Did Mamamoo disband? (explaining their contracts)
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I hope I didn't mess up the dates and there's still a lot more to this but I wanted to keep it short and straight to the point so people stop spreading misinformation
I hope this clears rumors.
#mamamoo #마마무 #solar #솔라 #moonbyul #문별 #wheein #휘인 #hwasa #화사 #kpop #girlgroup #shorts #shortsvideo #shortsfeed #disband
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This video came out before Hwasa's 1st comeback with Pnation but her comeback is out now!! It's called "I love my body", give it a listen if you haven't yet 👇🏻 kzread.info/dash/bejne/daalwciLhpO1YKg.html If you'd like to know more about Mamamoo + I posted a video explaining everything! 👇🏻 kzread.infop8XBfZAen_0?si=bkynqyOCIRs-_uSs
It's *very* rare for members to change companies but remain in a group together, and I think it shows how vital each member is to Mamamoo that RBW allowed it.
@inzaghiscornsalad7034
9 ай бұрын
I know, only Monsta x, 2PM, and mamamoo are still working I think
@ahgacababeumetiny-Lshawol
9 ай бұрын
@@inzaghiscornsalad7034got7
@user-zo2hv1zv1d
9 ай бұрын
@@inzaghiscornsalad7034Apink and SNSD too
@ifallapart2000
9 ай бұрын
No it’s not.
@mella9658
9 ай бұрын
@@user-zo2hv1zv1dApink lost a member after she changed a company.. and SNSD didn't make a cb as ot8 for so long.
It's hilarious how Mamamoo is turning into a supergroup instead of a group because half the members are under different labels.
@shivonne
9 ай бұрын
True they're a supergroup 🤩
@1MarkKeller
8 ай бұрын
Super Unit?
True, they've said multiple times they plan to continue together indefinitely-although ofc like Solar said in a recent interview, it may be harder to do stuff together since they're not under one label. ❤ That said, it does seem like they really do plan to still do some things as a group when they can. Case in point, when they recently performed together at that Scouts jamboree. 😊
@wj6782
8 ай бұрын
Don't forget that RBW holds most of the rights when it comes to Mamamoo. So the Fact that the members what to Continue Group activities, means they have to make an agreement with them. RBW does appear to want the group to continue. But... Now you have THREE companies that have to agree to terms, and schedualing. Along with the 4 members individual scheduals. It's going to be a logistical nightmare.
As Mamamoo all emphasized they have utmost love for the group and wish to continue as well as pursue their individual goals. Mamamoo have been consistent during their worldtour saying in different language that Mamamoo will continue💚💚💚💚 And I trust and believe in them our 4 talented Vocal Queens. Gonna support all of their solo, subunit and group projects😊😊😊😊
‘MAMAMOO WILL CONTINUE’
MAMAMOO forever 👑👑👑👑
like SNSD too, some of them parted away from SM but they managed to make comeback together last year...
I think what they've done is a clever move... they're able to network and reach a wider audience this way, without breaching their contracts, especially given the music industry in Korea. That's a Boss move... Queens on another level!!
thank you so much for this! my moomoo heart is at peace ❤️
Thank you for this explanation!! I was really confused 😅
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
Ofc! I hope it helped 😊
i saw mamamoo when they toured here in the states, happy to be able to witness the queens in person
I saw them at their NYC concert. They promised they would be back. They are not just a group they are a family.
Just remember guys, Mamamoo is a brand and that means any company can buy Mamamoo right's for promotions, singles, album or stage performance, that's why Hwasa didn't need an extended contract with RBW to keep going as a Mamamoo member ( She bring the whole group to Dancing Queen on the Road and did the Jamboree's performance) as long as PNation can pay the right's fee she can performance or make new songs with Mamamoo. Sadly, we can't say the same for Wheein, she need to either change to a bigger or richer label/agency that can pay for her or TheL1ve do that once her extended contract ends. It would be the same for Moonbyul and Solar if/when they leave RBW.
@wj6782
8 ай бұрын
PNation isn't that big... Bigger than L1ve yes But Hwasa WILL have to make some sort of contract/agreement with RBW. You say "Mamamoo" is a brand... RBW holds most of the rights when it comes to Mamamoo. So the Fact that the members what to Continue Group activities, means they have to make an agreement with them. RBW does appear to want the group to continue. BUT... Now you have THREE companies that have to agree to terms, and schedualing. Along with the 4 members individual scheduals. It's going to be a logistical nightmare. IF Solar and Moonbyul leave it becomes EVEN harder, because at that point RBW will want EVEN more guarantees for them to continue.
@Rivera_Olga
8 ай бұрын
@@wj6782 About the logistics you are right, it's going to be a nightmare for the 4 but not imposible, and that's why Solar said future activities as Mamamoo were going to be harder to do, not because they can't but by scheduling. And yes RBW hold the rights BUT they are a Public Company, which means anyone with enough money can invevst in them or pay the fees, this means members themselves and even fans. In fact, a lot of moomoos do that (esp chinese ones); many sell official mamamoo merch not like resellers but as owners. And no, Hwasa doesn't need a special agreement/contract because Pnation already said they will support her activities as a Mamamoo memeber, wich means they will invest/pay for the group but once again is a matter of shcedules.
@wj6782
6 ай бұрын
@@Rivera_Olga PNation saying they will "support" Hwasa's activities with Mamamoo is just PR. Agreements will have to be made, and yes contracts will have to be signed. These are Companies doing Business... Money is the bottom line. The Members are Friends, the companies are not... And will want things CLEARLY defined and IN writting. So there is No confusion, and everyone knows what they get. As an aside PNation has issues keeping Idols... Jessi, Dawn and HyunA are just a few that have left.
@Rivera_Olga
6 ай бұрын
@@wj6782 Hwasa recording with Wheein 17 Clip for the L1VE and her recently perfoming a Mamamoo (Solo) Medly in All Night Stand concert tell me pretty much that PNation IS willing to let her do all the Mamamo activities she want, and is obv that day she wanted a performance with them. Sadly, they are having scheduling issues already! 'cuz that same week: Wheein was in a Christmas Concert (China) and Mamamo+ (Moonbyul+Solar) with their Two Rabbits Code concert also somewhere in China.
Thanks for the explanation, and i hope they continue as a group
It will be an extremely sad day if Mamamoo disbands for good but then all good things must come to an end. That being said no matter what happens they'll always be our mighty Queens of the Moomoo nation and whatever endeavour they participate in whether solo or as a group, we'll always support them.
MAMAMOO IS THAT TYPE OF GROUP WHO WILL NEVER DISAPPEAR IN MUSIC INDUSTRY EVEN IF HOW MANY NEW GROUP WILL DEBUTED.AND THATS A FACT❤❤❤
Solar recently said in an interview that they want to continue as a group but that it will be hard because everyone also has their solo career now and it‘s challenging to find time with their schedules. I think we will only get a Mamamoo song every few years or so… 😢 I‘m wondering what Wheein is going to do after the incident with Ravi. Wheein said last year that she is working on a new album but we haven’t heard about it in a while. I’m not sure if Ravi will continue with his label and what that means for Wheein.
@lovelylykarobles7964
10 ай бұрын
What happened to ravi and wheein?
@PhineaBlue
10 ай бұрын
@@lovelylykarobles7964 Ravi has evaded military service with false health records that stated that he had epilepsy. Instead he served as a social worker. He was sentenced to 2 years probation and probably will have to re-enlist. He said that he did it because he was the only profitable artist in his company at that time and he feared for the future of his company. One of his artists, Nafla, also evaded military service and was sentenced to a year in prison. I guess this will affect his company and also Wheein and her upcoming album 😕
@juni4285
10 ай бұрын
wheein will make her solo comeback on october she said on the radio recently
@jjescorpiso21
9 ай бұрын
if thats the case, i hope the company can still function without ravi for a yr or two
@rizkamaulita7182
9 ай бұрын
But good news, wheein announced her comeback would be on October 12, her trailer is out few days ago! Make sure to give her project follow up and support
mamamoo queens🔥👑💅🏻
I am glad tgankyou.. moomoo since their debute🎉
Thank you for explaining the situation bc so many people are confused and think mamamoo have disbanded, which isn't true
@wj6782
8 ай бұрын
-Wheein's extended her contract with RBW for Group activites until the END of 2023. NO "Official" word on if Wheein will extend her deal for Mamamoo again. -While doing her Solo work exclusively with The L1ve label. -Hwasa has just signed with PNation(don't know why, even her Friend Jessi has left it). -There has been NO "Official" word what type of deal, if any, Hwasa has made with RBW. To continue with Mamamoo. RBW holds most of the rights when it comes to Mamamoo. So the Fact that the members what to Continue Group activities, means they have to make an agreement with them. Now you have THREE companies that have to agree to terms, and schedualing. Along with the 4 members individual scheduals. It's going to be a logistical nightmare. I HAVE MY FINGERS CROSSED.
I think the timing of a subunit debut was what confused me the most. I was wondering if this was just their way of "not saying goodbye yet" but that we wouldnt really see wheein and hwasa have the time to promote with solar and moonbyul anymore
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
It was confusing at first yes but they mentioned that they wanted to make subunits many times and since Solar and Moonbyul are still in RBW it's easier, it makes sense for them
Thanks for explaining I can’t hear these comments anymore with people saying they disbanded even though they have no idea whats going on
If got7 can do it, then any other group can do it too. Wish them the best.
@clarajacquin2425
9 ай бұрын
GOT7 and Mamamoo are my favourite groups! I hope all Mamamoo's members will be able to sign a contract with another agency than RBW for group activities. And that we can get a real world tour, not just Asia and USA.
Ngl wheein's 'make me happy' is realy good.. probably my fave solo by whein.. t My fave solo from each member would be : Solar : spit it out Hwasa : twit Wheein : make me happy Moonbyul : lunatic
Love that mamamoo are not in the same company but they stay together anyway 😂 only mamamoo can do that ❤
Mamamoo💞💞
These individual arrangements/contracts that the members of Mamamoo have pioneered are going to be the standard for many KPOP stars going forward. I wouldn't be surprised if the members of Blackpink end up making the same kind of deals,. Individual freedom, yet group commitments with YG as well.
I really love them😊
This just shows how Mamamoo is not just a girl group but their bond together is what keeps them together that even when they are with different labels now they will make time to be together as Mamamoo! This is what they meant about “nobody Loves Mamamoo than Mamamoo itself!” They just respect their individual goals to pursue their solo careers but will always be Mamamoo.
mamamoo never dies
Thank you ❤, i was really confused
😭thanks soo much for making this short! I do wonder how are they doing since I knew that Wheein is in another label and after hwasa release her new song, the tags on her shorts are #pnation which is not rbw, and before that mamamoo+ (solar-moonbyul) debuted. I don't really follow their activities/interviews so I was quite concern, but watching this and reading some comments make me feel relieve 💚
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
I'm glad this short helped! Don't worry the girls are still strong as a group 🥺
Soo cool that they can release group music even tho two memvers are not signed with RBW Nice that they allpw that
Thank you for the explanation
Mamamoo will... continue ❤
I love these women and I will cry like a teenager from the 90's if they ever disband XD
I can't wait to see them in concert again this time I'm getting vvip tickets 😁❤️
Actually: -Wheein's extended her contract with RBW for Group activites until the END of 2023. NO "Official" word on if Wheein will extend her deal for Mamamoo agian. -While doing her Solo work exclusively with The L1ve label. -Hwasa has just signed with PNation(don't know why even her Friend Jessi, has left it). -There has been NO "Official" word what type of deal, if any, Hwasa has made with RBW. To continue with Mamamoo.
@blueen2a
10 ай бұрын
Exactly I don't see that we will get a new album in the next few Years with all members maybe medly stage for 10 minutes
@bshaker7716
10 ай бұрын
If i remember correctly, everyones contract for group activities ends this year (2023).
@ravenisabellajane7591
10 ай бұрын
Mamamoo has stated clearly throughout their tour, lives and social media that Mamamoo would still continue on. Their contract periods are severely different from an interview Solar and Moonbyul attended. At first it was Solar and Moonbyul that signed the contract, and then it was Hwasa and Wheein. They all thought the contracts would the same but turns out Solar and Moonbyul's was a year longer than the others. Considering this is an individual contract I do not think they discussed it with each other whether or not they wanted to stay in RBW because in the end, they would still be together- Same company or not.
@wj6782
8 ай бұрын
@@ravenisabellajane7591 Being as close as they are, you don't think they discussed staying/leaving RBW. The DEFINATELY talked about it, "maybe" not all the details, but they talked about it. Don't forget that RBW holds most of the rights when it comes to Mamamoo. So the Fact that the members what to Continue Group activities, means they have to make an agreement with them. Now you have THREE companies that have to agree to terms, and schedualing. Along with the 4 members individual scheduals. It's going to be a logistical nightmare.
@wj6782
6 ай бұрын
@@bshaker7716 No I think the OP is correct and Solar and Moonbyul is for at least another year. Not sure beyond that though, don't have the specifics.
Good to know.😊
The group business is under rbw individual business ( solos) are separate contracts with different companies
i hope Mamamoo redoes a World Tour with more destinations as ot4 in the future. I hope i can see them at least once in my life 🥹 and a better organized tour, also! The one they had this year was so rushed
They're real sisters + besties as they said in their documentary mic on
Glad to know that they didn't disband
Whee in is coming back on 12 oct with full length album(11 tracks) IN THE MOOD Please support her ❤
La vida es un riesgo. Desde que RBW dijo, "gira mundial" surgió un compromiso, porque no es mundial hasta que no visitan el resto de continentes, o tan solo la empresa no sabe de geografía. 😂 No me preocupo por ninguna de ellas, seamos honestos, levantaron una empresa desde muy abajo, aunque son humanas tienen preocupaciones he insertidumbre. PSY claramente vio a Hwasa como el miembro mas destacado en su línea de estilo, esta nueva cancion suena a un cliché de lo que ya sabemos Hwasa es capaz, esperemos no la desperdicien. Solar y Moonbyul son las mas inseguras y apegadas a RBW, pero seguramente tienen sus planes fuera. Wheein es tan talentosa, confió en una marca pero no es tarde para rectificar. Como dice el dicho "el que es perico donde sea es verde" estas cuatro son una familia y ya es tiempo de que RBW demuestre que puede llevar a otro grupo a la fama sin depender de ellas.
I think they're the 2nd group that did this. The 1st one is SNSD where 3 members aren't in the same agency/company anymore, but they still sometimes promote and perform together. Mamamoo on the other hand has more engagements as a group, regardless of the agency/company.
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
I think more than 2 groups did this, GOT7 for example did too!!
Unlike other groups with the same situation, MAMAMOO is very active. Here are some of their OT4 activities while being in different companies: - I SAY MAMAMOO: THE BEST (compilation album with 2 new tracks and 21 re-recorded and rearranged tracks) - MIC ON 12th Mini Album (with various promotions in SK) - I SAY MAMAMOO: THE BEST Japan Edition - MY CON - MAMAMOO World Tour (23 shows in 18 stops) - MY CON Encore Concert (3 shows) - Netflix's Take 1 - MAMAMOO 'WAW' Online Concert - Kpop Flex in Germany - Music Bank in Paris - KCON:TACT HI 5 - MBC Gayo Daejejeon year-end shows (2021 and 2022) - Multiple local festival appearances (latest is the Scout Jamboree concert last Aug 2023, after Hwasa left RBW in July) - Where Are We Now docu (with appearances at the movie theater premiere) and MY CON The Movie - MAMAMOOMOOMAS Naver Now Christmas Show - Various contents/performances for group anniversaries, season's greetings, tv shows, etc.
Same as Teen Top. Afaik, Niel and Changjo are not under TOP Media anymore. But they still remain as a group, Teen Top
So you can still stay in the same group even tho the members are im different companies? Isn't tjat kinda difficult?
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
You can! It is but many groups manage to do it
@ccaz7403
10 ай бұрын
GOT7 had a comeback, and the members are in several companies.
Like snsd. They all have their solo careers, some in different companys but still part of the group. Just wish mamamoo makes a comeback as a group at least every year. 😢
Mamamoo will continue
Mamamoo are much more active with one member in other company than a group with all members in the same company. Let’s be real. Kpoppies just keep on discredit mamamoo in all their capabilities.
Not a moomoo but fond of these talented girls a lot Can please anyone enlighten me? I was reading somewhere that Wheein contract actually double contract, so she still under RBW for group but on other agency for solo only 🤔 (I assumed her fee cut for mic on album goes to RBW) . Which different with most situations, for examples SNSD, where 3 totally left SM just still in the group, so when group comeback happened, those 3 still taken care by their own each agency (their fee cut for group activity goes into their own agency, not SM) . Is this my misunderstanding or not? 🤔
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
You are 100% right!! If I'm not wrong Wheein's "special contract" with rbw ends this year but as it looks she'll renew for sure!
OMG watching this video made me happy bc I really wanted to be a MooMoo but I didn‘t know if they disbanded or if they will disband soon so I didn‘t become a MooMoo As a new MooMoo can someone tell me some things about the members
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
It's never too late to be a Moomoo!! Welcome to the fandom 🥰 There's a lot to know about Mamamoo and it's gonna take you some time but for the beginning my advice would be to keep up with them on their social medias and watch introduction and funny videos!! Oh and of course, listen to all their albums and watch some of their most iconic performances 😌
@Multiverse_skz_ouat
9 ай бұрын
@@keepsearching4110 Thank you!💗
12nd album 😳
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
Yeah there's a typo, it should be 12th
MAMAMOO FOREVEERRRRRR
According to the Financial experts, Mamamoo brought into RBW 41% of their income in 2023.
Just like Got7 they formed a bond stronger than their contracts
I WANT GIDLE TO DO THE SAMEEE
But wheein will only be part of mamamoo until the end of this year right? Then after december of 2023 what happens?
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
She can always renew again! And it's very very likely she will
thank u for this video🤍 non-moos like to keep telling people that mamamoo is over despite them having confirmed they’d continue a million times🤦🏻♀️
AND NOWWWWW Wheein and Hwasa are releasing their own Season's Greetings and SOMEHOW made their companies make a package deal if you buy both of their SG's together Fun fact: Pnation DOESN'T even release season's greetings, Hwasa is their first (and so far ONLY) artist to do so. This only adds on to the fact that these girls will stop at nothing to make sure that MAMAMOO will be FOREVER
@keepsearching4110
8 ай бұрын
I was SHOOK when I saw the SG announcements!!! They really make everything happen I'm so happy for all the content but my wallet sure isn't 😭 so far we got 3 different SG, now imagine if Moonsun also got their own solo ones + Mamamoo+ and also Mamamoo as 4 😭
Ik they didn't disband but now that Solar and Moonbyul are the only ones under rbw now MAMAMOO+ gain more comebacks instead of the full group
how did all of their contracts expire at different times? didnt they sign the 7 year one together?
@mushyandco1808
9 ай бұрын
Their first 7-year contract expired at the same time in June 2021. Their renewal contracts had different terms tho. Wheein signed a special agreement. Hwasa renewed until June 2023 (this has already expired and she didn't re-sign). Solar and Moonbyul renewed until June 2024. They probably had different negotations with RBW to make them renew lol
Wheein said that she will be involved with mamamoo only until the end of 2023
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
Her contract ends in 2023 yes but she can still renew and they've said multiple times, even on tour, that "Mamamoo will continue", these were their words, and they keep asking Moos to trust them so I'm not worried at all 😌
Is wheein continue? Because previously said only do the group activities for the 1 year after joining new company(?) i forgot where i read the article
@keepsearching4110
Ай бұрын
Wheein is still in the group yes! Mamamoo are and will always be 4!
Moonsun as a duo under Mamamoo was always a thing because they clearly are married
They're not in weverse app..😢😢
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not :( only Wheein!
So basically yes mamamoo and yes for solo paths
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
Yup, just like before, nothing changed besides them going to different companies
@zuri004
9 ай бұрын
@@keepsearching4110 idk what people didn't get about that tbh hahah
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
@@zuri004 same... But since it's Mamamoo people like to spread misinformation on purpose
@zuri004
9 ай бұрын
@@keepsearching4110 yeah, how can people not like mamamoo? They're one of the most tallented gg out there
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
@@zuri004 for real!! I don't get it either
Do you guys think Solar and Moonbyul would renew their contract and stay with RBW or find another company after their contract expires? 😮
@keepsearching4110
9 ай бұрын
Their contracts expire next year and I think they are the members that are "most fond" of rbw, I personally hope they won't, I hope all the members are waiting for Moonsun's contracts to expire so they can claim their name, discography etc etc and either move to a new company or find a new one since Solar bought a building some time ago and no one knows what it was for...
Pretty sure in Solar and Moonbyul's contracts were over this year they would have left too lol
No one loves Mamamoo, more than Mamamoo ❤
12nd?....... it's 12th
@keepsearching4110
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I only noticed that after I posted the video 😅
So confused 🤣
@keepsearching4110
8 ай бұрын
All you have to know is that Moonbyul and Solar are still in RBW, Hwasa is now in Pnation and Wheein in The L1ve. They're all in different companies but Mamamoo is still a group, they didn't disband
@Unidentified_Kpopfan
8 ай бұрын
Ok Thanks