Song Similarity : 2:28 - Koopa Road 4:31 - Crisis City

@AlexlikeissaMinecraftandroblox

8 ай бұрын

Hey is the power puff girl intro song

@Tarquin23

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for saving me time. This is such a non video

@user-ny7oi4dr8x

5 ай бұрын

nah its not the smae

@DaSnickerLicker

4 ай бұрын

I KNOW I THOUGTH OF IT TOO

@qwrtzii

3 ай бұрын

eh, they kinda sound the same, but I wouldn’t say that it’s a copy and paste

tldr: these two songs share ONE chord progession That's it, I saved you six minutes of your life

@taemien9219

Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment speaking the truth.

@SynoPTL

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of how I should stop procrastinating to save more time in my life, thanks

@Ryderboycolor9

Жыл бұрын

Exsactly

Five fucking minutes of padding just to get to "Koopa Road sounds kind of like Crisis City if you squint".

@xr_366

Жыл бұрын

jesus no need to hate so much

@weegle.

Жыл бұрын

@@xr_366 this video is entirely pointless and the actual “meat” is like 50 seconds

@TeeTop_

Жыл бұрын

"if you squint" lol I was watching a stream of Sonic 06 this past week, heard the soundtrack to Silver's Tropical Jungle stage, and those notes stood out to me immediately.

@Cade_The_Squirrel

Жыл бұрын

@@TeeTop_ Care to explain?

I've straight up never seen someone make so many mistakes in explaining music while not even actually explaining the music

I'm no musician, but calling these songs identical because they both have a section with 4 notes linearly escalating upwards is extremely farfetched

@user-kq9rb7yy4j

Жыл бұрын

it's KZread, they gotta pull content outta their ass

@unsmart42069

Жыл бұрын

@@user-kq9rb7yy4j it's KZread, there's at least 2 channels dedicated to music theory, and then this guy just spouting bs.

@Cade_The_Squirrel

Жыл бұрын

KZreadrs were never good

@abox1942

Жыл бұрын

@@Cade_The_Squirrel what about pewdiepie

@indigoguy12

2 ай бұрын

@@Cade_The_SquirrelHey!

Dude went through the whole mario and sonic lore to show us two songs

@EpicNika

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t that what Matpat does?

@axl256gamesx7

Жыл бұрын

​@@EpicNika but matpat does it right and to tell something

@ronathanjonathan257

Жыл бұрын

@@EpicNika you right, if someone else does it then it can’t be wrong

@sashascool

Жыл бұрын

@@ronathanjonathan257 the game's lore and other random crap have NOTHING to do with two fucking songs that barely have anything to do with eachother. Matpat actually conceives theories and even if he DOES say random crap that isn't related (which he barely does) he actually makes it entertaining.

@TroyToaster001

Жыл бұрын

But you watched it didn't you?

That's called a chord progression. You can't steal one.

@whatthecorn

Жыл бұрын

This man ☝️: “Well, according to my calculations…”

@BeegChaosControls

Жыл бұрын

@@whatthecorn ☝️🤓

@DemoniTed

Жыл бұрын

@@BeegChaosControls 👆🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

@big_goop191

Жыл бұрын

@@DemoniTed Well, Actually what happened 🤓🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

@carinajmoreno

Жыл бұрын

@@big_goop191well actually ☝️🤓

“First, we’re gonna need a little history” Why?

Imma just say this: nobody owns a chord progression. This kinda thing happens all the time in pop music.

Actually you don't need to be a music student to know they're not the same thing 😂😂😂

@malcolmali915

Жыл бұрын

He said the some notes were the same not that THE WHOLE NOTES WERE THE SAME

@georgecornwallace3518

Жыл бұрын

@@malcolmali915true

@unsmart42069

Жыл бұрын

@@malcolmali915 alright well uhh 1. im having a stroke trying to read this 2. he said they had the exact same 5-note progression (yes, he said 5-note)

It’s almost like there are thousands of other songs with the same progression

@commanderdemonno9819

Жыл бұрын

he's disabled dislikes he probably knows

@xavierlime06

Жыл бұрын

​@@commanderdemonno9819 dislikes are disabled for every KZread video now though.

@CS-om3kj

Жыл бұрын

@@commanderdemonno9819He disabled dislikes 90% of people don’t even have the plugin to see dislikes anyway lmao 💀

@xavierlime06

Жыл бұрын

​@@CS-om3kj oh that's why

This video is like trying to reach the minimum word count in an essay.

as a musician, the songs are 100% NOT the same.

@sweetpataterz8738

Жыл бұрын

Why do you have to be a musician to recognize that they’re not the same lmao

@sluntcayer7521

Жыл бұрын

Apparently you need a PhD in Human Biology to define what a woman is so...

@Itz_Muffo

Жыл бұрын

As a musician I know that I make music

@xboydubose7254

Жыл бұрын

Yea, there's an uncountable amount of songs that use the same chord progression, it's bound that that would happen with two popular game franchises

@LOKI_THE_HEDGEHOG

Жыл бұрын

Yes you're right there is just a little difference

This entire video is the definition of "He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit"

This dude just discovered chord progression

@SageRexWasTaken

Жыл бұрын

ikr

Bro knew how awful this was and thus disabled the like button EDIT: And put comments on newest first by default to avoid showing good comments

@horpuscorpus8299

Жыл бұрын

ikr, bro might as well hide the video to save face.

@arthuramd3867

Жыл бұрын

@@horpuscorpus8299 lmaoo

As a music student in high school band, I can CONFIDENTLY SAY that this is a HUGE STRETCH to say that SEGA copied a 4 note chromatic that just so happened to sound “similar” to Mario64. “Not placing blame” my a-double-s.

@lordsuinax3470

Жыл бұрын

"aas"

@MaricCraft

Жыл бұрын

@@lordsuinax3470 … double-s makes two a’s?

@lordsuinax3470

Жыл бұрын

@@MaricCraft wwwwwhoops. Yeah, guess I'm the aas, my bad

@littleawesomeapple

Жыл бұрын

@@lordsuinax3470 lol

2:28 Koopa's Road 4:31 Crisis City ~The Flame ~ Skyscraper ~ Whirlwind ~ Tornado~ nah, it's just you imagine what would happen if every song was accused of plagiarism for using 4 similar notes from another melody.

one of the biggest wastes of time ever

@weegle.

Жыл бұрын

@@MortonMcCastle still probably the first time I ended a video asking “that’s it?” in like a year

As a person with functioning ears, the songs are 100% NOT the same.

This video took nearly 5 minutes to get to the point and it was embarrassingly a stretch

A 6 minute video on how ONE song happens to sound similar is crazy

@sayanston1634

Жыл бұрын

7ish minutes

@Real_ToeJammer

Жыл бұрын

@@sayanston1634no is not

"oh my goodness gracious 4 notes going up in pitch every bar in another song!!!! obviously stolen!!!!!!!!"

@bunayogaming_q2841

Жыл бұрын

Dude… seriously…

@LadWithTheHat

Жыл бұрын

@@bunayogaming_q2841 i know right bro it's almost like i'm being sarcastic isn't that insane

Hey, as a musician, I've come here to say that its very likely that its not a "stolen motif" Its a very simple note progression in the minor scale that gives a feeling of anticipation or possible danger. Hell I've used it a few times myself. I'm sure if you really wanted to, you could find it in songs for other games as well. Great video either way

@axl256gamesx7

Жыл бұрын

Even I could see that I never studied music

@axl256gamesx7

Жыл бұрын

@@ThisIsLiam I fit more on the "class clown" role, but ok

@CarlosHernandez-el4oc

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the chords are rising under the bass pedal point The rainbow road themes do this but in major keys

I actually had to check if this was uploaded on April Fools. It's obvious that Nintendo doesn't just *own* a chord progression. Where even is the argument here?

Never let bro cook again😭

Five notes going up 😱 what a very unique and unheard of thing to do

@unsmart42069

Жыл бұрын

not even five notes

@abox1942

Жыл бұрын

omg 😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨❗❗❓❓

Pianist of 10 years here. I see where you’re finding the similarities, but there’s some big problems in the analysis. 1) Songs use the same/similar chord progression all the time. Crisis city and loops road happen to share the same progression - you’ll see this occur in pop songs, game songs, etc.. There are even notes/chord progressions so popular, they’re given names (for example, the Royal Road Progression or the Dies Irae melody). This isn’t a good way to determine if a song is stealing from another. 2) Other than this chord progression, the songs appear quite unique from each other. If Crisis City had used the same melody as in Koopa Road, then this would make more sense. However, the songs are unique in their own respective ways. It’s cool to see the similarities between the two songs, but you need to consider more factors before making a conclusion like this. Nonetheless, I hope you continue to make neat musical observations like this and improve your analyses.

“If you look at the sheet music they’re indistinguishable” crisis city is 3 octaves moving stepwise, koppa road is a sustained 5th in the bass with 4ths moving stepwise on top. There are some similarities but they are not indistinguishable.

It’s called a *Chord progression* That’s kinda how music works

BLUD IS ONTO NOTHING 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💀‼️‼️‼️

@sonicthehedgehogDX

Жыл бұрын

you just summarized the entire video into 4 words and 12 emojis lmfao

Bro thought he discovered something special 💀

You can't steal a chord progression, otherwise all of jazz would be theft

It’s a similar movement, but I hate to point out that this motif is used all over the place. It’s literally an ascending minor scale. This is used in rock music as well along with several other video games. It’s also used as the intro riff to His World

Bro it’s just the same chord progression, pop music does the same exact thing.

In this case, these are both chord progession simalarities, and because of how finite short chord progressions are, it is impossible to copyright something like this, all these songs have in common is a 5 chord progression, which is most likely coincidence, and even if it is copied it would be impossible to sue over.

@bubbab6733

Жыл бұрын

For example, listen to a popular 60s blues rock song, and then any other 60s blues rock song, and they will sound "the same" because of the chord progressions

Sega didn't copy Nintendo with anything. 🙄 what is it with Ninweirdo fantards coming to HATE on Sega for no go reason??? 😂😅

4:31 the part you're actually here for instead of 4 minutes of filler and the answer is no, they didn't steal it, it's just a coincidence

@nobodys_here07

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark's Goldfish for saving 4.5 minutes of my life

@elio7610

Жыл бұрын

Thx, sure is a lot of filler. I am skeptical of the conclusion that "it was a coincidence", we just do not know.

It’s a chord progression you’ll hear pretty much anywhere if you pay enough attention. It’s just how music works, chord patterns will be used by any and every musician. Listen to Flying Battery, Inkwell Hell from Cuphead, and James Bond’s theme.

@ChrisSmith-po3di

Жыл бұрын

Actually Inkwell Hell and Flying Battery zone sounds similar, but have different notes. Same with James Bond's theme. Same pattern, different notes

@AethoriousMC

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSmith-po3di Yes! I'm not sure what it's called, but that four note chord pattern is common amongst those three, though they're in different keys. Was just pointing that out, there are chord similarities in pretty much any song out there

@ChrisSmith-po3di

Жыл бұрын

@@AethoriousMC Right? They are all incredibly similar

The note progression is a lot more common than you might think. In fact, the soundtracks for The Matrix movies all have instances of this note progression.

@moraldilemma1159

Жыл бұрын

Yeah baby! Clubbed to Death! I was thinking the exact same thing!

If he feels the urge to make a whole video after finding 4 notes that happen to be almost identical in 2 unrelated games then he’d have a stroke if he heard just about any 2 songs from undertale

@mariotheundying

Жыл бұрын

"WTH HOW UNORIGINAL CAN THIS GUY GET, OMG HE DID THE SAME WITH THE FOLLOW-UP GAME BRUH"

It's just a I, II, III, IV scale with whole notes. Crisis City is in Cm and Koopa Road is in Dm.

The content is located at 2:16 - 2:50 and 4:28 - 5:24.

@lemoncakestudios3031

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's my bad. I should've thrown in a time stamp.

I like Sonic Better than Mario... there, I said it. Are you going to say I copy nintendo too??? Lol

@VranxEI

Жыл бұрын

Well thats a strange comment because it dosent mean that you copy nintendo you just like mario types games but you rather to have WAY WAY TOO MUCH THINGS HAPPENIG AT ONCE (i know you can get used to it)

Yfw you hear a normal chord progression:

Nintendo doesnt own chord progressions bro

just to clarify, CHORD PROGRESSIONS ARE NOT INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, JESUS CHRIST

@Azulado-hp5uv

Жыл бұрын

ok

@Skeleton_Dork

Жыл бұрын

Seriously, any legitimate musician or composer would slap this man in the face if he came up to them trying to convince them this is plagiarism

Buddy forgot coincidences were real

I dont like being rude, but this is probably one of the worst made videos ive seen, It provides useless background information and causes the main topic of the video to be at the end and like other people have said, the songs are not at all the same, many songs use the same chord progression but still have their own melodies. Also this is just the awful Ed Sheeran trial.

@Chaocast

Жыл бұрын

I think the background information was the best part of the video, sure it wasn’t needed but it does show that the creator of the video put time and research into this video.

@sperkyjerky

Жыл бұрын

@@Chaocast I think you're right, i just believe it would've been better in a different video

Man does not know chord progressions exist

this video literally made no sense and had no reason to be made lmao

As a non musician I can confirm, Nintendo did not invent rising notes in that scale. They just share that scale, dude. Your def overthinking it.

It is literally just a really common leitmotif. I bet there are a lot of songs that has the same progression heck actually I'm learning to play trumpet I believe I played a song that had a similar part to that.

i absolutely love the fact that literally half of the video is just him rambling.

I hate how badly the Sonic games and other properties are treated when people put so much into these. Like the music and animation

@BigJDawg4523

Жыл бұрын

Well, not all Sonic games

5:23 _No_ *Crisis City:* C, D, Eb, F *Koopa's Road:* AD, BE, CF, DG with DA throughout in the bass. They're not even the same notes. Also... Crisis city uses single notes with octaves. Koopa's Road uses chordioids + dissonance. These are just partial scales, or stepwise motion. It's very common. You do need to be a music student apparently.

Bro set comments to recent LMAO

@FairFuse

Жыл бұрын

Also disabled liking/disliking, so even with the extension to show dislikes you can't see lol

the most awful comparison ive seen yet funnier part is how he got comment bots. ive spotted multiple.

If people got copyrighted for using a non original chord progression 99% of composers would be criminals

@SupraViperhead

Жыл бұрын

There have been a LOT of lawsuits these last few years of artists suing and being sued for their generic chord progressions and melodies.

@fabianski987

Жыл бұрын

@@SupraViperhead yeah but like 99% of them were proven innocent

@abox1942

Жыл бұрын

@@SupraViperhead but who

I don't think Sega would intentionally skirt causing copyright problems, and if Nintendo felt they were being copied, they likely would have already gone after Sega for it.

Quite frankly, to say that a shared intro chord progression (which is, to be clear, what this is) constitutes "stealing" is stunning. Haven't you seen Axis of Awesome's "4 Chords" vid? Or listened to electroswing? Don't get me wrong! I love being included in things; I just want to make sure that I'm actually there.

As wise musician Will Wood once said "the nature of song writing is that there are only 12 fuckin' notes!"

Michael Jordan 1996 Space Jam type reaching on this one

It's just a simple progression that goes up the natural minor scale. The progression may only contain fifths and no major/minor thirds, but it would simply be a i-ii-III-IV progression or something similar.

"getting to the point of the video" challenge (impossible)

People find any reason to make videos

You do realize that chord progressions can sound similar without being stolen, right? These songs are barely similar at all. Even the part with similar chords is a different tempo and instrument. I honestly dont even think this was worthy of a video lmao

@pooksthepossum

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I second this comment. This video was really just reaching... Ehhhhhhhh 🤷🏻‍♂️

@ChunterInfo

Жыл бұрын

This video explains the same situation in a different context kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqSdlsZsibCdabQ.html

@TreeDocs

Жыл бұрын

@@ChunterInfoNah without looking I know u lying

@Deathtendo

Жыл бұрын

@Roroprin He said that in the vidio

1) You can't copyright a chord progression. 2) These aren't even the same chord progression. By this logic. Take On Me by Aha and Don't Stop Believing by Journey are the same song.

Not to be annoying or anything, but you do realize this is part of the song is quite literally just a directly ascending progression, D-E-F-G, and I guarantee you you can hear this very simple progression in many other songs. Hell, I can even think of Nintendo songs that use that melody, perhaps one of the Castle themes is what I’m thinking. Also, while yes, the main notes may be the same, they still have different, (mind I am not very musically inclined) backing notes for the progression. I’m sure this simple note progression sounded foreboding and the composers liked it. Not to burst your bubble, but seriously. This isn’t a big deal. When my memory decides to kick in, I’ll put some songs with the same progression in the replies section of this comment.

@greenisnotprimary

11 ай бұрын

The Mega Man X2 Reploid Factory track uses the same progression, yet again, at the beginning of the song, backing up what I said about being foreboding.

Nintenerds these days lol

it's a pretty common "buildup" progression used in a lot of compositions, all pretty unrelated to each other. and in video games in particular i can point out quite a few such as Meltdown 2 from Cave Story, and Cutscene 4 from the PS1 Cyborg Kuro-chan game. It is essentially a composing tool more so than a... melody to be taken from something.

Blud is onto NOTHING 🥶🥶🗣️🔥‼️

Remember, when any article title contains a question, the answer is usually "No". So it is here. Silly argument, clickbait title. That's a "no" from me.

Not even close.

@EndingRetrograde

Жыл бұрын

You aint no producer bro 😂

@Shmicabodien

Жыл бұрын

@@EndingRetrogradeand how do you know?

@ApernosOffical

Жыл бұрын

"im a producer because i said so"

@EndingRetrograde

Жыл бұрын

​@@Shmicabodien "because im a producer ☝🤓"

@purplehoodie0644

Жыл бұрын

​@@EndingRetrograde he literally makes music on his channel

Funny thing about songwriters, many draw inspiration from a competitive source. Like how Pokemon Black and White had Celestial Tower/Dragonspiral Tower/Giant Chasm theme sounding very similar to Chrono Trigger's Secret of the Forest.

as someone who knows an ok amount about theory, it's a common chord progression. definitely a coincidence. not in a rude way, but i dont think you need to know any theory to figure that out either

This guy feels like a half-baked, Dollar store version of Game Theory

Well, in music, there's one thing called chord progressions, and a lot of songs use the exact same chord proggression. If the main melody was similar i could consider this an option, but the only clear similarity between these two songs are the chord progression you mentioned, because if you listen to crisis city, you'll notice the melody completely changes after a while, and doesn't sound similar to koopa road anymore. also a curiosity that no one cares about: they're not in the same key, koopa's road is in D minor, while crisis city is in C minor lol.

It's such a simple chord progression, in a different key, different style... I'm sure there is other music out there with similar things (Mega Man 1, Wily Stage 2). It really doesn't sound like copying at all. I've heard many similar bits in lots of different music. You want something that was copied? Hear "A Searing Struggle" from Ys III, and "Forgotten Path" from Jim Power.

the best part of the video was when you made marge simpson out of clay, the rest felt like filler

@rubberspatulacosplay

Жыл бұрын

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@Roroprin

Жыл бұрын

Real

As someone who’s a musician, I can tell you that this is a very basic start for many songs. Just 4 whole ascending notes. You said those notes are basically the same when it’s just the progression that’s the same. Crisis city’s chords are 3 c’s in a different octive while Koopa road uses a more dynamic progression. They both do their job at setting up the song. I’ve played many video games and performed many songs, you hear songs that have a very similar feel to it or even the same progression. For example, the American in Paris Suite has a progression that’s very similar to certain Star Wars songs yet it isn’t stealing. Stealing is just simply copying a peice of music for a part of a big part of song. Not to get confused with sampling or plagiarism where the line gets blurry.

Did Lemonkake Studios STEAL the name from Lemoncak3?

@starstrike6241

Жыл бұрын

How the tables have turned

I mean, it's a simple 4 chord rise. It's more shocking to not find MORE things like this.

One thing you need to understand about music is that there is a finite amount of chord progressions out there (at least on the 12-temperament system). Things are bound to be repeated. Although the parts are similar, one can't say they're copies. The chord progression works very well in both songs, and adds the impact they need. This chord progression specifically is used a TON by a LOT of people making intense songs. Now I am not saying all of this as criticism, but rather for you to learn something new. I bet that if you look in other big games, movies, etc. You'll find that very exact progression.

Well, considering that most pop song are using the same chords / chord progression, and are still not considered copies of the others, I think we can let this slip

It’s literally a scale, you can barely call it a motif. (A scale is like (A,B,C,E,F,G) You can find many songs of today using a scale chord progression let alone pieces from orchestral pieces way way way older than these background music. If Nintendo were to try to sue Sega for it, it wouldn’t work because it’s literally a scale. Also according to the photo in your video, Crisis City is written in Bb major and koopa road in C major. Notice how many people are commenting that they’re similar to other songs? It’s scale

@chandlerpaulk4518

Жыл бұрын

Hmm... I feel like Crisis City is written in Eb, but I could be wrong. Lol

@MagicalCopper

Жыл бұрын

@@chandlerpaulk4518 It was based on the photo, should have specified

its a chord progression, it's not like they share a melody

Crisis city still clears and is more of a banger especially in gens 😅

it's just a simple walk up the minor scale. 1-2-b3-4

It’s a basic chord progression actually. It is similar but not really copied.

Sonic Team chose the levels in Generations due to polls they made for the fans to choose their favorite levels from each game btw

Nintendromes when they finaly crawl out of their basement and see the sun for the first time (How did the universe dare to copy Super Mario Bros 3's evil sun): 😮😮

Okay imma stop here at 6:17, this is not unique to Mario & Sonic and happens in countless other pieces of music, it’s more common than you may think, and it happens because as with all things there’s a known ‘formula’ that’s proven to work that just gets remixed over and over. And as for Generations, Crisis City was actually down to a popularity fan poll, the stage just so happened to get the most votes, so SEGA & Sonic Team just went with that when deciding on what Stages to include, it was really a great time to be a Sonic Fan around that time.

Ahhhh the infamous "Copy" Card Nintendoo-doo love to play 🤣🤣🤣🤣

imma just say, sega didnt really steal, you cant steal a chord/note progression, but i like the video anyway, i never noticed the connection lol

Dude it's FOUR NOTES THAT ARE IN A VERY BASIC PATTERN

Clickbait alert

@marklowenstein6995

8 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if this is clickbait

They simply share the same chord progression, another example of this would be the “Peaches” song from the Mario movie using the same chord progression in Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley. However its also just generally a popular chord progression, so it doesn’t make sense to compare it specifically to the most popular song that used it.

@aidenvera5920

Жыл бұрын

Now I just want Jack Black bowser to sing a rickroll

@Zinkle_

Жыл бұрын

@@aidenvera5920 real

@aidenvera5920

Жыл бұрын

@@Zinkle_ 🙂

....this could of been a 1 minute video.

@Ashfold_Eberesche

Жыл бұрын

*could have

@Made2Slash

Жыл бұрын

@@Ashfold_Eberesche could've*

@horpuscorpus8299

Жыл бұрын

@@Made2Slash *been a short

@sirtopoftheworldegg

Жыл бұрын

@@horpuscorpus8299 *could

Imagine thinking that a company owns 5 notes.