1990's. It was a little hilarious to see Simon have the same reaction my parents did to learning you have to obtain the permission of the federal government to sue the government-owned hospital. Lol.

@douggaudiosi14

Жыл бұрын

What happened?

@lilmanbazooka7944

Жыл бұрын

@@douggaudiosi14 he had a case of boffa

@StefanMedici

Жыл бұрын

Crazy right. It would be like the police policing the police.

@boneytony5041

Жыл бұрын

And they make you pay for it.

@jaman878

Жыл бұрын

It’s called sovereign immunity. You cannot sue the government unless they want to be sued.

The reason that MLK only stayed at that hotel in Memphis was because it was the only hotel that would rent rooms out to African Americans. They had asked for a different room on this trip but a unknown person called before King arrived and asked to make sure he got his regular room. When MLK arrived his normal room was the only one left.

@DTex.45ACP

7 ай бұрын

You're saying that all of Memphis had only a single hotel that would rent to African-Americans. You sure 'bout that?

@mikea1714

7 ай бұрын

@@DTex.45ACP at that time yes. That is factual. You must not know about The Green Book and segregation in the South at that period of time.

@patrickday4206

7 ай бұрын

If there was another it probably wouldn't have been suitable

@implodingllama2092

7 ай бұрын

@@DTex.45ACP did you never take history when you were in school?

@phoenixxxflytrap

3 ай бұрын

​@@DTex.45ACPAre we sure about the existence of segregation, separate but equal, and the state of accommodation in pre-Civil Rights Act, Jim Crow-era Tennessee? Yes, yes I think we're all pretty sure lol

The fact that the tree covering the bathroom window and the bushes where the real shooter supposedly was were removed after the assassination is extremely suspicious

You don't understand what a strike is, especially one like this. It's not about refusing to work and staying at home. It's about standing together in the face of your employers, shoulder to shoulder with your coworkers. It used to be about more than that, a ton of bats and some guns if people wouldn't listen. That is not the way things work now, and certainly not the way King wanted protests, but the spirit of standing with the people you work with and facing the injustice is the whole point. Sorry Simon, but this is one thing you might not quite understand.

Seeing Simon all happy after the surprise visit from his family was quite nice.

@beethimbles8801

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. He just had a kinda smile we don’t usually see. And super props to him for keeping them off the internet.

@keryeeastin4022

Жыл бұрын

❤😊

@atheistmom3591

Жыл бұрын

❤

@victoriaeads6126

Жыл бұрын

Very, agreed 😁

@Im-Not-a-Dog

Жыл бұрын

@@tyzilla358 The whole point of this series is that he doesnt know the stories beforehand and makes up his mind as to if he believes it or not as he learns the details. Welcome to the channel, take a chill pill and calm right the fuck down.

MLK Jr was the civil rights leader. His father, MLK Sr, was the preacher at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, GA. They were both born Michael King, but Michael King Sr was so inspired after attending a protestant convention in Dresden, Germany, in the early 1930's near where Martin Luther, the Catholic monk who started the Protestant Reformation, was from, that Michael King Sr changed both his & his son's name to Martin Luther King.

@renaissanceredneck3695

Жыл бұрын

I thought MLK Jr was a minister as well, his doctorate was in theology I believe.

@vic5015

Жыл бұрын

​@@renaissanceredneck3695he was. Actually *both* were pastors at Ebenezer.

@sparky6086

Жыл бұрын

@renaissanceredneck3695 Yes. MLK Jr like his dad, was a minister, but in Alabama instead. Like the Bible says, "A prophet is rarely respected in his own land", so MLK Jr went to the neighboring state to preach. I don't recall, if MLK Jr was later a regular pastor at Ebenezer Baptist Church. I remember his dad was still pastor there for a while, after MLK Jr was killed. Many civil rights leaders of that time were also ministers. Dad knew MLK Sr in the mid 1940's. Even though MLK Sr was in the Jim Crow South, Dad said, that MLK Sr carried himself with such dignity, that even the most outwardly racist white people treated him with respect. Dad remembered seeing MLK Jr with his dad, MLK Sr, as an adolescent or teenager but didn't really know him. MLK Sr was much taller than MLK Jr, so it made MLK Jr appear much younger, than he was, so even though Dad was only a couple of years older than MLK Jr, Dad thought, that he was much younger than him, so didn't try to hang out.

@DerptyDerptyDUM

Жыл бұрын

Today I Found Out!! 🧠😮

@ffaa.1650

Жыл бұрын

You legend thank you 🤙

I love how I watch Simon for entertainment and I leave with free criminal advice.

From a state known for hunting: deer are MUCH larger up north than they are in the south. I’m the south the deer are pretty much the size of a large dog. First time I saw one in Alabama I was shocked at how tiny it was. Had to be convinced it was a full grown deer and not a fawn 😅

@-alovelygaycat-

3 ай бұрын

Well now I’m scared to see deer in the north because I’m from the south and the grown deer I’ve seen are about the height of my mom’s car which makes them about 5’6, sometimes bigger. Are y’all’s deer like 6’4 or something?

One of my high school teachers was a student in Boston when desegregation was enforced there. I actually interviewed him for a paper for my history class when I was a junior. I visited the Civil Rights Museum in 2019 and standing just feet away from Dr. King was when he was shot, and that there's an entire floor of the museum that's *dedicated* to the conspiracy theories was quite an experience (hard to put into words). Simon, he had to stay at the Lorraine - segregation was still being enforced and it was the only real motel he could stay at.

@lunarshadow7712

Жыл бұрын

And I think he had TRIED to get another room but SOMEONE changed it back to his usual room. I’ve heard this case from a couple different places but not sure where that came from.

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

​@@lunarshadow7712 it is mentioned in this video

@lunarshadow7712

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatWriterKevin ah might not have gotten to it yet

@tatianalyulkin410

Жыл бұрын

So you're saying that the fact that he was killed when he was shedding his " let's all get along " image and becoming more and more like Malcolm or Goddaddy ( Paul Robeson ) is just a weird coincidence? Sorry, I totally disagree.

@Ntwolf1220

Жыл бұрын

@@tatianalyulkin410Paul Robeson the mf GOAT

This episode and the Kennedy assassination episode are definitely two of the best ones I've seen on here so far A+ work to you and your writers and Jen

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! This one wasn't Jen though

@spadej791

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatWriterKevin thank you for the correction Simon has so many channels and people that works with it's hard to keep them all straight sometimes

@itarry4

Жыл бұрын

Gonna say pretty sure it's not Jen. This editor always uses clips from one specific source designed to be used exactly like this and in my opinion there not quite as good as Jen who has a very dry, very funny sense of humour perfect for the video topics she edits. This editor also likes to use those screen wipes effects quite a lot which I'm not a fan of. It's personal choice though I guess so.

@Zappygunshot

Жыл бұрын

I read this and my tired ass didn't register the final 'and'. I thought that was pretty based, even though this wasn't edited by her. Too bad, but honestly I value honouring people's work over a silly joke. Good on ya folks!

@2yoyoyo1Unplugged

Жыл бұрын

Not sure whether I like this or the Wendigoon version more

Regarding the idea that the chief surgeon ended up smothering him. If that is true, it's probable that they you had something to black mail him with. You also have to consider people who are in the medical profession, especially back then, didn't always get into the profession wanting to help everyone. Lastly, I want to convey a story of my sister's former mother in law. While having a spinal tap performed, the surgeon screwed up and perforated her spinal column, and if it wasn't for her dear friend, she would have died in the recovery room. Her friend, who was a nurse, became suspicious and against the staffs objections, forced her way into the room to find her friend near dead. The hospital management had made the choice to let her die simply because it would have been cheaper for them to pay for a wrongful death suit than having to pay for her medical expenses and pain and suffering from the lae suit.

I cant believe he was only 39. What a tragic waste of a brilliant mans life

Wendigoon has a amazing video on this that is extremely compelling for anyone that isn’t convinced

@staytuned2L337

Жыл бұрын

Wendigang ❤

@josefstrauss9017

Жыл бұрын

Thanks to Wendigoons awesome Iceberg Vids I also got super interested about the Charles Frederick Rogers Case wich is still unsolved (he is also a suspect in the JFK Assassination). Dude makes a lot of good videos.

@MrCapullo97

Жыл бұрын

Yeah after that video the answer is simply yes lol

@Don_Dewitt

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Dad did a great video on it

@dimadobrik4516

Жыл бұрын

I loved his video on it, the whiteboard gave it proper conspiracy nut vibes

I actually teach IGCSE History in a private Cambridge school in South Africa. As Simon says the main focus is on the period between the two world wars and it is incredibly fascinating. I think the point of it is how we manage countries AFTER wars have ended and prevent making the same mistakes that were made after WWI that ultimately led to WWII. Thank you for the amazing work, as always! 🎉

As a truck driver who does exactly as described... it feels good to be recognized hahaha Honestly though, thanks for constantly & consistently quality content.

The "I'm not a racist, some of my best friends..." defense always reminds me of a sketch by Sean Lock (RIP) - "I'm not a murderer, some of my best friends are alive!"

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

I love Sean Lock but have not seen that bit

100%. Wendigoon completely convinced me that the government did it. So I'm really curious to see how Simon sees it.

@jlo7770

Жыл бұрын

Also watched his video, I think it was far better then this. Like a million times better.. 20 minutes of this video was Simon trying to avoid his white privilege saying he'd do xxxx and xxxx was wrong. There was no reason to add in 20+minutes of trash collectors and his outrage. Wendigoons video was a million times better then this and in a shorter time span.

@engste678

Жыл бұрын

America's Untold Stories yt channel beats em all. Simon is entertaining though!

@glich6035

Жыл бұрын

​@@jlo7770 do you watch this channel? If you've seen any of the prior videos, you being upset about it is entirely on you. It's literally the theme.

@darkdest6664

Жыл бұрын

@@jlo7770 tbh Simon really fked up the Waco video. So much missing context, I cant even finish watching this one or the Waco one. It was painful. TBH Simons not American and idk if the writer who got the info was either, usually ppl who are out of country get false or just wrong information. I have friends from different countries who think they understand the legal system and think they know how presidency works. I have to let them know that they are getting drip fed propaganda and actually dont know jack shit.

@Sairei228

Жыл бұрын

Lol you watch wendigoon!😅

Thank god for google street view lmao. "What bushes? What tree?"

Speaking of the situation in the early 60's, my mom was from the South and was very prejudiced. They moved to California and my parents went to a department store. The store had a black saleswoman who asked my mom if she needed help, and my dad said my mom literally froze in astonishment with her mouth hanging open. My dad had to pull her away by her arm before she made a scene. He was very embarrassed, because he was from the north and used to black people in such positions. I guess my mom thought the lady should be mopping the floor instead.

Fun fact: In the US Deer in Northern states actually are much bigger, it's not uncommon for a deer in Georgia to be half the mass of one from Wisconsin.

@iraniansuperhacker4382

Жыл бұрын

why is that? Just better/more food or is it because its hotter down there so being smaller would be better in hotter climate. I never knew that I thought a deer was just a deer no matter where. Do you know if either one tastes better?

@CrypidLore

Жыл бұрын

​@@iraniansuperhacker4382 few reasons, food ability is one, but the two big ones are the larger you are the more heat you retain in winter, and the more fat your body can retain to sustain you through winter.

@iraniansuperhacker4382

Жыл бұрын

@@CrypidLore since they have different eating habits do you know if the deer would taste different?

@Ventus_the_Heathen

Жыл бұрын

As an avid meat hunter I can attest to YES! They do taste different but still pretty much like venison. Northern deer tend to be fattier and therefore stay tender more easily and have a richer flavor but beyond that it's still venison. Think of the differenence between a lean beef steak and a super fatty wagyu or something like that

@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact indeed X) Now I have this image of a Georgia Deer as a chihuahua and a Wisconsin one as Mastiff or a Rottweiler. 😄

Simon is thinking that all hotels in the 1960s allowed Blacks to stay in them. I remember that hotels in the 60s wouldn’t take reservations over the phone from people they didn’t know, because they couldn’t tell the race of the person by their voice. I remember seeing families turned away from hotels when they ere in line in front of my white family who easily got a room. You need to think about what the 60s were like in the South.

@maryfuller4259

Жыл бұрын

It's understandable because he's from the UK so his brain sometimes can't jump the pond well.

@slaytanicsabbath

Жыл бұрын

Wait, I thought the past was the worst?

@MurphysEveryWhim

Жыл бұрын

@@slaytanicsabbath It was, but Simon forgets sometimes that his past was during some of his viewer’s lifetimes. He suggested that MLK jr just find another hotel. I wanted him to remember that that wasn’t always possible for people of color in the U. S. South in the ‘60s.

@slaytanicsabbath

Жыл бұрын

@@MurphysEveryWhim idk man, more hotel vacancies sound good to me.

@StefanMedici

Жыл бұрын

"The last was the worst."

Stellar job, as always, Simon and crew! Just one suggestion that the background music should be toned down quite a bit… sometimes it’s hard to hear Simon over the background effects. For example, I the 1:26:20+ area, the background sounds are distracting instead of helpful. No complaints here though! Absolutely will continue to devour all the content… just wanted to offer this suggestion, from a viewer/listener’s POV. Big thanks to the whole crew.

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I discovered your channels about 2 months ago now and they are fantastic. Also love these long form content education/discussion /information/ blend formats. Awesome love Megaprojects too . I'd actually thing 30 min vids would be cool. Well researched pulling in skilled writers and super professional production. I literally do not watch normal TV anymore. I just use Premium subscription and actually feel like I'm getting something educational (obviously not like reading a book) but while I'm winding down at the end of the day. KZread, who would have thought it would change the game in terms of TV long form content!

I really don't think Simon understands how hard it was to track people in the past. He always seems surprised at how easily people get new identities, escape prison, or leave the country in these videos. But it's not surprising when the events are set almost 60 years ago.

@kale6264

Жыл бұрын

Yea his points are cringe

@60sSam

Жыл бұрын

@@kale6264 It isn't so much cringe as it is not realizing just HOW MUCH computers have changed things. The 15 terabytes of storage in my PC is probably more digital storage than existed ON EARTH when MLK was murdered. Fifty years has brought a lot of changes.

@patrickday4206

7 ай бұрын

To a point but the Canadian passport was statistically impossible scar on hand and four head

@jackryan4313

7 ай бұрын

@@60sSamyou're probably not wrong. If I'm not mistaken, my TI Inspire calculator that I used in school 4ish years ago (top of the line one, with color and all for calculus and everything) has more computing power than what we had when landing on the moon. I know for a fact our iPhones do (not sure about androids, lol). But like...people really don't understand just how far computers have come. And how life is utterly different. Hell, I bet people have never stopped to think about official government ID documents worked pre computers, and would be shocked when they actually sat down and thought about the fact that there was no "national database" and what that would entail

I am also a truck driver that loves listening to all your content. As something I've heard many times before, "follow the money". Who was getting payoffs to lie or move the needlein a certaindirection? Surely they know not to put money in the bank, but it gets spent one way or another to find the corruption. This is another story that really is framing how twisted special agencies inside our government can be. All across the world this happens.

@user-lv7ph7hs7l

Жыл бұрын

Also J. Edgar Hoover's FBI is like THE example of that in a democracy in modern times.

The biggest problem with american education is actually that people dont remember what they were taught. I have had classmates claim to have not been taught something when I clearly remember being there when we were taught just that. That is what happens when you are required to pass a test and never really remember the information again.

I remember in high-school (back in the 90s) we spent a week talking about this. I don't remember all the details we went over, but the end conclusion the class came to was that the FBI didn't directly kill him, but that it was highly likely that they were very aware of threat against MLK and did nothing to stop it. They may have also acted to keep police and mafia types out of the way as well.

@patrickday4206

7 ай бұрын

That's what cointel pro did is try to get groups they didn't like to attack each other an fbi program

"fugitive...can't get a gun..." the wicked snort I did at this as an American. As a child, I visited a friend's house and found a pistol between the couch cushions in a fairly affluent area, so I imagine a felon could find one fairly easily.

@ericg7044

Жыл бұрын

Especially in the 60's. I'm sure he just went to the store and bought it, no questions asked.

@nicholaslewis8594

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking “this dude has multiple identities and there was no national database for the store to check”, I’m pretty sure as long as he isn’t posted all over the news it doesn’t matter😂

@windhelmguard5295

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholaslewis8594 even if it did matter, it's not like a wanted fugitive known for breaking the law is going to follow the law. hell the guy bought them illegally under a fake ID so it's not like any sort of database would have stopped him and if it did, he could have just gotten one illegally.

You can tell how happy Simons family makes him, that's so adorable 😭🥰

I forgot about the sanitation Union part of the story, Simon is getting a crash course not just in the hellscape that is u.s. civil rights history but also US Labor history.

@justsomeguy5628

Жыл бұрын

I don't even think he realized while saying it that the script casually mentioned sending strikebreakers, which meant at this time that people would just be sent to murder members of unions(and sometimes their family as well). I know it isn't unique to America, but it is still wild that people just forget that these kinds of things were happening in the 60s-90s, and to a slightly tamer extent is still going on.

I’m an embalmer and I listen to your stuff while embalming 😂 it’s interesting and the long videos are especially good, since i have gloves on while embalming and cant touch anything 😂

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

This was literally me at work before writing for Simon as well, except my gloves were covered in blood not formaldehyde lol

Eyy, this was the one I was saying that I believe in back in the JFK video and Kevin said he allegedly might (maybe) be working on. Excited to see it finally drop. Like that one, this one has the basics that most conspiracies fall flat on. Certainly doesn't help the government's case that they *blatantly* assassinated Fred Hampton the next year either. Edit: Oh yeah, when he says Hoover was "anti-communist" he means that he abused his power and used personal prejudices as an excuse to surveil and harass people for decades. He was known to have blackmail on politicians and was, as I understand it, basically corrupt beyond comprehension.

@timfriday9106

Жыл бұрын

same. words out of my mouth. i'm wicked excited about this one. I think JFK/MLK/Bobby Kennedy are all in the same vein. would love a video on Bobby's assassination as well.

@davescott7680

Жыл бұрын

Cheeky Google. Holy shit!

@brendakell4304

Жыл бұрын

@@timfriday9106 He did it three years ago: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oGurrqxwicy4Z9Y.html

@brendakell4304

Жыл бұрын

"The Story of Robert Kennedy and Sirhan Sirhan".

@pjpredhomme7699

Жыл бұрын

beyond comprehension pretty well describes it .

Nothing will surprise me about the government, anymore. Unless they become honest, moral and selfless; that shock might kill me.

@erickiyoshiphillips2323

7 ай бұрын

Exactly I'll never trust them. After 911 and the lies of us going to war for 20 years and not admitting they were wrong is scary. It's scary they could do something right infront of our face and deny it

I’m in the same generation as Simon and in middle school (10-14yrs) my teachers taught Holocaust and WWII history all year round and put up a “token” poster in February for Black History Month. All that is to say, even with teachers who were pointedly not focused on the subject, I still learned a ton of this history. Maybe it wasn’t from school, maybe it was from PBS or similar tv programming. As an immigrant, it wasn’t like my family or family friends had any first hand experience or stories to learn from either. Reading these comments about how little people were taught/remembered about the Civil Rights movement is actually concerning. I thought I was ill-informed but wow something is deeply wrong…

It's interesting to me that in these huge govt agencies you could have an entire career doing nothing but absolute good or you could have a career of doing really shady stuff. It's crazy that they're so big that they can be both the good guys and the bad guys at the same time.

@jonnyreinhardt1961

Жыл бұрын

Are there any cases of the FBI doing good?

@jonathanwatson268

Жыл бұрын

@@jonnyreinhardt1961 sure, the FBI has been instrumental in providing investigators and resources (especially technologies) to countless criminal investigations that would have floundered without them. I listen to a lot of true crime and in a lot of stories I've heard, the local police were unprepared to solve the crime but when the FBI stepped in things fell into place.

7:40 - Mid roll ads 9:05 - Back to the video 10:55 - Chapter 1 - Walking in Memphis 19:20 - Chapter 2 - The march 28th riot 24:25 - Chapter 3 - The Assassination 32:00 - Chapter 4 - International manhunt 44:25 - Chapter 5 - James Earl ray's story 59:45 - Chapter 6 - The shaking evidence against Ray 1:11:55 - Chapter 7 - The FBI Vs Martin Luther King Jr 1:22:15 - Chapter 8 - The FBI king suicide letter 1:26:25 - Chapter 9 - Suspicious events on the day of assassination 1:36:15 - Chapter 10 - The loyd jowers trial 1:40:30 - Wrap up

@deelee4639

Жыл бұрын

Bump

@donnamealy4877

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate these time stamps, but wonder how long it takes you. I am laughing so hard thru the videos, I’m having to rewind to catch what I miss. 😄

I don't know how many more conspiracy theories actually have the legs for this sort of deep dive, but please bring on any that are out there! Excellent work, Kevin, Simon, and crew!

@87isbmw

Жыл бұрын

che guevara?

@user-lv7ph7hs7l

Жыл бұрын

9/11. And I don't mean thermite and all that shit. It was Mohammed Atta and a 767 is the perfect skyscraper removal device and it did not collapse in freefall and the fire protection was actually shit and in the process of being renovated. No I mean that the CIA and the FBI each uncovered part of the plot and passed that information on to the administration. Basically an attack is imminent, what do you want us to do? What happened after that is much more interesting than pretending like things that happenee, did not. Such as saying United 93 was shot down. It wasn't. Dozens of passengers called their families , the airliner was skimming the ground at low altitude after it had been taken hostage. No Cheney and Rumsfeld were up to something. A large attack was perfect for them. Halliburton got the contracts, Afghanistan made sense but what the f*ck was Iraq? That's reaching pretty far. But they had to take what they could get and that was letting and old friend finance a special operation and making sure it wouldn't be stopped. Of course they betrayed that old friend and made sure he wasn't taken alive. I don't know what happened but there's a lot of smoke there too. And again. Those floors collapsed when the burning kerosene weakened the brackets supporting the floors between the structural outer shell and elevator shaft in the center. Each floor was like a book shelf, supported by steel brackets. These brackets where covered in 50 year old fire protection that had worn away and the replacement hadn't reached much past the 20th stories in either towers. As the steel brackets heated up they became soft and the floors collapsed onto lower floors, also damsged by fure initiating a chain reaction of hundreds of tons of concrete smashing onto succeeding floors. This didn't happen at freefall. 5-7 m/s/s or so. Not 9.81 m/s/s. Just follow the money and all trails lead to Halliburton. I don't know what they told the cokehead but he sure as hell was distracted and my gut says he wasn't directly involved. But who the hell knows. Whatever happened it'll never be declassified unredacted, just like whatever the hell happned with JFK.

@jlo7770

Жыл бұрын

Look up the kids they found on the railroad tracks.. it isn't a "conspiracy theory" when there's so much evidence to prove it as fact vs theory

@GoodDocGonzo

Жыл бұрын

McCarthyism Red Scare

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! ❤

when you are on strike you do get a strike pay. But the only way to get strike pay is if you attend a picket line (March or protest) if you just sit at home you don’t get any money at all. So it’s good to be apart of these picket lines.

7/28/2023... that “extra terrestrials never landed in Nevada” bit aged well 😂🤣😂

Spoilers: they allegedly 100% killed him and a bunch of other civil rights leaders.

@MicahRibbentrop

Жыл бұрын

Need to make that allegedly in all caps, don't want you to have any accidents

@azuregriffin1116

Жыл бұрын

@@MicahRibbentrop or a tragic fall into depression that ends with digging his own grave in the middle of the desert, committing suicide with two bullets to the back of the head, and falling in such a fashion that the mount of dirt landslides to cover him c:

@_KaiTheGamer_

Жыл бұрын

​@@azuregriffin1116 or tragically drowning in their own backyard pool, despite signs of strangulation and there not being any water in their lungs.

@marre5469

Жыл бұрын

@@_KaiTheGamer_or tragically going missing only to wind up in a nearby location, suspiciously, with gunshot wounds that couldn’t possibly be from him/her, the victim, yet it’s labeled a suicide.

@justsomeguy5628

Жыл бұрын

What? The US government assassinating enormous amounts of its own citizens for protesting for civil rights & liberties as well as reform? That is literally so crazy. They said they didn't do that, and we all know that the government would never lie to us.

I genuinely love that Simon’s wife and kid came by to spend some time with him. Because, while the part of the video before they came by was usual Simon shenanigans, there was a marked cheerfulness afterwards that truly seems genuine. So hopefully Simon isn’t raising serial killers. Oh wait…this is DTU, not CasCrim. Anyways…I stand by it. No parent is perfect, but a good way to not raise serial killers is to be happy to see your wife and kid randomly during the day. 13:37

@leisti

9 ай бұрын

Maybe that's just what they want you to think?!?

@83gemm

3 ай бұрын

You can tell he LOVES his family. I love his little tangents about them. It’s so sweet. If you listen to Casual Criminalist, too, any time there’s a hint of a kid being in danger, he gets so depressed. He always says something like, “Oh, no! I have kids! I don’t want anything like this to ever happen to them!” He got himself properly depressed once thinking about it.

Simon: "Kevin this episode is gonna be so long what are you doing to me!?" Also Simon: - already had 3 tangents-

49:09 so I know a guy who has been best friends with a black guy since middle school. Every time the guy says something that could be interpreted as racist (very often things about video games or just discussing politics or even talking about figurine painting discussing the color of paint he's using) the best friend will respond with, that's racist. And probably 70% of the time the guy will say, "I can't be racist, I have a black friend, your my black friend [name of best friend]." And then the two of them laugh because they are well aware that it's a meme at this point. They sometimes set each other up for the joke. They've been friends for over two decades.

Driving a box truck for 7-14 hours a day, I still managed to constantly occupy my brain between all of your channels. I feel like I’m learning and making more than if I stayed in school

@WildLastFrontier

Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong. I've learned more from youtube outside of college than I ever did within.

@jaylol7226

Жыл бұрын

simply put: you are! Heh. A college degree costs tens of thousands of dollars, puts you in debt for 20 years on average, and degree holders have lost 19,000$ a year in salaries on average since the time MLK was definitely shot by the FBI. I never obtained a degree (not by choice mind you) but I work alongside degree holders who make less than me sometimes because I spent that time gaining on-the-job experience so my resume is better, allowing me to more easily get a slightly higher paying job. A degree means less and less in capitalism over time because of the natural cycle of devaluation of workers in order to increase the profits of the upper class. Taken to its extreme (see, today), when this goes on for a very long time, you have massive wealth inequality and a faltering education system due to budget constraints and profit margins. Larger class sizes, less teachers who are paid probably less than you are now left to deal with rooms full of unruly children, the poor things, and of course, they teach no practical real-world skills in school anymore. Imagine how nice it'd be if people took courses in how to analyze news or research, how to properly do their taxes, etc. I got lucky. My 6th grade drama teacher took an entire month out of her curriculum to teach us about the dangers of propaganda. My 8th grade math teacher took a week to teach us how interest works and to tell us to never get a credit card or apply for a loan. Those brave souls have saved me SO MUCH hardship and sharpened my mind. And PS: watch out for automation in your sector, self-driving semi trucks are a thing and as soon as they're ready you may face a lay off. Let's hope the company you work for thinks it costs too much to replace you with a machine and doesn't do it.

Another suggestion is "Garry Webb" and how the CIA definitely absolutely killed him.

"Well that was nice! It wasn't a delivery person, it was actually just my wife and my kids!" Had me cracking up at how wholesome that was

Love this channel! Been binging the channel since I found it last month!

Simon is so innocent! 😂 Strikes don't work when everyone goes home and drinks my man 😅

@nicholaslewis8594

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he was saying that the city being covered in trash would speak for itself.

@trevorwilliams6362

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholaslewis8594 exactly! 😊

Speaking of Atlanta, the Atlanta Child Murders (which Simon might remember from the second season of Mindhunter) would be an excellent topic for a video, either on this channel or the Casual Criminalist. There's also a truly excellent HBO docuseries that everyone should consider watching.

@nicholaslewis8594

Жыл бұрын

Really hated how that was the end of the show, they spent all season catching a dude and the evidence against him seems kind of shaky (especially considering I’m pretty sure they used hair sample analysis, which isn’t DNA and kinda be) or at least he was just one of multiple killers.

@TheLegPumpkin

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholaslewis8594 there has always been levels of disbelief around the man they convicted, ranging from the sensible like the police having tunnel vision and arresting a suspect that fit the profile rather than the facts, to a proto pizza gate conspiracy.

@TimesFM4532

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholaslewis8594 mean he is defiantly a murderer but he was used to end the panic

Simon I absolutely love your videos. I drive for Lyft and I always have one headphone in my ear to listen to your podcast throughout my shift thanks for the content buddy

Jfk and this one best 2 episodes by far! I love your work, Simon and crew!

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@treylooker6567

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatWriterKevin You are very welome.

Great video. In the US, if you don’t pay a ticket or don’t show up for a court hearing, the judge can (and likely will) issue a “bench warrant”

Little idea for a next DTU Video: the mysterious death of Frank Olson (CIA Agent)

I am one of the truck drivers listening to your content at work. I think I'm subscribed to everything in the Whistlerverse.

The FBI killed Fred Hampton. This is an established fact. It's not much of a stretch to think that they would have killed MLK. As this video pointed out, MLK got increasingly radical toward the end of his life. He spoke out on issues not just of race but of US imperialism and capitalism. This was during a time when the US was squashing out anything that resembled socialism. They were fine to let MLK talk about peace, love, and racial equality. Those don't threaten US economic hegemony. The one part that doesn't make sense to me: if James Earl Ray started recanting on his story and claiming to be a patsy, why wasn't he simply killed? I guess maybe they knew he couldn't prove it. But it still seems like they'd want to cover their tracks.

Quick note on the upgrading of the rifle caliber from a 243 to a 306. When Ray was told that a 243 was enough to hunt any deer in Alabama, and said he intended to hunt in Wisconsin, he may have been referring to wanting to hunt moose or bears, not necessarily “sturdier deer”, which would explain wanting a larger caliber. Of course, his hunting story was fake anyway, but this would probably have been enough to explain to the seller why he wanted a larger rifle without anyone finding it odd

@squillz8310

Жыл бұрын

Also, Ray wasn't a "highly skilled marksman" like the FBI said he was. He barely knew anything about firearms.

@sniperboom1202

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 30-06 is also still considered to be pretty much standard hunting round. When my grand uncle clearance came back from world war II, he got an m1 Grand and would load it with heavy bullets for hunting deer. Getting shot in the face by one of those. You're not likely to survive. Doesn't matter where you get hit the sheer kinetic energy would have likely killed King by the end of the day.

@mejuliie

9 ай бұрын

@@squillz8310 He wasn't a "highly skilled marksman" 10 years prior to the shooting, when he was still serving. That's a loooong time for things to change. Not saying that he did commit the crime, but alluding that the proof lies in something he was bad at a decade ago is just as speculative. Also, the best place to learn to be a criminal is in prison. Not that he would train his riffle skills there, but if he was an agreeable enough dude, he'd learn where to get fake ID's and such.

@Wolfpak765

7 ай бұрын

Where does a half wit criminal obtain 3 passports of three real people from another country who miraculously happen to look almost exactly like him?

@Wolfpak765

7 ай бұрын

Also if there wasn’t someone telling him to get a specific rifle, why would he care if he got a .243 instead of a 30-06?

My Gov/Econ class in high school was literally 100% the teacher teaching us about conspiracy theories, I'm not even kidding

For those that don’t know, at one point in time, a money order was the “poor man’s cashiers check.” It was the equivalent to cash. Stealing a stack of money orders and the printing machine was counterfeiting.

Fantastic episode. Love the length.

Short answer: yes Long answer: yes it was proven in court

Love how Simon doesn’t appear to connect/understand that King had limited options for where to stay and that the media/officials/general public generally didn’t care much about his safety. In reality many in media and public wouldn’t have minded harm coming to King. Racism wasn’t (sadly still isn’t really) a fringe idea it was common place and the mainstream opinion particularly in police but really generally. Also wait till Simon learns about Fred Hampton…

@2yoyoyo1Unplugged

Жыл бұрын

Look man it’s pretty clear to see that Simon simply didn’t think of that. It isn’t an intentional slight on his part.

@justsomeguy5628

Жыл бұрын

He was literally declared the most dangerous man in the US and authorized any use of force or power to be used against him without any authorization or question. The US government probably isn't assassinating any more people, but we honestly don't really know, as it definitely was happening as late as the mid 2000s.

@WHIPLASHVideosTBT

Жыл бұрын

​@sixstringpsycho look man, it's pretty reasonable to call out stupidity when you're confronted with stupidity

@2yoyoyo1Unplugged

Жыл бұрын

@@WHIPLASHVideosTBT Stupidity and ignorance are two different things. Heck, naive ignorance and enforced ignorance are two _more_ different things. It’s obvious hearing him talk that Simon’s not stupid. What he is is naive of some things that we take for granted because he hasn’t had much exposure to it in his life, which I don’t think is fair to hold against him. I personally hope his life stays removed from a lot of the ugliness out there in a lot of people’s day-to-day lives.

@w4tt58

11 ай бұрын

It urks me how many people view America as the pinnacle of racism while ignoring the fact of how the middle east, a lot of countries on the African continent, and some places in the Caribbean has had a long and on going history similar if not worse involving targeting minority groups via genocide or just generally refusing them basic human rights. But yet, we are viewed wildly as the most intolerant country while at the same time have the most diverse mix of culture when compared to any other country. That doesn't change our past, but instead of cheap grandstanding. Try and fix the other countries that actually need your help.

Great episode. This was definitely eye-opening in all of this info. Have to agree with the tree and bushes removal in the middle of the night part. The James Earl Ray is an easy patsy bit too. I had known a lot of the JFK stuff but this was all new to me. I think Simon needs to redo his James Earl Ray Biographics video...

This video is a field day for simon out of context clips

Trucker here, can confirm, I listen to Mr. Whistler for hours.

Hahaha I loved the part at 3:30 where you end up doing an Aussie accent. I’m Australian and straight away thought it sounded like us. I’m actually impressed how well you did it hahaha

Trash compactor (industry term is a “packer”) crushing incidents is exactly why now a days we are required to shut off the PTO and engine, and additionally turn off the battery disconnect, and red tag lockout the battery disconnect before entering the trash area to clean it out.

god, now i really want Kevin to cover the Olof Palme assassination. that one’s unsolved in spite of having like, 20 witnesses.

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

I'm certainly open to it, though I do have one quick question: who the fuck is Olof Palme?

@ExperimentIV

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatWriterKevin i didnt see this reply! i actually sent you a couple DMs about it. he was a prime minister of sweden. the murder is still unsolved, and it’s just a mess. so obviously there’s a lot of conspiracy theories. bonus: i can pronounce any names you need if you want to make simon’s life more difficult by providing transcriptions (but i’d absolutely make sure to provide a proper anglophone pronunciation so simon wouldn’t have to learn about the sje-ljud haha)

As a fellow British person in school they did infact teach me mainly American history AND conspiracy theories including Martin Luther King assassination conspiracies My history teacher loved all the side stories ahaha

@CraftyVegan

Жыл бұрын

My history teacher did, too. We were kinda taught about how some people thought the moon landing was done on a holly wood soundstage, but it was in a “let’s use our critical thinking skills” kind of way, but Kennedy and King were taught as “I’m not legally allowed to say this is anything but a conspiracy theory but follow the evidence”

@confuzedpenguin9974

Жыл бұрын

Same I was in the UK and we got taught some of the murkier stories

@aleshiamusick8109

Жыл бұрын

Im a child of what they call SOLs in VA. They dont have time to make anything fun now. They are lucky to make it through what they have to teach for the testing. Literally have a awesome teacher give up on it and literally starting teaching the questions from the test that was released from the years before. I mean no actual history book. No progression through time and events, cause and effect. Just the answer to this question of you see it is this. Over and over all year

@IntermissionPrairieWolf

Жыл бұрын

Very jealous, they didn’t teach me any of that and I’m from the south in the states

@lissaw4

11 ай бұрын

@@aleshiamusick8109 what does SOLs mean?

Simon's youth shows in his commentary, I was born in the 1950s and used to visit both Canada and Mexico and never got a passport until much later . And yes, before computers everything was much slower.

@StoneInMySandal

Жыл бұрын

US Citizens didn’t need a passport to travel to Canada or Mexico until 2007.

great videos and great investigations.Bill

I don’t see how it’s even a conspiracy if they truly dug up the bushes and cut down the tree.

In America, the oldest Black American born with the same civil rights as anyone else is 55 years old. Every Black person older than this was not born equal, their equality was legislated. April 1968 was not that long ago.

@DW-ts5ki

6 ай бұрын

Wrong. no one is free or equal. $ separate the ppls.

Like the JFK one, I have a feeling Simon may be swayed by this one.

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

I have a strong feeling you may be right

Every time Simon says “thirty-oh-six” it makes me chuckle.

Simon, in the early sixties there was a British rock band called The Invaders.

I'm not a conspiracy fan, but it would disappoint (not surprise) me if the FBI was involved, especially looking at their track record the last few years. Hoover was a huge racist.

@the_once-and-future_king.

Жыл бұрын

He was also very gay and loved dressing as a little girl. So much for someone big on striking down on 'immoral' behaviour...

Wendigoon’s video on this topic was also phenomenal, highly recommend that video.

@alc4528

Жыл бұрын

Wendigoon also stays on topic unlike Simon 😂

Please amplify the audio, even on max volume it's hard to hear, recurring problem but this one is particularly quiet

13:06 - The look on Simon's face as he remembers the term "bin lorry"...

This has got to be the hardest working man on KZread. Every other month I find a new channel he's putting up content on.

@samsoncooper1

Жыл бұрын

Bro all he does is read. If he researched each video too I would agree but he only reads. Anyone working 12 hour shifts works harder than Simon

I live for these deep dives into American History.

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed!

Trucker here, love this .... these channels

By 40 minutes into this video, it felt like someone got some Casual Criminalist in my Decoding the Unknown lol

Iv been watching Simon since before he had kids, it’s been a great journey Simon keep up the good work mate, from Ireland 🇮🇪

@SLorraineE

Жыл бұрын

I know, right? It's been fun to hear his little anecdotes of his kids growing up!

I. Love. These. Deep. Dives!

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I love writing them

My second favorite Simon channel outside of Brain Blaze, being my #1. I love all of your channels though. All S tier.

One thing to keep in mind, the city of Memphis sprawls across state lines so it would be very easy for any crime committed there to become federal.

Video request! Could you please cover the story of Gloria Ramirez, who apparently in 1994 caused people treating her in hospital to become unwell. EDIT: Request is specifically for a Decoding the Unknown episode. I don’t care if it’s been done elsewhere. I want the deep research dives by this channel’s writers and Simon’s reactions and tangents.

@theeniebean

Жыл бұрын

seconding this - it's such a wild story

@charlesmuench2021

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, a very interesting story.

@The_SCPFoundation

Жыл бұрын

Isn't she "the toxic lady"? If so, I think Simon covered it. I know Joe Scott, Mr. Ballen and many others have as well and the mystery was solved.

@MrMossMan7272

Жыл бұрын

I believe they covered her already? I looked through the videos and didn’t see it but I distinctly remember Simon talking about her before. It might have been in one of the internet mystery games videos

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

@@MrMossMan7272 It was not in one of those. It may have been on TIFO or something rather than this channel. If the above commenter is correct and it is solved, then it'd be a pass from me. I don't like writing about solved mysteries for this channel

regarding communism at about 1:12:30 ... the red scare really did a number on popular american vocabulary. I've had more than one person tell me very seriously that any taxation at all is communism. all hail the omniscient Free Market, I guess.

Excellent video, I do realize this video took quite a while to make.

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I know you from Top 5 Unknown right? Either way I like your voice so I’ll subscribe

As usual guys, a very well written and read episode! It’s always nice when Simon get on board with a conspiracy! But they may find out when those files are declassified that it was really ghosts of long dead aliens 😂

@ThatWriterKevin

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!❤

I learned a lot more about MLK Jr in school granted I am from Alabama. We even took a field trip to the church where he was preacher and the Civil Rights Institute.

@bamacopeland4372

Жыл бұрын

being for Montgomery we took took a field trip there and The Rosa Parks museum. 8th grade field trip was too Memphis and was told of the Inconsistencies in the "official" story.

@KnightOwl1881

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, a good chunk of history class in OH was 1960-1968. I really think people zone out in history class and then proclaim "we were never taught that" or...the history teacher decides to skip a few chapters...

@bamacopeland4372

Жыл бұрын

@KnightOwl some do zone out but history class was were I paid most attention. But then again learning history is one of my biggest passions

As an American I remember learning about the civil war and world war 2 and the civil war and world war 2 and the civil war and world war 2 and the civil war and world war 2 and the civil war and world war 2 and the civil war and world war 2 and well you get the point. We repeatedly learned about those two things over and over with brief breaks with other things.

This video is insanely well put together, and I also drive and listen to your stuff, but the volume mixing on this is extremely hard for me to handle when I need to turn the volume all the way up to hear you speak about the topic at hand, only to have to turn it down within 3-4 seconds from you screaming or talking loudly about something. Lol Normally driving is totally fine while listening, but I deliver newspapers in the middle of the night with my windows down and in very quiet neighborhoods, so I'm resorted to having to find something else to watch because it's too annoying to constantly monitor the volume 😂 Obviously I'm a unique case, but I figure I ask to see if maybe it was a possibility to work a bit on the volume mixing. Much love fr