A good indication that something is overpriced is that it takes an expert to tell the difference between a real one and a fake!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Very good point! 👍

@the_snopro

Ай бұрын

Price is only what you will pay for it. There are lots of alternatives for watches. If you can't afford a Rolex don't buy one. I know it's hard to feel emotion through text, so I am saying this statement in the least rude way possible.

@JavierHuerta

Ай бұрын

So true. When a chinese knock off can't be reliably identified, and costs 30X less than the real thing, you know the real thing is overpriced. I know that because I own a Starbucks sub, and bought a replica, so as not to risk the real thing so often. At times I've confused the rep with the original. The only way I know for sure which is which is by looking at the serial number.

@20cent

29 күн бұрын

@@the_snopro Being able to afford doesn't mean you should. Or judging something as overpriced doesn't mean that you can't afford it. When a manufacturer with lower means and resources can make a 98% perfect copy of a product at 10-100x less than the genuine cost, only a vapid and dumb person would still justify and argue about one's ability to buy said product. I'm saying this in the least rude way possible.

@rkstevenson5448

23 күн бұрын

I honestly don't get why these guys making high-end knockoffs don't just start their own watch lines. I get that you don't have the "pedigree" of faking the brand name, but some of these fakes are so well-made that you'd think they would want to establish themselves as their own thing.

The only difference between Dentistry then and now , is that in the past it hurt physically , now its usually financially .

I laughed out loud when you removed the back. Brilliant!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😁

@ramblerandy2397

Ай бұрын

​@@VintageWatchServices Hearing that very British exclamation "blimey", did make me chuckle. 😁

@maxwellmcdowell3744

Ай бұрын

Lol same here😂

@ademyers2741

Ай бұрын

My jaw dropped too!

@jonazanteo

Ай бұрын

@@ramblerandy2397 for a moment there I thought he moved across the English channel and jumped back once again

"Whew" ~ Franco

I'm quite amazed to see that you didn't have to replace the rotor axle. Those are notorious to go on the 31 family. Also the clip wares down.

Good to see a pair of jewels for the mainspring barrel bearings. Some only have a jewel on one side, some none at all. A great example of the watchmaker's art. Thanks for your work.

Wow, the finish on that movement just blows my mind, that Said, in the “good ol days” the finish on a pocket watch could go even further in beauty and not to forget,back in the day, it was made by hand. Thanks for the nice explaining throughout your service 👍🏻

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😊👍

@wertj3977

Ай бұрын

The finish is just okay, nice perlage and striping. But to the level of blowing one's mind? The high horology watches today can go toe to toe with old pocket watches when it comes to hand finishing. Lange handwerkunst, Phillipe Duffour, Romain Gauthier, Grand Seiko micro artist studio, just to name a few.

@john-paulsilke893

Ай бұрын

It’s a trash finnish compared to a Patek. Still it’s obviously beautiful and in my eyes deserves a sapphire backplate. Honestly the Rolex 4130 movement although not finished like boutique brands is in my eyes the most beautiful. It’s like a Ford GT-40 in its ferocious and simple design unlike the clearly more beautiful Ferrari super cars. To be honest I’m more of a Pantera guy so not even that level of detail and beauty. (Look up those cars, beauty but only from 15ft away. Just brutal power with nothing but power and savagery without purpose. They don’t handle, they don’t feel good, and close up they are dirty and ugly. But they are powerful and really cool.)

@the_snopro

Ай бұрын

Ever look at a Lange or PP movement? They are pretty decorated

@wertj3977

Ай бұрын

​@@the_snoproLange, yes. A Patek is finished to the bare minimum for haute horoligie really. There is a reason why Phillipe Duffour says the greatest watch from a non independent watchmaker ever made is the datograph and not a 5070p.

Nice seeing you again ❤

Fun video to watch as always. The bit about the torturers and dentists was pure gold!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😂👍

I'm glad to see that my initial thought was right -- it's a genuine piece from the late 80s, early 90s generation.

@BoatNectar

Ай бұрын

Spoiler alert?

Thank you for sharing this most instructive video, dear Stian: 👌👍👏!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

My pleasure, Yves! 😊

Very nice job as usual. I always love that you explain everything you do or about to do. I would like to know what you charge foe an overhaul. Thanks.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks, Ralph! You can send me a mail to stian@vintagewatchservices.eu with information about your watch, then we'll take it from there

Outstanding Franco!! What a relief, I wonder how good of a deal you got 😊

@andrewwolf4430

17 күн бұрын

My fake Rolex I bought in 1990 in Singapore cost $17.

a dentist once explained to me that I should enjoy and respect the pain since I was the one who disrespected the teeth earlier... - most dentists I have been to were torturers, I am glad that I have found my dentist after a long, intensive search - thx god, good dentist do not have to be torturers. Thanks for the channel and your always super interesting videos.

Nice! The fast jumping data function seems to be a good way to spot a fake one without even open the watch. It is probably the most expensive and difficult mechanism to reproduce without making the watch lose some some seconds close to the jumping time due to friction.

@DutchClawz

Ай бұрын

What do you mean? The instant date flip isn’t hard at all.. sadly there are a bunch of movements that show the same function as the real deal..

Thank you for another great video, Stian! Leaving out the hacking lever/bar when reassembling a movement has to be one of the most common and annoying oversights. One question regarding the epilame/fix-o-drop. I don’t know how much epilame surface treatments have changed over the years, but the epilame used by some movement makers such as Omega decades ago on the movement plates and bridges was very durable. It would survive a few cycles through ultrasonic watch cleaning machines. If Fix-o-drop is anywhere near as durable, I doubt that using pithwood to clean it off the escape wheel pivots will actually remove it. It might be interesting to dip the pivot into a drop of 9010 after cleaning it in pithwood to see if the oil is still repelled or not.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Oh yes, that hacking lever lying there in the tray when everything else is not... Yes, the epilame is said to be that durable still. But it comes off more easily with physical rubbing, which is why it comes off in pith wood and also on the pallet jewels when the escape wheel rubs against it. But it might indeed be interesting to see what happens after prodding the pivots into the pith 🤔

Wonderful video; but what else can we expect. I was thinking last night, that if they made watches 20 times bigger, I might just be able to service one like you. You're dealing with 'nano lego', while I'm struggling with 'Duplo'. All the best Stian, tusen tak for your great show.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😂 Thanks so much, Michael :)

Another entertaining video. Thanks for sharing. I have the newer 42mm white dial version in my collection and it's my go-to travel watch besides my Tudor BB GMT black dial.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Very nice, Steve!

I always enjoy your video's, especially the cleaning and repairs, of various watches.

Thank you for saying that Rolex are overpriced. Most successful marketing in history. Except maybe DeBeers.

@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv

Ай бұрын

I was trying to explain this on another thread. I was recounting how a submariner cost £360 back in 1980. Someone replied to my comment that couldn't I understand that it was simply inflation. I think the price increases since then are a lot more than inflation.

@jameshisself9324

Ай бұрын

@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv It's so ridiculous now that the market is full of speculative buyers, in it for the 'investment'. Never mind the immense risk of treating a manufactured product as a commodity, but they have paid a price for that lately. So absurd. A tool watch. Turned into a trinket-investment-luxury brand through ignorance.

@grzegorzmontar8432

Ай бұрын

​​@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vvAverage wage in 1980 was £500/month, now £3000. 6 times more. £360×6=2160... where to buy Submatiner at that price now 😂?

@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv

Ай бұрын

​@grzegorzmontar8432 thank you this is the point I was trying to make when I was pounced on by the world's leading economic expert. Rolex prices are 30+ what they were in 1980 way above inflation. Basically in the 2000s they revamped themselves in a higher luxury sector of the market. I was a junior clerk in the civil service in 1980 taking home about £350 a month an older worker would be averaging about £500 as you rightly say. Even I an 18 yo junior clerk could aspire to a Rolex. Today a submariner is a £10k+ watch. The 18 yo civil service clerk would need to be earning £120k per year.

@jameshisself9324

Ай бұрын

@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv Pounced on? I thought we were agreeing. I'll ignore that 'expert' wise crack. 😆

I'm not even a huge Rolex fan, but for some reason they are my favourite brand for videos like this. Like you said, things just seem to fall into place, and while not as elaborately decorated, I enjoy the simple and smart designs of these movments. It makes for a satisfying video of their servicing. Thanks!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great video mate I always enjoy watching you work on watches

@VintageWatchServices

9 күн бұрын

Much appreciated, Andy!

Beautiful work.

2 meters of snow but no cooling, you should stop trusting your dentist 😂😂

@stevemahrer7097

Ай бұрын

Up hill, both ways… and we were lucky! Rather Pythonesque humour, love it! Great work, thanks.

Yes Stian, your dentist story reminds me of Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen sketch. "Ohhh when I wooz yoong, we used to get up in the morning at half past 10 at night, half an hour before we'd gone to bed...." Recently I had a root canal and crown. The pain on one particular treatment was so bad I passed out in the chair. I'm an active type, mechanic by trade turned long distance truck driver. I live off grid, cut my own firewood so the point is pain is not unknown to me. Without hesitation I can state this, my 2nd root canal treatment, exposed me to the most pain I have ever felt in my life - including an arm break where my fingers were almost touching my elbow. My system just couldn't handle it and out I went like a light. I never passed out when I broke my arm. Woke up drenched in sweat then had to continue with the treatment after they gave me an orange juice. I had a 14 hour shift starting 1 hour after the treatment. And they say you can't remember pain ROFL... I'll never forget that day in this or the next 10,000 lifetimes. Re cats, down here in Australia it's not unknown for us to have a deadly snake or two about the place. In fact they're common. You haven't lived until you've had an eastern brown in your house. Cats are exceptional snake controllers. Snakes just don't like cats. My gnarly old male (GRHS) dealt with them decisively while my other cat watched on. Now she won't tolerate them. Since the cats are around no more snakes or rodents. A necessary evil are cats.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😳 I'm not a religious man at all but I'll happily pray to all gods that ever existed to avoid that experience... Ouch And yes, cats are very fascinating. Their reaction times are two or three times faster than a snake can strike, so I can imagine they're great to have in a country where everything can kill you :) Australia is a fantastic place btw, with some of the nicest people there are 💪

@mellifluousfable

14 күн бұрын

I would suggest that you’re either someone who has a resistance to the anaesthetic or that you need to find a different dentist. I’ve had two root canals in my time and have never felt a thing. In fact, I think I fell asleep in the chair at one point for a minute during the second one.

Brilliant, like always!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks, buddy!

Great video and perfect service of this watch. But who aligned the hands before you get that timepeace? Is that Rolex original?

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

I don't know but I would guess it was not done by Rolex

As always another great video always entertaining

It always is a pleasure watching you work on a high quality movement. On the other hand, now that the alpine snows are melting, isn't about time for you and your watch hunting moose to go out and find a rust bucket special to bring back to life? You and the family continue to be well.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😂👍

I have an Omega Seamaster. It got to where it was losing about half a minute a day. I sent it to Nesbit's in Seattle. It wasn't cheap but they serviced it and it came back beautiful, operating very smoothly and losing 2-3 seconds a day. It was fun watching this to get an idea of what's inside a nice watch.

Within the first few seconds I noticed the hand stack is correct. ✅ Then you demonstrate the jumping hour. ✅ Serials ✅ correct movement and cam type movement screws ✅ All looking good so far and it's a lovely watch 👌

Loved the dramatic sound effect of the case dropping onto solvent in slow motion

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😊👍

A very nice video as usual. Thank you. Would you mind sharing some names of watches brand that you feel are a good value. I'm currently interested in Blancpain and Glashutte Original (with exhibition case backs). I don't expect to be buying an A. Lange Sohne any time soon.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks, Robert ! I actually think Glashütte Original is pretty good value of the high end brands, but the cost is off course still quite high

@cedarcanoe

Ай бұрын

Think GP of the 1990-2000 era, and JLC from 2000-2010. Both can be had for little money and are great quality

Fascinating video !

Absolutely in AWWW when I see a watch disassembled. Pure craftsmanship at its highest level.

I immediately thought it was a fake... Then you ''opened'' it! Ha, ha, ha... The actual movement is so very beautiful.

Fascinating, thank you.

Not that I intend to take up watch making. I’m just totally fascinated with your skills and the mechanics of watches, but the strength of those springs would frighten the life out of me. Another great video Stian. Stay safe. Mick.🇬🇧

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks, Mick 😊

Veldig fin Explorer 2 og alltid gøy å se på service av urverket 👌🏻

In my humble opinion Hans Wilsdorf was more of a marketer than a watchmaker. The marketing of Rolex is probably a factor that drives the demand for their watches. I like my Rolex but it cost me way too much for what it is.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Oh yes, Wilsdorf was a business man, not a watchmaker 👍

Thanks so much for getting back to me.

Hilarious movement reveal! Haha. Thanks for this video. I'm looking to get one myself, so this is a nice reference.

@VintageWatchServices

28 күн бұрын

Thanks, Jimmy 😁👍

Great close up shots , brilliant,

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Many thanks!

Love the skill on show here.❤

@VintageWatchServices

19 күн бұрын

Thanks so much 😊

Great editing!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks! 😊

Excellent work my friend 😁👍👍

Subscription because of the cat observations! Oh, and also because of the fine level of skill on display. Thank you!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! 😊

Pure genius. Thanks!

Your storytelling and pop up banner text is great.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks! 😊

It's a beautiful watch. It is not ostentatious and very handsome. I would be happy if I was the owner of this watch. Great video.

Excellent video. Very educational and interesting. Well done.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

thank you for this another remarkable video!

Fully agree with you. As the old adage goes: If you want to impress someone buy a Rolex. If you want to tell what time it is, buy a Breitling.

@Pommezul

Ай бұрын

I will rather get a seiko 5 and keep the rest at my bank

@greatchalla3799

Ай бұрын

@@Pommezulsome people know the price of everything and the value of nothing! 🤔

@joeskeptical4762

Ай бұрын

*To know the time REALLY WELL, get a Timex Ironman. It will remain accurate to within a few seconds PER MONTH.*

@andrewallen9993

Ай бұрын

If you want a watch as tough, reliable, robust, shockproof and waterproof as a Vostok Amphibia but with a rubbish bracelet and more accurate out of the box buy a Rolex. You have to regulate your Vostok to COSC specifications yourself after you have run it in for 6 months however.

@TrimeshSZ

Ай бұрын

I like the Grand Seiko quartz watches - the spec is +/- 10s a year, but all the ones I've personally seen are far better than that. I measured my personal watch over a year and it gained 2 seconds.@@joeskeptical4762

WOW! Sir. Your Videos Are always so Calming.,, Well For us Viewers.. LOL... you are a genius! With The Patience of Job. Very Well Done Sir.. Cheers. :)

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

So nice of you :)

"Hang on, that was the wrong watch." 🤣🤣

your friend has got himself a very nice watch

More than one way to skin a cat. Love you sense of humour. Great work and well explained. Yes Rolex definitely over priced and over hyped.

for this specific watch, when u wound up/adjusted the hour, there was already a slight sign that it is real. haha the "wiggle test". this specific 16570 movement at that time, if u adjust hour independently, theres like a little bit of "wiggle/wobble" on the 24hr hand. that is evident of the genuine movement, for this specific watch at that period. they probably fixed it at the late 3186 movement. but yea, haha

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Yep, you're absolutely right, that's the giveaway that this is a 3185 movement and the only really visible difference to the 3186 :)

THANKS,,,,GREAT VIDEO !!!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it, Greg!

i mean, if the price seems too good to be true, best to stay back but luckily the watch turned out to be genuine.

That is one of the most underrated models Rolex produced. Awesome watch.

My goodness that was mesmerising watching you dismantle and reassemble,

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😊👍

Great video, as always. Loved the cat section. If you haven't seen it already, the New Yorker magazine ran a cartoon with two cats and a cave woman, where the cats are saying to each other "we can kill and eat her now, or we can let her live and she'll feed us for the next 15 years." The title of the cartoon is "The First Cats to be Domesticated."

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😂👍

3:00 Both the real & fake watches have beat up screws. At some point in the past, somebody was in there messing around that shouldn't have been.

Très génial, fantastique, c'est l'art de reparation professionnel, très réussi, ravi de suivre tes vidéos intéressantes, merci beaucoup

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Merci beaucoup !

I had a Sea-Dweller that had a ETA 25J automatic movement. Really nicely made and very good quality. I heard that some of these Chinese counterfeit Rolex movements are so close to the original that parts are interchangeable with the genuine Rolex movement...

Stian, hows your project coming along?? For some reason, inspite of me having subscribed, the notifications dont come through. Btw, out of interest, did you perform a P test on the case? Kind regards from the Forest of Blackness. Mike

@VintageWatchServices

14 күн бұрын

Hello Mike, I did a pressure test on the case indeed, but my tester is a dry one so it's not very interesting to see in a video :)

@mikesage9544

14 күн бұрын

@@VintageWatchServices And your project??

@VintageWatchServices

14 күн бұрын

@@mikesage9544 Which project is that? I don't remember 😁

@mikesage9544

13 күн бұрын

😂 The secret one that you don't want to talk about!!! Though, I feel sure I know what it is... Mine has faltered. Involves iwc 7906. Neither are for this level of communication. Stian, lubrication of plastic or nylon pinions. Extreme light oil? Y or N? Will message you. Bw von zer Fazerland. Mike.

@VintageWatchServices

13 күн бұрын

@mikesage9544 Aha! 😁 Yes, it's coming along nicely and I'll disclose more quite soon, I hope :) Plastic/nylon does not have to be lubricated.

I see that you have had a similarly deprived childhood to myself. In my case, when going to school, I, too, have had to trudge through meters of snow. Uphill. Both ways.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😁👍

Yay!!! A new video! Question for you… I have a watch with the same (kif I believe) shock settings, and for the life of me, I cannot find them. One of mine is broken and needs replacing…

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

You might be able to buy some at a material house like cousins

*Good job, Stian. It's nice to hear impartial comments from a non Rolex fanboy who knows many watches. Rolex timepieces are good but too expensive. I have one and believe in them BUT the prices are eye-watering.*

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

This

This I a comment about Dentist you made. I am one and do not see my self as a sadist more like a helper for pain in the teeth. But I like the work you do one the Rolex. It is also very fine and very small parts. Using a microscoop is nice instrument and I also use for rootcanals and that is fine work and to reliëf pain, not to gif pain. Good luck whit watchmaking. Greetings Mike

@VintageWatchServices

17 күн бұрын

Thanks, Mike! I trust you understand my comments about dentists are very much tongue in cheek 😉

I very much enjoyed watching this video with your narration. Thank you. This is a dying art.

I Have That Exact Watch - Love It....! Mine Has Pagani Design On The Dial For Some Reason Though....?

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😂👍

Every single time that you use those Tweezers, everybody reading should respect that 100% of accuracy to remove the tiniest of parts, cannot be done by anybody so deftly & skillful in their preferred life's work. Many of those tiny parts are springs which are also in some tension or compression. If (for example), I attempted to remove all parts, those tiny parts store enough kinetic energy to propel those tiny parts (at a high speed) - and never to be found again!! It's happened to lots of us! Sir, you have a very special skill! Greetings from Australia.

@VintageWatchServices

7 күн бұрын

Thanks, Peter :)

I'm kind of shocked to see a Rolex with a blank caseback.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Pretty much all Rolexes have plain case backs...

Have one of the last few production with 3186 mvt. Lovely watch.

A great job done, and I love the humour! Yes, cats ARE the best, we have a Bengal. Also, GMT's are my favourite, but I can only afford the Citizen RMC GMT!

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Rolexes are very overpriced... Citizen is a very solid brand!

Incredible work, you got my sub, good joke on the case opening too lol....

@VintageWatchServices

7 күн бұрын

😁 Thanks for the sub!

blimey 😂 that was gold

Fascinating.

The crème color on the dial how’d is this

You failed to mention that it was uphill both to AND from the dentist as you walked through the snow! ;-)

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Sorry, I thought that was a given 😎

Are lubricants all 'period correct' or has chemistry and synthetics improved what is used?

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Oh, lubricants have improved immensely over the last few decades. You don't have to go many years back before organic lubricants were commonplace, nowadays they're pretty much all synthetic. That makes them last much longer.

@InsidiousDr9

Ай бұрын

@@VintageWatchServices does this mean service intervals can be longer?

One thing that I noticed, was that (before the Watch became Hermetically - Sealed), wouldn't it have been better if the common air was first removed, and replaced with N2 gas. There would be absolutely no humidity whatsoever, to form minute reactions (inside the Watch and trapped forever), and acting negatively on all internal metal parts. I have never heard of any Watch Maker ever doing this. But do they? I hope that they do this - on extremely expensive Watches. It would be a cheap operation these days, to replace with N2.

@VintageWatchServices

7 күн бұрын

Hello Peter, it would indeed be much better to not have air inside the watch but it's not that straight forward to pump air out and some other gas in. Helium is used in professional diver's watches and then you also need special valves etc. Air in itself isn't a big issue to the metal parts, it's when you combine it with moisture that you really have a problem on your hands :)

When the Dentist found out that the next patient was a giant watchmaker he remembered when he paid for his last Rolex service and it was now payback time I mean Hammer Time. What no trouble in paradise. Keep well from New Zealand 🇳🇿

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

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I love this. Keep it up.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I have one similar on my wrist. The difference is, it has my own logo on it

Cats pretend they are irracional, so they don't have to work.

I am a dentist for the past 34 years. As a child I was always good working with my hands and building model airplanes. Maybe it is one of the reasons why I like watching watch servicing videos. I have converted several phobic patients, who now say that they enjoying visiting me.

@VintageWatchServices

10 күн бұрын

Very nice to hear :) Dentistry has certainly progressed a lot over the decades, my 8 year old daughter actually really wants to go there!

Quick question - as you said you didn't know how long it was since the watch was serviced, why didn't you replace the mainspring?

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Because the mainspring was in good condition, not kinked, flat and not set

Thanks!

Really enjoyed this presentation. I'm sure happy with my 1998 version.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

The moment you put it on the timegrapher… I figured it wasn’t fake… I came across a high end fake and the movements aren’t that accurate. It was a super fake and it wasn’t terrible on the timegrapher but it was along the lines of a cheap Seiko automatic.

9:33 wipes my phone screen thinking it was dirty (parts on mat)

That is a beautiful EXP II with a wonderful patina!

Excellently done....

[Fun(?) fact] I don't drink and don't do drugs. At my age, i can get the same effect by standing up too fast. (internet wisdom LOL) PS Luckily not at that age, so.......

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

😂

My dady bought one NKUWAN and he loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when he went out with it.

Lovely job mate..thanks❤😂😂🎉🎉🎉

Very nice, thank you again. I chuckled at your overpriced Rolex comment... so true for so many but to each his/her own. It did make me take out my Hamayota Adventurer and strap it on... beautiful Explorer near-twin and surprisingly accurate once I went through it. Regards.

@VintageWatchServices

Ай бұрын

Well said!